Whalesborough
Cochoit
number of unconnected Whalesborough families in my and Leo’s
database. Ronnie Bodine in 1999 had an outline of the family, but his
post has a number of errors in it which got me started on tracking
down references. My version of the family is below; it has become
quite long when I include the references and extraneous details so I
will break it up into 2 parts. So, in the category of ‘way too much
information on an obscure family’ :
PHARAMUS de WALEBREU. [1] Born most likely before 1160 as he already
had a daughter old enough to be married when a fine was recorded 19
Oct 1196 between Guy de Wautam, plaintiff and Pharamus de Walebraus,
tenant, regarding 1/2 knight's fee in Tregaradoc (Tregardock in St.
Teath); Guy, “who had married Beatrice daughter of the said Pharamus,”
claimed Tegaradock for life against Pharamus, as the marriage portion
of Beatrice. [2, 3, 4] Guy quit-claimed all rights to the land to
Pharamus for 24 marks of silver.
It is likely he was the son Everwin De Walesbraus who granted Mawgan
to Muriel (Everwin’s daughter) on her marriage to Richard De
Lancelles. Pharamus was in a dispute with Muriel and Richard De
Lancelles with Pharamus agreeing that Muriel and Richard had the right
to the lands of Mawgan, but arguing that the advowson still belonged
to him. [5] While the fine explicitly states that Muriel was the
daughter of Everwin, it does not directly state Everwin’s relationship
to Pharamus, so another relationship is possible.
Pharamus (Faramo, Faramus) de Walebraus first appears in the Pipe
Rolls of Michaelmas 1199 and with the exception of 1201, appears each
year until 1207 [6] He was last noted living between 1210-1212 when
in the Liber Rubeus of the Exchequer he was holding a knight’s fee in
Cornwall. [7] He was dead in 1213 when Osemunda, who was the wife of
Pharami De Walebrawes, was claiming dower in the lands of her husband.
[7, 8] She was still living on 28 Apr 1214 when a final agreement as
to her dower was finally reached; Osemunda who was the wife of
Pharamus de Walebrawuse, plaintiff and Robert de Cardinham, tenant, by
their representatives, Osemunda claimed as her reasonable dower by the
gift of Pharamus 1/3 part of the townships of Walebrawuse
(Whalesborough in Marhamchurch), Elem (Hellan in Probus), Lameinwall
(Lamanva in Budock), Trieseder (Tresidder in St. Buryan), and Hithenho
(Edno in Perran-Uthno). Robert granted to Osemunda the manors of
Walebrawuse and Lameinwal, to hold during her life, and Osemunda quit-
claimed the remainder of the premises." [9]
i. William. See next.
ii. Beatrice m. Guy de Wautam
1. Based on Ronny Bodine SGM Feb 25 1999 Whalesborough-Walesbreu of
Cornwall. http://tinyurl.com/y2bcneg
2. Feet of Fines, Richard I (1196-1197) p. 10 http://tinyurl.com/ya3ucg7
Cornwall Feet of Fines p. 2 http://tinyurl.com/39zr6fz
3. Parochial and Family History of the Parishes of St. Teath and
Temple,(1876) p. 43 http://tinyurl.com/yc3ndp2
4. Journal of the Royal Institution of Cornwall vol. 10 p. 385
http://tinyurl.com/y3fncoy
5. Introduction to the Curia Regis rolls, 1199-1230 A.D. by Cyril
Thomas Flower http://tinyurl.com/ydpsse2
6. Ronny Bodine SGM citing Publications of the Pipe Roll Society,
vols. 48-60 http://tinyurl.com/y2bcneg
7. Red Book of the Exchequer = (Liber Rubeus de Scaccario) vol. 2 p.
540 http://tinyurl.com/33dv2mu
8. Regis Curia Rolls, vol. 7 (1213-1215) p. 21-22, 41-42 http://tinyurl.com/2g327ms
9. Cornwall Feet of Fines no. 39 p. 18-19 http://tinyurl.com/34tkwqu
WILLIAM de WALEBRAUS. [1] Presumed son based on him being the next
Walebraus to occur in records holding the manor of Uthno. Ronny
Bodine in his SGM post makes William De Walebraus in records 1228-1236
the same as the William with records 1269-1285; however, given the
clustering of records, the 30 year gap in time, and the fact that
Pharamus was born before 1160 while the son of Mark was born c1288, it
is almost impossible that these are the same person. He was born
before 1208 (prossibly well before) as he would have been of age when
as Willelmus de Walebreu he is a tenant in Hutheno in 1228-9 and
1235-6. [2] He also occurs in the Close Rolls in 1235. [3]
i. Bennet. See next.
1. Based on Ronny Bodine SGM Feb 25 1999 Whalesborough-Walesbreu of
Cornwall. http://tinyurl.com/y2bcneg
2. The Book of Fees (Testa De Nevill), 1: 394, 436 http://tinyurl.com/2azjdpp
3. Cal. of Close Rolls, Henry III (1234-1237) p. 198 http://tinyurl.com/22oen5a
BENNET de WALISBOROUGH. Presumed son based on the descent of manors
from the William before to his son William. Known to me only from
‘Thomas Chiverton’s Book of Obits’ which says Cecilia, wife of William
Trewarthian, was the daughter of Bennet de Walisborough, kt. and the
sister of William, kt. [1] It seems likely, based on dates, that
there belongs a generation between the first and second William.
i. William. See next.
ii. Cecilia m. William Trewarthian. She died 8 March 1293. [1]
1. Hull, P. L., "Thomas Chiverton's Book of Obits," Devon & Cornwall
Notes & Queries 33:5 (Autumn 1975), p. 143
WILLIAM de WALEBRAUS. [1] The next holder of the Walebraus lands. He
is probably the first where there is any sense of certainty that he is
the father of the next generation. He appears to have been born by
1240 as the first record likely to pertain to him occurred in 1261
when William de Walebreus paid a 20s fine for a writ of ad terminum.
