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Sir William Rede of Boarstall 1467-1527

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lesleys...@aol.com

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May 16, 2015, 6:15:15 AM5/16/15
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Dear Newsgroup

In my line I have

Sir Edmund Rede 1415-1489
William Rede 1434-bef1489
Sir William Rede 1467-1527
unnamed daughter m William Tipping b1475

I have seen many trees which all completely miss out the first William, showing Edmund as the father of Sir William, but in Edmund's will in the Boarstall Cartulary his heir is his grandson, his father having pre-deceased him and Edmund.

Sir William I believe married twice, to Ann Donne and Anne Warham, but many trees give a wife Anne Wortham or Wantham.

Can anyone out there tell me who married William Tipping and which William she may have been the daughter of? The Boarstall Cartulary says William I had only one daughter Katharine.

Many thanks
Lesley

robert...@gmail.com

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May 17, 2015, 4:51:11 AM5/17/15
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Lesley

I live at Boarstall Tower and do occasionally record information about Boarstall and its occupants when I have a moment although I have no family connections. My entries for this are not very thorough as my research is in fine art where I do try to do the job properly.

I have created my own system for recording history of all sorts and everything goes into this.

I haven't put up my sources for the Boarstall material (I do for everything else) but, apart from the cartulary, my other source may have been

Parochial Antiquities Attempted in the History of Ambrosden, Burcester, and Other Adjacent Parts In the Counties of Oxford and Bucks.
author White Kennett D.D., Oxford 1695.

I have a copy but no time to research.

STIPPLE - my database - tells me

Sir Edmund Rede
children Edmund Rede (II)
married Christina Rede (née James), -

Edmund Rede (II)
No marriage or issue recorded but that may just mean that I haven't come across anything yet - I am not looking. On the other hand, I note that I haven't recorded a baronetcy for Edmund II. This may be because he predeceased his father.

Sir William Rede (of Boarstall)
children Lady Anne Parry (olim Greville, olim Fortescue, née Rede); Leonard Rede
married Lady Anne Rede (née Don) 1st wife, 1471 - 1507; Lady Anne Rede (née Warham) 2nd wife,

The only daughter I have is Anne, but that doesn't mean that he didn't have any other children. If I have recorded the data properly, William seems to have been rather fond of Anne's - perhaps that is my carelessness.

I do not have an entry for the second William and all I have for William Tipping is that he was a surveyor of highways.

I don't know if this helps. Have you ever been to Boarstall? The house has gone but the Tower, where we live and which was built in 1312, remains. We do open to the public - go to www.boarstall.com Our guided tours, given by volunteers, are very good.



Best wishes

Rob Dixon




wjhonson

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May 17, 2015, 2:35:09 PM5/17/15
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What is your source for the 1467 birthyear above?

lesleys...@aol.com

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May 18, 2015, 7:49:52 AM5/18/15
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Hi

According to the Boarstall Cartulary, William the eldest son of Edmund Rede was alive 1456 (doc re Austin Friars granting chambers to Edmund and heirs for life) and his son William was described in the Inquisition Post Mortem of 1489 as 22 years and more.

Thanks for your interest.
Lesley

Colin Withers via

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May 19, 2015, 5:59:47 AM5/19/15
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Licenses to found a chantry are a common entry in the Patent Rolls, but
I can find very little information on the process.

For example:

1. When was the requirement for such licenses introduced?

2. Were licenses required for chantries in private chapels?

3. Did chantries also have to have the approval of the Bishop or Archbishop?

4. Do petitions for the granting of a chantry license survive, and if
so, in which class in TNA are they?

5. Did Bishops have to get a license to establish a chantry for
themselves in the Cathedral of which they were Bishop, or were they exempt?

If anyone knows the answers to any of these questions, or can point me
to a likely resource, I would be most grateful.

Wibs

Tompkins

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May 19, 2015, 6:09:53 AM5/19/15
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Off the top of my head, I don't think a licence was required for the founding of a chantry per se - it was endowing it with land to provide an income which needed a licence, under the Statute of Mortmain 1279 (which forbade the transfer of land held to an ecclesiastical institution without royal licence).

Matt Tompkins

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Darrell E. Larocque

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Jan 31, 2023, 8:30:05 PM1/31/23
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I am currently working on this line on WikiTree and there is a book, History of the Reed family in Europe and America by Jacob Whittemore Reed, who makes a mess of this line, naming Christine as "Christine de Lapole" and her father as "Robert James de Lapole". I have to completely rebuild this branch and your thoroughness will help me further repair the damage.

To all who contributed to this thread, thank you!

Darrell

Lesley Springate

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Feb 22, 2023, 1:43:22 PM2/22/23
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Lesley Springate

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Feb 22, 2023, 1:43:38 PM2/22/23
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On Wednesday, 1 February 2023 at 01:30:05 UTC, Darrell E. Larocque wrote:
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