Edwards line help
Edith Gomez
descendent from Meridth AP TUDOR>Owen TUDOR>Edmund TUDOR> Henry VII of
England>Henry VIII of England by Agnes ?? (have seen that her surname might
be BLEWITT). One place says Henry VIII and Agnes were married and in
another place it says she was his mistress. This totally disturbes me as I
do not see any documentation concerning this matter. Is there anyone that
can help me. Please make correction where necessary. Thank you.
Here is what I have on this line:
1. Meridth AP TUDOR marries Margaret FERCH DAVID VYCHAN, daughter of David
Vychan AP DAVID LLOYD.
Child of Meridth AP TUDOR and Margaret FERCH DAVID VYCHAN is:
+2 i. Owen TUDOR died 14 Feb 1460
2. Owen TUDOR died 14 Feb 1460. He married Katherine de VALOIS, daughter of
Charles VI of France and Isabelle of Bavaria. She died 3 Jan 1436 in
Bermondsey Abbey/
Child of Owen Tudor and Katherine de Valois is:
+3 i. Edmund TUDOR was born abt 1430 in Hadham, Hertfordshire, England, and
died 3 Nov 1456 in Carmorthen, Dyfedshire, Wales.
3. Edmund TUDOR was born abt 1430 in Hadham, Hertfordshire, England and died
3 Nov 1456 in Carmorthen, Dyfedshire, Wales. He married Margaret BEAUFORT
abt 1455, daughter of John Beaufort, Knight of the Garter and Margaret
Beauchamp. She was born 31 May 1443 in Bletsoe, Bedfordshire, England and
died 29 Jun 1509 in Westminister, Middlesex, England.
Child of Edmund and Margaret is:
+4 i. Henry VII of England was born 28 Jan 1457 and died 21 Apr 1509 in
Richmond, Surrey, England.
4. Henry VII of England was born 28 Jan 1457 and died 21 Apr 1509 in
Richmond, Surrey, England. He married Elizabeth of York 18 Jan 1486 in
Westminister, Middlesex, England, daughter of Edward IV of England and
Elizabeth Wydeville. She died 11 Feb 1503 in the Tower of London,
London, Middlesex, England.
Children of Henry VII and Elizzbeth are:
5 i. Arthur of England was born 20 Sep 1486 in Winchester Castle,
Winchester, Hampshire, England, and died 2 Apr 1502 in
Ludlow Castle, Ludlow, Herfordshire, England.
6. ii. Margaret of England was born 20 Nov 1489 in Westminister,
Middlesex, England.
+7. iii. Henry VIII of England was born 28 Jun 1491 in Greenwich, Middlesex,
England and died 28 Jan 1547 in Whitehall, Middlesex,
England.
8. iv. Elizabeth of England was born 2 Jul 1492 and died 14 Sep 1493 in
Eltham, Kent, England.
9. v. Mary of England was born 18 Mar 1496 in Richmond, Surrey, England
and died 25 Jun 1553 in 563, p. 361.
10. vi. Edmund of England was born 20 Feb 1499 in Greenwich, Middlesex,
England and died 19 Jun 1500 in Hatfield, Hertfordshire,
England.
7. Henry VIII of England was born 28 Jun 1491 in Greenwih, Middlesex,
England and died 28 Jan 1547 in Whitehall, Middlesex, England. He married
Agnes ??. She died 1575 in Somerset, England. He married Katherine of
Aragon 3 Jan 1509 in Greenwich, Middlesex, England. She was born 15 Dec
1485 in Alcala de Henares, Spain and died 7 Jan 1536 in Kimbolton Castle,
Kimbolton, Herfordshire, England. He married Mary Boleyn (not that I have
heard). He married Anne Boleyn 25 Jan 1533 in Whitehall, Middlesex,
England. she was born 1507 in Blickling Hall, Norfolk, England and died 19
May 1536 in Tower of London, London, Middlesex, England. He married Jane
Seymour 20 May 1536 in Wolf Hall, Savernake, Wiltshire, England. She was
born abt 1509 and died 14 Oct 1537 in Hampton Court Palace, London,
Middlesex, England. He married Anne of Cleves 6 Jan 1540 in Greewich,
Middlesex, England. She was born 22 Sep 1516 in Dusseldorf, Germany and
died 17 Jul 1557 in Chelsea, Suffolk, Massachusetts. He married Katherine
Howard 28 Jul 1540 in Hampton Court Palace, London, Middlesex, England. She
was born 1525 in Lambeth, Middlesex, England and died 13 Feb 1542 in Tower
Green, London, Middlesex, England. He married Katherine Parr 12 Jul 1543 in
Hampton Court Palace, London, Middlesex, England. She was born abt 1512 in
Kendal Castle, Cumbria, England and died 5 Sep 1548 in Sudeley Castle,
Sudeley, North Yorkshire, England.
