More on the Zouche Baron's
WJho...@aol.com
read that John, 8the Baron Zouche of Harryngworth had married as his second
wife Susan Welby dau of William Welby of Halsted, co Lincoln
They next state that John's grandson George Zouche married Margaret Welby dau
of William Welby, Esq of Molton, co Lincoln
They don't give a specific father to George, and they don't mention how, or
if, Margaret Welby is related to Susan Welby.
So I went fishing.
Leo's website is silent on any "George Zouche" but
www.tudorplace.com.ar
tells us that George, 10th Baron Zouche of Harryngworth who married Margeret
Welby, was the son of Richard the 9th Baron Zouche d 22 Jul 1552
George b abt 1526 Harryngworth d 19 Jun 1569
and had married Margaret about 1554
Their son was Edward 11th Baron Zouche of Harryngworth b 6 Jun 1556 d 18 Aug
1625 Bramshill House who married Eleanor Zouche dau of Sir John Zouche of
Codnor by his wife Eleanor Whalley
After his first wife Eleanor died (stinnet tells us she was buried 3 May
1611), this Edward Zouche married secondly Oct 1611 to Susan Harrington dau of Sir
James Harrington of Eton
Leo DOES have descendents from this family, as he is showing the very
curiously-named "Zouche Tate". Checking stirnet
http://www.stirnet.com/HTML/genie/british/xyz/zouche2.htm
we see that Zouche Tate was the son of Sir William Tate by his wife Elizabeth
Zouche, herself dau of Edward 11th Baron Zouche of Harryngworth by his wife
Eleanor Zouche.
Hopefully this addition to Leo's database can lead to some interesting new
ancestors for this American-immigrant family.
Will Johnson
Patricia Junkin
Born: 1556 More Information: Matric. Fell.-Com. from TRINITY , Easter,
1570. Doubtless s. and h. of George, 10th Baron Zouche, of Harringworth. B.
1556. M.A. (Hon.) 1571. Succeeded as 11th Baron Zouche, June 30, 1569. Adm.
at Gray's Inn, 1575. Lived abroad, 1587-93. Envoy extraordinary to James VI
of Scotland, 1593-4. Deputy-Governor of Guernsey, 1600-1. President of
Wales, 1602-15. Commissioner for the Treasury, 1612. Member of the Council
of Virginia, 1609, and of New England, 1620. Lord Warden of the Cinque
Ports, 1615-24. Patron of Ben Jonson and other poets. Married (1) Eleanor,
dau. of Sir John Zouche; (2) Sarah, dau. of Sir James Harington, of Exton.
Died Aug. 1625, s.p.m. (D.N.B.; Nichols, III. 1146.) ..
Cambridge University Alumni, 1261-1900
http://search.ancestry.com
This Edward lost a fortune in a venture to America.
According to a record I copied in England from "The Minutes of the Evidence
Given Before the Committee of Privileges to Whom the Petition of Sir Cecil
Bishop of Parham Park in Co. of Sussex" George is probably the son of
Richard sum to Parliam; rolls of 5E6
Pat
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>From: WJho...@aol.com
>To: GEN-MED...@rootsweb.com
>Subject: More on the Zouche Baron's
>Date: Tue, 29, 2006, 9:57 PM
WJho...@aol.com
writes:
<< 1570 EDWARD LA ZOUCHE or ZOWCHE College: TRINITY Entered: Easter, 1570
Born: 1556 More Information: .... Married (1) Eleanor, dau. of Sir John
Zouche; (2) Sarah, dau. of Sir James Harington, of Exton. Died Aug. 1625,
s.p.m. (D.N.B.; Nichols, III. 1146.) .. Cambridge University Alumni, 1261-1900
http://search.ancestry.com >>
Pat thank you for your helpful post.
Yes s.p.m. he apparently had two daughters
Elizabeth mar Sir William Tate of Delapre, his father I don't know, but his
paternal grandparents are called "Bartholomew Tate and Anne Saunders"
They are the parents of the Zouche Tate 1606-51 who married Katherine
Alington a 4th generation descendent of Richard Cecil
The other daughter Mary Zouche bap1582 bur1652 married Thomas Leighton on 4
Mar 1602/3 and later William Connard but appears to have possibly d.s.p. I'm
not sure
This information is present on both stirnet and tudorplace
stirnet.com/HTML/genie/british/xyz/zouche2.htm
It's likely that the Tate family has some interesting connections but I
haven't yet connected them myself.