[2]
He appears in a fine of 18 Nov 1269 between John de Trejagu, plaintiff
and William de Walebraus, tenant, regarding 1 messuage and 1 plowland
in Skuyek (Skewjack in Sennen). John quit-claimed all rights to
William for 30 marks of silver. [3] William occurs in the Close
Rolls in a couple of suits in 1274 and 1276. [4] On 2 Feb 1277, he had
protection until Midsummer to go to Wales on the King's service and on
15 June 1278 had protection until Christmas going to Santiago. [5] He
occurs in a suit on 15 October 1278. [6]
‘Thomas Chiverton’s Book of Obits’ refers to “Margaret, his wife.” [7]
He may have had a second wife as there is a suit in 1278 where Maurice
Camme brought a writ of novel disseisen regarding Wotton against
William Walybreus and Amice his wife. [8]
He died in 1278/79 (7 Edward 1) as his son Mark De Walebraus had an
assize of mort d’ancestor regarding two parts of the manors of
Walebreus and Helen (Elem?) against William De Botrell. [9,10] In
the IPM of Edmund Earl of Cornwall on 13 Nov 1285, 1 fee in Hudno was
held by the heir of William de Walesbreu. [11]
1. Based on Ronny Bodine SGM Feb 25 1999 Whalesborough-Walesbreu of
Cornwall. http://tinyurl.com/y2bcneg
2. Henry III Fine Rolls Project, Fines 46 HENRY III (28 October 1261–
27 October 1262) membrane 15 no. 185 http://tinyurl.com/22p4f7p
3. Ronny Bodine SGM citing Cornwall Feet of Fines, no. 237
4. Cal. of Close Rolls, Edward I (1272-1279), p. 224, 411 http://tinyurl.com/2fa28du
5. Cal. of Patent Rolls, Edward I, vol. 1 (1272-1281) p. 191, 207,
269 http://tinyurl.com/25sl2j3 http://tinyurl.com/2akms2s
http://tinyurl.com/288kypg
6. Cal. of the Close Rolls, Edward I (1272-1279) p. 508 http://tinyurl.com/22p4f7p
7. Hull, P. L., "Thomas Chiverton's Book of Obits," Devon & Cornwall
Notes & Queries 33:5 (Autumn 1975), p. 145
8. National Archives, SC 8/275/13717 http://tinyurl.com/26wpblf
9. Annual Report of the Deputy Keeper of the Public Records, Volume
48, p. 196 http://tinyurl.com/26ysmsp
10. Parliamentary papers, Volume 44 p. 196 http://tinyurl.com/28zfztm
11. Cal. of IPM vol. III, no. 604 p. 476 http://tinyurl.com/297x7up
MARK (Marke, Marcus, Marci) de WALESBREU. [1] Born before 1258 as
he was an adult in 7 Edward 1 (1278/1279) when Mark De Walebreus had
an assize of mort d’ancestor regarding two parts of the manors of
Walebreus and Helen (Elem?) against William De Botrell. [2,3] As
Marke le Walebreus he witnessed a deed in 1287/8 involving the
wardship of John Le Sor. [4,5] ‘Thomas Chiverton’s Book of Obits’
identifies him as “Mark Whalesbreu, son of the said William.” Hal
Bradley says he died December 1300, though this date doesn’t appear in
‘Thomas Chiverton’s Book of Obits’ which is given as the source; this
also doesn’t mesh with statements by Ronny Bodine that his son William
was a ward of William Bottreux by 1293. [6,7] It may be an
inaccurate assumption that William De Walesborough was a ward of
Bottreux when he married (at age 5) in 1293. Mark was certainly dead
by 3 Jan 1301 when John le Brun was presented to the church of St.
Mawgan by reason of the custody of the land and heir of Mark de
Whalesbrewe belonging to the King through the death of Edmund, Earl of
Cornwall. [8] In 1303 and 1306, the heirs of Marci De Welebraus held
2 parts of Hudno, and the heirs of Mathei (sic) de Walesbreu held
Lanmaylwen. [9] In 1346, John de Walesbreu (his grandson) was noted
as holding 2 parts of Udno which had been held by Marcus de Walesbreu.
[10]
He married Matilda Arundell, the “daughter of the Lord Ralph Arundell”
so a daughter of Sir Ralph Arundell and Eve De La Roche. [11,12,13]
i. JOHN de WALESBREU. Dead by 1302 when his brother William
became heir to the Whalesborough lands.
ii. Sir WILLIAM de WALESBREU. See next.
iii. JOAN de WALESBREU. m. Roger Reskimer, kt., son and heir of
Richard Reskimer, kt. by Alice Prideaux. Joan died 18 March 1346;
Roger died 2 April 1351. [14]
1. Based on Ronny Bodine SGM Feb 25 1999 Whalesborough-Walesbreu of
Cornwall. http://tinyurl.com/y2bcneg
2. Annual Report of the Deputy Keeper of the Public Records, Volume
48, p. 196 http://tinyurl.com/26ysmsp
3. Parliamentary papers, Volume 44 p. 196 http://tinyurl.com/28zfztm
4. Cal. of Ancient Deeds, vol. 5 p. 9. no. 10487 http://tinyurl.com/yfdeukq
5. Perhaps in support of Mark De Whalesborough marrying Matilda
Arundell, the senior line of Arundell (Matilda’s nephew) married the
heiress of Le Soor) http://tinyurl.com/ycwands
6. Hull, P. L., "Thomas Chiverton's Book of Obits," Devon & Cornwall
Notes & Queries 33:5 (Autumn 1975), p. 145.