Child of Henry VIII and Agnes ???:
+ 11. i. Richard EDWARDES was born 3 ??? 1525 in North Petherton,
Somerset, England, and died 31 Oct 1566 in London, Middlesex, England.
11. Richard Edwardes was born 3 ??? 1525 in North Petherton, Somerset,
England and died 31 Oct 1566 in London, Middlesex, England. He married (1)
Helene GRIFFITH abt 1563. He married (2) Margaret BABB 22 Apr 1560 in North
Petherton, Somerset, England. She died abt 1562.
Children of Richard and Helene (Griffith) Edwardes:
12. i. Marie Edwardes was born about 1562 in North Petherton,
Somerset, England.
13 ii. Gwen Edwardes was born about 1563 in North Petherton,
Somerset, England.
14. iii. Elizabeth Edwardes was born abt. 1564 in North Petherton,
Somerset, England.
15. iv. John Edwardes died 1604 in St. Nicholas Acon, Canterbury,
Kent, England.
+ 16. v. Richard Edwardes, Jr. was born 22 Nov 1566 in North
Petherton, Somerset, England.
Children of Richard Edwardes and Margaret Babb:
17. i. William Edwardes.
18. ii Marie Edwardes was born abt 1562 in North Petherton,
Somerset, England.
Ian Cairns
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> I have been seeing a lot about the fact that my Edwards/Edwardes line is
> descendent from Meridth AP TUDOR>Owen TUDOR>Edmund TUDOR> Henry VII of
> England>Henry VIII of England by Agnes ?? (have seen that her surname
might
> be BLEWITT). One place says Henry VIII and Agnes were married and in
> another place it says she was his mistress. This totally disturbes me as
I
> do not see any documentation concerning this matter. Is there anyone that
> can help me. Please make correction where necessary. Thank you.
>
> Here is what I have on this line:
<snip>
> He (Henry VIII) married Anne of Cleves 6 Jan 1540 in Greewich,
> Middlesex, England. She was born 22 Sep 1516 in Dusseldorf, Germany and
> died 17 Jul 1557 in Chelsea, Suffolk, Massachusetts.
Presumably Chelsea Old Palace, Chelsea, Suffolk, Massachusetts?
Amazing how they shipped the body all the way back to Westminster Abbey ..
unless you know of an alternative Westminster Abbey in the USA??
<snip>
> + 11. i. Richard EDWARDES was born 3 ??? 1525 in North Petherton,
> Somerset, England, and died 31 Oct 1566 in London, Middlesex, England.
<snip>
I was a little confused by this point. How did Richard EDWARDES fit into the
earlier numbering system? Are you alleging he was a brother to Henry VIII?
Ian
Edith Gomez
"Ian Cairns" <ne...@cairnsfamily.org> wrote in message
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> "Edith Gomez" <edit...@home.com> wrote in message
> news:9i608.92598$va.43...@news2.rdc1.mi.home.com...
> > I have been seeing a lot about the fact that my Edwards/Edwardes line is
> > descendent from Meridth AP TUDOR>Owen TUDOR>Edmund TUDOR> Henry VII of
> > England>Henry VIII of England by Agnes ?? (have seen that her surname
> might
> > be BLEWITT). One place says Henry VIII and Agnes were married and in
> > another place it says she was his mistress. This totally disturbes me
as
> I
> > do not see any documentation concerning this matter. Is there anyone
that
> > can help me. Please make correction where necessary. Thank you.
> >
> > Here is what I have on this line:
>
> <snip>
>
> > He (Henry VIII) married Anne of Cleves 6 Jan 1540 in Greewich,
> > Middlesex, England. She was born 22 Sep 1516 in Dusseldorf, Germany and
> > died 17 Jul 1557 in Chelsea, Suffolk, Massachusetts.
>
> Presumably Chelsea Old Palace, Chelsea, Suffolk, Massachusetts?
> Amazing how they shipped the body all the way back to Westminster Abbey ..
> unless you know of an alternative Westminster Abbey in the USA??
>
> <snip>
The Massachusetts threw me very much. I don't know where people get their
information to screw it up so bad.
>
> > + 11. i. Richard EDWARDES was born 3 ??? 1525 in North Petherton,
> > Somerset, England, and died 31 Oct 1566 in London, Middlesex, England.
>
> <snip>
>
> I was a little confused by this point. How did Richard EDWARDES fit into
the
> earlier numbering system? Are you alleging he was a brother to Henry VIII?
>
> Ian
>
He was suppose to be the son via Agnes a mistress and she married an
Edwardes to give her illegitimate son a name.
This information was submitted to ancestry.com by jr...@lehigh.edu. I will
not submit his real name here however. I feel though he should be corrected
some how.
