Mawd, Mawde, Maud, Maude, Mahaut, Montealto name in Yorkshire

[Steve Riggan]

Dear Newsgroup:
I am researching the Maud family of Yorkshire (other spellings Maude, Mawd, Mawde, Mahault, Montealto, Montalt, etc.). My ancestors Abraham Shaw and his wife Bridget Best of Halifax, Yorkshire were both descended from this family.
Abraham's mother, Elizabeth Longbotham/Longbottom was the daughter of Brian Longbotham and Alice Mawd who married 15 Jan 1559 Northowram, Yorkshire. Alice died 12 Jan 1572 at Northowram. I have not been able to link Alice to any of the Maud families in the area as of yet.
Abraham's wife, Bridget Best, was the daughter of Henry Best and Grace Boithes. Henry was the son of Henry Best and Margareta Maud/Mawd who married 26 Oct 1552 Halifax, Yorkshire. Margareta is stated to be the daughter of John/Johis Mawd/Maude who was born around 1502 and died before 1559 per secondary source. I have not been able to locate a will for him yet. It would seem that Margareta Mawd Best and Alice Mawd Longbotham would be related in some way but I have found nothing to link these women back into the larger Mawd/Maud family.
Many researchers have stated on other forums that the Maude/Mawd lines are very unclear. Even some of Burke's entries on the family are blatantly erroneous, so I am hoping that members of the group might be able to point me in the right direction or have experience with this family while researching other Yorkshire gentry families. They appear on many records with other families in the local gentry but I haven't established yet if they are acquaintances, neighbors or relatives to these other families.
Thank you.
Steve Riggan

[Wjhonson]

What evidence do you have that the Mawde family is a variant spelling of the Montealto family?

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[J.C.B.Sharp]

In article <mailman.8.134386489...@rootsweb.com>,
wjho...@aol.com (Wjhonson) wrote:

> *From:* Wjhonson <wjho...@aol.com>
> *To:* sri...@hotmail.com, gen-me...@rootsweb.com
> *Date:* Wed, 1 Aug 2012 19:48:09 -0400 (EDT)

Christopher Monteald alias Mawde - 1555 fine (George Redmonds, Yorkshire
West Riding, English Surname Series, 1973, 24).

J.C.B.Sharp
London

[Robert Bank]

Wjhonson asks: What evidence do you have that the Mawde family is a variant spelling of the Montealto family?

Extract from “Early Yorkshire Charters, Volume 7: The Honour of Skipton” by William Farrer, pp. 252 – 256.


§16. THE MOHAUT FEE

The 3 carucates of new feoffment held by Simon de Munthalt in 1166 lay in East and West Morton and Riddlesden, par. Bingley. In 1284-85 the heirs of Simon de Monte Alto held Morton for 2½ carucates, 14 carucates making a knight's fee, of the honour of Skipton in Craven by knight-service, and rendering 12d. yearly to the wapentake of Skyrack. In 1287 John de Martheley (the husband of one of the heirs; see below) held 3 carucates of Skipton castle. In 1302-03 the heirs of Morton, i.e. the heirs of the Mohaut family, held 2½ carucates in Morton. In 1314 Peter de Martheley held of Robert de Clifford 3 carucates in Riddlesden; and in 1362 Peter de Martheley held of Isabel widow of Robert de Clifford lands in Morton and Riddlesden, rendering payments due from 3 carucates.

The Mohaut family also held a tenancy of the fee which passed to Avice wife of William de Curcy II. In 1166 Simon de Monte Alto held half a knight's fee of William de Curcy III, which consisted of land in East Keswick and Wike, members of the lordship of Harewood. A further tenancy was held of the Percy fee in Horton in Gisburn, where in 1302-03 2 bovates were held by the abbot of Sallay of the heir “de Monte Alto.''

The ancestor of the Mohaut family, which in later days took the name of Maude, was a certain Gospatric, of whom nothing appears to be known. He had two sons, Simon and Adam. It is probable that Adam was the younger and was enfeoffed of land in Riddlesden by his father or his elder brother. He was a benefactor of Kirkstall abbey, his gift being confirmed by his son Richard. He can probably be identified as the Adam de Muhalt who in 1166 owed a mark, Simon de Muhalt owing 20s., being two of a large number of men of the wapentake of Skyrack present in the court of Malger the clerk, when the latter caused two duels to be fought by one man on one day. He was also perhaps the Adam de Monte Alto who witnessed a charter of Simon de Monte Alto to Sinningthwaite priory, c. 1170-1185.

