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Adrian Channing

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Nov 18, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/18/98
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Following Alan Watkins's posting of the 1619 Visitation of
Kent [vis] and Ian Walace's potsting of Berry's Pedigrees
of Kent families [BKP] combined with notes I have from
Hasted's History of Kent [HHK] and from Faris "Plantagenet
Ancestry of 17c Colonists" [FPA], I have put together a
pedigree of the Scott family including those of Scott's
Hall, Smeeth, Kent, but there are some problems which need
sorting out.

[HHK] WILLIAM de BALIOL le Scot He reportedly
changed his name to Scot following the contest between king
Ed I and WILLIAM's br JOHN said to be ancestor of the
Scott's of Scotts Hall

[vis] John father of William which
William is perhaps the same as:

[HHK] WILLIAM SCOTT (-1350
bur Braborne Ch); Of Bradborne; Kt marshal of Eng

[vis]
father of MICHAEL > WILLIAM > JOHN > WILLIAM

Of this last HHK and [BPK] give;

WILLIAM SCOTT (-1433); Sir; In Temp
Hy VI in the right of his wife held Bradborne court lodge,
Kent; By 1428 moved to Scotts hall (formally Hall manor),
Smeeth parish, Kent); m1 Joan sis&ch (with Magraet m
WILLIAM PARKER of Warehorne) of Sir RICHARD ORLESTON
(-1419/20) who brought him Orleston manor, Kent, Capel and
Ham manors both Warehorne parish, Kent; m2 Isabel [vis
named Elizabeth and only m] d of VINCENT HERBERT alias
FINCH (she m2 Sir GERVAS CLIFTON)

[vis] gives his issue as

Sir John; Michael; Thomas; Margaret and Joan

From HHK and [BPK] give for this Sir John;

JOHN (-1485 [BPK bur 17 Oct]); Sir; Of Scotts Hall; Inht
Orleston manor; PC [BPK and Comptroller of the Household]
to Ed IV; Soon after 1461/2 the k gr him a life interest in
Chilham manor, Kent which gift was confirmed 1476/7;
Marshall of Calais; [BPK m Agnes d&h of WILLIAM BEAUFITZ of
the Grange, Gillingham]

[vis] gives his issue as

Sir William m Sibilla d of Sir Thomas Lewknor; Margaret and
Isabel

Of the first HHK gives:

WILLIAM SCOTT; Sir; In Temp Hy VII & VIII Ld warden of
cinque ports and lt. [BPK Constable] of Dover castle;
Sheriff of Kent 1490/1, 1501/2 & 1516/7; Rebuilt Scotts
Hall; m Sybilla d of Sir THOMAS [FPA Sir JOHN] LEWKNOR [FPA
of Goring and West Dean, Sussex] [There is no Lewknor/Scott
marriage in the Lewknor tree in Sussex Records series]

BPK gives his brother as Thomas Scott alias Rotherhan, who
was archbishop of York [in 1480-1500]. Infopedia quoting
from the concise Oxford DNB calls him Thomas Rotherham,
otherwise known as Scott and gives his dates as 1423-1500,
which d.o.b. seems a little early for this generation of
Scotts.

CP Vol X p 668 (g) gives the dau Isabel Scott as the wife
of Sir Edward Poynings. Burkes extinct peerage names her
as Elizabeth Scott. Sir Edward Poynings dates are
1459-1521.

[vis] gives the issue of Sir William as

Edward m Alice d of Sir Thomas Fogg, sergeant porter [of
Calais]; Catherine; John of Scotts Hall m Ann d&h of
Reginald Pimpe of Nettlestead; Anne m Edward Broughton and
Elizabeth.

Of Sir John Scott:

JOHN SCOTT: Sir (FPA -<1534); [HHK Of Scotts Hall, Smeeth;
Held Aldington manor, Smeeth in right of his wife]; [FPA
sheriff of Kent; m 1528 Anne or Amy (<1485-1530x40) d&h of
REGINALD PIMPE of Pympe's Court, Nettlested by Elizabeth,
to whom she was h, said to be d&h of Sir JOHN PASHLEY of
Smeeth, and g-d of Sir WILLIAM PYMPE] [HHK they were
ancestors of the FRANCIS TALBOT-SCOTT's]

FPA my be wrong in the date of this m (1528). There was a
message to this ng giving the dob of his son as 1513. FPA
also gives the date of m of Sir John Scott's grand son
Charles as 1537.

and of Edward:

EDWARD; [HHK of the Moat, Sussex; In right of his wife held
a moiety of Ham manor, Kent; m Alice d&ch of Sir THOMAS
FOGGE; sergeant porter of Calais by Eleanor Browne; She m2
Sir ROBERT OXENBRIDGE of Winchelsea, Sussex who bought the
other moiety of Ham from Sir THOMAS MOYLE] [vis Edward
by Alice left William who m a d of Ld Windsor]

Alice Fogge's sister and co-heir Anne also m a Scott who is
presumably connected to this family viz;

HHK
WILLIAM SCOTT (-sp) (br of REGINALD) who held Great
Mongeham manor with Fogges court, and a moiety of
Heppington manor, Nackington parish, Kent in right of his
wife; The moietys of Heppington were sold in 1558 and 1561
to THOMAS HALES of Thanington; m Anne d&ch of Sir THOMAS
FOGGE, sergeant porter of Calais by Eleanor Browne; She m2
HENRY ISHAM

Perhaps this brother is the Sir Reginald below, but that
would give the two Fogge sisters m into different
Scott generations.

