Re: Edward Sutton, and Other Suttons in Leek, Ormskirk, Additions to Scarisbrick

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Since I posted below I have found earlier dates on my PETER STANLEY and his first wife ELIZABETH SCARISBRICK daughter of JAMES SCARSBRICK. I descend from PETER STANLEY and second wife, CICELEY TARLETON.

.http://archive.org/stream/cu31924088434554#page/n365/mode/2up/search/sutton

The Victoria History of of the county of Lancaster.

I am finding a RICHARD de SUTTON in 1381 with ROGER de BRADSHAGH . They are connected with SIR HENRY de SCARISBRICK .. this leads into ALICE marrying WILLIAM MAINWARING. Later in 1555/6 WILLIAM BRADSHAGH transferred Aughton meadow to my PETER STANLEY of Bickerstaffe.

There is also a ROGER SUTTON and GILBERT SUTTON that goes into the family of WILLIAM GORSUCH. THOMAS GORSUCH held lands in Prescot I wonder if this hooks u with the SUTTON records below of ROBERT SUTTON that has records in St. Peter and St. Paul's church in Ormskirk. ?. Some of this appears to go into the STANLEY's of CROSS HALL also.

History of Scarisbrick, British History Online

.http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=41332

I am wondering if this SUTTON line is my EDWARD SUTTON that married ANNE STANLEY, daughter of PETER STANLEY and second wife CICELY TARLETON but who was married to ELIZABETH SCARSBRICK first. Thus Moor Hall and his other lands.

"The family acquired lands in North Meols, Lathom,and Huyton, about this time. GILBERT de GORSUCH succeeded about 1347; (fn. 126) he is described as 'son of Adam son of Walter.' Gilbert had no son, and settled estates in Longton upon his younger daughter Maud, wife ofWilliam de Hurleton; the latter also had no son, and Gorsuch and other lands went to RICHARD de SUTTON,who had married the elder daughter Joan. (fn. 127) In 1390 Gilbert de Gorsuch had made a settlement or testament providing for the succession to a portion of hislands; (fn. 128) and other deeds preserved by Kuerden showthat the main portion was settled on RICHARD de SUTTON and JOAN his wife, with the remainder toWilliam de Hurleton and Maud his wife. (fn. 129) "

"For more than a century the Suttons (fn. 130) remained in possession, and then the estate returned to the Gorsuch family, for in 1515 a marriage was arranged between MARGARET daughter of ROGER SUTTON (son of John, the son of Gilbert) and Thomas son and heir of William Gorsuch. (fn. 131) GILBERT SUTTON died on 20 April, 1518, and the inquisition taken after his death shows a considerable estate, the heir being his infant great-granddaughter, already espoused to THOMAS GORSUCH (fn. 132) Thomas Gorsuch was succeeded about 1560 (fn. 133) by his son JAMES, who in 1577secured from EDWARD SCARISBRICK a right of way from Gorsuch to Carr Cross in Snape, to Snape Green, thence to Wood moss,

From: 'Townships: Scarisbrick', A History of the County of Lancaster: Volume 3 (1907), pp. 265-276. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=41332 Date accessed: 22 March 2013.

Marianne Dillow

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This is my grandparents Edward Sutton and Anne Stanley and extra Sutton records found at Ormskirk.

Marriage: 14 May 1576 St Peter and St Paul, Ormskirk, Lancashire, England

St. Peter and St. Paul,Ormskirk, Lancashire, England:

Edw. Sutton, Gent. -
Anne Stanley, Gent. -
Register: Marriages 1557 - 1626, Page 205, Entry 10
Source: LDS Film 1849663 nne Stanley:

This Anne's baptism:
Baptism: 21 Dec 1561 St Peter and St Paul, Ormskirk, Lancashire, England
Anne Stanley - Register: Baptisms 1557 - 1626, Page 9, Entry 4
Source: LDS Film 1849663


This is my grandfather Peter Stanley that married (2) CiceleyTarleton.. Anne's parents:.. Peter Stanley''s burial:

Burial: 24 Jul 1592 St Peter and St Paul, Ormskirk, Lancashire, England
Peeter Stanley -
Abode: Bycarstaff
Notes: bur in the chancell
Register: Burials 1557 - 1625/6, Page 348, Entry 9
Source: LDS Film 1849663

The rest of these are Sutton records at St. Paul and Peter at Ormskirk, Lancashire England. I don't know who they all are but there was William, Edmund and Thomas Sutton in records with my Edward Sutton and Anne Stanley below. I have no idea who Robert Sutton is either.

