FREVILLE

[Robert O'Connor]

Does anyone have the Freville line back from Sir Baldwin Freville d 1388?

Thanks

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Robert O'Connor
roco...@es.co.nz
Christchurch
New Zealand

[G . EDWARD ALLEN]

I believe that i posted this recently. Please check the archives. If
it's not there, get back to me.

Kay Allen AG all...@pacbell.net

[ED MANN]

Robert O'Connor wrote:
>
> Does anyone have the Freville line back from Sir Baldwin Freville d 1388?

Descendants of Alexander de Freville

1 Alexander de Freville d: 1328 ref #: BxP:224
+Joane de Cromwell ref #: BxP:224
2 Sir Baldwin de Freville d: Abt. 1343 ref #: BxP:224
+Elizabeth de Montfort ref #: BxP:377
3 Sir Baldwin de Freville aka: Knt. b: Abt. 1317 d: 1375 ref #:
BxP:224
+Ida de Clinton
4 Sir Baldwin de Freville b: Abt. 1351 d: Abt. 1388 ref #:
(Ä230A-33)
+Joyce de Botetourte b: Abt. 1368 d: 12 Aug 1420 ref #: W101A-7

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FWIW; AFAIK; IMHO; YMMV; yadda, yadda, yadda.

Regards, Ed Mann mailto:edl...@mail2.lcia.com

References:
Ä = Weis, _Ancestral_Roots_, 7th ed.
AACPW = Roberts & Reitwiesner, _American Ancestors and Cousins of
the Princess of Wales_, [page].
AAP = Roberts, _Ancestors_of_American_Presidents_, [page] or
[Pres. # : page].
BP1 = _Burke's_Presidential_Families_, 1st ed. [page].
BPci = _Burke's_Peerage_, 101st ed., [page].
BRF = Weir, _Britain's_Royal_Families_, [page].
BxP = _Burke's_Dormant_&_Extinct_Peerages_, [page].
EC1 = Redlich, _Emperor_Charlemagne's_Descendants_, Vol I, [page].
EC2 = Langston & Buck, _Emperor_Charlemagne's_Descendants_, Vol II,
[page].
EC3 = Buck & Beard, _Emperor_Charlemagne's_Descendants_, Vol II,
[page].
F = Faris, _Plantagenet_Ancestry_, [page:para].
NK1 = Roberts, _Notable_Kin_Volume_One_, [page].
Π= Hardy, _Colonial_Families_of_the_Southern_States_of_America_,
[page].
S = Stuart, _Royalty_for_Commoners_, 2d ed. Caveat emptor.
W = Weis, _Magna_Charta_Sureties,_1215_, 4th ed.
WFT = Broderbund's World Family Tree CD, [vol]:[num] Caveat emptor.
WMC = Wurt's Magna Charta, [vol]:[page]

[Mardi Carter]

I am wondering how to fit the following into the Freville family:

Roger, of Wolston, Wars, dau. Sibyl m Robert Chetwode (b 1145/55).

mbc

[G . EDWARD ALLEN]

ED MANN wrote:
>
> Robert O'Connor wrote:
> >
> > Does anyone have the Freville line back from Sir Baldwin Freville d 1388?
>
> Descendants of Alexander de Freville
>
> 1 Alexander de Freville d: 1328 ref #: BxP:224
> +Joane de Cromwell ref #: BxP:224
> 2 Sir Baldwin de Freville d: Abt. 1343 ref #: BxP:224
> +Elizabeth de Montfort ref #: BxP:377
> 3 Sir Baldwin de Freville aka: Knt. b: Abt. 1317 d: 1375 ref #:
> BxP:224
> +Ida de Clinton
> 4 Sir Baldwin de Freville b: Abt. 1351 d: Abt. 1388 ref #:
> (Ä230A-33)
> +Joyce de Botetourte b: Abt. 1368 d: 12 Aug 1420 ref #: W101A-7
>
> --
> FWIW; AFAIK; IMHO; YMMV; yadda, yadda, yadda.
>
> Regards, Ed Mann mailto:edl...@mail2.lcia.co

This is a little more complete:

"The Frevilles of Tamworth Castle, Staffordshire", Genealogists'
Magazine, June 1984: 185 et seq. Patrick Montague-Smith.

1. Sir Baldwin d. 1387.
2. Sir Baldwin, b.1317;d. 1375.
3. Ida Clinton.
4. Sir Baldwin, b. 1297; d. 1343.
5. Elizabeth Montfort.
6. 1st. Lord Clinton.
8. Sir Alexander, d. 1328.
9. Joan Cromwell, d. 1339.
16. Sir Baldwin, d. ca. 1257.
17. Maud Gifford of Boyton, Wilts.
32. Sir Baldwin of Wellingham, Norfolk.

Kay Allen AG all...@pacbell.net

[Robert O'Connor]

Thanks Kay for the Freville line, & for the detailed reference.

Is this a line that you are interested in? If so, I have a question. As
John 1st Baron Clinton died in 1310, I don't think he could be the father
of Ida who married Sir Baldwin Freville 1317-75. It would seem more likely
that her father was the 2nd Baron, also named John?

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