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Genealogics Additions: Additional Edward III Descents for the Duke of Bedford
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Brad Verity
Feb 10, 2013, 2:18:18 PM2/10/13
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One of the ancestors of the current (15th) Duke of Bedford is
Elizabeth Anne Rawdon, wife of Lord William Russell, and granddaughter
of the 1st Earl of Moira & his third wife Lady Elizabeth Hastings. Leo
has a thorough ancestry on Elizabeth Rawdon's paternal side: through
her Hastings grandmother she descends from Henry VII. But Leo has her
mother in his database with no dates or parents, here:
http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00081165&tree=LEO
Elizabeth Rawdon's mother was Fanny Hall-Stevenson, born at Skelton
Castle, Yorkshire 21 December 1774, and died January 1850, buried Old
All Saints Church, Skelton-in-Cleveland, Yorkshire. Fanny married Hon.
John Theophilus Rawdon of Bolney Court on 13 December 1792, and had
two daughters with him: Elizabeth Anne, born 2 October 1793, and
Frances Charlotte Rawdon, born 2 February 1795, who apparently died
young.
Fanny Hall-Stevenson's 18 separate lines of descent from Edward III
are given below, with links to the most recent individuals in Leo's
database for each.
Edward III had 2 sons - A1 & N1 (see below)
A1) John of Gaunt, 1st Duke of Lancaster (1340-1399) had 2 daus, A2 &
M2 (see below), & a son K2 (see below)
A2) Joan Beaufort (c.1377-1440), who had 3 daus, A3, C3 & H3, & a son
I3 (see below)
A3) Elizabeth Ferrers (1393-1434) m. John, 4th Lord Greystoke (c.
1390-1436), and had a dau A4 & a son B4 (see below)
A4) Eleanor Greystoke m. Sir Ralph Eure, Heir of Witton Castle (d.
1461), and had
A5) Sir William Eure of Witton Castle (1440-1484) m. 1) Margaret
Constable, and had
A6) Sir Ralph Eure of Witton Castle (d. 1539) m. 2) Agnes Constable,
and had
A7) Joan Eure m. Henry Pudsay of Barforth Hall (1513-1542, descended
from Edward I), and had
A8) Thomas Pudsay of Barforth Hall (1531-1576) m. Elizabeth Scrope
(see B9 below), and had
http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00347164&tree=LEO
A9) Margaret Pudsay (b. 1560) m. Robert Trotter of Skelton Castle (c.
1531-1611), and had
A10) Henry Trotter of Skelton Castle (c.1577-1623) m. Katherine Witham
(see E10 below), and had
A11) George Trotter of Skelton Castle (1609-1647) m. 2) Mary Boys, and
had
A12) Edward Trotter of Skelton Castle (1638-1709) m. Mary Lowther (see
I11 below), and had
A13) John Trotter, Heir of Skelton Castle (1660-1701) m. Elizabeth
Lawson (see F12 below), and had
A14) Catherine Trotter (1693-1740) m. Joseph Hall of Durham
(1693-1731), and had
A15) John Hall-Stevenson of Skelton Castle (1718-1785)* m. Anne
Stevenson (see L14 below), and had
A16) Joseph William Hall-Stevenson of Skelton Castle (1742-1786) m.
Anne Foster**, and had
A17) Fanny Hall-Stevenson (1774-1850), wife of Hon. John Rawdon &
ancestor of the Duke of Bedford
B4) Ralph, 5th Lord Greystoke (1414-1487) m. 1) Elizabeth Fitzhugh (c.