Baptism: 3 Jun 1764 St Peter and St Paul, Ormskirk, Lancashire, England
WILLIAM SUTTON - Son of ROBERT SUTTON & Elizabeth
Abode: Aughton
Register: Baptisms 1743 - 1770, Page 62, Entry 2
Source: LDS Film 1849663

Baptism: 18 Oct 1761 St Peter and St Paul, Ormskirk, Lancashire, England
Thomas Sutton - Son of Robert Sutton & Elizabeth
Abode: Orms[kirk]
Register: Baptisms 1743 - 1770, Page 54, Entry 22
Source: LDS Film 1849663

Baptism: 14 Apr 1574 St Peter and St Paul, Ormskirk, Lancashire, England
Tho. Sutton - Son of Ja. Sutton
Register: Baptisms 1557 - 1626, Page 39, Entry 1
Source: LDS Film 1849663


Baptism: 21 Feb 1574/5 St Peter and St Paul, Ormskirk, Lancashire, England
ROBERT SUTTON - Son of THO. SUTTON
Register: Baptisms 1557 - 1626, Page 41, Entry 1
Source: LDS Film 1849663


Baptism: 11 Apr 1593 St Peter and St Paul, Ormskirk, Lancashire, England
RICHARD SUTTON - Son of WILL SUTTON
Register: Baptisms 1557 - 1626, Page 86, Entry 1
Source: LDS Film 1849663


Baptism: 21 Sep 1582 St Peter and St Paul, Ormskirk, Lancashire, England
Margerie Sutton - Daughter of Tho. Sutton
Register: Baptisms 1557 - 1626, Page 59, Entry 9
Source: LDS Film 1849663

Baptism: 20 Apr 1577 St Peter and St Paul, Ormskirk, Lancashire, England
George Sutton -
Register: Baptisms 1557 - 1626, Page 45, Entry 30
Source: LDS Film 1849663

Baptism: 13 May 1579 St Peter and St Paul, Ormskirk, Lancashire, England
John Sutton - Son of Tho. Sutton
Register: Baptisms 1557 - 1626, Page 50, Entry 27
Source: LDS Film 1849663

Burial: 30 Sep 1593 St Peter and St Paul, Ormskirk, Lancashire, England
Jaine Sutton, Widow -
Register: Burials 1557 - 1625/6, Page 351, Entry 22
Source: LDS Film 1849663

Burial: 24 Oct 1620 St Peter and St Paul, Ormskirk, Lancashire, England
Jane Sutton - Wife of Willm Sutton
Register: Burials 1557 - 1625/6, Page 418, Entry 13
Source: LDS Film 1849663

Burial: 8 Jan 1557/8 St Peter and St Paul, Ormskirk, Lancashire, England
Tho. Sutton -
Notes: in ecclia
Register: Burials 1557 - 1625/6, Page 269, Entry 26
Source: LDS Film 1849663

Burial: 4 Aug 1598 St Peter and St Paul, Ormskirk, Lancashire, England
Tho. Sutton -
Notes: in ecclia
Register: Burials 1557 - 1625/6, Page 366, Entry 16
Source: LDS Film 1849663

PETER STANLEY was the founder of the STANLEYS of MOOR HALL near Aughton in Lancashire, England.

" Praye ye the good estate of PETER STANLEY SEQIR and CECELY his wif with their children who caused this work to be made in the yere of our Lord God a thousand CCCCCVI.
So runs the inscription over the doorway on the south front Moor Hall, the most interesting and historical residence that we possess in Aughton."

PETER STANLEY was the founder of the STANLEYS of MOOR HALL near Aughton in Lancashire, England. He was the second son of SIR WILLIAM STANLEY, KNT. of HOOTON in the Wirral of Cheshire. by ANN HARRINGTON. On 26 May 1528 his father granted him lands at Little Stourton and Great Stourton in Cheshire. He married ELIZABETH, the daughter of JAMES SCARISBRICK, by MARGARET, the only daughter of THOMAS ATHERSTONE of Bickerstaffe, aand after his marriage he acquired MOOR HALL and its lands in 1533, when the reversion was conveyed to him by WILLIAM BRADSHAUGH. He had a daughter MARGARET by his first marriage who married HENRY STANLEY 26 Sep 1653., son of SIR JAMES STANLEY of Cross Hall.l. ELIZABETH died in 1557 and was buried at Ormskirk.


On 21 April 1559, PETER married secondly to CECILY, daughter of RICHARD TARLETON of Walton. (this researcher's grandparents.) Over the doorway of the present MOOR HALL, there is an inscription, asking for prayers for PETER STANLEY and CECILY his wife, who caused the work to be made.