Described as Simon son of Gospatric, Simon de Mohaut I witnessed charters issued by Cecily de Rumilly and William son of Duncan to Embsay priory, 1135-54; as Simon de Mohaut, with Simon his son, lie witnessed a charter of Alice de Rumilly to Pontefract priory, 1152-54 (no. 16), and, without his son, a charter of hers to Embsay, c. 1155 (no. 17).

The appearance of the younger Simon as early as 1154 raises a difficult question in determining the generations of the family. It is not easy to suppose that lie can be identified with the Simon, who, as will be rioted below, died between 1226 and 1229; and the solution suggests itself that there were three Simons who held the fee in the period 1154 to 1226. There is, however, good evidence, from the case of 1246 quoted below, that the Simon who died 1226-29 held the fee temp. Richard I; and some evidence that he held it before 1190, his charter referring to Adam son of Gospatric as his uncle. This certainly points to his being the son of Simon son of Gospatric. The balance of probabilities, therefore, favours the solution that in 1154 the younger Simon was quite a young boy, witnessing with his father, and that he lived to an advanced age.

There is no evidence as to which Simon held the fee in 1166; but it seems likely that it was the elder Simon, son of Gospatric. The gift of Simon de Muhalt of 2 bovates of land in 'Co'sehist' to Pontefract priory was included in the confirmation charter of archbishop Theobald, 1153-54.2 With the consent of Maud his wife and his heirs Simon and Robert he gave 2 bovates of land from his demesne in [East] Keswick to the same house by a charter witnessed by William de Harewde his nepos and Henry his (the donor's) son. With the consent of Maud his wife and his heirs Simon de Muhald enfeoffed a certain Robert son of Ralph of a carucate of land in Horton [in Gisburn]. His gift to Sinningthwaite priory of a carucate in Tockwith with his daughters, when they took the veil, was confirmed by Simon his son. His son Robert, mentioned above, who was living in 1190, witnessed a charter to Esholt priory with his brother Simon de Mohaut II, 1185-c. 1215; and his son Henry similarly witnessed a charter to Sinningthwaite priory, c. 1190-1220. He had a daughter Alice, who with her husband named James was a benefactor of Sinningthwaite.

It is probable that the younger Simon succeeded his father late in the reign of Henry II; he was perhaps the Simon de Multhalt who was amerced half a mark in Yorkshire in 1180. Simon de Mohaut II confirmed the gift of his uncle Adam son of Gospatric to Kirkstall abbey, and made further gifts. He gave to Pontefract priory 2 bovates in East Keswick in exchange for those which Simon his father had given, mentioning the land of Robert his brother there, 1185-1200. In 1197 he maintained his right to his tenure of 8 carucates in Wike and East Keswick against Alice de Curcy and her husband, who claimed them as demesne, a settlement for his tenure of the land for the service of half a knight's fee being made by fine. On 13 April 1226 a settlement by fine was made of the manor of Riddlesden, which Simon was then holding for life only, and of which he had given 15 bovates to James and Simon his sons; Simon was to hold for life with reversion to William de Mohaut (his eldest son), a rent of 6 marks being provided for James and the younger Simon. Simon's gift of the tithe of Riddlesden to Bingley church was witnessed by Sir William and Sir Henry his sons and Robert his brother; and he had another son named Richard. He was buried at Fountains abbey. His wife was named Clarice, described as dame Clarice de Riddlesden in a charter of their daughter Isabel, wife of William le Gentill. In 1229, as Simon's widow, she was plaintiff in an assize of novel disseisin concerning a tenement in Riddlesden; and in 1231 a fine was levied to settle her claim for dower in West Morton against Richard de Mohaut. In 1230 William de Mohaut, his son and successor, was dead, and Simon son and heir of William, then under age and in the wardship of Brian de Insula, was impleaded by James de Mohaut and Simon his brother for 6 marks rent in Riddlesden. Further details relating to the family are given in a plea of 1246 when Simon de Mohaut [III] claimed 4 bovates of land in East Keswick against Walter de Scoteny and Alice his wife, Maud her sister, and Reimbald de Montibus and Margery another sister, stating that the land had been held by Simon [II] temp. Richard I, from whom it descended to William his son and heir, and so to the plaintiff as son and heir; but the defendants asserted that Simon [II] had a daughter Alice, who was given the land by her father in marriage, and after the death of Ralph Mauleverer her husband enfeoffed Hugh her brother of one moiety and Richard her brother, father of the said Alice, Maud and Margery, of the other moiety.

