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johnmw...@gmail.com
Nov 19, 2013, 1:31:40 AM11/19/13
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Dear all,
Recently I have been updating my notes on the family of Hotham of Scorborough and I started looking for some contemporary evidence that Maud, wife of Edmund Fitzwilliam of Wadworth, Yorkshire was a daughter of Sir John Hotham of Scorborough (probably the John Hotham who died in 1414). However, I found two pieces of contemporary evidence that show that she was not a daughter of Sir John Hotham.
Edmund Fitzwilliam, a younger son of Sir Thomas Fitzwilliam of Sprotborough, Yorkshire by his wife, Elizabeth Clinton was born about 1355 and died on 5 February 1430.
Numerous pedigrees show his wife as Maud daughter of Sir John Hotham of Scorborough, Yorkshire. There is a list of all of the visitation pedigrees and other publications that show this marriage in Douglas Richardson's Magna Carta Ancestry, page 33:
http://books.google.com/books?id=8JcbV309c5UC&pg=RA3-PA33
Maud is said to have died on 18 May 1433 [1]. However Hunter's statement concerning her date of death is apparently incorrect.
The first piece of evidence which contradicts the identification of Maud as a Hotham is:
From the Feet of Fines for Northumberland.
CP 25/1/291/63, number 44.
County: Northumberland. Vill of Newcastle upon Tyne.
Place: Westminster.
Date: Two weeks from St Hilary, 2 Henry [V] [27 January 1415]. And afterwards one week from Holy Trinity, 4 Henry [V] [21 June 1416].
Parties: Roger de Thornton', John de Fenwyk, clerk, Thomas Pytyngton', clerk, and John Marsshall', querents, and Thomas Rokeby, knight, and Joan, his wife, deforciants.
Property: The manors of Netherleme in Riddesdale, Acton' and Netherbudylston' and 13 messuages and 19 bovates of land in Felton', Framlyngton' and Wetislade in the county of Northumberland and 4 messuages and 16 pounds of rent in the vill of Noui Castri sup[er] Tynam in the county of Newcastle.
Action: Plea of covenant.
Agreement: Thomas Rokeby and Joan have acknowledged the manors and tenements to be the right of Roger, of which Roger, John, Thomas Pytyngton' and John have the manors of their gift, and have remised and quitclaimed them from themselves and the heirs of Joan to Roger, John, Thomas Pytyngton' and John and the heirs of Roger for ever. And besides Thomas Rokeby and Joan granted for themselves and the heirs of Joan that 16 messuages, 16 bovates of land and the rent in the vills of Felton', Framlyngton' and the vill of Noui Castri sup[er] Tynam - which Edmund Fitz William and Maud, his wife, held for the life of Maud - and also that 1 messuage and 3 bovates of land in the vill of Wetislade - which Mary, who was the wife of William Swynburne, knight, held for life - of the inheritance of Joan on the day the agreement was made, and which after the decease of Maud and Mary ought to revert to Thomas Rokeby and Joan and the heirs of Joan - after the decease of Maud and Mary shall remain to Roger, John, Thomas Pytyngton' and John and the heirs of Roger, to hold of the chief lords for ever.
Warranty: Warranty.
For this: Roger, John, Thomas Pytyngton' and John have given them [1000? marks] of silver.
http://www.medievalgenealogy.org.uk/fines/abstracts/CP_25_1_291_63.shtml
Leaving aside the question of who Joan, the wife of Thomas Rokeby was, this fine clearly shows that Mary, the wife of Sir William Swinburne and Maud, the wife of Edmund Fitzwilliam were related.
The second piece of evidence is a record on the A2A website in the Foljambe of Osberton deeds:
[no title] DD/FJ/4/36/2 2 Feb. 1436/7
Language: Latin
Contents:
Lease.
1) Dame Matilda Strother, widow of Edmund Fitzwilliam.
2) John Whetelay, rector of Plombtree.
Wm. Pertrik, rector of Bramwith.
Thos. Dynyngton.
(1) to (2) all premises in Waddesworth, Dalton, Bawtry, Mysyn (Nt.), Austerfeld and Neuton upon Don (1) had from Thos. Nevyll, Lord Furnivall and others; for 20 years, £13 6s 8d p.a.
At Waddesworth, Purification of B.V.M., 15 Hen. VI.
Seal.
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/a2a/records.aspx?cat=157-ddfj_2&cid=3-21-2-2#3-21-2-2
This second record shows that Maud was still alive on 2 February 1437 and secondly and more importantly is shows her name as Maud Strother.
These two pieces of evidence together show that Maud was the daughter of Mary, one of the three daughters and co-heiresses of Sir Alan de Heton of Chillingham, Northumberland who died in 1388. Mary de Heton married firstly by a marriage settlement dated 11 November 1351 [2], Sir John Strother of Felton and Longframlington, Northumberland and secondly before 5 January 1386 [3], Sir William Swinburne of Capheaton, Northumberland (d. 1404) [4].
Maud, wife of Edmund Fitzwilliam, esquire of Wadworth was clearly a daughter of Mary de Heton and her first husband John son of Henry del Strother.