7. Ronny Bodine SGM Feb 25 1999 Whalesborough-Walesbreu of Cornwall.
http://tinyurl.com/y2bcneg
8. Cal. of Patent Rolls Ed. I vol. 3 p. 561 http://tinyurl.com/23cav8u
9. Feudal Aids vol. 1, p. 195, 199, 203 http://tinyurl.com/2flnsqd
10. Feudal Aids vol. 1, p. 209 http://tinyurl.com/yzj6mlw
11. Hull, P. L., "Thomas Chiverton's Book of Obits," Devon & Cornwall
Notes & Queries 33:5 (Autumn 1975), p. 145
12. Arundell of Lanherne and Trerice. Cornwall Record Office, [AR/
2/732 - AR/2/1398] National Archives – Access to Archives (for
Arundell family) http://tinyurl.com/ycwands
13. Baronetage of England: or The History of the English baronets,
Vol. 2 by William Betham “married a daughter of Ralph Arundel citing
“Ex Stemmate” http://tinyurl.com/23fc9z5
14. Hull, P. L., "Thomas Chiverton's Book of Obits," Devon & Cornwall
Notes & Queries 33:6 p. 189.
Sir WILLIAM de WALESBREU. [1] born c1288 as he was age 14 in 1302
when he was heir to his older brother John who d.s.p.[2] He was of
Whalesborough (parish of St. Mawnan), Perran-Uthno (Udnow), Trerose,
Langkerf (Lancarffe), Lamelwen (Lamellion), Elwen, and Tresider, in
Cornwall.
He was married to Joan Carminow, daughter of Sir Roger Carminow and
Joan Dinham, c1293 when he was only 5 years old. In 1302, William
Bottreux brought a Writ of Wardship against Roger Carminow to regain
possession of William, the brother and heir of John de Whalesboro,
presumably because he had suddenly became more valuable. Roger
replied to the writ, "William whilst your ward married our daughter."
Bottreux was apparently arguing the marriage wasn’t valid because
"William de Whalesboro was only 5 years old then, and under 14 now".
[2, 3, 4] That they remained married is confirmed by a fine in 1319
which names William De Whalebreus and Johanna his wife as default
remainder heirs of Oliver Carminow. [5, 6] In a fine of 10 May 1321,
Joan, wife of William de Walesbreu was called a sibling of Oliver de
Carminow and in another fine of 13 Oct 1333 she is called Joan, who
was the wife of William de Walesbreu. [7] As a result of this
marriage, the Whalesborough’s are said by the History of Trerose Manor
website to have acquired the manor of Trerose which had been a
Carminow manor; Joan’s father Sir Roger Carminow (d. 1308) began the
building of Trerose church and his monumental effigy can still be seen
in St. Mawgan. [8] However, the Whaleborough’s certainly had an
interest in Trerose as early as 1213 when it is part of the dower
Osemunda. [9]
He was of age on 21 Apr 1309 when Stephen de Bello Prato died holding
a 3 acre meadow of William de Whalesbreus in socage and by service of
rendering 1d. yearly. [10] On 12 March 1312, William de Whalesbrew
granted to John de Carmynow the manor of Udnow and the advowson of the
Church of St. Piran for the life of the said William. [11] Carminow
presented to St. Perran-Uthno on 11 Dec 1312 [12] and in Feb 1313
regranted the manor and advowson back to William de Whalesbury and
Johanna his wife. [13] William presented to the church of St. Mawgan-
in-Kerrier on 25 Dec 1317 and 31 Oct 1324. [14]
Sir William De Walesbreu died in 21 August 1328. [15] Tristram Risdon
says that "Willelmus Whalisburgh de Whalesburgh, knight, obitt 1328”
bore the arms “Gules, three bandlets argent on a bordure sable, nine
bezants.” [16]
“Joan, who was wife of William de Walesbrew” occurs in a suit in 1335.
[17] As Joan, relict of William de Whalesbreu, she presented to St.
Mawnan-in-Kerrier 23 Feb 1347 and 6 Nov 1348; her son Sir John de
Whalesbreu made the next presentation on 6 Aug 1349 and 3 April 1350.
She died after 1 March 1361/62 as she presented one last time at St.
Mawnan as Joan, relict of William de Whalesbreu. [18]
i. JOHN WHALESBOROUGH See next.