Will Johnson
Robert O'Connor
<WJho...@aol.com> wrote in message news:c1d.2a28f1...@aol.com...snip
>
> Pat thank you for your helpful post.
> Yes s.p.m. he apparently had two daughters
> Elizabeth mar Sir William Tate of Delapre, his father I don't know, but
> his
> paternal grandparents are called "Bartholomew Tate and Anne Saunders"
>
> They are the parents of the Zouche Tate 1606-51 who married Katherine
> Alington a 4th generation descendent of Richard Cecil
The father of Sir William Tate was:
BARTHOLOMEW TATE, M.P., J.P., of Delapre, in the Parish of Hardingstone, Co.
Northants., & Whitley, near Coventry, Co. Warw., Born c. 1525. Escheator
of Co. Northants., 1560-62. M.P. for Coventry, 1572. Mentioned in the will
of his mother-in-law, Bridget Tanfield, 11 Jan. 1578/9. Described as
"Bartholomew Tate of Whitley in the city of Coventry, Esq" he purchased from
his 1st cousin "Sir Christopher Hatton, knight, Vice Treasurer & one of the
Queen's Privy Councillors" "the cemetery & church hall of Stivichall, Co.
Warw", 12 April 1579. J.P. for Co. Northants., 1582. Sheriff of Co.
Northants., 1585/6. He received a grant of the rectory & manor of Cotton,
in the Parish of Hardingstone by Queen Elizabeth I, 1590. M 1st before 20
Dec. 1550 his 2nd cousin once removed Eleanor or Elizabeth (Born c. 1533.
She was mentioned in the will of her great uncle Sir Richard Tate as
"Elizabeth Tate daughter of my nephew Richard Pauncefote Esquire", 20 Dec.
1550. Died c. 1556), d. of Richard Pauncefote, Esq., of Hasfield, Co.
Glouc. & his wife Dorothy, d. of John Ashfield, Esq., of Heythrope, Co.
Oxford (See PAUNCEFOTE). M 2nd c. 1557 Dorothy (Bur. 21 Oct. 1591 at
Hardingstone, Co. Northants.), d. of Francis Tanfield, Esq., of Gayton, Co.
Northants. & his wife Bridget, d. of Richard Cave, Esq., of Stanford, Co.
Northants. (See TANFIELD). Died 23 April 1601. Bur. 6 May 1601 at
Hardingstone, Co. Northants. I.P.M., 1601.
Sir William Tate was a child of his father's second marriage.
Sir William Tate's paternal grandfather was:
Sir BARTHOLOMEW TATE, Kt., of Laxton, Co. Northants. & Whitley, near
Coventry, Co. Warw., Mentioned in his father's will as "my younger son", 3
Jan. 1515/6. He became a member of the royal household, & held office in
Calais, probably as Marshall. Knighted by the Duke of Suffolk at
Valenciennes, France, 3 Dec. 1523. M Anne (Born c. 1505. As "my wife Dame
Anne Tate" she was appointed Executrix of her husband's will, 10 May 1532.
She M 2nd Sir Thomas Longueville, Kt., of Little Billing & Wolverton & 3rd
Andrew Wadham, Esq., of Merrifield, Somerset (uncle of the founder of Wadham
College). She was mentioned in her father's will "my daughter Longville",
20 June 1544. She was Bur. 16 Feb. 1564), d. of Laurence Saunders, Esq., of
Harington, Co. Northants. & his wife Alice, d. of Robert Brokesby, Esq., of
Shoby, Co. Leic. (See SAUNDERS). Will dated 10 May 1532 - in which he
states that "I desire my father-in-law Master Lawrence Saunders to assist my
said wife and sole executrix and his daughter". Died 1532. Will Proved at
P.C.C., 1532.
>
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> This information is present on both stirnet and tudorplace
> stirnet.com/HTML/genie/british/xyz/zouche2.htm
>
> It's likely that the Tate family has some interesting connections but I
> haven't yet connected them myself.
>
The Tate family does have some interesting connections. I would be happy to
send you a copy of my full Tate pedigree to whom ever should like to receive
it. Please contact me privately off group.
Robert O'Connor