Regards,
John Watson
Sources:
1. Joseph Hunter, South Yorkshire. The History and Topography of the Deanery of Doncaster in the Diocese and County of York, vol. 1 (London, 1828), 251
2. Northumberland Record Office, Swinburne (Capheaton) estate records, ZSW/4/29
URL: http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/a2a/records.aspx?cat=155-zsw_1&cid=4-29&kw=ZSW/4/29
3. Northumberland Record Office, Swinburne (Capheaton) estate records, ZSW/1/79
URL:
4. HOP Online
URL: http://www.historyofparliamentonline.org/volume/1386-1421/member/swinburne-sir-william-1404
Recently I have been updating my notes on the family of Hotham of Scorborough and I started looking for some contemporary evidence that Maud, wife of Edmund Fitzwilliam of Wadworth, Yorkshire was a daughter of Sir John Hotham of Scorborough (probably the John Hotham who died in 1414). However, I found two pieces of contemporary evidence that show that she was not a daughter of Sir John Hotham.
Edmund Fitzwilliam, a younger son of Sir Thomas Fitzwilliam of Sprotborough, Yorkshire by his wife, Elizabeth Clinton was born about 1355 and died on 5 February 1430.
Numerous pedigrees show his wife as Maud daughter of Sir John Hotham of Scorborough, Yorkshire. There is a list of all of the visitation pedigrees and other publications that show this marriage in Douglas Richardson's Magna Carta Ancestry, page 33:
http://books.google.com/books?id=8JcbV309c5UC&pg=RA3-PA33
Maud is said to have died on 18 May 1433 [1]. However Hunter's statement concerning her date of death is apparently incorrect.
The first piece of evidence which contradicts the identification of Maud as a Hotham is:
From the Feet of Fines for Northumberland.
CP 25/1/291/63, number 44.
County: Northumberland. Vill of Newcastle upon Tyne.
Place: Westminster.
Date: Two weeks from St Hilary, 2 Henry [V] [27 January 1415]. And afterwards one week from Holy Trinity, 4 Henry [V] [21 June 1416].
Parties: Roger de Thornton', John de Fenwyk, clerk, Thomas Pytyngton', clerk, and John Marsshall', querents, and Thomas Rokeby, knight, and Joan, his wife, deforciants.
Property: The manors of Netherleme in Riddesdale, Acton' and Netherbudylston' and 13 messuages and 19 bovates of land in Felton', Framlyngton' and Wetislade in the county of Northumberland and 4 messuages and 16 pounds of rent in the vill of Noui Castri sup[er] Tynam in the county of Newcastle.
Action: Plea of covenant.
Agreement: Thomas Rokeby and Joan have acknowledged the manors and tenements to be the right of Roger, of which Roger, John, Thomas Pytyngton' and John have the manors of their gift, and have remised and quitclaimed them from themselves and the heirs of Joan to Roger, John, Thomas Pytyngton' and John and the heirs of Roger for ever. And besides Thomas Rokeby and Joan granted for themselves and the heirs of Joan that 16 messuages, 16 bovates of land and the rent in the vills of Felton', Framlyngton' and the vill of Noui Castri sup[er] Tynam - which Edmund Fitz William and Maud, his wife, held for the life of Maud - and also that 1 messuage and 3 bovates of land in the vill of Wetislade - which Mary, who was the wife of William Swynburne, knight, held for life - of the inheritance of Joan on the day the agreement was made, and which after the decease of Maud and Mary ought to revert to Thomas Rokeby and Joan and the heirs of Joan - after the decease of Maud and Mary shall remain to Roger, John, Thomas Pytyngton' and John and the heirs of Roger, to hold of the chief lords for ever.
Warranty: Warranty.
For this: Roger, John, Thomas Pytyngton' and John have given them [1000? marks] of silver.
http://www.medievalgenealogy.org.uk/fines/abstracts/CP_25_1_291_63.shtml
Leaving aside the question of who Joan, the wife of Thomas Rokeby was, this fine clearly shows that Mary, the wife of Sir William Swinburne and Maud, the wife of Edmund Fitzwilliam were related.
The second piece of evidence is a record on the A2A website in the Foljambe of Osberton deeds:
[no title] DD/FJ/4/36/2 2 Feb. 1436/7
Language: Latin
Contents:
Lease.
1) Dame Matilda Strother, widow of Edmund Fitzwilliam.
2) John Whetelay, rector of Plombtree.
Wm. Pertrik, rector of Bramwith.
Thos. Dynyngton.
(1) to (2) all premises in Waddesworth, Dalton, Bawtry, Mysyn (Nt.), Austerfeld and Neuton upon Don (1) had from Thos. Nevyll, Lord Furnivall and others; for 20 years, £13 6s 8d p.a.
At Waddesworth, Purification of B.V.M., 15 Hen. VI.
Seal.
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/a2a/records.aspx?cat=157-ddfj_2&cid=3-21-2-2#3-21-2-2
This second record shows that Maud was still alive on 2 February 1437 and secondly and more importantly is shows her name as Maud Strother.
These two pieces of evidence together show that Maud was the daughter of Mary, one of the three daughters and co-heiresses of Sir Alan de Heton of Chillingham, Northumberland who died in 1388. Mary de Heton married firstly by a marriage settlement dated 11 November 1351 [2], Sir John Strother of Felton and Longframlington, Northumberland and secondly before 5 January 1386 [3], Sir William Swinburne of Capheaton, Northumberland (d. 1404) [4].
Maud, wife of Edmund Fitzwilliam, esquire of Wadworth was clearly a daughter of Mary de Heton and her first husband John son of Henry del Strother.