ii. ISABEL WHALESBOROUGH. Isabel married twice to 1st Henry De
Bodrugan and 2nd Henry Wilington. [19,20] Henry De Bodrugan in the
Bodrugan pedigrees is said to have married Isabel, daughter of William
De Whalesborough [21,22,23], while in the Wilington pedigrees Henry
Wilington is said to have married Isabel, daughter of John De
Whalesborough. [24,25,26,27] Given that is almost impossible that John
De Whalesborough born 1314-1316 had a grandson born c1342, it seems
reasonable that Isabel is a daughter of William and that the Wilington
pedigrees are in error. ‘The Bodrugans’ says she “presumably” married
the Henry De Wilington who was executed following Battle of
Boroughbridge in 1322, however this is an error due to a misreading of
‘Thomas Chiverton’s Book of the Dead.’ [19] So, Isabel m. 1st by 31
December 1324 Henry De Bodrugan son and heir of Sir Oto De Bodrugan
and Margaret Chambernoun. [27] He was born c1310 so only about 14
years old at the time. [28] He was the brother of Joan De Bodrugan
who married Isabel’s brother John. Henry died without issue on 15
October 1331, 5 weeks after his father and not even knowing his father
had died. [29,30] Isabel had an order for dower to be assigned on 10
March 1332/33. [31] She married 2nd Sir Henry De Wilington, son of
Henry De Wylyngton and Margery Trevill. He was born c1314 (age 13 in
1327) and died 23 May 1349. [32,33] Isabel survived her husband and
had assignment of dower on 20 August 1349. [34] She died 20 March
1363. [35]
iii. MARY WHALESBOROUGH. m. Thomas Chiverton, ancestor of the
Thomas Chiverton of Perran-uthno who owned ‘Thomas Chiverton’s Book of
Obits’ in 1599. [36]
1. Based on Ronny Bodine SGM Feb 25 1999 Whalesborough-Walesbreu of
Cornwall. http://tinyurl.com/y2bcneg
2. The Putnam Lineage, by Eben Putnam p. cxxii http://tinyurl.com/yfltvyl
3. Ronny Bodine citing Year Book of Edward I, A.D. 1302
4. Visitation of Cornwall 1620, ed. by JL Vivan p. 296 http://tinyurl.com/yl7979y
5. Parishes of St. Teath and Temple (in the History of the Deanery of
Trigg Minor series), by John MacLean p. 62 http://tinyurl.com/2d9643r
6. Cal. of Patent Rolls Ed. 1 vol. 3 p. 448 http://tinyurl.com/2e75tof
7. Ronny Bodine citing Cornwall Feet of Fines, no. 458 Cornwall Feet
of Fines http://tinyurl.com/39zr6fz
8. History of Trerose Manor website http://www.trerosemanor.co.uk/history.html
9. Regis Curia Rolls, vol. 7 (1213-1215) p. 21-22, 41-42 http://tinyurl.com/2g327ms
10. Cal. of IPM, vol. 5: no. 122 p. 55 http://tinyurl.com/2vecxmf
11. Parishes of St. Teath and Temple (Trigg Minor series), by John
MacLean p. 61 http://tinyurl.com/2d9643r
12. Reg. of Bishop Stapledon, by F.C. Hingeston-Randolph p. 257
http://tinyurl.com/2utx9h9
13. Parishes of St. Teath and Temple (Trigg Minor series), by John
MacLean p. 61 http://tinyurl.com/2d9643r
14. Reg.of Bishop Stapledon,by F.C. Hingeston-Randolph p. 255
http://tinyurl.com/2utx9h9
15. Hull, P. L., "Thomas Chiverton's Book of Obits," Devon & Cornwall
Notes & Queries 33:5 (Autumn 1975), p. 145
16. The note-book of Tristram Risdon, 1608-1628 p. 211 http://tinyurl.com/238tkx2
17. History of the deanery of Trigg Minor, by John MacLean vol. 2, p.
358 http://tinyurl.com/28yubln
18. Reg. of Bishop Grandisson, p. 1365, 1368, 1396, 1406, 1477, 1478
http://tinyurl.com/y6jz4eh
19. Hull, P. L., "Thomas Chiverton's Book of Obits," Devon & Cornwall
Notes & Queries 33:6 (Spring 1976), p. 190.
20. Whetter, James, The Bodrugans: A Study of a Cornish Medieval
Knightly Family (Cornwall: Lyfrow Trelyspen, 1995.), pp. 10.
21. Family of Cole by James Edwin-Cole p. 6 http://tinyurl.com/288gwff
22. Peerage of Ireland by John Lodge http://tinyurl.com/2f7hl3v
23. Miscellanea Genealogica et Heraldica, vol II by J.J. Howard p.
235 http://tinyurl.com/2g8r6qb
24. History of the Deanery of Trigg Minor, Cornwall. (1874) by John
MacLean p. 384 http://tinyurl.com/yyqgux5
25. Complete Peerage by GE Cokayne. 4:97
26. Plantagenet Ancestry, by Douglas Richardson (2004), p. 197
27.
28. Whetter, James, The Bodrugans: A Study of a Cornish Medieval
Knightly Family (Cornwall: Lyfrow Trelyspen, 1995.), p. 42
29. Hull, P. L., "Thomas Chiverton's Book of Obits," Devon & Cornwall
Notes & Queries 33:6 (Spring 1976), p. 190.
30. Cal. of IPM vol. VII p. 278 (no. 386 Henry De Bodrigan, see also
his father p. 275 no. 385 Otto De Bodrigan) Henry http://tinyurl.com/3yrrzjy
Otto http://tinyurl.com/39abbe6
31. Cal. of Close Rolls, (1330-1333) Isabel De Bodrigan dower.
http://tinyurl.com/2uo6ts9
32. Parochial and Family History of the deanery of Trigg Minor by John
MacLean, 1874 p. 384 Willington http://tinyurl.com/yyqgux5
33. Cal. of IPM vol. 9 p. 195 no. 218 Henry De Wylyngton http://tinyurl.com/2al384x
34. Cal. of Close Rolls vol. 9 (1349-1354) p. 105 Isabel dower
http://tinyurl.com/24dm3zz
35. Hull, P. L., "Thomas Chiverton's Book of Obits," Devon & Cornwall
Notes & Queries 33:6 (Spring 1976), p. 190.
36. Hull, P. L., "Thomas Chiverton's Book of Obits," Devon & Cornwall
Notes & Queries 33:8 p.280.
Cochoit
the son of William De Whalesborough who died 21 August 1328.
