Robert Goushill
Dow...@aol.com
died 20 July 1403 as give in The Plantagenet Connection October 1998? It's
listed as follows, in part: 1 Robert Goushill of Hoveringham, Nottinghamshire
D. 20 July 1403
2. Nicholas of Hoveringham.
4. Nicholas of Hoveringham.
8. Thomas of Hoveringham, b. before 1296; d. 1374/75
9. Agnes.
16. Walter of Hoveringham d. before 2 October 1326.
17. Margery
32. John of Hoveringham
64. Walter of hoveringham.
65. Maud Hathersage of Rusholme, Lancashire
128. Ralph Goushill of Goxhill, Lincolnshire
129. Heveringham
130. Matthews Hathersage of Rusholme
131. Emma Meinhill of Killamarsh, Derbyshire.
Is there any connection to the Goxhill-Goushill-Gousle family mentioned in
Cokayne's Complete Peerage of England Vol. 6. pp. 42-43?
Ron Brennan.
Dow...@aol.com
Leo van de Pas
I have a reply and a question for you. I presume you don't have access
to the Complete Peerage?
Volume VI page 42
Sir Piers de Goushill (or Goushull or Gousle, footnote : These are three of
the variants; there are several more), of Goxhill, co.Lincoln, son and heir
of Sir Giles de Goushill (with footnotes in regards to appointments) of the
same, was summoned for military service in Wales in 1277 and 1282. On 28
June (1283) 11 Edward I he was summoned to attend the King at Shrewsbury.
He married Ela, daughter of Sir Ralph de Camoys, (footnote : Toppesfield
Manor in Essex was given to Piers de Goushill by Ralph de Camoys in free
marriage with Ela, his daughter and this manor descended to the Despencers),
and died before 1 July 1286, when any dignity which may be supposed to have
been created by the writ of 1283 descended to his son and heir Ralph de
Goushill.
This Ralph has a footnote :
This Ralph de Goushill was born about 1274 (aged 12 on feast of St.Leonard
14 Edw I) On 18 April 1288 (Close Roll) Eustache de Hache was granted his
lands in Gedney, during his minority. He married Hawise, daughter of Sir
Fulk FitzWarin, and died before 30 August 1294, being still under age. His
widow had dower assigned 30 January 1294 (5 Close Roll), and appears to have
married, 2ndly, Robert de Hoo. The heir of Ralph de Goushill was his infant
daughter Margaret, who was born in 1294, and was married, 1stly, to Philip
le Despencer, who died 24 September 1313. She was still under age when she
was married, 2ndly, to Sir John de Ros. He was dead in or before 1339, and
she died 29 July 1349.
And now my question, can you place a Robert Goushill, whose daughter,
Elizabeth, married William Hardwick? Elizabeth is recorded in Gerald Paget's
book on the ancestors of Prince Charles under entry Q 116497.
I have heard that this Elizabeth's first name is not certain. Any additional
information would be gratefully accepted.
Best wishes
Leo van de Pas
Sutliff
Dow...@aol.com wrote:
> Can anyone expand on the ancestry of Robert Goushill of Nottinghamshire who
> died 20 July 1403 as give in The Plantagenet Connection October 1998? It's
> listed as follows, in part: 1 Robert Goushill of Hoveringham, Nottinghamshire
> D. 20 July 1403
> 2. Nicholas of Hoveringham.
> 4. Nicholas of Hoveringham.
> 8. Thomas of Hoveringham, b. before 1296; d. 1374/75
> 9. Agnes.
> 16. Walter of Hoveringham d. before 2 October 1326.
> 17. Margery
> 32. John of Hoveringham
> 64. Walter of hoveringham.
> 65. Maud Hathersage of Rusholme, Lancashire
> 128. Ralph Goushill of Goxhill, Lincolnshire
> 129. Heveringham
> 130. Matthews Hathersage of Rusholme
> 131. Emma Meinhill of Killamarsh, Derbyshire.
>
> Is there any connection to the Goxhill-Goushill-Gousle family mentioned in
> Cokayne's Complete Peerage of England Vol. 6. pp. 42-43?
>
> Ron Brennan.
