Dear Newsgroup ~
Back in 2006, John Brandon presented excellent evidence which
indicated that Jane Greene, wife of the immigrant, Capt. William Pole
(or Poole) [died 1675], of Taunton, Plymouth, and Dorchester,
Massachusetts, was the daughter of John Greene, of Milton, Somerset,
living 1623, by his wife, Cecily, daughter of John Walrond, of Bovy
(in Seaton and Beer), Devon. Among other items, Mr. Brandon noted the
marriage of John Greene and Cecily Walrond in the parish of Seaton and
Beer, Devon in 1602. He pointed out that Jane (Greene) Pole was
styled "kinswoman" in the 1683 will of Katherine (Gale) Northcote,
widow, of Hoxton, Middlesex. Katherine Gale can readily be identified
as Jane Greene's first cousin, she being the daughter of Bridget
(Walrond) Gale, sister of Jane's mother, Cecily (Walrond) Greene.
Following John's post, I examined a pedigree of the Walrond family of
Bovey (in Seaton and Beer), Devon prepared by A.J.P. Skinner in 1907.
This pedigree was published in Transactions of the Devonshire
Association for the Advancement of Science, Literature, and Art,
volume 39 (1907), pp. 264-265. This chart sets forth the pedigree of
Cecily Walrond's immediate family. Cecily herself was not included in
the pedigree as a daughter of John Walrond and his wife, Jane Hatch,
presumably because Cecily's baptism was not recorded at Seaton and
Beer, Devon.
Since that time, I've continue the search for Cecily Walrond's
baptismal record. Recently I located the correct record in the IGI
(or International Genealogical Index). The IGI shows the Cecily
"Waldren" was baptized at Exminster, Devon 13 November 1581, she being
the daughter of John "Waldren."
The above record may be viewed at the following weblink:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/N5WB-8F4
The reason for Cecily's baptism at Exminster, Devon is explained by
the fact that her widowed grandmother, Elizabeth (Fortescue) Hatch,
married (2nd) in 1569 Geoffrey Tothill, of Exminster, Devon [see
Howard & Stoate Devon Muster Roll for 1569 (1977): 68]. Following
this marriage, Elizabeth went to live at Exminster, Devon, in which
place she was still living in 1587 [see Genealogist 1 (1887): 368–
375].
As it turns out John Walrond and his wife, Jane Hatch, had a total of
fourteen children, baptized variously in the parishes of Exminster,
Branscombe, and Seaton and Beer, Devon:
Cecily, 1581, John, 1583, Jane, 1584, Walter, 1585, Gertrude, 1588,
Mary, 1590, Wilmot, 1591, Edmund, 1592, Bridget, 1593, Frances, 1594,
Helen 1596, Rowland, 1597, Katherine (baptism not found), and Anne,
1602.
Please see my forthcoming book, Royal Ancestry, for the extended royal
and noble ancestry of Jane Greene, wife of Capt. William Pole.
Special thanks go to John Brandon for his contribution in the
identification of the parentage of Jane (Greene) Pole.
Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah
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Copy of John Brandon's original post
From: "John Brandon" <
starb...@hotmail.com>
Subject: English origin of Mrs. Jane Poole (nee Greene) ofTaunton-
Dorchester-Boston
Date: 10 Nov 2006 13:29:11 -0800
In May 2004, I made this posting:
I believe Doug's new book (RPA) states that William1 Pole or Poole of
Taunton, Mass., married Jane, sister of John Greene of Milton,
Somerset.
I wonder if she wouldn't be the Jane Greene, dau. of John and Sicile
(Walrond) Greene of Milton, who was aged 7 in the 1623 Somerset
Visitation. See
http://www.uk-genealogy.org.uk/england/Somerset/visitations/p48.html
This lady would have been much younger than her husband, William
Poole,
but the birth years of their children (1639-60) would seem to require
this. See
http://otal.umd.edu/~walt/gen/htmfile/5310.htm
William and Jane (Greene) Poole are ancestors #1820 and 1821 in the
ancestor table of John Kerry. See
http://www.wargs.com/political/kerry.html
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Reitwiesner's ancestor table has #1821 as Mary ----, apparently
following the name given in Gary Boyd Roberts' _Royal Descents of 600
Immigrants_. Doug's book, however, lists her as Jane Greene, sister of
John Greene of Milton, Somersetshire, and this is clear from and entry
concerning the Pooles found in Aspinwall's notebook, I believe:
http://books.google.com/books?vid=LCCN09004678&id=8n9Y0ia1qxAC&q=%22john+greene%22+milton&dq=%22john+greene%22+milton&pgis=1
http://books.google.com/books?vid=OCLC02129761&id=OEIOAAAAIAAJ&q=%22john+greene%22+milton&dq=%22john+greene%22+milton&pgis=1
Also note that Mrs. Katherine Northcote made mention in her 1685 will
of "my dear kinswoman, Mrs. Jane Poole in Boston in New England."
http://books.google.com/books?vid=LCCN09004678&id=BQze5h3o_HgC&q=theophilus+northcote&dq=theophilus+northcote&pgis=1
The 1677 will of Rev. Theophilus Gale, moreover, had mentioned his
"sister Mrs. Katherine Northcott" ...
http://books.google.com/books?vid=0EtafodO3orw4IJWcS&id=2rkEg7BFm3YC&pg=PA116&lpg=PA116&dq=judith+annesley
and I was also aware that William and Jane Poole/ Pole had a son
Theophilus born at Dorchester in New England:
http://books.google.com/books?vid=00ZRm_VsjlGwwjNxxh&id=VKfqhGUdILEC&pg=PA7&lpg=PA7&dq=theophilus+pole
(The library of Rev. Gale eventually made its way to Harvard College
[see note at the end of his will]).
It all fits together quite nicely when we learn that Theophilus Gale
was born in 1628 at King's Teignton, Devonshire, son of an earlier
Theophilus Gale:
http://books.google.com/books?vid=0Ccllg1IbAksvgqL&id=DSgAAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA171&lpg=PA171&dq=theophilus+gale
I can't do any searches currently on the LDS website due to "website
maintenance," but I checked earlier, and at some location in
Devonshire
we find extracted records for:
1602 Marriage of John Greene and --- Walrond [remember the Visitation
pedigree showed John Greene of Milton, Somerset, married to Cecily
Walrond]
1622 Marriage of Theophilus Gale to Bridget Walrond
At a separate location in Devonshire, we find an extracted record for
the 1647 marriage of Katherine Gale to Henry Northcott.
I think these facts together almost certainly prove the ancestry of
Mrs. Jane Poole of New England.