William Bryan / Alice Needham / Hardy / Council
Tanya Marshall
>Seeking information on William Bryan (1655-1742), son of Wm. or Albert Bryan,
>and Alice Needham (1656-1729), daughter of Charles Needham and Bridget Drury.
>William and Alice married 1689 in England and migrated to America shortly
>afterward, settling in Isle of Wight, Virginia. There seems to be some doubt
>(by some) that these people were married. Can someone shed some light by
>giving me an exact date and place? Was William the son of William or Albert
>Bryan? Any assistance appreciated.
Wayne - From THE NORTH CAROLINA HISTORICAL AND GENEALOGICAL REGISTER, GPC 1979, J. R. B. Hathaway, ed., pg. 577:
William Bryan "was said to have come originally from Ireland. He is buried in Pasquotank County, N. C. He married in England about 1689 Alice Needham said to be the daughter of Lord Needham, they had one son Needham Bryan born Feb'y 23rd, 1690, who come from Virginia and settled at Snowfield, Bertie Co., N. C., he md Annie Rombeau Nov. 11th, 1711. She died Jan'y 16th, 1730. Augt 24th, 1732 he married his 2nd wife Susanna Harrell. She died in 1752, then he married 3rd Sarah Woodward. They are all buried at Snowfields." <I typed as seen.>
Needham Bryan and Annie Rombeau had:
-- Rachel Bryan m. William Whitfield Nov 6th, 1741
-- William Bryan m. Elizabeth Smith (daughter of John Smith)
-- Needham Bryan m. Nancy Smith (daughter of John)
There are several pages of descendants of William Bryan, which I intend to unravel and will be very glad to share the data. I have always believed the introduction of the name Hardy (seen in Ed Mann's listing) indicates a tie-in with the Hardy family. I also believe there is a tie-in with the Council family, indicated by the name Council (and of course Edward Bryan's marrying Christian(a) Council). And it has been rumored that this is a royal line, descending from John of Gaunt.
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For reference, I repeat Ed Mann's listing here:
I have this, taken from a privately published book my late aunt did.
Descendants of Josiah Bryan
1 Josiah Bryan b: 1634 d: 1685
+Mary Longhands
2 Council Bryan
2 Hardy Bryan
2 John Bryan
2 Edward Bryan aka: Edward Birand b: 1663 d: 1742
+Christian Council ref #: Ś261
2 William Bryan
+Lady Alice Needham
The source she listed was _Marriages of Isle of WIght Co., Virginia,
1628 - 1800_, p.8.
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ED MANN
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> There are several pages of descendants of William Bryan, which I intend to unravel and will be very glad to share the data. I have always believed the introduction of the name Hardy (seen in Ed Mann's listing) indicates a tie-in with the Hardy family. I also believe there is a tie-in with the Council family, indicated by the name Council (and of course Edward Bryan's marrying Christian(a) Council). And it has been rumored that this is a royal line, descending from John of Gaunt.
Direct Descendants of Edward III of England
1 King Edward III of England b: 13 Nov 1312 d: 21 Jun 1377 ref #:
F229:12
+Philippa de Hainault b: 24 Jun 1311 d: 15 Aug 1369 ref #: Ä103-34
2 Sir John of Gaunt aka: John Plantagenet b: Mar 1339/40 d: 3 Feb
1398/99 ref #: F15:11
*2nd Wife of John of Gaunt:
*3rd Wife of John of Gaunt:
+Katherine Röet aka: Katherine Swynford b: 1350 d: 10 May 1403
3 Joan Beaufort b: Abt. 1379 d: 13 Nov 1440 ref #: F15:11iv
*2nd Husband of Joan Beaufort:
+Sir Ralph de Neville aka: 1st Earl of Westmorland b: Abt. 1364 d:
21 Oct 1425 ref #: W45-7
4 Sir Richard Neville aka: Earl of Salisbury b: Abt. 1400 d: 30 Dec
1460 ref #: F15:11ivb
+Alice Montacute b: Abt. 1408 d: Bef. 9 Dec 1462 ref #: F193:8
5 Alainor Neville b: Abt. 1438 d: Bef. 1474 ref #: F193:6iv
+Sir Thomas Stanley aka: 2d Lord Stanley / 1st Earl of Derby b: Abt.
1435 d: 29 Jul 1504 ref #: F107:9
6 Sir George Stanley aka: K.B. / K.G. / Lord Strange b: Abt. 1460 d:
Dec 1503 ref #: F108:8
+Joan le Strange aka: Baroness Strange of Knockyn b: Abt. 1463 d: 20
Mar 1513/14 ref #: BxP:516
7 Mary Stanley ref #: WMC8:2892
+Sir John de Hardy b: Abt. 1510 d: 1543 ref #: (WMC8:2892)
8 Sir Michael de Hardy b: 1530 d: 1595 ref #: WMC8:2892
+Allison Shelton b: Abt. 1532 ref #: (WMC8:2892)
9 Richard Hardy b: 1567 d: 1645 ref #: WMC8:2892
+Alice Wilson b: Abt. 1580 ref #: (WMC8:2892)
10 John Hardy b: 1613 d: 1670 ref #: WMC8:2892
+Olive Council b: 1615 d: 1675 ref #: (WMC8:2892)
11 John Hardy d: Bef. 9 Jun 1677 ref #: Ś261
+Alice Bennett b: 1640
12 Lucy Hardy ref #: Ś261
+Hodges Council d: 1699
13 Christian Council ref #: Ś261
Beware _Wurt's Magna Charta_. It's occasionally wrong enough to be
dangerous, but not consistently enough so to serve as a reliable
contraindicator. I'd be delighted to have a better source for these.
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FWIW; AFAIK; IMHO; YMMV; yadda, yadda, yadda.
Regards, Ed Mann mailto:edl...@mail2.lcia.com
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References:
Ä = Weis, _Ancestral_Roots_, 7th ed.
AACPW = Roberts & Reitwiesner, _American Ancestors and Cousins of
the Princess of Wales_, [page].
AAP = Roberts, _Ancestors_of_American_Presidents_, [page] or
[Pres. # : page].
BP1 = _Burke's_Presidential_Families_, 1st ed. [page].
BPci = _Burke's_Peerage_, 101st ed., [page].
BRF = Weir, _Britain's_Royal_Families_, [page].
BxP = _Burke's_Dormant_&_Extinct_Peerages_, [page].
EC1 = Redlich, _Emperor_Charlemagne's_Descendants_, Vol I, [page].
EC2 = Langston & Buck, _Emperor_Charlemagne's_Descendants_, Vol II,
[page].
EC3 = Buck & Beard, _Emperor_Charlemagne's_Descendants_, Vol II,
[page].
F = Faris, _Plantagenet_Ancestry_, [page:para].
S = Stuart, _Royalty_for_Commoners_, 2d ed. Caveat emptor.
Ś = Hardy, _Colonial_Families_of_the_Southern_States_of_America_,
[page].
W = Weis, _Magna_Charta_Sureties,_1215_, 4th ed.
WFT = Broderbund's World Family Tree CD, [vol]:[num] Caveat emptor.
WMC = Wurt's Magna Charta, [vol]:[page]