Téllez de Meneses puzzle
maria emma escobar
> While I wait for our librarian to get me those
> references (Thanks, Todd!), I have browsed through
> some books I have and found:
>
> 1) There is the family of Afonso Betote, count of
> Deza
> and Tuy in the late 9th century who has a son Telo
> Alfonso and another one, Teodo Alfonso, whoi is
> believed by E. Sáez to have settled in Galiza.
>
> 2) In one of Maria Emma's previous posts I find
> reference to a marriage between Telo Teles and Mayor
> Soares, before 1111. Could that be the factual
> source
> for the marriage (given in the _Livro de Linhagens_)
> between Pedro Bernardes de Sahagún and Mor Soares da
> Maya?
>
> 3) Is there any documentation - besides the fact of
> the ownership of Meneses - that connects Telo Peres
> (m. to Gontrode Garcia in 1161) and Alfonso Teles?
>
> chico
> The most important works about subjects and families
related with the Tellez de Meneses are this
recommended by Taf.
The great majority of the documents related with the
Alfonsos are in Sahagun monastery:
"Colección documental del monasterio de Sahagun" 5
vols;.
"Santa María de Piasca", Julia Montenegro Valentín
(this monastery was founded by the father of the
Alfonso brothers. who was probably from Cantabria. The
monastery was in that zone.
More information about the Tellez family in:
"El monasterio de Gradefes. Apuntes para su
historia.." Aurelio Calvo. León 1.936- 1.945. this
mosastery was founded by Teresa Pérez, mother-in-law
of Tello Pérez.
"Doña Teresa Pérez, fundadora del monasterio de
Gradefes. Su familia y su vida".;José María Canal
Sánchez-Pagín. Cistercium, # 175, 1988. Pags. 569 a
585.
"Documentos del monasterio de Santa María de Trianos
(siglos XII y XIII)".; Guillermo and Javier Castán
Lanaspa.
And also in the documents of a hospital founded by
Tello Pérez:
"San Nicolás del Real camino, un hospital de leprosos
castellano-leones en la edad media"; Guillermo Castán
Lanaspa, in Publicaciones de la Institución Tello
Téllez de Meneses, 51, 1.984.
In this last publication is a document dated in 1.198:
"Ego Tel Pétriz uan cum filis meis A(lfonso) Telliz et
Tel Telliz et Suer Telliz…."
and in the cartulaire of the monastery of Gradefes is
another chart:
"Ego dominus Tellius una cum filiis meis Alfonsus
Tellii, et Garcia Tellii et Taresia TelliiTellus
Tellii et Suerus Tellii facimus kartam..".
I have a theory about this family and is this: About
the year 920 was a "conde" in the north of Castilla :
valle of Mena and Alava: gonzalo Tellez "conde in
Lantarón," a possible related with the family of
Fernán González by his wife Flamula. A "Tello
González" is probably his son and maybe an Assur
Gonzalez another son or a nephew. With the rice of
fernán Gonzalez all this families had problems:
Tellez, Assures, Herrameliz, Velas,etc and we know
that some of them went to Leon. We can find in "Tierra
de Campos" a town named Villaramel (Villaherrameliz)
and ten kms. far of it is the town of Meneses (people
from Mena valley) and near its is Sealices (San
Felices) and Felix was the saint patron of Gonzalo
Téllez family, and there was another town named "Vega
de Don Felis" in "tierra de Campos" and another:
"Castellanos" in part a property of the Tellez.
This families came to León, under the authority of the
king and along two centuries he mixed with all the
families who arrived to Tierra de Campos: Beni Gómez,
Flainez, Alfonsos,etc, but they kept some tradicions
and one is the name of Tello. There are few Tellos in
León and Galicia, but was frequent in Castilla and
Alava, specially in the X and XI century.
In relation with the legend about the origin of the
Tellez , there are some curious points: One is this:
The legend said that the antecessor of the Tellez:
Alfonso Ordoñez founded the monastery of Santa María
de Liébana., but the real fact is that another
Alfonso: Alfonso Díaz , the origin of the family, had
in 997 a narrow relation with a monastery situated
also in Cantabria: Santa María de Piasca, probably
founded by his family. The same land, the same name.
I don´t think the Tello from Galicia would be in
relation with Tello Pérez. I believe this family had
been in Tierra de Campos for at least two centuries.
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