> Dow...@aol.com
Actually the ancestry of Robert Goushill posted above was first published to this
list on 7 August 1998 by Kay Allen. Source: The Moriarty Notebooks at the New
England Historic Genealogical Society in Boston.
Kay is one of the most knowledgeable and generous researchers on this list so you
might want to contact her directly with your questions. It would appear that
Giles de Goushill may fit into the Goushill pedigree at number 64 or possibly a
descent froma previous generation. You might also want to check the following
sources:
Thoroton's Nottinghamshire - iii, 62
The Genealogist - New Series - x,90 and xiv, 19
Good luck,
Henry Sutliff
DavidBotts
I may just be crying wolf, but...
Dave Botts
San Antonio, Texas
1 Robert Goushill b: WFT Est. 1356-1366 in of Hoveringham, County
Nottingham, England src: Plantagenet Ancestry of Seventeenth-Century Colonists
d: July 21, 1403 in Battle of Shrewsbury, England src: Plantagenet Ancestry
of Seventeenth-Century Colonists
... +Elizabeth Fitzalan b: Abt. 1366 in of Derbyshire, England src: Research
of Stuart John Wright m: Bet. January 1399/00 - August 19, 1401 src:
Plantagenet Ancestry of Seventeenth-Century Colonists d: July 08, 1425 in
Heveringham, Nottingham, England src: Research of Stuart John Wright
2 Joan Goushill b: Abt. 1401 src: Plantagenet Ancestry of
Seventeenth-Century Colonists
...... +Thomas Stanley b: Bet. 1405 - 1406 in of Latham and Knowsley, County
Lancaster, England src: Plantagenet Ancestry of Seventeenth-Century Colonists
.. 3 <more> b: WFT Est. 1417-1446 in County Lancaster?, England src:
Plantagenet Ancestry of Seventeenth-Century Colonists
.. 3 Elizabeth Stanley b: WFT Est. 1417-1466 in County Lancaster?, England
src: "Royal Boomsbury, Part One: Virginia Woolfe and E. M. Forster"
........ +Richard Molyneux b: WFT Est. 1400-1466 src: "Royal Boomsbury, Part
One: Virginia Woolfe and E. M. Forster"
..... 4 Anne Molyneux b: WFT Est. 1431-1506 in of England src: "Royal
Boomsbury, Part One: Virginia Woolfe and E. M. Forster" d: in of Sefton,
England src: "Royal Boomsbury, Part One: Virginia Woolfe and E. M. Forster"
........... +Alexander Standish b: WFT Est. 1431-1506 src: "Royal Boomsbury,
Part One: Virginia Woolfe and E. M. Forster"
....... 5 Alice Standish b: WFT Est. 1461-1546 in of England src: "Royal
Boomsbury, Part One: Virginia Woolfe and E. M. Forster" d: in of Standish,
England src: "Royal Boomsbury, Part One: Virginia Woolfe and E. M. Forster"
............. +Hugh Anderton b: WFT Est. 1461-1546 src: "Royal Boomsbury,
Part One: Virginia Woolfe and E. M. Forster"
.......... 6 Dorothy Anderton b: WFT Est. 1491-1586 in of England src:
"Royal Boomsbury, Part One: Virginia Woolfe and E. M. Forster" d: in of
Euxton, England src: "Royal Boomsbury, Part One: Virginia Woolfe and E. M.
