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Adrian Channing

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APPENDIX


A COUNTS OF TOULOUSE There are a number of Lusignan/Toulouse
connections: (NB I think Raymond V is son of Raymond IV by
m3, but not certain)


..LAYOUT 1
Adele/Arsinde
Blanca d of Ct
FULK II of Anjou
by Gerberga m1
STEPHEN of
GEVAUDAN; m2
RAYMOND IIIa of
Toulouse; m3
LOUIS V of Fr;
m4 WILLIAM of
Provence m5?
OTTO WILLIAM
of Burgandy
m|2 m|4
| ----------------------------------
| | |
WILLIAM/GUILLIAME Constance BOSON I
III (-1037); of Toulouse
Tailefer; Ct of
TOULOUSE m Emma
de Provence
|
|
PONS III (992-
1060 Normandy)
Ct of TOULOUSE;
m Almodis
(-1071); de la
(Houte) Marche
|
|
|
-----------------------
| |
WILLIAM/GUILLIAME IV RAYMOND IV,(1041-);
(1040-1093 Huesca) Ct of TOULOUSE; m1?; m2?
Ct of TOULOUSE m m3 Elvira Alfonso base d
Emma de Mortaigne of ALFONSO VI K of
(c1058-1080) CASTILE and LEON
| m|1 m|3
| | -----
Philippa (c1073-28 | |
Nov 1117 Fontevraud); BERTRAND ALFONSO JOURDAIN RAYMOND V (-1194)
de Toulouse; m1 K (-1148) Ct of Ct of TOULOUSE
SANCHO RAMIREZ I TOULOUSE, Marquis m1 Richilde of
(c1042-1094) de of PROVENCE, & Silicia wdw of
Aragon; m2 WILLIAM Duke of NARBONNE; ALFONSO VII de
/GUILLAUME VII/IX m Faydide of Usez Leon-Castile
(1071-1126/7) of m2 Constance
POITOU/AQUITAINE (c1124-1176)
m|2 d of Louis VI
| King of France
-------------------------- m|2
| | | |
WILLIAM X Pr RAYMOND Matilda/ -------------
(1099-1137) (c1100-27 Agnes de ||| |
de AQUITAINE Jun 1149) de Aquitaine ||ALBERIC RAYMOND VI of
m Eleanore de Poitiers m m1 AMAURI ||TAILLEFER Toulouse (1156
Chatellerault Constance de Thouars |Adelaide Toulouse-1222)
(-aft Mar (1127-c1163) m2 K RAMIRO BALDWIN m1 Ermessinde
1129/30) de Antioch II de (-1165 of Melguell m2
| | Aragon Paris unm) Beatrix; m2
| ----------- | c1193 Burgundia
Eleanor || | -------- d of AMALRIC II
d'Aquitaine |BOHEMUND Philippa | (c1155-1205) K
(1123-31 |III de de Petronilla of Cyp Cyprus
Mar 1204) |Antioch m Antioch m1 Ct RAMON (see tree); m4
m1 K LOUIS |Orgueill- m1 BERENGUER Joan (1165
(1120-1180) |euse de HUMFRIED IV de Angers-1199
of Fr; m2 |Harnec II von Barcelona Fontevrault) d
K HENRY II BALDWIN Thoron; Mq of de of HENRY II by
(1133-1189) de m2 Emperor PROVENCE Eleanor of
of Eng ANTIOCH ANDRONIKIS Aquitaine and
| wdw of WILLIAM
Joan II K of SICILY);
see 5?
here m|4
-------------------
| |
RAYMOND VII; Mary/
ct of TOULOSE; Wilhelmina
m Margaret d (1198-) m
of HUGH X BERALD of
(see tree) Elbine Pr
(She m2 AMAURY of Orange
(sp) VIII vt
de THOUARS)

========================================================

B The Counts de la MARCHE are as follows (title acquired by
HUGH IX but not without a dispute)


BERNARD I (-1047); Ct de la (Haute)
Marche; m1 ________ m2 Amelia/Aina
(-1072) de Montignac
|
-------------------------------------------------
| | | | |
ADELBERT II EUDES I Almodis Rangarde Agnes m
(-1088); de m1 HUGH V m PIERRE RAMNULPHE
la Marche; m see tree RAIMOND ct de
Ponce m2 PONS IV de BEZIERS MONTMORILLON
| Ct TOULOUSE & pt of
| m3 RAMOND CARCASSONNE
| BERENGURE II
|
|
------------------------
| | |
BOSON/BOSO Almodis ____, In 1076
III (-1091 (-1116) eng' to SIMON
Confolens) m ROGER the ct de CREPY
ct de la Poitevin
MARCHE (-1123) who
in 1102 was
exiled from Eng, 4s of
ROGER (-1094) de
MONTGOMERY Er Shrewsbury
by Hildeburg d of ARNULF
|
-------------------------------------
| | | |
Ponce m ALDEBERT III BOSON IV EUDES II
WULGRIM ct de la MARCHE ct de la ct de la
TAILLEFER m Orengarde MARCHE MARCHE
ct de |
ANGOULEME ----------------------------------
| | | |
| ALDEBERT IV BOSON V ______
WULGRIM/ (-1180); Ct (-sp) m GUI (-1148
WILLIAM m de la MARCHE Antioch sp)
Marguerite m Mirable viscount de
de Turenne | LIMOGES
| -------------
----------- | |
| | ______ m? Marquis
Matilda AYMER; Ct GUILLAUME (-young)
m HUGH IX de ANGOULEME CALVUS
see tree m Alix de
Joigny d of
Pr PETER of
Fr, Ld COURTENAY
|
|
Isabella
Taillefeur
m1 K JOHN
of Eng; m2
HUGH X
see tree

========================================================

C From "History of Herefordshire" by John Edwin Cussans states
that: PETER de Valance (l 1093) was granted Northaw manor,
Herts., by the Abbot (-1093) and Monks of St Albans, who had
owned it in 1066. The grant was limited to the life time of
the Abbot but Peter refused to give it up on the Abbots death
as did his son ROGER and grand-son PETER.