" He was Standard Bearer at the funeral of EDWARD, Third Earl of Derby, who had bequeathed his body to be buried in the Parish Church of Ormskirk, and a Chapel to be erected. The obsequies took place on the 4th December, 1572, and were accompanied with the most lavish expense and magnificence. PETER STANLEY was fourth in the order of procession, and is described as " An Esquire bearing the Standard, with his hood on his Head," and Horse trapped to the Ground, garnished, with a Shaffron" Escutcheons of Buckram Metal, on each side two "PETER STANLEY."

At the Reformation , he adhered to the Old Faith, and during the years of prosecution, he gave shelter to Catholic priests, who continued to say Mas in the private chapel of MOOR HALL. PETER was required in 1584 to provide a light horseman accountered at his expense for the Queen's service in Ireland (or pay a fine of L20)

" His will was proved 7th August , 1592 (published in Chetham Socy.'s vol 51),t." PETER died and was buried 24 july 1592 at Ormskirk, styled óf Bickerstaffe.'He held seven messauges, lands and meadows at Bickerstaffe, Aughton, Ormskirk and Skelmersdale, also lands at Netherton and Rainford, and a house and land in Upletherland óf the Queen by the yearly rent of 6 pence.'

CICELY died before him in 1658 and was buried 28 Nov at Ormskirk.

History of the Ancient Parish of Leek

http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=F4EKAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA167&lpg=PA167&dq=history+of+rushton+spencer&source=bl&ots=3JsQ3bUzuG&sig=YICzp4ea-2lKf43fFLbGS-BRrPE&hl=en&sa=X&ei=hdhHUbOAGISF2QXlg4CIDw&ved=0CEYQ6AEwBDgU#v=onepage&q=history%20of%20rushton%20spencer&f=false

1599 Leek, WM. SUTTON, Ph. Trafford, Wm. Thorley, John Jodrell, Tho. Goodfellow, Tho. Doxsey, Tho, Jollie, Kath. Nickson, John Rothwell, , etc, Soma L6

Leeke 1600

Thomas Goodfellow, Wm. Adderly, Phil Trafford, Wm. Thorley, John Joderell, Thos. Jolly, Katherine Nickson, John Bothell, EDW. SUTTON, (all pro terris) Gardiner, Gibson, Knight, Bothe, Wm., gent.

Hugh de Spencer held Rushton Spencer 16 July 1321.. granted to Roger Swinnerton,.. 1400 Maude to her husband John Savage of Clifton,Knighthood Agincourt 25 Oct 1415.

>From documents in the hands of George Locket of HALL-HOUSE (an estate possession by la Spencer, .Savage.. SUTTON.. EARDLEY.. Wilmot, and Arnett families.)

ROBERT SUTTON buried 5 April 1588.
Rushton Spencer 6 &7 Edward VI th.
Matthew Bode & THOMAS SUTTON & Pears Goodfellow... mentions Hug Bridge.

I have nothing earlier on Sutton before these records.

Records already posted.WILLIAM SUTTON, EDMUND SUTTON and THOMAS SUTTON are in my records presented here.

Collections for a History of Staffordshire , Vol. III, New Series; Final Concords Temp James I. 9.

"On the Morrow of All Souls. 5 James I. Between JOHN DAVENPORT, armiger, EDWARD COTTON, armiger, EDMUND SUTTON, gentleman, and WILLIAM SUTTON, complainants, and EDWARD SUTTON, gentleman, and ANNE , his wife, and JOHN EARDLEY, gentleman, and ALICE, his wife, deforciants of a messuage, a garden, 100 acres of land, 30 acres of meadow, 100 acres of pasture, and 20 acres of wood in Rushton Spencer, Ravenscloug-he, and Clowdewood. The deforciants remitted all right to the complainants and to the heirs of JOHN DAVENPORT, for which the complainants gave them 120.From "Gleanings Towards the Annals of Aughton, Near Ormskirk by G. Coulthard."

From: 'Leek: Rushton Spencer', A History of the County of Stafford: Volume 7: Leek and the Moorlands (1996), pp. 223-229. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=22920 .

"Two popish recusants were returned in 1607, ANNE, wife of EDWARD SUTTON of Hall House, and their daughter ALICE EARDLEY. Alice was returned with her husband JOHN in 1616, when three other women, all labourers' wives, were also returned. ANNE SUTTON was again returned in 1635, along with another woman, and ALICE EARDLEY in 1641. "

Source: A Calendar of Lancashire and Cheshire Exchuquer Deposition By Commission From 1558-1712 by Caroline Fishback

9th James L, 1611. Hil., No. 5. Sir RANDALL MAINWARING, THOS. JOLLY versus WM. SUTTON, THOS. SUTTON. Manor of Rushton James by Commission, Cheshire. 117 (Stafford). Meets and bounds. The manor of Bugtawton (Chester), and the lordships of Clowdwood and Rushton Spencer (Stafford). A waste or moor called the Clowde, in the manor of Bugtawton. Meets and bounds. Meets and bounds of the counties of Chester and Stafford. Do the manors of Congleton, Bugtawton, and Newbold adjoin the manors of Rushton Spencer, Clowdewod, Rushton James, Biddulph, and Tunstall (Stafford) ? (C. 28 Nov ., I.D. 9 Jan ., at Congleton.)

