Arundel and de Vere tombs, Chichester cathedral

[mj...@btinternet.com]

Just back from the south coast. While there, I called in to
Chichester Cathedral, and have various snaps that as usual I am happy
to pass on to anyone interested.

These include:

(1) the tomb of Joan de Vere (d 1293), daughter of Robert, Earl of
Oxford, which features very early instances of "weepers" on the side,
with traces of what may be original colour

(2) the Tudor arms from the Royal Chantry off the Cloisters

(3) the tomb of Richard, Earl of Arundel (d 1376) and his wife,
holding hands [his nose appears to have been replaced!]

(4) the Bradbridge brass (1590)

(5) the splendid painted effigy & tomb of Bishop Robert Sherburne (d
1536)

(6) the tomb of Bishop George Day (d 1556) with an heraldic brass

(7) the tomb of Bishop William Barlow (d 1568)

(8) the painted portraits of the various bishops, including John
Arundel (1459-1478)

(9) the tomb of Bishop Story (d 1503), and his painted portrait

Regards, Michael

[ADRIANCH...@aol.com]

In a message dated 12/04/2007 21:05:41 GMT Standard Time,
mj...@btinternet.com writes:

>>>
(3) the tomb of Richard, Earl of Arundel (d 1376) and his wife,
holding hands [his nose appears to have been replaced!]
>>>

More than just his nose, both of the effigies were completely, but rather
badly, reconstructed, I doubt there was any suggestion of "hand holding" in the
original. There was a poem written about this tomb, if I remember correctly
by Philip Larkin. There should be a thread on this subject in the archives
under the heading of "An Arundel Tomb?" in March 2001

regards,
Adrian

[CE Wood]

I thought Richard, Earl of Arundel (d 1376) was buried in Lewes
Priory.

CE Wood

[mj...@btinternet.com]

On 12 Apr., 23:33, "CE Wood" <wood...@msn.com> wrote:
> I thought Richard, Earl of Arundel (d 1376) was buried in Lewes
> Priory.
>
> CE Wood

He was - originally. As Adrian has noted, there is some controversy
about the tomb as reconstructed at Chichester. The note attached to
it in the cathedral reads:

"The figures represent Richard FitzAlan, 13th Earl of Arundel
(c1307-1376) and his second wife Eleanor, who by his will of 1375 were
to be buried together 'without pomp' in the chapter house of Lewes
Priory... The joined hands have been thought due to 'restoration' by
Edward Richardson (1812-69) but recent research has shown this feature
to be original. If so, this monument must be one of the earliest
allowing this concession to affection where the husband was a knight
rather than a civilian [sic]".

This tomb and that of Joan de Warenne (nee de Vere) appear to have
been removed to Chichester from Lewes after the Dissolution.

MA-R

[mj...@btinternet.com]

On 12 Apr., 22:54, ADRIANCHANNIN...@aol.com wrote:
> In a message dated 12/04/2007 21:05:41 GMT Standard Time,
>

> m...@btinternet.com writes:
>
> (3) the tomb of Richard, Earl of Arundel (d 1376) and his wife,
> holding hands [his nose appears to have been replaced!]
>
>
>
> More than just his nose, both of the effigies were completely, but rather
> badly, reconstructed, I doubt there was any suggestion of "hand holding" in the
> original. There was a poem written about this tomb, if I remember correctly
> by Philip Larkin. There should be a thread on this subject in the archives
> under the heading of "An Arundel Tomb?" in March 2001
>
> regards,
> Adrian

Thanks Adrian - I have located and read this - very interesting.

It may be found here:

http://groups.google.de/group/soc.genealogy.medieval/browse_thread/thread/6dda3b4c39b56a11/08b7c2d06211d12e?lnk=gst&q=an+arundel+tomb&rnum=1&hl=de#08b7c2d06211d12e

Cheers, Michael