Forster"
................ +Edward Rigby b: WFT Est. 1481-1586 src: "Royal Boomsbury,
Part One: Virginia Woolfe and E. M. Forster"
............ 7 Alexander Rigby b: WFT Est. 1511-1628 in England src: "Royal
Boomsbury, Part One: Virginia Woolfe and E. M. Forster"
.................. +Catherin Barbazon b: WFT Est. 1511-1628 src: "Royal
Boomsbury, Part One: Virginia Woolfe and E. M. Forster"
............... 8 Edward Rigby b: WFT Est. 1551-1644 in of England src:
"Royal Boomsbury, Part One: Virginia Woolfe and E. M. Forster" d: in of Burgh
and Layton, Lancashire, England src: "Royal Boomsbury, Part One: Virginia
Woolfe and E. M. Forster"
..................... +Mary Hyde b: WFT Est. 1561-1644 src: "Royal Boomsbury,
Part One: Virginia Woolfe and E. M. Forster"
................. 9 Edward Rigby b: WFT Est. 1601-1660 in of England src:
"Royal Boomsbury, Part One: Virginia Woolfe and E. M. Forster" d: in of
London, Middlesex, England src: "Royal Boomsbury, Part One: Virginia Woolfe
and E. M. Forster"
....................... +Anne Bent b: WFT Est. 1601-1660 src: "Royal
Boomsbury, Part One: Virginia Woolfe and E. M. Forster"
.................... 10 Mary Rigby b: WFT Est. 1641-1675 src: "Royal
Boomsbury, Part One: Virginia Woolfe and E. M. Forster"
.......................... +John Ashton b: WFT Est. 1626-1675 src: "Royal
Boomsbury, Part One: Virginia Woolfe and E. M. Forster" d: January 28, 1690/91
src: "Royal Boomsbury, Part One: Virginia Woolfe and E. M. Forster"
...................... 11 Mary Ashton b: WFT Est. 1681-1691 src: "Royal
Boomsbury, Part One: Virginia Woolfe and E. M. Forster"
............................ +Richard Venn b: 1691 src: "Royal Boomsbury,
Part One: Virginia Woolfe and E. M. Forster" d: 1739 src: "Royal Boomsbury,
Part One: Virginia Woolfe and E. M. Forster"
......................... 12 Henry Venn b: Bet. 1709 - 1739 src: "Royal
Boomsbury, Part One: Virginia Woolfe and E. M. Forster"
............................... +Eling Bishop b: Bet. 1709 - 1769 src: "Royal
Boomsbury, Part One: Virginia Woolfe and E. M. Forster"
........................... 13 John Venn b: WFT Est. 1727-1785 src: "Royal
Boomsbury, Part One: Virginia Woolfe and E. M. Forster"
................................. +Catherine King b: WFT Est. 1743-1785 src:
"Royal Boomsbury, Part One: Virginia Woolfe and E. M. Forster"
.............................. 14 Jane Catherine Venn b: WFT Est. 1781-1811
src: "Royal Boomsbury, Part One: Virginia Woolfe and E. M. Forster"
.................................... +James Stephen b: WFT Est. 1747-1828
src: "Royal Boomsbury, Part One: Virginia Woolfe and E. M. Forster"
................................ 15 Leslie Stephen b: WFT Est. 1802-1844
src: "Royal Boomsbury, Part One: Virginia Woolfe and E. M. Forster"
...................................... +Julia Prinsep Jackson b: WFT Est.
1842-1854 src: "Royal Boomsbury, Part One: Virginia Woolfe and E. M. Forster"
................................... 16 Aleline Virginia 'Virginia Woolf'
Stephen b: 1882 src: "Royal Boomsbury, Part One: Virginia Woolfe and E. M.
Forster" d: 1941 src: "Royal Boomsbury, Part One: Virginia Woolfe and E. M.
Forster"
DavidBotts
Dennis Cunniff informs me I made one 'L' of an error in my previous post.
Royal Boomsbury" should read "Royal Bloomsbury, Part One: Virginia Woolfe and
E. M. Forster, New England Historical And Genealogical Society, NEXUS, Volume
XV, Number 6, Pages 205-206"
Dave Botts
San Antonio, Texas
"The biggest city in the world to ever publish a newspaper (The Recorder) from
a street named Botts."<g>
Dow...@aol.com
Thank you so much for your quick reply. I do have access to the Complete
Peerage.
I was trying to make a connection of some kind.
As to your question, no I cannot place a Robert Goushill with a dsughter
Elizabeth who married William Hardwick, but I will certainly be on the look
out for them.
Ron Brennan
Dow...@aol.com
Dow...@aol.com
RBodine996
>died 20 July 1403 as give in The Plantagenet Connection October 1998? It's
>listed as follows, in part: 1 Robert Goushill of Hoveringham, Nottinghamshire
>
>D. 20 July 1403
>2. Nicholas of Hoveringham.
>4. Nicholas of Hoveringham.
>8. Thomas of Hoveringham, b. before 1296; d. 1374/75
>9. Agnes.
>16. Walter of Hoveringham d. before 2 October 1326.