How do these de Valences fit in?


D In O'Hart's Irish pedigrees, it is claimed that Geoffrey de
Lusignan was the ancestors of the Browne's of counties Galway
and Mayo. I don't know how much truth there is in this
claim. The Pedigree given therein starts as follows:

GEOFFREY (or Godfrey) left:

Sir HUGH le Brun one of the Lords of the Marches of Wales had:

Sir STEPHEN m Eva sister of GRIFFITH Pr of Wales. Sir Stephen
and his sons supported King STEPHEN against the Empress Maud,
and left three sons:

I. Hugh the eldest son, having rendered important services to
King Henry II on his invasion of Wales, was permitted by that
Monarch to inherit the father's large estates, but

II. Philip and

III. William having distinguished themselves in the Civil
Wars against Henry were, to escape his resentment, obliged to
join in the invasion of Ireland, in 1170, in which year Sir
Philip, of Mulrankan, was appointed Governor of Wexford. The
Brownes of Mulrankan remained in Wexford till their property
was confiscated in the Commonwealth period, under the
pretence that WILLIAM of Mulrankan had joined in the War of
1641. Sir Philip of Mulrankan is said to have been the
ancestor of the Matthew Browne of Mulrankan, from whose son,
Sir John Browne, are descended Lord Kilmaine and the Marquis
of Sligo.

3. Sir William: youngest son of Sir Stephen; landed in Ireland
with the Earl Marshal; went against Dublin, then in
possession of the Danes, and settled near Clondalkin. One of
his descendants Fromond le Brun, was Chancellor of Ireland in
1230, 1259, and 1272 Sir William had two sons I. Sir Nicholas
and II. Walter, of whom presently. Sir William and his son
Sir Nicholas were witnesses to the foundation Charter of
Dunbrody Abbey, co. Wexford, in 1182. |In c1182 Hervey de
Montmorency granted its charter and his nephew Herlewin
Bishop of Leighlin was a benefactor]

4. Walter; second son of Sir William; had:

5. Sir Stephen, who had two sons: I. Stephen, who settled in
Meath: and II. Sir David.

6. Sir David: second son of Sir Stephen, was companion-in-arms
of Rickard de Burgo, the Red Earl of Ulster, with whom he was
connected by marriage, and obtained extensive possessions
near Athenry, the capital of the Anglo-Norman settlers in
Connaught. He died at David's Castle; having with his son
Aymer built the Castle of Carrabrowne, in Oranmore.

7. Stephen: son of Sir David; was at the Battle of Athenry in
1316; and Dundalk in 1318, in which he was engaged under
Richard, the fourth Lord Athenry, and his brother Sir John
Bermingham, the first Earl of Louth. He m. Katherine de
Bermingham, dau. of Lord Athenry, and with daughters had four
sons: I. Henry, of whom presently. II. John of Stradbally.
III. Robert. IV. William.

8. Henry, of Ballydavid: eldest son of Stephen; joined his
relatives the Berminghams in the Civil Wars between the
Anglo-Irish Nobles, and subsequently accompanied the Earl of
Kildare to France, where he joined the Forces of Edward III.
On his return he m. Christian, dau. of Sir. Ambrose Browne,
of Kent, and had with other issue: .... etc.

FIN

Adrian (Surrey, UK) ACha...@CompuServe.Com


Todd A. Farmerie

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Adrian Channing wrote:
>
> APPENDIX
>
> A COUNTS OF TOULOUSE There are a number of Lusignan/Toulouse
> connections: (NB I think Raymond V is son of Raymond IV by
> m3, but not certain)
>
> ..LAYOUT 1
> Adele/Arsinde
> Blanca d of Ct
> FULK II of Anjou
> by Gerberga m1
> STEPHEN of
> GEVAUDAN; m2
> RAYMOND IIIa of
> Toulouse; m3
> LOUIS V of Fr;
> m4 WILLIAM of
> Provence m5?
> OTTO WILLIAM
> of Burgandy
> m|2 m|4
> | ----------------------------------
> | | |
> WILLIAM/GUILLIAME Constance BOSON I
> III (-1037); of Toulouse


Constance was not "of Toulouse". This derives from her erroneous
assignment as daughter of William III, who turns out to be her
half-brother. She should be "of Provence".


La Marche:


> Ponce m
> WULGRIM
> TAILLEFER
> ct de
> ANGOULEME
> |
> |
> WULGRIM/
> WILLIAM m
> Marguerite
> de Turenne
> |
> -----------
> | |
> Matilda AYMER; Ct


> m HUGH IX de ANGOULEME

> see tree m Alix de
> Joigny d of
> Pr PETER of
> Fr, Ld COURTENAY
> |
> |
> Isabella
> Taillefeur
> m1 K JOHN
> of Eng; m2
> HUGH X
> see tree

This is flawed in the placement of Matilda. It should read:

Ponce m. Wulgrim (probably not Taillefer)
of La | of Angouleme
Marche|
|
William m. Margaret
(not |
"Wulgrim/")|
|--------|----------|
Wulgrim Aymer
m. Ponce de m. Alix
Lusignan, dau. |
Hugh VII |
| |
Matilda Isabella
m. Hugh IX m. Hugh X
de Lusignan de Lusignan

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