Stewart Saga - One
Leo van de Pas
This may not be complete as I am still collecting
information. Some children may well be missing, but the
important members are here :
Walter Fitzalan, 1st High Steward of Scotland,
He was granted the hereditary office, the greatest under the Scottish
Crown, of High or Great Steward of Scotland. With it came vast estates.
About 1163 he founded the Paisley Priory for Cluniac monks and was made a
lay brother of the Benedictine Order. In 1164 he repelled the invasion into
Renfrewshire by the Islesmen. He died in 1177.
He married Eochyna de Molle, daughter of Thomas de Molle
Child : Generation I.
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Generation I.
1.Alan, 2nd High Steward of Scotland, died in 1204.
He appears to have joined the crusade of Richard
'Lionheart'. His wife, Eve, was probably a daughter of
Sweyn Thor'son, overlord of Crawford and ancestor of
the Ruthvens.
children : Generation II
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Generation II.
1.Walter Stewart, 3rd High Steward of Scotland, died 1241.
HE WAS THE FIRST TO ASSUME THE NAME STEWART as their
family name. About 1219 he raised the Paisley Priory
to the rank of an Abbacy and, from 1230, was Justiciar
of Scotland north of Perth.
married Beatrice of Angus, daughter of Gilchrist, Earl
of Angus
children Generation III
2.David
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Generation III
1.Alexander Stewart, 4th High Steward of Scotland
born 1214, died 1283
married Jean Macrory, daughter of James (Seumas)
Macrory, Lord of Bute
Children : Generation IV-1
2.John Stewart
killed in battle 1249 Damietta
3.Walter 'Bailloch', Earl of Menteith (jure uxoris)
died before 28 April 1296
married Mary of Menteith, daughter of Maurice 'the
Younger", Earl of Menteith
she died before 1286
Children : Generation IV-2
4.Elizabeth Stewart, died before 1250
married Maldouen, 3rd Earl of Lennox, son of Alwyn,
2nd Earl of Lennox, and Eve Menteith
died after 12 March 1250
5.Euphemia Stewart, died circa 1267
married before 1213
Patrick Dunbar, 5th or 6th Earl of Dunbar, son of Patrick,
4th or 5th Earl of Dunbar, and Ada of Scotland
died 1248 Marseille
In 1232 he succeeded his father as Earl of Dunbar. In 1235
he was in command of the army send against the Bastard
of Galloway, whom he subdued. He acted as guarantor of a
treaty with England in 1237 and again in 1244. He was in
charge of a Scottish army which left Scotland in November
1247 to join the French king Louis IX's crusade, but died
at Marseille between May and December 1248. His widow,
Euphemia Stewart, lived at Whittingham in East Lothian,
and died possibly about 1267.
6.Margaret Stewart
married Neil, 2nd Earl of Carrick, son of Duncan,
1st Earl of Carrick
died 1256
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Generation IV-1
1.James Stewart, 5th High Stewart of Scotland
born circa 1243, died 16 July 1309
In 1286 he was co-Regent of Scotland as one of the six
guardians of the Realm and supported the claims of the
elder Robert Bruce to the throne. Opposing Edward I,
King of England's attempts to dominate Scotland, in 1295
ratified the treaty with France but, in 1297, was forced
to submit to the English king. The English sent him to
negotiate with Wallace but joined him instead, and fought
for him against the English at Stirling Bridge. He
supported King Robert The Bruce and attended the Parliament
at St.Andrews. He died on 16 July 1309.
married Gille/Jill de Burgh, of Ulster, daughter of Walter
de Burgh, Lord of Connaught, 1st Earl of Ulster, and
Aveline FitzJohn, of Shere
Children : Generation V-1
2.Sir John Stewart, of Bonkill, Berwickshire
born circa 1250, killed in battle 22 July 1298 Falkirk
Wallace praised his bravery above all men. He brought his
own Islesmen from Bute and his wife's Border archers to
aid the national cause, but was killed fighting for Sir
William Wallace at the battle of Falkirk.
married Margaret de Bonkill, daughter of Alexander de
Bonkill.