Sir JOHN De WALESBREU. [1] Born 1314-1316 as he was still a minor
when John, Earl of Cornwall presented on 2 May 1335 to St. Mawgan-in-
Kerrier, by reason of him having custody of the lands of John de
Walesbreu, a minor [2], but in the 1337 Caption of Seisin of the Duchy
of Cornwall, John de Walesbreu was holding 3 knights fees in an
illegible location and 1 fee in Hutno, for which he is required to do
castle guard and all other services in proportion to his holdings.
[3] Johannes de Whalisbreu, miles, was Knight of the Shire for
Cornwall at the Parliaments of 7 June 1344 and 23 Sep 1353. [4] In
1346, Johanne de Walesbreu held Laimaylwen and Lancarf "which his
father William formerly held" (quod Willelmus pater suus prius
tenuit). [5] His mother presented her nephew John De Bodrugan to St.
Mawnan on 23 Feb. 1347/48 as ‘Joan relict of William De Whalesbreu”
and again to St. Mawnan on 6 Nov. 1348 and 1 Mar. 1361/62. [6, 7] He
presented to the church of St. Perran-Uthno on 17 July 1348, 19 June
1349, 10 Jan 1361/2 and to St. Mawnan-in-Kerrier 6 Aug 1349, 3 Apr
1350, 7 Dec 1361, and 4 Mar 1361/2; presentations on 11 Oct. 1372 and
22 June 1381 would have been by his son John [8,9].
Sir John de Walesbreu was married to Joan De Bodrugan, daughter of Sir
Otes De Bodrugan by Margaret Chambernoun. [10] Family connections
presented as rectors to various churches include her nephew John De
Bodrugan, a Sir Reginald Beauchamp, a Roger Beauchamp and a Sir Thomas
De Carmynou. Joan died 5 June 1349. [11]
Sir John De Whalesbreu died 26 April 1362. [12] Tristram Risdon says
that John De Whalesburgh obitt 1362 used the arms ‘Gules three
bendlets azure, on a bordure sable nine bezants’ (same as the William
who died 1328). [13]
i. JOHN WHALESBOROUGH. See following.
ii. MARGARET WHALESBOROUGH m. Sir John II De Beauchamp of Ryme
Intrinseca, co. Dorset. [14] He died 8 April 1349. [15] It should be
noted that the Cal. of IPM incorrectly combines his IPM with his son
John who died less than a month later on 4 May 1349. [16] In the
Challons pedigree she is called Margaret daughter of John
Whalesborough. [17] By dates she would have to be the daughter of
this John Whalesborough, and not of John his son who wasn’t born until
1346; this is also apparently further confirmed by unpublished
manuscripts at the British Library in London. [18] As noted, the
oldest son of John De Beauchamp was his son John who died before the
IPM of the father could be taken; the next son was Thomas who was
found to be the heir in the IPMs of both John the father, and of John
his son. Richard Branscombe was granted the wardship of the lands of
Thomas De Beauchamp on 10 April 1350.
Margaret remarried this Richard Branscombe by 23 October 1353 when the
wardship was confirmed to Richard de Brankescombe, and Margaret his
wife. [19] That this is the same Margaret is confirmed by her
assignment of dower on 10 January 1355 (this writ refers to a previous
king’s writ on 20 November 1353). [20]
1. Based on Ronny Bodine SGM Feb 25 1999 Whalesborough-Walesbreu of
Cornwall. Ronny Bodine leaves out a generation here by combining the
John Whalesborough d. 1362 and John Whalesborough d. 1382.
http://tinyurl.com/y2bcneg
2. Reg. of Bishop Grandisson, p. 1309 http://tinyurl.com/yhy826k
3. Ronny Bodine SGM post citing Devon and Cornwall Record Society (new
series 17:6-7)
4. Ronny Bodine SGM post citing Returns of Members of Parliament p.
138, 153
5. Feudal Aids, 1: 214 http://tinyurl.com/yyz5zkw
6. Reg. of Bishop Grandisson, p. 1365, 1368, 1477 http://tinyurl.com/y6jz4eh
7. Whetter, James, The Bodrugans: A Study of a Cornish Medieval
Knightly Family (Cornwall: Lyfrow Trelyspen, 1995.), p. 76
8. Reg. of Bishop Grandisson, p. 1367, 1392, 1472, 1396, 1406, 1470,
1478 http://tinyurl.com/yhy826k
9. Reg. of Bishop Brantyngham p. 22, 70 http://tinyurl.com/y7fo6fb
http://tinyurl.com/yyr8b3s
10. Whetter, James, The Bodrugans: A Study of a Cornish Medieval
Knightly Family (Cornwall: Lyfrow Trelyspen, 1995.), p. 10, 42, 56, 76
11. Hull, P. L., "Thomas Chiverton's Book of Obits," Devon & Cornwall
Notes & Queries 33:5 (Autumn 1975), p. 146.
12. Hull, P. L., "Thomas Chiverton's Book of Obits," Devon & Cornwall
Notes & Queries 33:5 (Autumn 1975), p. 146.
