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Douglas Richardson royalancestry@msn.com

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Complete Peerage, 7 (1929): 676-679 (sub Lincoln) includes a good
account of the Magna Carta baron, John de Lacy, Earl of Lincoln (died
1240). This account provides four children for him, all by his 2nd
marriage to Margaret de Quincy:

1. Edmund de Lacy, Earl of Lincoln, son and heir (see pg. 680).

2. Maud de Lacy, married about 25 Jan. 1237/8 Richard de Clare, Earl of
Gloucester and Hertford (see pg. 679, footnote g).

3-4. two unnamed daughters who were sent to Windsor Castle in 1243 to
be brought up with the king's daughters (see pg. 680, footnote a).

Besides these four children, I've also learned that John de Lacy had
an illegitimate son, Peter of Chester, whose career as a churchman is
covered by the Fasti Ecclesiae Anglicanae series:

1. Source: Diana E. Greenway, Fasti Ecclesiae Anglicanae 1066-1300, 6
(1999): 62-65 (sub Prebendaries of Bugthorpe):

Peter of Chester - Rector of Whalley (Lancs.) by 23 Dec. 1253 (see
Fasti Paroch. IV 113). Provost of Beverley by 1 May 1278, to death by
18 Feb. 1295 (Beverley Fasti p. 7). Abp.'s coll. to this preb. in
succession to Peter de
Sabello, with mandate to install, dated 5 March 1288 (Reg. Romeyn I
371). Papal injunction to archbishop to revoke coll. as Peter de
Sabello had d. at Rome during vacancy in papacy and pope Nicholas IV
(1288-92) had prov. Andrew of Languissel to this preb.; papal mandate
to induct Andrew 13 Jan. 1289 (Reg. Nic. IV no. 446, cal. CPL I 494).

Editor adds the following footnote: Illegitimate son of John de Lacy,
earl of Lincoln and constable of Chester. For his career, see Beverley
Fasti p. 7, Beverley Act-Book I p. xxix, and Fasti Paroch. I 6.

2. Source: J.S. Barrow, Fasti Ecclesiae Anglicanae 1066-1300, 8 (2002):
44-45 (sub Prebendaries of Huntington):

Peter of Chester - Collated to preb. of Huntington 8 Nov. 1277 (Reg.
Cantilupe p. 155). Peter occ. holding preb. of Huntington c. 1291
(Taxatio p. 170), so he evidently retained it after he was made provost
of Beverley, which occ.
before 1 May 1278. He died before 18 Feb. 1295 (R. T. W. McDermid,
Beverley Minster Fasti (Yorks. Archaeol. Soc. Record series cxlix,
1993) p. 7). Preb. of York (1 Fasti VI 64).

Besides the above five children, I find that there is one online
database which claims the existence of another daughter of John de Lacy
named Joan, which Joan was allegedly a child by his first marriage to
Alice de l'Aigle. This Joan married (1st) Thomas de Birkin and (2nd)
Henry de Longchamp. The following source is given for Joan's
existence: Paul Martin Remfry, Wilton Castle, 1066 to 1644 (Worcester:
SCS Publishing, 1998.), pp. 17, 20. I have not seen Remfry's work, but
I doubt it is correct. If John de Lacy and his first wife, Alice de
l'Aigle, had such a daughter, the estates of the Aigle family should
have gone to that daughter instead of escheating to the crown.

The information above expands and corrects Magna Carta Ancestry (2005),
pg. 479.

Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah

Website: www.royalancestry.net

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