Children : Generation V-2
3.Elizabeth Stewart
married Sir William Douglas "Le Hardi", son of
Sir William Douglas
died as prisoner before 24 January 1296 in London
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Generation IV-2
1.Alexander, Earl of Menteith
died before 1306
married Maud
children : Generation V-3
2.Sir John de Menteith of Rusky
died circa 1323
married NN
children : generation V-4
To be continued :
Leo van de Pas
Todd A. Farmerie
> Generation III
> 1.Alexander Stewart, 4th High Steward of Scotland
> born 1214, died 1283
> married Jean Macrory, daughter of James (Seumas)
> Macrory, Lord of Bute
> Children : Generation IV-1
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> Generation IV-1
> 1.James Stewart, 5th High Stewart of Scotland
> born circa 1243, died 16 July 1309
> 2.Sir John Stewart, of Bonkill, Berwickshire
> born circa 1250, killed in battle 22 July 1298 Falkirk
> 3.Elizabeth Stewart
> married Sir William Douglas "Le Hardi", son of
I don't have the details handy, but a daughter of Alexander married John
de Soulis, and had a daughter and heiress Muriel who was married to
Robert (or was it Richard) Lord Lovel. (see CP for this).
taf
Leo van de Pas
Dear Tod,
Where do we look? The Complete Peerage Volume VIII
page 206, there we find that "Richard Lovel married before 1307, Muriel
daughter and heir of Sir John de Soules, his
first guardian, by Hawise sister of Sir James FitzAlan,
Stewart of Scotland."
To be fair, this is a horrid description which so easily
confuses. "Sir James FitzAlan, Stewart of Scotland".
Surely if he is the 5th High Steward, then he should have
been named James FitzAlexander? This line of the family,as far as I
understand, did not use 'patronyms'.
Paget in his volume I page 212, does not mention Hawise.
Where do we go from here?
Leo van de Pas
Todd A. Farmerie
>
> At 06:26 PM 12/13/98 -0500, you wrote:
>
> Where do we look? The Complete Peerage Volume VIII
> page 206, there we find that "Richard Lovel married before 1307, Muriel
> daughter and heir of Sir John de Soules, his
> first guardian, by Hawise sister of Sir James FitzAlan,
> Stewart of Scotland."
Oops, my mistake. I was going from memory, James it is.
> To be fair, this is a horrid description which so easily
> confuses. "Sir James FitzAlan, Stewart of Scotland".
> Surely if he is the 5th High Steward, then he should have
> been named James FitzAlexander? This line of the family,as far as I
> understand, did not use 'patronyms'.
I think CP here has bowed to tradition, and used the name FitzAlan for
the entire family. (I do not know when/if they switched from
patromymics to a surname, prior to adopting Steward.) That he calls him
Stewart of Scotland though makes the identity of the intended father
unambiguous.
> Paget in his volume I page 212, does not mention Hawise.
> Where do we go from here?
Don't know. I haven't tracked this down in any detail, since I don't
have access to good Scotch.
I suspect that Sir John de S is the key. I remember finding a little on
him here and there, but nothing substantial. He appears to have been
uncle of one of the competitors.
taf
Leo van de Pas
>Leo van de Pas wrote:
>>
>> At 06:26 PM 12/13/98 -0500, you wrote:
>>
>> Where do we look? The Complete Peerage Volume VIII
>> page 206, there we find that "Richard Lovel married before 1307, Muriel
>> daughter and heir of Sir John de Soules, his
>> first guardian, by Hawise sister of Sir James FitzAlan,
>> Stewart of Scotland."
>
>Oops, my mistake. I was going from memory, James it is.
Dear Taf,
Don't apologise too quickly YOU WERE CORRECT, you said
she was daughter of Alexander and, if she is, then she is
SISTER to James. Spot on.
However, I would love to see just one other source to confirm
this. What if her brother James Fitzalan is a Fitzalan from the other
branch and the Steward of Scotland part is wrong?
Leo
Henry Sutliff
>
> >>> Where do we look? The Complete Peerage Volume VIII
> >> page 206, there we find that "Richard Lovel married before 1307, Muriel
> >> daughter and heir of Sir John de Soules, his
> >> first guardian, by Hawise sister of Sir James FitzAlan,
> >> Stewart of Scotland."
> Dear Taf,
> Don't apologise too quickly YOU WERE CORRECT, you said
> she was daughter of Alexander and, if she is, then she is
> SISTER to James. Spot on.
>
> However, I would love to see just one other source to confirm
> this. What if her brother James Fitzalan is a Fitzalan from the other
> branch and the Steward of Scotland part is wrong?
> Leo
>
>
> >I think CP here has bowed to tradition, and used the name FitzAlan for
> >the entire family. (I do not know when/if they switched from
> >patromymics to a surname, prior to adopting Steward.) That he calls him
> >Stewart of Scotland though makes the identity of the intended father
> >unambiguous.
CP XIV makes no corrections or additions to the Lovel family with regard to
ancestry of Muriel de Soulis.
> >I suspect that Sir John de S is the key. I remember finding a little on
> >him here and there, but nothing substantial. He appears to have been
> >uncle of one of the competitors.
> >
> >taf
Was this Nicholas de Soulis?
Henry Sutliff