Regards,
John Watson
Sources:
1. Joseph Hunter, South Yorkshire. The History and Topography of the Deanery of Doncaster in the Diocese and County of York, vol. 1 (London, 1828), 251
2. Northumberland Record Office, Swinburne (Capheaton) estate records, ZSW/4/29
URL: http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/a2a/records.aspx?cat=155-zsw_1&cid=4-29&kw=ZSW/4/29
3. Northumberland Record Office, Swinburne (Capheaton) estate records, ZSW/1/79
URL:
4. HOP Online
URL: http://www.historyofparliamentonline.org/volume/1386-1421/member/swinburne-sir-william-1404
TJ Booth
Nov 19, 2013, 5:21:42 AM11/19/13
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John,
Thank you for spotting this and decipering the relationship. I was aware of
the A2A lease, which I had thought it indicated that Maud had a second
husband named Strother (as did Hunter). The fine from Chris Phillips'
excellent website is a great find.
As for the death dates of her and her husband, my assumption is they come
from a now unreadable M.I. - perhaps once found in Wadworth/Waddesworth
church where the couple has a tomb pictured in Hunter. Based on the lease,
my presumption was - and still is - that her death date was 14 May 1438, but
when it was transcribed the '8' was mistaken for a '3', the two being
similar and sometimes difficult to differentiate. That date is not
inconsistent with the lease.
Terry Booth
Chicago IL
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Thank you for spotting this and decipering the relationship. I was aware of
the A2A lease, which I had thought it indicated that Maud had a second
husband named Strother (as did Hunter). The fine from Chris Phillips'
excellent website is a great find.
As for the death dates of her and her husband, my assumption is they come
from a now unreadable M.I. - perhaps once found in Wadworth/Waddesworth
church where the couple has a tomb pictured in Hunter. Based on the lease,
my presumption was - and still is - that her death date was 14 May 1438, but
when it was transcribed the '8' was mistaken for a '3', the two being
similar and sometimes difficult to differentiate. That date is not
inconsistent with the lease.
Terry Booth
Chicago IL
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Douglas Richardson
Nov 19, 2013, 7:32:32 PM11/19/13
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Dear John ~
I can assure you that Maud, wife of Edmund Fitz William, Esq., was most certainly a daughter of Sir John Hotham. Below are no less than six visitation records, all of which testify that Maud was the daughter of Sir John Hotham:
1. Hawley et al., Vis. of Essex 1552, 1558, 1570, 1612 & 1634 1 (H.S.P. 13) (1878): 197–199 (1612 Vis.) (Fitzwilliam ped.: “Edmond Fitz Williams 3d sonne and of Woodworth. = Mawde daugh. to Sr John Hotham Knight.”).
2. Flower, Vis. of Yorkshire 1563–4 (H.S.P. 16) (1881): 128 (“Fitzwilliam ped.: “Edmond Fytzwilliam 2 son to Sir John maryed to = Mawde doughter to John Hothom of Holdernes, Knight.”).
3. Glover, Vis. of Staffordshire 1583 (Colls. Hist. Staffs. 3(2)) (1883): 76–77 (Fitzwilliam ped.: “Edmonde Fitzwill’ms 2 sonne = Maulde, da. of Sir John Hotham of Storbroughe”).
4. Harvey et al., Vis. of Bedfordshire 1566, 1582, 1634 & 1669 (H.S.P. 19) (1884): 27–29 (1566 Vis.) (Fitzwilliam ped.: “Edmond [Fitzwilliam] second sonne.”).
5. Benolte et al., Vis. of Surrey 1530, 1572 & 1623 (H.S.P. 43) (1899): 5–6 (Fitz Williams ped.: “Edmond Fitz Williams of Oldworth. = Maud d. of Sr John Hotham of Holdernes.”).
6. Harvey et al., Vis. of the North 3 (Surtees Soc. 144) (1930): 65–67 (Scrope ped.: “Edmundus Fitzwilliam = Matildis filia Iohannis Hothom de Holdernes”).
Elsewhere I find that Dallaway, History of the Western Division of the County of Sussex 1 (1815): 247 sets forth armorial bearings found at Cowdray, Sussex as described by J.C. Brooke, Somerset Herald. They include one for the following couple:
“Edmond Fitz-William ... and ... Maud, daughter of Sir John Hotham, of Holderness. Arms on her mantle; or on a bend, sable three mullets pierced; argent.”).
The arms on Maud Fitz William's mantle can be readily identified as belonging to the Hotham family.
The Northumberland fine you found dated 1415 does not show (as you think) that Maud, wife of Edmund Fitzwilliam, was closely related to Mary Heton, wife of Sir William Swinburne. Rather, the fine implies that both women were widows of near male relatives of Joan, wife of Thomas Rokeby.
The following record taken from the online Discovery Catalogue dated the same year (1415) indicates that Joan, wife of Thomas Rokeby, was the "next of kin and heir" of John del Strother, the former husband of Mary (Heton) (Strother) Swinburne.
"ZSW/1/149 26 Sep 1415
Contents:
Whereas Maria formerly wife of William de Swynburn knight deceased holds for her life one messuage and 3 bovates of land in Wetislade Co. Northumberland which belonged to John del Strother her late husband, lying divided as by right, with the reversion belonging by right to Joan wife of Thomas de Rokeby knight as next of kin and heir of said John her late husband, and whereas Thomas de Rokeby and Joan his wife for themselves, heirs and assigns by a fine levied in the King's Court have granted the said reversion to Roger de Thornton, John de Fenwyke clerk, Thomas de Pityngton clerk and John Marsshall to hold the reversion when it falls in to them and their heirs and assigns forever, etc. Now Maria in pure widowhood etc., has performed full attendance and for one penny has by these presents legally attorned by virtue of the said fine of the grant in the name of seizin and possession of the reversion to Roger, John, Thomas and John and their heirs forever according to the force of the fine in all its articles etc., always however saving to her and her assigns during her life her legal rights. Dated the Thursday before St. Michael 3 Henry V Vol. 1. p. 51." END OF QUOTE.