Edith
_Hines_TD@aya.yale.edu D. Spencer Hines
| their information to screw it up so bad.
Because they are ignorant ---- and made more so by their American
education.
Diminishing Returns.
Someone at Lehigh University, who is a dunce, presumably gave you this:
"Much have I travelled in the realms of gold, And many goodly states and
kingdoms seen; Round many western islands have I been, Which bards in
fealty to Apollo hold." -- John Keats [1795-1821] -- Poems [1817] -- "On
First Looking Into Chapman's Homer"
"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do
nothing." -- Attributed to Edmund Burke [1729-1797]
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"Edith Gomez" <edit...@home.com> wrote in message
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Edith Gomez
1. John Edwards b. 1420 in Denbigh, Wales
.. +Anne Puttenham
.....2. John Edwards b. 1450 Denbigh, Wales
.......+Unknown
.........3. Robert Edwards b. 1475 in London, England
...........+Unknown
............*4. William Thomas Edwards b. 1500 North Petherton,
Somersetshire, England, d. 1547 in London, England
.............4. John Edwards b. 2 Jan 1503/04 in Somersetshire, England, d.
11 Oct 1575 in Horningsham, Wiltshire, England.
* 4. William Thomas Edwards b. 1500 North Petherton, Somersetshire, England,
d. 1547 in London, England.
.....+Agnes/Ann Blewitt b. 1509 Lottisham, Ditcheat, Somerset, England, d.
1575 in Somerset, England.
.......*6. Richard Edwards b. Mar 1525 North Petherton, Somersetshire,
England, d. 31 Oct 1566 in England
.........7. William Edwards b. 1522 in London, England, d. 29 Jun 1563 in
London, England.
.........8. Henry Edwards b. 1523 London, England
.........9. Christopher Edwards b. abt 1524 in London, England.
Does this line make more sense? I would like an honest answer, no beating
around the bush. I need help here so that I can keep my records straight.
*My line. Richard Edwards married Helene Griffith, their son Richard B.
Edwards married Ellenor Thomas, their son Joshua Edwards married Margaret
Babbs and their son William Edwards married Elizabeth Tuttle and their son
William Edwards married Jane Seymour and they had six sons and three
daughters all the sons except for Robert Edwards died in 1690 at the Battle
at Boyne River in Ireland.
Robert Edwards was b.1677 in Wales, d. 1704 in Wales, m. 1702 in Wales to
Elizabeth Francis, b. 1673 in <Wales>, d. 1705 in Wales. I believe their
two sons, Robert and Francis were raised by either their grandparents or an
Aunt. Robert and Francis married and had children and Elizabeth Edwards,
dau. of Francis Edwards, married Henry, the son of Robert Edwards (boy what
a mixed up family I have). Francis Edwards married Ann Leach an ancestor
also of my GGGrandmother Edith Leach-Griffith who was born on board the ship
to Canada in 1819, have been told it is the Maria, from either Wales or
Ireland.
Well enough of my rambling. I sure hope some of you history buffs can help
me.
Edith.
Arthur Murata
son, legitimate or otherwise, of Henry VIII (or any
"Henry") be essentially named "son of Edward"? Usually such
sons (not always of course) indicated their bastard royal
status with a "surname" like FitzRoy (son of the king) or
some such, even "Tudor", I suppose. So that is the gap for
me - Henry VIII to your 1st Edwards.
I would love for the line to be true and, furthermore, to
be able to connect it with my own Richard Edwards (I have
two of them along with a Frank William Edwards), but alas -
the earliest one was only a traveling salesman "in Texas or
Utah". Good luck, Bronwen Edwards
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Arthur Murata
Henry VIII, his mother would not be casting about for a
"name" for him! If anything her new husband would be trying
to link himself to the boy's illegitimate paternity. And,
after all, since Henry VIII was unable to raise to
adulthood any male heirs, I am rather sure that an
illegitimate one would have had a good chance of being
welcomed into his home. Anyway, that's my opinion - the
earlier part of this statement I think is more verifiable.
Best, Bronwen Edwards (nth cousin to Henry VIII)
> He was suppose to be the son via Agnes a mistress and she
> married an
> Edwardes to give her illegitimate son a name.
>
>
> This information was submitted to ancestry.com by
> jr...@lehigh.edu. I will
> not submit his real name here however. I feel though he
> should be corrected
> some how.
>
> Edith
>
>
Bob McClure
This information, a legend in Somersetshire (I understand), came from
St James Palace along with a miniature of the Elizabethan poet
(reproduced at bobmcclure.com). The word I get is the cleric
overseeing the Chapel Royal had a knowledge of the painting and lent
it to a direct ancestor who in turn reproduced it for me.
Bob McClure