I googled and found the present owner of the Cloud House and this is what the owner gave as its history.

The site of Cloud House north-west of Woodhouse Green was probably occupied in 1451 by WILLIAM SUTTON of the Cloud; the Sutton family certainly owned the house in 1596. (fn. 34) The present house is dated 1612 and has a small 18th-century extension on the north. Raven's Clough to the east was so called by 1596. (fn. 35) North of Cloud House there was evidently a settlement at Lymford in 1333, when there was mention of Henry of Lymford. (fn. 36) Lymford House, recorded in1596, (fn. 37) possibly stood on the site of the present Lymford Farm, which is of the 18th century. Bythe later 18th century there were houses at Toftgreen at the road junction north-west of Cloud House, and also a settlement called Cloud Sideon the east side of the Cloud. (fn. 38)
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. Since the late 1500s the lordship of the manor of Rushton Spencer had been divided into five moieties. Since EDWARD SUTTON is described as a gentleman from Rushton Spencer it appears likely that he held one of these subdivisions. In 22 James I WILLIAM SUTTON the elder, gent., JANE his wife, and WILLIAM SUTTON the younger, gent. remitted for L320 to PHILIP OLDFIELD, RALPH EARDLEY, and FRA NCIS GIBSON 1 messuage, 2 cottages, 3 gardens, 60 acres land, 40 acres meadow, 60 acres pasture, 40 acres wood, common pasture for all cattle, common turbary of Cloudwood and Rushton Spencer, all tithes, oblations, obventions, and mortuaries in Cloudwood and Rushton Spencer, and one fifth part of the manor of Rushton Spencer with appurtenances [Collections For A History of Staffordshire Edited By The William Salt Archaeological Society (London, 1907), v. 10, New Series, Part I, pp. 66]


Any suggestions on earlier records than these records are welcome..

Marianne Dillow






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[marlow...@frontier.com]

I have found three more records that go with the land records at the bottom of this posting.

Source: Collections for a History of Staffordshire Vol. 16:

On the Octaves of St. Michael 38 Elizabeth

Between HENRY STANLEY, armiger, HUGH WYNYNGTON, armiger, RICHARD DAVENPORT, gentleman, ROBERRT WHITBYE, gentleman, FRANCIS HIGGENBOTHEN, gentleman, and EDWARD SUTTON, gentleman, complaints and JOHN SAVAGE, knight, JOHN SAVAGE, armiger, and EDWARD SAVAGE, armiger, deforciants, of the manor of RUSHTON SPENCER and 2 messauges, 6 cottages, 3 tofts, a water well, 30 gardens, 20 orchards, 200 acres of land, 150 acres of meadow, 300 acres of pasture, 100 acres of wood, 200 acres of furze and heath, 600 acres of moor, and L13 of rent in Rushton Spencer, Clowde, Clowde Wood and Heaton, also a fishery in the water of Daven. The deforciants remitted all rights to the complaint and to the heirs of HENRY STANLEY, and granted that they would warrannt the said manor and --- against the heir of JOHN SAVAGE, knight, deceased father of the JOHN SAVAGE, knight, for while the complaints gave them L800.

Source"Collections for a History of Staffordshire, Vol. 18:

On the octaves of Michaelmas 2 james I
Between JOHN DAVENPORT, armiger, EDWARD COTTON, armiger, EDWARD SUTTON, gentleman, and ANNE his wife and JOHN EARDLEY and ALICE his wife, deforciants , 50 acres land, 16 acres of meadow, 40 acres of pasture, and 10 acres of wood in Rushton Spencer, Ravensclough and Cloudewood. Between EDWARD and ANNE, for themselves and heir,and JOHN and ALICE for themselves and the heirs of ALICE, remitted all right to the complaints and to the heirs of JOHN, for which the complaints save the L100.

On the Octaves of St. Michael 42 Elizabeth
Between WILLIAM BRADDOCKE complainant and THOMAS SUTTON, gentleman and FRANCES his wife defornicants of a messauge, a toft, a garden, 8 acres of land, 6 acres of meadow, 8 acres of pasture, 6 acres of wood, common of pasture and common of turbury of RUSHTON JAMES. THOMAS and FRANCES remitted all right to WILLIAM and granted that they would warrant the said tennants against WILLIAM JENKENSON and JAN his wife, for which WILLIAM gave them L60.


Marianne Dillow

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