As to the second record you located dated 1437 which names "Dame Matilda Strother," as "widow of Edmund Fitzwilliam," the way I would interpret this is that Maud, wife of Edmund Fitzwilliam, was formerly the wife of a Strother man who was a knight. We can be sure that her former husband was a knight as she is called "Dame." Maud's later husband Edmund Fitzwilliam was never knighted. She would only be called Dame as the wife/widow of a knight.
I'm unable to tell at present which Strother male was Maud Hotham's first husband. Roskell indicates that Mary Heton, widow of Sir William Swinburne, married (1st) while very young, in 1351, to Sir John Strother, of Felton and Longframlington, son of Henry Strother.
Holford & Stringer, Border Liberties and Loyalties: North-east England, C.1200 - C.1400 (2010): 340, footnote 197 indicates that Mary Heton's first husband, John Strother, was the nephew of Alan Strother.
This at least gives you the bare bones outline of the Strother family tree.
Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah
I can assure you that Maud, wife of Edmund Fitz William, Esq., was most certainly a daughter of Sir John Hotham. Below are no less than six visitation records, all of which testify that Maud was the daughter of Sir John Hotham:
1. Hawley et al., Vis. of Essex 1552, 1558, 1570, 1612 & 1634 1 (H.S.P. 13) (1878): 197–199 (1612 Vis.) (Fitzwilliam ped.: “Edmond Fitz Williams 3d sonne and of Woodworth. = Mawde daugh. to Sr John Hotham Knight.”).
2. Flower, Vis. of Yorkshire 1563–4 (H.S.P. 16) (1881): 128 (“Fitzwilliam ped.: “Edmond Fytzwilliam 2 son to Sir John maryed to = Mawde doughter to John Hothom of Holdernes, Knight.”).
3. Glover, Vis. of Staffordshire 1583 (Colls. Hist. Staffs. 3(2)) (1883): 76–77 (Fitzwilliam ped.: “Edmonde Fitzwill’ms 2 sonne = Maulde, da. of Sir John Hotham of Storbroughe”).
4. Harvey et al., Vis. of Bedfordshire 1566, 1582, 1634 & 1669 (H.S.P. 19) (1884): 27–29 (1566 Vis.) (Fitzwilliam ped.: “Edmond [Fitzwilliam] second sonne.”).
5. Benolte et al., Vis. of Surrey 1530, 1572 & 1623 (H.S.P. 43) (1899): 5–6 (Fitz Williams ped.: “Edmond Fitz Williams of Oldworth. = Maud d. of Sr John Hotham of Holdernes.”).
6. Harvey et al., Vis. of the North 3 (Surtees Soc. 144) (1930): 65–67 (Scrope ped.: “Edmundus Fitzwilliam = Matildis filia Iohannis Hothom de Holdernes”).
Elsewhere I find that Dallaway, History of the Western Division of the County of Sussex 1 (1815): 247 sets forth armorial bearings found at Cowdray, Sussex as described by J.C. Brooke, Somerset Herald. They include one for the following couple:
“Edmond Fitz-William ... and ... Maud, daughter of Sir John Hotham, of Holderness. Arms on her mantle; or on a bend, sable three mullets pierced; argent.”).
The arms on Maud Fitz William's mantle can be readily identified as belonging to the Hotham family.
The Northumberland fine you found dated 1415 does not show (as you think) that Maud, wife of Edmund Fitzwilliam, was closely related to Mary Heton, wife of Sir William Swinburne. Rather, the fine implies that both women were widows of near male relatives of Joan, wife of Thomas Rokeby.
The following record taken from the online Discovery Catalogue dated the same year (1415) indicates that Joan, wife of Thomas Rokeby, was the "next of kin and heir" of John del Strother, the former husband of Mary (Heton) (Strother) Swinburne.
"ZSW/1/149 26 Sep 1415
Contents:
Whereas Maria formerly wife of William de Swynburn knight deceased holds for her life one messuage and 3 bovates of land in Wetislade Co. Northumberland which belonged to John del Strother her late husband, lying divided as by right, with the reversion belonging by right to Joan wife of Thomas de Rokeby knight as next of kin and heir of said John her late husband, and whereas Thomas de Rokeby and Joan his wife for themselves, heirs and assigns by a fine levied in the King's Court have granted the said reversion to Roger de Thornton, John de Fenwyke clerk, Thomas de Pityngton clerk and John Marsshall to hold the reversion when it falls in to them and their heirs and assigns forever, etc. Now Maria in pure widowhood etc., has performed full attendance and for one penny has by these presents legally attorned by virtue of the said fine of the grant in the name of seizin and possession of the reversion to Roger, John, Thomas and John and their heirs forever according to the force of the fine in all its articles etc., always however saving to her and her assigns during her life her legal rights. Dated the Thursday before St. Michael 3 Henry V Vol. 1. p. 51." END OF QUOTE.
As to the second record you located dated 1437 which names "Dame Matilda Strother," as "widow of Edmund Fitzwilliam," the way I would interpret this is that Maud, wife of Edmund Fitzwilliam, was formerly the wife of a Strother man who was a knight. We can be sure that her former husband was a knight as she is called "Dame." Maud's later husband Edmund Fitzwilliam was never knighted. She would only be called Dame as the wife/widow of a knight.
