Fw: King Henry IV of England's grandson, Richard of Bedford, Bastard of Bedford (living 1441)
Leo van de Pas
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From: "Douglas Richardson" <royala...@msn.com>
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Subject: King Henry IV of England's grandson, Richard of Bedford, Bastard of
Bedford (living 1441)
Dear Newsgroup ~
King Henry IV of England had but one legitimate grandchild, King Henry
VI of England, but five known illegitimate grandchildren, one of whom
was Richard of Bedford, otherwise known as "the Bastard of Bedford."
Scant attention has been paid to Richard of Bedford in the history
books.
========== For completeness sake, I do appreciate this attempt by
Richardson.
He says that Richard of Bedford is ignored by history. In 1978 Cahiers de
Saint Louis mentions him but as Richard batard de Lancastre. He (and his
illegitimate sister/half-sister) has a footnote : Voir : "My Lord of
Bedford", par E. Williams, (Londres, 1963.)
I have no access to this publiscation, but it would be interesting to see
how Richard is being ignored by history, ignoring which takes a publication
45 years ago.
Richardson has already been shown up having wrong the number of legitimate
grandchildren of Henry IV. I wonder whether he can tell who is the fifth
illegitimate grandchild.
1.Thomas of Clarence has one bastard Jean de Clarence Langlee, he married
and had children
2.John of Bedford had two bastards Richard batard de Lancastre and Marie
who married and had children
3.Humphrey of Gloucester was father of Antigone bastard of Gloucester who
marrie and had children
This makes four. Who was the fifth?
With best wishes
Leo van de Pas,
Canberra, Australia
Richard of Bedford was an illegitimate son of John of Lancaster, K.B.,
K.G., Duke of Bedford, Regent of France, Admiral of England, the third
surviving son of King Henry IV of England. The identity of his mother
is not known. Research indicates that Richard of Bedford was
legitimated by his cousin, King Henry VI of England, 30 August 1434,
which act was recorded at the tabellionage in Rouen, France 27
September 1435 [Reference: Beaurepaire, Fondations Pieuses du Duc de
Bedford à Rouen (Bibliothèque de l'Ecole des Chartes 34) (1873): 6,
12, 30].
"Richard the bastard of Bedford" was a legatee in the 1435 will of his
father, John, Duke iof Bedford, who bequeathed him the castle and
lordship of Haye-du-Puits (Manche), France [Reference: Nicolas,
Testamenta Vetusta 1 (1826): 241-243 (will of John, Duke of
Bedford)]. This item may be viewed at the following weblink:
In 1436, as "Richard Bedford, bastard of Bedford," he was made
honorary member of the Guild of Merchant Taylors of London [Reference:
Memorials of the Guild of Merchant Taylors of the Fraternity of St.
John the Baptist in the City of London (1875): 619]. See the
following weblink for that record:
http://books.google.com/books?id=uspNAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA619&dq=%22Bastard+of+Bedford%22
The last definite record I have of Richard Bastard of Bedford is dated
5 November 1440-1, when he was granted letters of attorney, he then
going abroad [Reference: Annual Report of the Deputy Keeper, 48
(1887): 340]. This record may be viewed at the following weblink:
http://books.google.com/books?id=dAQrAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA340&dq=%22Bastard+of+Bedford%22
Lastly, he may possibly be the "Ric' Bastard of Bedford." who
witnessed the 1453 will of John Fisher, of Fulham, Bedfordshire
[Reference: Pubs. Bedfordshire Hist. Rec. Soc. 14 (1931): 126-127
(abstract of will of John Fisher).]. A snippet view of this item may
be viewed at the following weblink:
Richard of Bedford's subsequent history is unknown.
Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah
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Peter Stewart
"Leo van de Pas" <leov...@netspeed.com.au> wrote in message
news:mailman.388.12049636...@rootsweb.com...
Humphrey of Gloucester also had a son, named Arthur, who evidenctly died
young.
Apart from the biography of John, duke of Bedford, by Ethel Williams,
mentioned by Leo, and other studies of the same subject, it's not clear to
me why history books should pay more than "scant attention" to his bastard
son Richard.
It rather appears, as usual, that Scant attention has been paid to the
history books by Richardson.
Peter Stewart