[vis] gives the issue of John Scott and Anne Pympe as:

a) Sir Reginald m1 Maria Turk m2 Emeline Kempe;
b) Mildred m John Diggs [HHK of Barnham and Yorkes Court s
of James Diggs (-1535) by his m1. She m2 Richard Keys and
left Thomas, Bennett and Sibell]
c) Isabell
d) Maria
e) Richard m Maria d of George Whetenhall of East Peckam
f) Sibill m Richard Hynde [of Essex]

[FPA] states that in total there were 4 sons and 7
daughters.

Of Reginald (whose marriages in vis are the wrong way
round)

REGINALD/RAYNOLD SCOTT; [(eml 1513-); FPA (-16 Dec 1554 PCC
will 4 Sep 1554 pr 13 Feb 1554/5); Sir; s&h]; [HHK Capt of
Calais castle; [BPK In 1542 Sheriff of Kent; m1 Emeline d
of Sir WILLIAM KEMPE of Ollantigh, Kent by Eleanor d of Sir
ROBERT BROWNE of the Betchworth Browne family; m2 Mary [FPA
->1554] d of BRIAN TUKE] [FPA d of BRIAN TURK, knt of Layer
Marney, Essex; Sec. to Cardinal WOLSEY; by Grissell d of
NICHOLS BOUGHTON of Woolwich, Kent]

By Emeline Kemp, Reginald left:

THOMAS [HHK (-1594 bur Braborne Ch [FPA Will PCC]) Sir;
[FPA MP; Comptroller of Household of q El]; In 1588 app
cmmndr in chief of the Kentish forces to oppose the
Spanish, for which he raised 4,000 armed men and sent to
Dover; In his 38 years at Scotts Hall he was famous for his
entertaining; He Inh Orleston manor; His wife [m1?] managed
and preserved Romny Marsh; In 1575/6 Sheriff of Kent; [FPA
m1 Elizabeth (-17 Nov 1583 bur Bradbourne) ed of Sir JOHN
BAKER of Sissinghurst Castle, Kent (Chancellor of Exc to Hy
VIII; Speaker of the H of C; Attorney-General to q Mary) by
Elizabeth d&h of THOMAS DINLEY; m2 1583 Elizabeth (-29 Jun
1595 sp) ed of RALPH HEYMAN of Somerfield, Kent by Anne d
of WILLIAM NANTON of Suffolk; m3 Dorothy (-sp) d of JOHN
BERE of Horsman's Place, Dartford, Kent and wdw of JOHN
HEYES of Essex, EDWARD SCOTT of Camberwell and GEORGE FYNCH
of Norton in Sheldwich, Kent]

FPA states there were also two daughters

Issue of Sir Thomas by Elizabeth Baker;

From HHK unless show otherwise (CAV = Noel Currer-Briggs's
"Engliah Adventurers and Virginian Settlers");

A) THOMAS; 1st s; of Scotts Hall dsp; [vis m Elizabeth d of
THOMAS HONYWOOD dsp]

B) JOHN SCOTT; Sir; 2nd s; Of Nettlested; dsp [vis m1
Elizabeth d of STAFFORD; m2 Catherine d of THOMAS SMYTH and
wdw of ROLAND HAYWARD of London; He dsp]

C) EDWARD SCOTT; KB; heir to his br THOMAS; Of Scotts Hall;
held Jacks/Jaques, Lid, Kent (which he sold to EDWARD
WILCOCK (-1577) jurat, of Lid) and Midley manor; m[1] 1601
Alice d&ch of WILLIAM STRINGER who brought him Agne-court,
Old Romney, Kent which he allianated to PETER GODFREY
(-1624) of Lid [vis m2 Catherine d of JOHN HONYWOOD of
Elmested; She was sole heir of her mother Jane d of PETER
HEYMAN and sole heir of her g-m Mary d of WILLIAM TYRREL of
Beeches, Essex] He left by m1 [vis Edward (c1613-) who left
issue Scotts of Scotts Hall and Elizabeth] [presumably the
Elizabeth d of Edward Scott of Scotts Hall who m John
Browne of Shingleton]

D) [vis RICHARD of Scotts Hall m Catherine d of Sir ROWLAND
HAYWARD; (She m2 Sir RICHARD SANDS) and left Maria and
Elizabeth (c1603-) who m THOMAS s&h of THOMAS DEREHAM of
Norfolk]