I'm unable to tell at present which Strother male was Maud Hotham's first husband. Roskell indicates that Mary Heton, widow of Sir William Swinburne, married (1st) while very young, in 1351, to Sir John Strother, of Felton and Longframlington, son of Henry Strother.
Holford & Stringer, Border Liberties and Loyalties: North-east England, C.1200 - C.1400 (2010): 340, footnote 197 indicates that Mary Heton's first husband, John Strother, was the nephew of Alan Strother.
This at least gives you the bare bones outline of the Strother family tree.
Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah
John Watson
Nov 20, 2013, 12:30:27 AM11/20/13
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I think that we will have to agree to differ on this matter. Apart from visitation pedigrees there are no contemporary documents showing that Maud, wife of Edmund Fitzwilliam was a daughter of Sir John Hotham.
The earliest of the visitation pedigrees (Visitations of the North Part III) is dated between 1480 and 1500. All of the others may have been copied from that. If the first one was wrong, then they are all wrong. The heraldic portraits at Cowdray are also not contemporary, they were probably painted about 100 years after Edmund and Maud died.
I have found two contemporary documents that appear to show that Maud was a daughter of John del Strother and his wife Mary de Heton. You may choose to ignore them if you wish. Now that I know what I'm looking for, I may be able to find more.
Best regards,
John
John Watson
Nov 20, 2013, 3:01:58 AM11/20/13
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I stand most humbly corrected. You were right.
I have now found the contemporary evidence which shows that Maud, wife of Edmund Fitzwilliam was a daughter of Sir John Hotham of Scorborough, Yorkshire. The evidence is given in the following deed from the Laing Charters in Edinburgh:
78. 30th October 1387. Charter by Robert of Bugthrope, chaplain, and John Burell, granting to Thomas of Strother, knight, and Matilda his wife, daughter of John of Huthome, knight, the moiety of the town of Wester Newton in Glendale, which the granters have by the gift of Thomas of Strother : To be held to Thomas and Matilda and their lawful heirs of their bodies, whom failing, to the heirs of Thomas, of the lords of the fee. Witnesses, Roger Heroun, Edward Heroun, [Thomas] Gray of Hortoun, John of Maners, knights; John of Hesilrig, John of Howburne, Robert [Maners?]. Dated at Newtoun in Glendale, 30th October 1387.
79. 30th October 1387. Letters by Thomas del Strother, knight, and [Ma]tilda his wife, appointing John Kerre and Richard Strother (?) their attorneys, for receiving sasine of the half town of Wester Neutoun, with all pertinents, which belonged to the deceased Roger Corbet, which the granters had by gift of Robert of Bugthrop and John Burell. At Newtoun in Glendale, 30th October 1387.
80. 12th May 1388. Charter by Robert of Maners, granting to Thomas of Strother, knight, and Matilda his wife, his half carucate of land in Kirknewtoun meadows, arable land, pasture, and woods, except the wood of Ruttok : To be held to them and the heirs of Thomas. Given at Kirknewton in Glendale, 12th Mav 1388. Witnesses, Sir Roger Heron, Sir John of Maners, Sir Thomas Gray of Hortoun, knights, John Burell and Richard Symondsone. Seal appended : an eagle with wings displayed, supporting a shield quarterly, first and fourth, three bars; second and third, three squirrels (?) Legend apparently 'Sigillum Roberti Ma[ners],' but somewhat defaced.
John Anderson, ed., Calendar of the Laing Charters, A.D. 854-1837 Belonging to the University of Edinburgh, 1899, 21-2
URL: http://archive.org/stream/calendaroflaingc00edin#page/20/mode/1up
I was almost correct, Maud Hotham was not the daughter of Mary de Heton, but her daughter-in-law. Maud Hotham married firstly, before 30 October 1387, Sir Thomas del Strother of Kirknewton, Northumberland, son of John del Strother and Mary, daughter of Sir Alan de Heton.
A pedigree of Strother of Kirknewton is shown in the History of Northumberland, Vol. 11, p. 132 which can be found online at: http://archive.org/stream/historyofnorthum11nort#page/132/mode/1up
In the pedigree Maud is shown as "Matilda, daughter of John Hicchorne or Heethorne, kt., wife of Thomas Strother who received land in West Newton in 1387, and in Kirknewton in 1388." It appears that Thomas del Strother and Maud did not have any children, since Thomas' brother Henry was his heir in 1420.
23 May 1420, "Henry del Strothir, esquier, frer et heir a monsire Thomas del Strothir"
M. Sellers, York Memorandum Book, Part II: 1388-1493, Surtees Society 125, 1915, 113
http://archive.org/stream/yorkmemorandum200surtuoft#page/113/mode/1up
So now everything falls into place, and I have found what I was looking for.
Best regards,
John
John Watson
Nov 22, 2013, 10:50:18 PM11/22/13
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Dear all,
Just to clarify the dates of the marriages of Maud Hotham and her two husbands; Sir Thomas del Strother of Kirknewton in Glendale, Northumberland and Edmund Fitz William of Wadworth, Yorkshire.
Maud Hotham, daughter of Sir John de Hotham V of Scorborough, Yorkshire, was probably quite young when she married Thomas del Strother. Her brother, Sir John de Hotham VI, was born about 1386 as he was found to be 28 years old at the inquisition post mortem of his father in 1415. Maud was probably born about 10 years earlier.
Maud and Thomas were married shortly before 30 October 1387. The following deed is possibly a marriage settlement.