1420-1469), and had
B5) Sir Robert Greystoke (c.1440-1483) m. 1) Elizabeth Grey (see C5
below), and had
B6) Elizabeth, 6th Lady Greystoke (1471-1516) m. Thomas, 2nd Lord
Dacre of Gilsland (1467-1525, descended from Edward I), and had
B7) Mabel Dacre m. Henry, 7th Lord Scrope of Bolton (see D6 below),
and had
B8) John, 8th Lord Scrope of Bolton (c.1515-1549) m. Lady Katherine
Clifford (see G8 below), and had
B9) Elizabeth Scrope (1537-1620) m. Thomas Pudsay of Barforth Hall
(see A8 above)
http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00347165&tree=LEO
C3) Eleanor Neville (1403-1472) m. 2) Henry Percy, 2nd Earl of
Northumberland (see N4 below), and had a dau C4 & a son D4 (see
below)
C4) Katherine Percy (1423-1493) m. Edmund Grey, 1st Earl of Kent (see
M4 below), and had
C5) Elizabeth Grey (c.1451-1471) m. Sir Robert Greystoke (see B5
above)
http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00198310&tree=LEO
D4) Henry Percy, 3rd Earl of Northumberland (1421-1461) m. Eleanor
Poynings (1428-1484, descended from Edward I), and had 2 daus D5 & E5,
and a son G5 (see below)
D5) Elizabeth Percy (b. c.1460) m. Henry, 6th Lord Scrope of Bolton (c.
1460-1506, descended from Edward I), and had
D6) Henry, 7th Lord Scrope of Bolton (c.1480-1533) m. Mabel Dacre (see
B7 above)
http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00108634&tree=LEO
E5) Margaret Percy (b. c.1448) m. Sir William Gascoigne of Gawthorpe
Hall (see H6 below), and had a son E6 & a dau F6 (see below)
E6) Sir William Gascoigne of Gawthorpe Hall (1468-1551) m. 1) Alice
Frognall, and had
http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00216622&tree=LEO
E7) Margaret Gascoigne m. Thomas Middleton, Heir of Stockeld (see R8
below), and had
E8) John Middleton of Stockeld (by1522-1565) m. Isabel Middleton, and
had
E9) Anne Middleton m. Anthony Witham of Cliffe (d. 1604), and had
E10) Katherine Witham m. Henry Trotter of Skelton Castle (see A10
above)
F6) Margaret Gascoigne m. Ralph, 3rd Lord Ogle (1468-1513, descended
from Edward I), and had
F7) Dorothy Ogle m. 1) Sir Thomas Forster of Adderstone (d. 1527), and
had
F8) Dorothy Forster (d. aft.1565) m. Sir Reginald Carnaby of Halton
(d. 1543), and had
http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00109359&tree=LEO
F9) Mabel Carnaby m. George Lawson of Little Usworth (c.1543-1588,
possibly descended from Edward I***), and had
F10) Edward Lawson of Brunton m. Mary Copley (1592-1641, descended
from Edward I), and had
F11) Godfrey Lawson, Mayor of Leeds (1629-1709) m. Elizabeth Watkinson
(1629-1683), and had
F12) Elizabeth Lawson (1660-1726) m. John Trotter, Heir of Skelton
Castle (see A13 above)
G5) Henry Percy, 4th Earl of Northumberland (c.1449-1489) m. Maud
Herbert (c.1457-by1487), and had
G6) Henry Algernon Percy, 5th Earl of Northumberland (1478-1527) m.
Katherine Spencer (see K5 below), and had
G7) Lady Margaret Percy (c.1495-1540) m. Henry Clifford, 1st Earl of
Cumberland (see O8 below), and had
G8) Lady Katherine Clifford (1518-1598) m. 1) John, 8th Lord Scrope of
Bolton (see B8 above)
http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00004203&tree=LEO
H3) Mary Ferrers (1394-1458) m. Sir Ralph Neville of Oversley (c.
1395-1458, descended from Edward I), and had
H4) John Neville of Oversley (c.1415-1482) m. Elizabeth Newmarch, and
had
H5) Joan Neville m. 1) Sir William Gascoigne of Gawthorpe Hall (c.