13. The note-book of Tristram Risdon, 1608-1628 p. 211, 214
http://tinyurl.com/y3qpl5u
14. Ancestral Roots by Frederick Lewis Weis. Seventh Edition, 1999,
Line 246E. http://tinyurl.com/y7o6dxs
15. Cal of IPM IX p. 262-263. No. 288 IPM of John Beauchamp.
http://tinyurl.com/y6d4mv2
16. Douglas Richardson in SGM thread ‘Elizabeth Beauchamp m. William
Fortescue’ (25 May 2010) http://tinyurl.com/2ex8deh
17. Visitation of Somerset, Challons p. 99 http://tinyurl.com/y3mcszr
18. Douglas Richardson in SGM thread ‘Elizabeth Beauchamp m. William
Fortescue’ (25 May 2010) citing Additional Manuscripts 28649, folio
518 http://tinyurl.com/2ex8deh
19. Cal. of Fine Rolls VI p. 229, 260, 381 http://tinyurl.com/yhuuvcz
20. CCR X p. 242-243 Assignment of dower and remarriage http://tinyurl.com/y2e6qwu
Sir JOHN De WALESBREU. [1] of Udnou [Perran-Uthno], Walesbreuwe
[Walesborough], Langkerf [Lancarffe], Treros [Trerose], Lamelwen
[Lamellion], Elwen, Tresider, in Cornwall and Berienherbard
[Berrynarbor], co. Devon, son of Sir John De Walesbreu by Joan De
Bodrugan, was born 6 July 1346. [2]
Sir Roger Beauchamp presented at Perran-Uthno 11 Oct. 1372 by reason
of him being enfoeffed in the lands of John De Walesbreu. [3] He had
a license for an oratory at Walesbrew in Marhamchurch in 1374. [4] In
the Fine Rolls, he occurs as a collector of a tax in 1377 and as
escheator for Cornwall on 20 January 1381 [5] On 22 June 1381 he
presented to St. Mawnan following the resignation of Reginald
Beauchamp; presumably the same Reginald Beauchamp he enfoeffed his
lands to. [6] This Sir John Walesborough appears on the Roll of
Edward III bearing arms "gules, three bandlets a bordure engrailed
sable." [7] This differs slightly from his father and grandfather who
had a border with 9 bezants.
Sir John de Walesbrewe died “in parts beyond seas, day not known”
before 20 January 1381/82 when a writ of diem clausit extremum was
issued. His IPM showed he held Udnou, Walesbreuwe, Langkerf, Treros,
Lamelwen, Elwen, Tresider, in Cornwall and Berienherbard, co. Devon.
He had, however, granted all of them except Tresider and Berienherbard
to Reynold Beauchamp and others who had in turn granted them back to
his wife Margaret for the term of her life. She had by the time of
the IPM on 5 March 1381/82 remarried to Philip Trethosa. His heir was
his son John age 15. [8] A subsequent inquisition was held 6 July
1382 regarding the manors of Udnou, Walesbrewe, Treros, Langkerf,
Lamelwen and Elwen and their advowsons. [9] Apparently, the
regranting of lands back to Margaret for her life was with the
provision that she should remain unmarried. However, since Margaret
had remarried to Philip Trethosa there was a dispute over the lands
and wardship of the heir. On 28 November 1382, Margaret and Philip
Trethosa argued that there was no condition that she not marry and
were asking for the lands back; also noted on this date was that the
heir was John age 13. [11] They apparently failed as the King sold
2/3 of the land and the marriage of the heir to William Botreaux for
200 marks. [12]
i. John Whalesborough. See next.
ii. Benedict Whalesborough, presumed son of Sir John De
Whalesborough. He was installed as the rector at St. Mawnan on the
presentation of his father-in-law Philip Trethose on 7 April 1391.
[12] He was subsequently vicar of Poundstock and died before 25 march
1417 when Richard Trevelyan was installed there by reason of the death
of Benedict Whalesbrow. [13]
1. Based on Ronny Bodine SGM Feb 25 1999 Whalesborough-Walesbreu of
Cornwall. Ronny Bodine leaves out a generation here by combining the
John Whalesborough d. 1362 and John Whalesborough d. 1382.
http://tinyurl.com/y2bcneg
2. Hull, P.L., Devon & Cornwall Notes & Queries 33:4, p. 100.
http://tinyurl.com/y343eeo
3. Reg. of Bishop Brantyngham p. 22 http://tinyurl.com/y7fo6fb
4. Reg. of Bishop Brantyngham p. 340 http://tinyurl.com/y27lmcu
5. Cal. Fine Rolls vol. 9 (1377-1383) p. 54, 302 http://tinyurl.com/yl7yn4u
6. Reg. of Bishop Brantyngham p. 70 http://tinyurl.com/yyr8b3s
7. Some feudal coats of arms and others by Joseph Foster p. 201
http://tinyurl.com/y4rnfsd
8. Cal. of IPM vol. 15, 1970 by Claire Noble (snippet view only) p.
258-259 http://tinyurl.com/y37hjgx
9. Cal. of Patent Rolls, (1381-1385) p. 194 http://tinyurl.com/y7qreqq
10. Cal. Fine Rolls vol. 9 (1377-1383) p. 342, 369 http://tinyurl.com/yl7yn4u
11. Cal. Fine Rolls vol. 10 (1383-1391) p. 32, 40 http://tinyurl.com/yyu7etd
12. Reg. of Bishop Brantyngham p. 108 http://tinyurl.com/y8yf5r6
13. Reg. of Bishop Stafford p. 196 http://tinyurl.com/y23dar7
JOHN WHALESBOROUGH. [1] Born c1369, his father’s IPM in March
1381/82 says he was 15 years old, however an entry in the fine rolls
regarding the dispute over his father’s lands states he was only 13.