Charter by Robert of Bugthrope, chaplain, and John Burell, granting to Thomas of Strother, knight, and Matilda his wife, daughter of John of Huthome, knight, the moiety of the town of Wester Newton in Glendale, which the granters have by the gift of Thomas of Strother : To be held to Thomas and Matilda and their lawful heirs of their bodies, whom failing, to the heirs of Thomas, of the lords of the fee. Witnesses, Roger Heroun, Edward Heroun, [Thomas] Gray of Hortoun, John of Maners, knights; John of Hesilrig, John of Howburne, Robert [Maners?]. Dated at Newtoun in Glendale, 30th October 1387.
H. T. Riley, ed., Johannis de Trokelowe Et Henrici de Blaneforde Chronica Et Annales, Rolls Series (London 1866), 166-7
URL: http://books.google.com/books?id=zZNLPyv9oL0C&pg=PA166
In 1395 Thomas del Stother challenged Sir William Inglish to a duel which was fought in Teviotdale on the Scottish borders with Archibald Douglas and Henry Percy earl of Northumberland as umpires as wardens of the Marches. Thomas del Strother was killed in the fight.
"Duellum apud Rewalquhe inter Thomam Strotheris inuasorem Anglicum, et William Inglish defensorem Scotum, et coram Archibald comite de Douglace et Henrico Percy seniore comite Northumbrie, judicibus, et marchorum custodibus; interfectus est Anglicus miles anno Domini millesimo iii xcv."
W. B. Turnbull ed., Extracta e Variis Cronicis Scocie from the ancient manuscript in the Advocates Library at Edinburgh now first printed, Abbotsford Club 23 (Edinburgh, 1841), 203
URL: http://books.google.com/books?id=UBMuAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA203
For this feat Sir William Inglish was granted the barony of Manor in Peebleshire by King Robert III of Scotland.
"[Charter of King Robert III] to Sir William Inglis, of the barony of Maner, blench vicecom. Peebles, for the slaughter of Thomas Struther, Englishman, in single combat; reservand the lands possest by William Gladstanes, Knight, in the said baronie, and superiority therof."
William Robertson ed., An Index, Drawn Up about the Year 1629, of many records of charters granted by the different sovereigns of Scotland between the years 1309 and 1413, Most of which Records Have Been Long Missing (Edinburgh, 1798) 137, No. 18
URL: http://books.google.com/books?id=MnRbAAAAQAAJ&pg=137
Maud probably married Edmund Fitzwilliam between 1395 and 1397.
Best regards,
John
Just to clarify the dates of the marriages of Maud Hotham and her two husbands; Sir Thomas del Strother of Kirknewton in Glendale, Northumberland and Edmund Fitz William of Wadworth, Yorkshire.
Maud Hotham, daughter of Sir John de Hotham V of Scorborough, Yorkshire, was probably quite young when she married Thomas del Strother. Her brother, Sir John de Hotham VI, was born about 1386 as he was found to be 28 years old at the inquisition post mortem of his father in 1415. Maud was probably born about 10 years earlier.
Maud and Thomas were married shortly before 30 October 1387. The following deed is possibly a marriage settlement.
Charter by Robert of Bugthrope, chaplain, and John Burell, granting to Thomas of Strother, knight, and Matilda his wife, daughter of John of Huthome, knight, the moiety of the town of Wester Newton in Glendale, which the granters have by the gift of Thomas of Strother : To be held to Thomas and Matilda and their lawful heirs of their bodies, whom failing, to the heirs of Thomas, of the lords of the fee. Witnesses, Roger Heroun, Edward Heroun, [Thomas] Gray of Hortoun, John of Maners, knights; John of Hesilrig, John of Howburne, Robert [Maners?]. Dated at Newtoun in Glendale, 30th October 1387.
John Anderson, ed., Calendar of the Laing Charters, A.D. 854-1837 Belonging to the University of Edinburgh, 1899, 21-2
URL: http://archive.org/stream/calendaroflaingc00edin#page/20/mode/1up
In 1394, Sir Thomas del Strother was captain of Jedburgh castle. His wife and eight household servants were present (no children are mentioned) when the castle was attacked by the Scots led by Sir Wiliam Inglish.
URL: http://archive.org/stream/calendaroflaingc00edin#page/20/mode/1up
H. T. Riley, ed., Johannis de Trokelowe Et Henrici de Blaneforde Chronica Et Annales, Rolls Series (London 1866), 166-7
URL: http://books.google.com/books?id=zZNLPyv9oL0C&pg=PA166
In 1395 Thomas del Stother challenged Sir William Inglish to a duel which was fought in Teviotdale on the Scottish borders with Archibald Douglas and Henry Percy earl of Northumberland as umpires as wardens of the Marches. Thomas del Strother was killed in the fight.
"Duellum apud Rewalquhe inter Thomam Strotheris inuasorem Anglicum, et William Inglish defensorem Scotum, et coram Archibald comite de Douglace et Henrico Percy seniore comite Northumbrie, judicibus, et marchorum custodibus; interfectus est Anglicus miles anno Domini millesimo iii xcv."
W. B. Turnbull ed., Extracta e Variis Cronicis Scocie from the ancient manuscript in the Advocates Library at Edinburgh now first printed, Abbotsford Club 23 (Edinburgh, 1841), 203
URL: http://books.google.com/books?id=UBMuAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA203
For this feat Sir William Inglish was granted the barony of Manor in Peebleshire by King Robert III of Scotland.
"[Charter of King Robert III] to Sir William Inglis, of the barony of Maner, blench vicecom. Peebles, for the slaughter of Thomas Struther, Englishman, in single combat; reservand the lands possest by William Gladstanes, Knight, in the said baronie, and superiority therof."