1428-1463), and had
H6) Sir William Gascoigne of Gawthorpe (c.1450-1487) m. Margaret Percy
(see E5 above)
http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00109415&tree=LEO
I3) Richard Neville, Earl of Salisbury (c.1398-1460) m. Alice Montagu
(1406-1462, descended from Edward I), and had
I4) Richard Neville, Earl of Warwick 'The Kingmaker' (1428-1471) = a
mistress, and had
I5) Margaret Neville, illegit. (c.1446-1498), had 2 daus I6 & J6 (see
below)
I6) Joan Huddleston, by 1st husband (c.1480-c.1538) m. Hugh Fleming of
Rydal Hall (d. by1558), and had
I7) Anthony Fleming, Heir of Rydal Hall m. Elizabeth Hutton, and had
I8) William Fleming of Rydal Hall (d. 1598) m. 2) Agnes Bindloss
(1564-1631), and had
I9) Eleanor Fleming (c.1583-1659) m. Sir John Lowther of Lowther Hall
(see Q11 below), and had
I10) Sir John Lowther, 1st Baronet of Lowther (1606-1675) m. 1) Mary
Fletcher (see J10 below), and had
http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00105124&tree=LEO
I11) Mary Lowther (1641-1681) m. Edward Trotter of Skelton Castle (see
A12 above)
J6) Winifred Threlkeld, by 2nd husband m. William Pickering of
Threlkeld (descended from Edward I), and had
J7) Christopher Pickering of Cleasby (d. by1567) m. 1) Dorothy Clifton
(see P9 below), and had
http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00589170&tree=LEO
J8) Winifred Pickering (d. 1589) m. Henry Crackenthorpe of Newbiggin
Hall (d. 1593), and had
http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00232802&tree=LEO
J9) Barbara Crackenthorpe (b. 1582) m. Sir Richard Fletcher of Hutton
le Forest (d. 1637), and had
J10) Mary Fletcher (d. 1648) m. Sir John Lowther, 1st Baronet of
Lowther (see I10 above)
http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00105125&tree=LEO
K2) John Beaufort, 1st Earl of Somerset (1373-1410) m. Margaret
Holland (1383-1439, descended from Edward I), and had
K3) Edmund Beaufort, 2nd Duke of Somerset (1406-1455) m. Eleanor
Beauchamp (1408-1467, descended from Edward I), and had
K4) Lady Eleanor Beaufort (c.1440-1501) m. 2) Sir Robert Spencer of
Ashbury (c.1435-1510), and had 2 daus K5 & L5 (see below)
K5) Katherine Spencer (1477-1542) m. Henry Algernon Percy, 5th Earl of
Northumberland (see G6 above)
http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00002030&tree=LEO
L5) Margaret Spencer (c.1472-1540) m. Thomas Carey of Moulsford (c.
1460-1500, descended from Edward I), and had
L6) William Carey of Aldenham (c.1496-1528) m. Lady Mary Boleyn (c.
1499-1543, descended from Edward I), and had
L7) Katherine Carey (c.1523-1569) m. Sir Francis Knollys of
Rotherfield Greys (c.1512-1596), and had
L8) Henry Knollys of Ewelme (1541-1582) m. Margaret Cave (1549-1606),
and had
L9) Lettice Knollys (d. 1655) m. William, 4th Baron Paget of
Beaudesert (1572-1628, descended from Edward I), and had
L10) Hon. Margaret Paget (c.1604-1652) m. Sir William Hicks, 1st
Baronet of Beverston (1596-1680), and had
L11) Sir William Hicks, 2nd Baronet of Beverston (1629-1703) m.