In 1254 Simon de Mohaut III had a grant of free warren in Riddlesden, East Keswick, Oakworth, par. Keighley, and Hainworth, par. Bingley. He was living in 1279; and died shortly afterwards, leaving seven daughters as his coheirs. They were Alice who married John de Martheley, Elizabeth who married William de Langefeld, [?] Mary who married Thomas de Dayville, Sarra who married Thomas de Eltoft, Maud who married Nicholas de Ilketon, Ismania who married Gerard de Collura, and Joan who married Henry de Ecclesley. In 1283 John de Martelay held part of a knight's fee of the honour of Skipton; and in 1287 as John de Martheley he held 3 carucates of the castle. Peter de Martheley, who held 3 carucates in Riddlesden in 1314 represented the first of the coheirs. In 1316 he and Ralph de Ilketon were returned as lords of Morton. In 1346 the heirs of Morton, namely Peter de Marlay, Brian de Thornhill, Robert Ekkeleshay and Ralph de Ilketon held 2½ carucates in Morton.


Hope that helps – Robert Bank

[madscientist66]

Hi Steve, it's very probable that we're distant cousins since I am related to the Maude's as well. I descend from the Maude's of Wakefield, who are related to the Maude's of Northowram, Halifax etc etc. I'm also a descendant of the Maude's of Ilkley and through them to the early Maude's/Montalt/Monte Alto family. The Maude pedigrees are a nightmare to figure out. The problem being there are that many Maude/Mawd/Mawde families in the Halifax, Wakefield and related districts that it's very hard to discern family relationships. Details can be quite sketchy, as you've no doubt found out to your horror!!! :) I'm a member of a group of cousins who are all related through blood to the Maude Family, who are studying this genealogical mess and trying to make sense of it. We have a lot of info on the families. If you're still looking for Maude wills, check out Yorkshire Wills Index. That'll give you some pointers in the right direction. I wouldn't worry about Burke's or any of those books...they're a waste of time for the most part where this family is concerned. It's probably going to take many years to figure out what is going on and there's a possibility it'll probably be our kids and grandkids that will eventually sort this out!!!. But, in the meantime, we can have the fun of untying all the knots in the family rope, so to speak :)

Cheers,

Carl.

[William Earl Haskell]

madscientist66 wrote:
> On Thursday, 2 August 2012 09:46:41 UTC+10, Steve Riggan wrote:
>> Dear Newsgroup:
>>
>> I am researching the Maud family of Yorkshire (other spellings
>> Maude, Mawd, Mawde, Mahault, Montealto, Montalt, etc.). My
>> ancestors Abraham Shaw and his wife Bridget Best of Halifax,
>> Yorkshire were both descended from this family.
>>

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My grandmother's family spelled y\their name as Maud, without the final
e - part of the Co. Wexford, Ireland, branch that is such a nightmare to
get straight, due to the lack of much in the way of proper records from
the 18th century. It doesn't help much that nearly everyone is named
Robert, either.

OK

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[nasca...@gmail.com]

On Wednesday, August 1, 2012 at 6:46:41 PM UTC-5, Steve Riggan wrote:

i can help with this family come to engaland is my family search i am doing also ok

[nasca...@gmail.com]

On Wednesday, August 1, 2012 at 6:46:41 PM UTC-5, Steve Riggan wrote:

[nasca...@gmail.com]

On Wednesday, August 1, 2012 at 6:46:41 PM UTC-5, Steve Riggan wrote:

lord

[whsnai...@gmail.com]

During the early 19th century three Robert Mauds, born during the late 18th century and all apparently from Co. Wexford, arrived in Leeds Co., Ontario - one in Lansdowne Township, one in Bastard Township and the third, my grandmother Mabel Maud's ancestor, in Elizabethtown Township. You're not kidding about the mess in regards to the lack of available records.

In 1960, having buried her third husband, my grandmother went on a tour of Europe, which included a visit with the then Viscount Hawarden at his place in Kent, who acknowledged they were probably related, seeing as his ancestors were also Irish (arriving after the Restoration). Ah, well ...

[Teresa Emsley]

I am related to the Mawdes distantly too but i have a weird record Isabella Mawde b1537 married a Richard Lawe b1532 but i am confused that he is also listed as a son of Isabellas father William Mawde, although i found saomwthing about Richards father being a William Lawe but i have hit a major brick wall ijust cannot work it out even then i do not think brother and sister or half sister could marry.