William Robertson ed., An Index, Drawn Up about the Year 1629, of many records of charters granted by the different sovereigns of Scotland between the years 1309 and 1413, Most of which Records Have Been Long Missing (Edinburgh, 1798) 137, No. 18
URL: http://books.google.com/books?id=MnRbAAAAQAAJ&pg=137
Maud probably married Edmund Fitzwilliam between 1395 and 1397.
Best regards,
John
Douglas Richardson
Nov 23, 2013, 5:23:01 PM11/23/13
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Dear John ~
Hedley, Northumberland Families 1 (1968): 102 gives the following information regarding Mary Heton and her two husbands, John del Strother (living 1379) and Sir William de Swinburne (died 1402). Unfortunately Hedley confuses the order of Mary's marriages. This error happened as he confused her first husband, John del Strother, with his kinsman of the same name, another John del Strother (living 1404 and 1410).
I've copied below Hedley's comments, partly edited by me:
"In 1384/5 William [de Swinburne] entered into an agreement with John, duke of Lancaster, to serve him with an esquire at a fee of £20 a year for life, and to travel with him to whatever parts it should please the duke. On 10 July 1386 he was appointed a conservator of the truce between England and Scotland ..."
"On 30 April 1395 he was probably acting as a trustee when he conveyed to Robert de Clifford all his rights in the vills of East and West Wallington ....
"In 1399 (21 July) he had a quitclaim from sir William, lord of Hilton, in all his lands in Heugh and Stamfordham ... The last known event in Sir William's eventful life, perhaps when he had retired from active service on the Scottish and Welsh borders, was on 24 June 1402 when he conveyed to his son William, his estates of Capheaton, Stamfordham and Heugh, reserving an annuity of 100 marks. Less than twelve months after this (before 11 August 1404) William was dead and his widow Mary had married John del Strother. Mary de Swinburn was one of the three daughters and coheiresses of sir Alan de Heton of Chillingham. An inquisition taken at Alnwick on 15 August found that sir Alan de Heton had died on Thursday in the fourth week in Lent (21 March) 1387 and had held at his death a moiety of the manor of Lowick, lands in North Charlton and the manor and advowson of Ingram. His three daughters were then aged 30 and more. On 24 May 1389 the Heton lands were partitioned, the share of Mary de Swinburne being a husbandland in Lowick, the manor and advowson of Ingram and a third part of the manors of Titlington and Unthank."
"Mary de Swinburne's dower lands confirmed to her by deed dated 26 April 1409 were the manors of Williamston, Stamfordham, Heugh and Raylees and she had rooms in the manor house of Haughton to reside in, and 16s. 8d. a year out of the vill and manor of Haughton. In 12 October 1404 as 'widow of William de Swynburne, knight' she settled her lands in Ingram, Lowick, Doddington, Charlton, North Horton, Swinhow, Coldmartin, Tynemouth, Hethpool and Linton on her son William and Elizabeth his wife. On 9 June 1415, Edgar of Heton, an illegitimate son of sir Alan de Heton fully discharged and released to his sister, dame Mary de Scwynbourne, the sum of money which he had challenged 'by our father's testament.' Hodgson in error makes this Edgar of Heton and Margt (sic) Swinburne, children of sir William and Mary Swinburne. On 7 August 1404 Mary, widow of sir William, with the assent of John del Strother, made a contract with sir John de Wydrington for the marriage of her son William with sir John's daughter Elizabeth; it was agrees that when William should come to the age of 20 years, sir John would pay him £100."
"Although generally referred to in these documents under her first husband's name of Swynburne, Mary had in fact in 1403 married John del Strother. Her son William refers to his step-father as 'his uncle and next friend' in a letter of 1409/10. On Thursday next before the feast of St. Michael 1415 Mary described as 'once wife of sir William de Swinburne' held a messuage and three bovates of land in 'Welisdale' (?Weetslade) which had belonged to her husband John del Strother. In the pedigree of Strother of Kirknewton (NCH. XI, p. 132) it is stated that in 1351 Henry Strother agreed to settle lands to the value of £10 on his son John on his betrothal to Mary daughter of Alan de Heton. In consequence of this Mary is stated to have married firstly John Strother (living 1379) and secondly, before 1388, sir William de Swinburne. By her first marriage she is stated to have had three sons, Thomas, Henry and Alan; this cannot have been so as her heirs were undoubtedly the Swinburnes."
"Besides their son and heir William, sir William de Swyneburn and his wife Mary had two daughters. One of these was Joan, wife of John de Lyle (Lisle), ... The other daughter Elizabeth, married Robert de Horsley..." END OF QUOTE.
While Hedley has made an error in the order of the marriages of Mary Heton, I trust some of what he says is helpful to you.
Hedley, Northumberland Families 1 (1968): 102 gives the following information regarding Mary Heton and her two husbands, John del Strother (living 1379) and Sir William de Swinburne (died 1402). Unfortunately Hedley confuses the order of Mary's marriages. This error happened as he confused her first husband, John del Strother, with his kinsman of the same name, another John del Strother (living 1404 and 1410).
I've copied below Hedley's comments, partly edited by me:
"In 1384/5 William [de Swinburne] entered into an agreement with John, duke of Lancaster, to serve him with an esquire at a fee of £20 a year for life, and to travel with him to whatever parts it should please the duke. On 10 July 1386 he was appointed a conservator of the truce between England and Scotland ..."