[2,3] He apparently didn’t make proof of his age until June 1391
supporting the later birthdate. [4] His wardship was first committed
to his mother and her 2nd husband, then passed in June 1383 to
William, Lord Botreaux, with whom they remained until he proved his
age in June 1391 and gained control over his inheritance. He has a
license to celebrate at Lamorran 20 December 1391. [5] He was
Commissioner of Array for Cornwall in 1399, 1403 and 1405; Knight of
the Shire for Cornwall in 1402; Justice of the Peace 1403-1407. [6]
He married, by 1399, Joan, daughter of Sir John Raleigh, of
Nettlecombe, Somersetshire. On the death of her brother Simon, the
estates of Raleigh of Nettlecombe would pass to her son Thomas, and
then to his daughter Elizabeth. [7,8,9] She married 2ndly, Sir
Thomas Pomeroy, and died testate in 1435/6; she is buried in Grey
Friars in London. [10,11]
He died 10 Jan 1418 with writ to take his lands into the King’s hands
on 17 January. [12,13] An IPM was taken which I have not yet seen but
a subsequent Close Roll writ shows him holding land at Whalesborough,
Uthno, Treroos, Byryherber, Raghtre, Skywyek, Boskarne, Trewarueneth,
Lamelwyn, Lantyrek, Chynans, Treseder and Lancarf. [14]
i. John Whalesborough, born 1405. d.s.p. His brother Thomas
was his heir.
ii. Robert Whalesborough.
iii. William Whalesborough.
iv. Thomas Whalesborough. See next.
v. Alice Whalesborough d. 1471, m. John Fitz Rafe. [11,15]
vi. Esmania Whalesborough, m. Thomas, 7th Lord Scales. [16]
vii. Anne Whalesborough, d. testate 1 March 1487 m. 1st 1 May
1423 Sir William Moleyns (d. 1429). m. 2nd Edmund Hampdens
[17,18,19,20] (Note: As a correction to Leo’s Genealogics, Anne had
two daughters, neither of whom was the Catherine Moleyns who married
John Howard, Duke of Norfolk. Catherine is actually the daughter of
William Moleyns d. 1425 and sister of the William who married Anne
Whalesborough. [21,22,23])
viii. Elizabeth Whalesborough, m. John Hampden. [24, 25]
1. Based on Ronny Bodine SGM Feb 25 1999 Whalesborough-Walesbreu of
Cornwall. http://tinyurl.com/y2bcneg
2. Cal. of IPM vol. 15, 1970 by Claire Noble (snippet view only) p.
258-259 http://tinyurl.com/y37hjgx
3. Cal. Fine Rolls vol. 9 (1377-1383) p. 342 http://tinyurl.com/yl7yn4u
4. Ronny Bodine SGM Feb 25 1999 Whalesborough-Walesbreu of Cornwall.
http://tinyurl.com/y2bcneg
5. Reg. of Bishop Brantyngham p. 739 http://tinyurl.com/y56szd8
6. Ronny Bodine SGM citing History of Parliament, 1386-1421, 4: 822
7. Nettlecombe Court: The Trevelyans and other Residents of the Court,
by R.J.E. Bush (Field Studies vol. 3 p. 275-287) online PDF copy
http://tinyurl.com/2bgrb49
8. Collectanea Topographica Et Genealogica p. 392 http://tinyurl.com/329oeee
9. Visitation of Somerset, 1531&1573. Raleigh p. 68 http://tinyurl.com/2bxmj3n
10. Index of wills proved in the Prerogative court of Canterbury p.
421 http://tinyurl.com/2wxeznn
11. Grey Friars of London, footnote p. 97 http://tinyurl.com/33ubcxl
12. Ronny Bodine SGM citing CIPM, 20: no. 298; History of Parliament,
1386-1421, 4: 822 . http://tinyurl.com/y2bcneg
13. Cal. of Fine Rolls vol. 14 (1413-1419) p. 194 http://tinyurl.com/y3trc9e
14. Calendar of Close Rolls, Henry V: volume 1: 1413-1419 http://tinyurl.com/y2ro3gm
http://tinyurl.com/y647ecj
15. Visitation of Norffolk, pub. 1891 p. 71 http://tinyurl.com/29685xz
16. Complete Peerage, by GE Cokayne, XI:506
17. Grey Friars of London, p. 96 http://tinyurl.com/33ubcxl
18. Paston letters http://tinyurl.com/2uem7t8
19. Magna Carta Ancestry, Richardson p. 444, 575
20. CPR Henry VI IV p. 415 http://tinyurl.com/2udyqqe
21. CPR Henry VI II, p. 156 http://tinyurl.com/27hvuqv Eleanor
daughter and heir
22. CPR Henry VI III p. 355 http://tinyurl.com/38wkrqs Eleanor
daughter and heir
23. Magna Carta Ancestry, Richardson p. 444, 575
24. Stonor Letters vol. 1 p. xix http://tinyurl.com/2c9hsqz
25. Magna Carta Ancestry, Richardson p. 401, 909
THOMAS WHALESBOROUGH. Last male heir of Whalesborough, on his death
the properties of the family of Whalesborough and those of Raleigh of
Nettlecombe passed to the Trevelyan family. Following the death of
his father, the wardship of his lands and marriage were granted to Sir
William Bowes during his minority. [1] He was subsequently married to
Matilda (or Maud) Bowes, daughter of Sir William Bowes.
He was sheriff of Cornwall in 1436, 1441, and 1453 [2] Appointed for
life as master of the game of the king’s deer in Cornwall in 1443.
[3]
He died in 1482, and was survived by his wife Maud. [4]
i. Elizabeth. Daughter and sole heir of Thomas Whalesborough. She
married in 1453 John Trevelyan of Trevelyan, co. Cornwall [5,6,7,8]
Much of her estates were seized by the Duke of Suffolk and over 25
years of legal troubles ensued before they were restored in 1488. [9]
She died 1480. He died on 20 June 1492.