E) REGINALD

F) CHARLES

G) ROBERT; (yngst) of Mersham which property descended to
DAVID PAPILLON of Acrise [=Archers?] (l 1800) via a feamle
heir; m1 Priscila (-1648 MI St Mary's church, Smeeth)
d of THOMAS HONYWOOD [vis of Elmestead] (descendants
settled in Liminge, Kent and a GEORGE SCOTT of Scotts Hall
who in c1726 passed Orleston manor to Sir PHILIP BOTELER Bt
of Teston; In another ref in HHK this manor with Capel and
Ham came to Hon WILLIAM HENRY BOUVERIE) m2?. By m1 he left,
with Catherine;
ROBERT [vis c1613-]; m Mary (-1652 MI St Mary's church,
Smeeth) d of JOHN MOYLE of Buckwell (She had m1 RICHARD
GODFREY of Wye) left 22 issue and was the first who made
Mary Honywood of Charing a gg-gm and which lady lived to
see 366 descendants living)

H) Elizabeth m1 JOHN KNATCHBULL; m2 [CAV Sir] RICHARD s of
THOMAS "Customer" SMYTH [CAV of Westonhanger] dsp [CAV A br
of Sir Rd was Sir THOMAS SMYTH founder of the London
Virginia Company]

I) Emelina

J) Anna [BP Anne m1 RICHARD (c1554-20 Jan 1590 Ż THOMAS
dsp) s of RICHARD KNATCHBULL of Marsham Hatch; m2 Sir
THOMAS BROMLEY]

K) Mary m Sir ANTHONY [CAV s of SIR WARHAM St LEGER; The St
Ledger's were also connected with the foundation of
Virginia] [FPA their issue were WARHAM & ANTHONY]; m2
ALEXANDER COLEPEPER (-15 Apr 1636) of Wigsell

plus a further six unnamed issue


By Emeline Kemp, Reginald Scott left:

1) CHARLES [FPA -1616]; In temp q El bought Eggarton manor,
Godmersham parish, Kent from Sir HENRY de HILLS; [FPA m
1537 Jane d of Sir THOMAS WYATT of Allington Castle,
Kent [He of the 1553/4 WYATT rebelion] by Jane d of Sir
..LAYOUT 1
WILLIAM HAUTE/HAWTE of Bisshopsborne, Kent]
..LAYOUT 5

The date of m 1537, is probably wrong, FPA gives the date
of m of his g-p as 1528, which may also be wrong. The
correct date is probably a little before 1567, the d.o.b.
of their son, or perhaps this Charles is from a different
generation.

2) RAYNOLD/RAINALD author of "Discovery of Witchcraft"
(but not in vsi)

3) [vis BRIAN]

4) [vis GEORGE dsp]

5) [vis WILLIAM]

6) [vis Ursula m LAWRENT ROOKE]

7) [vis Maria] [FPA m1 RICHARD (-1588 bur E Sutton Ch); Of
East Sutton, Kent s of THOMAS ARGALL of London by Margaret
d of JOHN TALLAKARNE of Cornwall; left issue (5s+6d inc
[CAV JOHN of Colchester; Catherine m RALPH BATHURST of
Horton Kirby] and Elizabeth (-9 Aug 1638) m Sir EDWARD
FILMER g-p of Capt CHARLES BARHAM of Surry County,
Virginia) m2 LAURANCE WASHINGTON (-1605) of Maidstone, Kent

8)Elizabeth m WILLIAM HEYMAN

9)Margaret m THOMAS ROOKE]

CHARLES and Jane Wyatt left:

i. [HHK SON] [BPK THOMAS (1567-Will 1635); Of Egerton; m1
Elizabeth d&h of JOHN WEBB of Warhorne; m2 Mary d of JOHN
KNATHCHBULL of Merston] [HHK and of Canterbury; devised his
house in Godmersham with land to the poor of Godmersham as
nominated by his heir or failing that by his kinsman Sir
EDWARD SCOTT KB. [BPK by m1 he left Jane; HHK by m2 he left
Anne m PACEMORE; Mary m Bragg; Catherine; and Thomas of
Eggarton [vis c1604-] who left Thomas, dsp and Dorothy m Mr
DANIEL GOTHERSON who, in her right, took Eggarton manor]

ii. [vis WILLIAM dsp]

iii) [vis Maria m Sir ROBERT SHARPE]

iv) [vis Deborah] [FPA PCC Will 27 Mar 1651 pr 23 Jan
1651/2] m WILLIAM FLEETE [FPA member of Virginia Co]; Of
Chartham [FPA and of Greys Inn, London; s of WILLIAM FLEETE
by Katherine d of ROBERT HONYWOOD of Charing, Kent;
Deborah's Will, then of Westminster, mentions loan from Sir
ROBERT FILMER to pay for her son HENRY's voyage to
Virginia] Ż (GEORGE, WILLIAM, HENRY [FPA Capt, in 1621 to
Virginia, prisoner of Am Indians], BRIAN, EDWARD, REGINALD,
JOHN and Catherine [FPA 12i])


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