>17. Margery
>32. John of Hoveringham
>64. Walter of hoveringham.
>65. Maud Hathersage of Rusholme, Lancashire
>128. Ralph Goushill of Goxhill, Lincolnshire
>129. Heveringham
>130. Matthews Hathersage of Rusholme
>131. Emma Meinhill of Killamarsh, Derbyshire.
>
Eight generations of this family follow:
1. Robert de Gousel, of Flintham, Notts. Died by 1203. (THUR: 137)
2. Ralph de Gousle (Goushill), of Flintham. Living 1235/but dead by 16 Mar
1241. His wife may have been a daughter of Hugh III de Hoveringham. (NOT, 3:
62; THUR: 137-8)
3. Walter de Goushill, of Hoveringham. Living 1242-3, but dead before 1257.
Married to Matilda de Hathersage who was living 22 Sept 1263. She was
coheiress of her brother Matthew de Hathersage. (NOT, 3: 62-62; THUR: 138-140)
4. John de Goushill, of Hoveringham. Died 1271. Named in a plea of his
great-grandson Nicholas de Goushill in Sept 1388. Married to Agnes. (NOT, 3:
62; PPR: 174-175; THUR: 140).
5. Sir Walter de Goushill, of Hoveringham and Barleburgh. Died on or shortly
before 2 Oct 1326. Sheriff of Nottinghamshire 1294-1297; a knight by June
1297; fought in Scotland 1296 and again 1301 when directed to lead 1000 foot
from Nottingham to Berwick against the Scots. Knight of the Shire for
Nottingham, 1307 and 1311. Married 1stly to Margaret. (CIPM, 6: no. 750; KTE,
2: 133; NOT, 2: 63; THUR: 140-143).
6. Sir Thomas de Goushill, of Hoveringham. Born c1296, died 21 Dec 1371. He
was preparing to go on a pilgrimage to Santiago in 1333. (CIPM, 6: no. 750;
KW: 236; NOT, 3: 62; THUR: 143-144). His wife was Agnes, who was living 1374.
7. Sir Nicholas de Goushill, of Hoveringham and Barlborough. Born c1316, died
18 Jan 1393 and buried in the south aisle of Hoveringham Church. His loyal
service to Edward III in France, Scotland and Ireland were to his benefit when
charged with the many acts of criminal damage, mayhem and theft over the years,
including murderous assault (with his son, Sir Robert) upon one William Birkes,
obtaining a royal pardon almost immediately. He was a knight by 1345 and
served in many expeditions including that in Brittany 1342-1343, in the Low
Countries 1338-9, the Scottish Marches in 1340, and Brittany 1360. (HP: 3:
217; KW: 236; NOT: 3: 62-64; THUR: 144). The name of his wife is not known.
8. Sir Robert Goushill, of Hoveringham, died of wounds 21 July 1403 sustained
at the battle of Shrewsbury. His 4th wife, whom he married before 19 Aug 1401,
was Elizabeth FitzAlan. She died 8 July 1425.
(CIPM, 18: nos. 908-926, where he is called a knight; CP, 4: 205, 9: 604,
12(1): 251)
Sources:
CIPM: Calendars of Inq. Post Mortem
CP: The Complete Peerage
HP: The History of Parliament 1386-1421.
KTE: Moor, Charles, Knights of Edward I, 5 vols, London, 1931.
KW: Ayton, Andrew. Knights and Warhorses: Military Service and the English
Aristocracy Under Edward III, The Boydell Press, 1994.
NOT: Thoroton's History of Nottinghamshire, 3 vols., 1790.
PPR: Pedigrees from the Plea Rolls.
THUR: Foulds, Trevor. The Thurgarton Cartulary. Paul Watkins: Stamford,
1994.
Ronny Bodine
Paul Edward Garner-Richards
who married Philip Le Despencer?
Paul Garner-Richards
pa...@garner-richards.freeserve.co.uk
RBodine996 wrote in message
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>>Can anyone expand on the ancestry of Robert Goushill of Nottinghamshire
who
>>died 20 July 1403 as give in The Plantagenet Connection October 1998? It's
>>listed as follows, in part: 1 Robert Goushill of Hoveringham,
Nottinghamshire
>>
>