"On 30 April 1395 he was probably acting as a trustee when he conveyed to Robert de Clifford all his rights in the vills of East and West Wallington ....
"In 1399 (21 July) he had a quitclaim from sir William, lord of Hilton, in all his lands in Heugh and Stamfordham ... The last known event in Sir William's eventful life, perhaps when he had retired from active service on the Scottish and Welsh borders, was on 24 June 1402 when he conveyed to his son William, his estates of Capheaton, Stamfordham and Heugh, reserving an annuity of 100 marks. Less than twelve months after this (before 11 August 1404) William was dead and his widow Mary had married John del Strother. Mary de Swinburn was one of the three daughters and coheiresses of sir Alan de Heton of Chillingham. An inquisition taken at Alnwick on 15 August found that sir Alan de Heton had died on Thursday in the fourth week in Lent (21 March) 1387 and had held at his death a moiety of the manor of Lowick, lands in North Charlton and the manor and advowson of Ingram. His three daughters were then aged 30 and more. On 24 May 1389 the Heton lands were partitioned, the share of Mary de Swinburne being a husbandland in Lowick, the manor and advowson of Ingram and a third part of the manors of Titlington and Unthank."
"Mary de Swinburne's dower lands confirmed to her by deed dated 26 April 1409 were the manors of Williamston, Stamfordham, Heugh and Raylees and she had rooms in the manor house of Haughton to reside in, and 16s. 8d. a year out of the vill and manor of Haughton. In 12 October 1404 as 'widow of William de Swynburne, knight' she settled her lands in Ingram, Lowick, Doddington, Charlton, North Horton, Swinhow, Coldmartin, Tynemouth, Hethpool and Linton on her son William and Elizabeth his wife. On 9 June 1415, Edgar of Heton, an illegitimate son of sir Alan de Heton fully discharged and released to his sister, dame Mary de Scwynbourne, the sum of money which he had challenged 'by our father's testament.' Hodgson in error makes this Edgar of Heton and Margt (sic) Swinburne, children of sir William and Mary Swinburne. On 7 August 1404 Mary, widow of sir William, with the assent of John del Strother, made a contract with sir John de Wydrington for the marriage of her son William with sir John's daughter Elizabeth; it was agrees that when William should come to the age of 20 years, sir John would pay him £100."
"Although generally referred to in these documents under her first husband's name of Swynburne, Mary had in fact in 1403 married John del Strother. Her son William refers to his step-father as 'his uncle and next friend' in a letter of 1409/10. On Thursday next before the feast of St. Michael 1415 Mary described as 'once wife of sir William de Swinburne' held a messuage and three bovates of land in 'Welisdale' (?Weetslade) which had belonged to her husband John del Strother. In the pedigree of Strother of Kirknewton (NCH. XI, p. 132) it is stated that in 1351 Henry Strother agreed to settle lands to the value of £10 on his son John on his betrothal to Mary daughter of Alan de Heton. In consequence of this Mary is stated to have married firstly John Strother (living 1379) and secondly, before 1388, sir William de Swinburne. By her first marriage she is stated to have had three sons, Thomas, Henry and Alan; this cannot have been so as her heirs were undoubtedly the Swinburnes."
"Besides their son and heir William, sir William de Swyneburn and his wife Mary had two daughters. One of these was Joan, wife of John de Lyle (Lisle), ... The other daughter Elizabeth, married Robert de Horsley..." END OF QUOTE.
While Hedley has made an error in the order of the marriages of Mary Heton, I trust some of what he says is helpful to you.
John Watson
Nov 24, 2013, 4:26:50 AM11/24/13
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Thank you very much for the extracts from Hedley. Most of the deeds he refers to are available on A2A in the Northumberland Record Office, Swinburne (Capheaton) estate records. I am not sure why Hedley has the order of Mary Heton's marriages reversed, but he may have followed Hodgson in this error.
There were two different people named John Strother alive in the early 1400s. The first was a half brother of William Swinburne so must have been a son of John Strother and Mary Heton:
12 July 1402, Receipt, indenture made at Beaumaris on 12 July 3 Henry IV between lord William de Swynburn lately Constable of Beaumaris Castle of the one part and Thomas Barnby, Receiver of the lord Henry Percy lord of Angles(ey) within the said lordship of the other part, witnessing that Thomas has paid to William on the same day by the hands of John Strothour the brother of William from the revenue ("precepto") of the lordship £26. 13. 4. for various moneys due to William at the command of lord Henry Percy. And (?) this is all that is due to William by the hand of Strothour by warrant of the lord on an endorsed paper
Northumberland Record Office, Swinburne (Capheaton) estate records, ZSW/1/116
The second John Strother is referred to as uncle by William Swinburne:
26 September 1410, Grant of Power of Attorney. William de Swynburn son and heir of Wm. de Swynburn knight and John de Strother his uncle and nearest friend constitute Thomas de Swynburn their attorney to deliver seizin to Dame Maria who was wife of William the father of the Manor of Wilzamston in Tyndale with all its hamlets and other possessions now in the tenure of Thomas Vepunt and all the lands, etc., in the towns and fields of Stanerdame and the Heugh in the county of Northumberland, and in Ralees in Redisdale, which formerly belonged to William the father as her dower, To hold to her for her life in the name of dower for all other lands etc., according to an agreement made with her, saving the reversion after her death to William the son Dated 26 September 11 Henry IV
Northumberland Record Office, Swinburne (Capheaton) estate records, ZSW/1/146
I can't quite work out this relationship - possibly this John Strother was his great uncle.
Regards,
John
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