1. Cal. of Patent Rolls Henry V vol. 2 (1416-1422) p. 217
http://tinyurl.com/252xs29
2. Parochial History of Cornwall vol. 4, by Joseph Polsue p. 123
http://tinyurl.com/2et4p9t
3. Cal. of Patent Rolls Henry VI vol. 4 (1441-1446) p. 170
http://tinyurl.com/2vx5oc6
4. Trevelyan Papers p. 86 http://tinyurl.com/28naloo
5. Proceedings of the Somersetshire Archaeological and Natural ...,
Volumes 53-54 p. 79 http://tinyurl.com/2dz6243
6. Trevelyan Papers p. 37 marriage settlement http://tinyurl.com/2cuopjx
7. History of Parliament, 1439-1509. John Trevelyn p. 873-874
http://tinyurl.com/2cjkup4
8. Nettlecombe Court: The Trevelyans and other Residents of the Court,
by R.J.E. Bush (Field Studies vol. 3 p. 275-287) online PDF copy
http://tinyurl.com/2bgrb49
9. Cartæ et alia munimenta quæ ad dominium de Glamorgan pertinent ...:
441-1300 by Llandaff (Diocese) p. 562 http://tinyurl.com/2aszudb
Cochoit
earlier this year his ‘Continuing Yarde Ascent of Sarah Ferguson,
Duchess of York’ The posts concerned the ancestry of Audley Grey.
His wife was Margaret Trevelyan of Nettlecombe and her descent from
John Trevelyan and Elizabeth Whalesborough goes:
http://tinyurl.com/2cr27ou
John Trevelyan of Nettlecomb (from his wife) = Elizabeth Whalesborough
(dau. and sole heir of Thomas Whalesborough)
Sir John Trevelyan = Jane Hallwell (dau. of Sir John Hallwell)
Sir John Trevelyan = Avice Cockworthy (dau. and sole heir of
Nicholas Cockworthy of Yarnscomb, co. Devon)
John Trevelyan = Maud Hill (dau. of Giles Hill)
John Trevelyan = Wilmot Harris (dau. of John Harris esq.)
John Trevelyan = Urith Chichester (dau. of John Chichester
of Raleigh, co. Devon)
John Trevelyan = Margaret Lutterell (dau. of George
Lutterell)
George Trevelyan = Margaret Stroud (or Strode)
Margaret Trevelyan = Audley Grey
Marriage license 16 March 1665/66 – “of Nettlecombe” she was age 22
(so born c. 1643-44) and both of her parents are dead, this matches
her presumed parents as Margaret Stroud d. 24 December 1647 and George
Trevelyan d. 1653. The MI for Margaret Stroud lists her 8 sons and 3
daughters including Margaret. Her brother, George Trevelyan, in a
letter written in August 1665 refers to his “sister Grey.”
Cochoit
his database. I would correct as follows:
Ann Whalesborough dau. of John Whalesborough
http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00109296&tree=LEO
(She is the daughter of John III De Whalesborough (born c 1369 and
died 10 Jan 1418) by Joan Raleigh. Anne married Sir William Moleyns
who died 8 May 1429. A matter of some controversy on SGM, Leo gives
her a daughter Katherine – this Katherine should be a daughter of
William Moleyns who died 8 June 1425.)
Elizabeth Whalesborough dau. of John Whalesborough
http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00330839&tree=LEO
(She is another daughter of John III De Whalesborough (born c 1369 and
died 10 Jan 1418) by Joan Raleigh.)
Esmania Whalesburgh dau. of NN Whalesburgh
http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00326600&tree=LEO
(She is another daughter of John III De Whalesborough (born c 1369 and
died 10 Jan 1418) by Joan Raleigh.)
Margaret Whalesburgh da. of John Whalesburgh
http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00411617&tree=LEO
(She is the daughter of John I De Whalesborough (born 1314-1316, and
died 26 April 1362) by Joan De Bodrugan)
Isabel Walesbreu dau. of John De Walesbreu (William - Marcus –
William)
http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00561625&tree=LEO
(Leo is following the Wilington pedigrees which are in error. She is
the daughter of Sir William De Walesbreu who died in 21 August 1328 by
Joan Carminow, and sister of the John he gives as father.)
John Trevelyan, of Nettlecombe
http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00346561&tree=LEO
(He married Urith Chichester. His descent from Elizabeth
Whalesborough:
John Trevelyan of Nettlecomb (from his wife) = Elizabeth Whalesborough
(dau. and sole heir of Thomas Whalesborough)
Sir John Trevelyan = Jane Hallwell (dau. of Sir John Hallwell)
Sir John Trevelyan = Avice Cockworthy (dau. and sole heir of
Nicholas Cockworthy of Yarnscomb, co. Devon)
John Trevelyan = Maud Hill (dau. of Giles Hill)
John Trevelyan = Wilmot Harris (dau. of John Harris esq.)
John Trevelyan = Urith Chichester (dau. of John Chichester
of Raleigh, co. Devon)
Joe
Douglas Richardson
Thank you for the great posts on the Whalesborough family of
Cornwall. Much appreciated.
John Whalesborough (died 1418) who married Joan Raleigh held the
social rank of esquire as indicated by the following record concerning
the burial of his daughter, Anne, Lady Moleyns:
Kingsford, Grey Friars of London (1915): 96 (“Et ad sinistram eorum
jacet sub lapide ad murum chori venerabilis domina, domina Anna
Molens, vxor domini Willelmi domini de Molens, et filia Johannis
Whalysburgh, armigeri, de comitatu Cornubie: que obiit prima die
mensis Marcii, A° dni. 1487.”)
The above item may be viewed at the following weblink:
Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah
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