Marthagnes Coningsby (1643-1724, descended from Edward I), and had
http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00322122&tree=LEO
L12) Margaret Hicks (b. 1673) m. Anthony Wharton of Gillingwood Hall
(1664-1702)****, and had
L13) Anne Wharton (1695-1724) m. Ambrose Stevenson of the Manor House
(1690-1725), and had
L14) Anne Stevenson (1718-1790) m. John Hall-Stevenson of Skelton
Castle (see A15 above)
M2) Elizabeth of Lancaster (1364-1425) m. 2) John Holland, 1st Duke of
Exeter (c.1358-1400, descended from Edward I), and had
M3) Lady Constance Holland (1386-1437) m. 2) Sir John Grey of
Badmondisfield Hall (c.1385-1439, descended from Edward I), and had
M4) Edmund Grey, 1st Earl of Kent (1416-1490) m. Katherine Percy (see
C4 above)
http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00059129&tree=LEO
N1) Lionel of Antwerp, Duke of Clarence (1338-1368) m. 1) Elizabeth de
Burgh (1332-1363, descended from Edward I), and had
N2) Philippa of Clarence (1355-1377) m. Edmund Mortmer, 3rd Earl of
March (1352-1381), and had
N3) Elizabeth Mortimer (1371-1417) m. 1) Sir Henry 'Hotspur' Percy
(1364-1403), and had a son N4, & a dau O4 (see below)
N4) Henry Percy, 2nd Earl of Northumberland (1394-1455) m. Eleanor
Neville (see C3 above)
http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00015423&tree=LEO
O4) Elizabeth Percy (c.1395-1437) m. 1) John, 7th Lord Clifford
(1388-1422, descended from Edward I), and had
O5) Thomas, 8th Lord Clifford (1414-1455) m. Joan Dacre (c.1417-c.
1452, descended from Edward I), and had a son O6 & a dau R6 (see
below)
O6) John, 9th Lord Clifford (1435-1461) m. Margaret Bromflete (c.
1436-1493), and had
O7) Henry, 10th Lord Clifford (1454-1523), had a son O8 & 2 daus P8 &
Q8
O8) Henry Clifford, 1st Earl of Cumberland (1493-1542) m. 2) Lady
Margaret Percy (see G7 above)
http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00002033&tree=LEO
P8) Anne Clifford (c.1496-bef.1546) m. 1) Robert Clifton of Clifton
(d. 1517), and had
P9) Dorothy Clifton (b. 1517) m. Christopher Pickering of Cleasby (see
J7 above)
http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00589169&tree=LEO
Q8) Dorothy Clifford (c.1512-1562) m. Hugh Lowther of Lowther Hall (c.
1510-1555), and had
Q9) Sir Richard Lowther of Lowther Hall (1532-1608) m. 1) Frances
Middleton (d. 1597), and had
Q10) Sir Christopher Lowther of Lowther Hall (1557-1617) m. 1) Eleanor
Musgrave (c.1562-1597, descended from Edward I*****), and had
Q11) Sir John Lowther of Lowther Hall (1582-1637) m. Eleanor Fleming
(see I9 above)
http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00105122&tree=LEO
R6) Maud Clifford (b. c.1436) m. 2) Sir Edmund Dudley, Heir of Dudley
(c.1430-1482), and had
http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00113832&tree=LEO
R7) Jane Dudley (d. 1500) m. Sir William Middleton of Stockeld (d.
1553), and had
R8) Thomas Middleton, Heir of Stockeld (d. 1549) m. Margaret Gascoigne
(see E7 above)
*Writer & poet. Has a bio in ODNB.
**I can find only the name of her father: James Foster (or Forster),
of Drumgoon, co. Fermanagh, with no further details. Her mother is
unknown. So there may be Edward III/Edward I descents behind her.
***The Lawson Visitation pedigree from the 1560s says that George's
mother was Elizabeth, daughter of Constantine Darrell of Wiltshire.
Per the HOP bio of George's brother Wilfrid Lawson of Isell, their
mother was Elizabeth, dau of Sir Edward Darrell of Littlecote
(1465-1530), which is chronologically impossible as Elizabeth Darrell
Lawson lived until 1602. But if she somehow descends from Sir Edward
Darrell & his 1st wife Jane Croft, she is a descendant of Edward I.
****Possibly descended from Edward III if his paternal grandmother
Elizabeth Lambert was the daughter of Benjamin Lambert of Airton Hall
& Elizabeth Clifford, illegitimate dau of the 2nd Earl of Cumberland.
******I'm in the camp that has Eleanor's paternal grandmother
Elizabeth Dacre, as an illegitimate daughter of the 2nd Lord Dacre
(see Generation B6 above)
Cheers, -----Brad
Elizabeth Anne Rawdon, wife of Lord William Russell, and granddaughter
of the 1st Earl of Moira & his third wife Lady Elizabeth Hastings. Leo
has a thorough ancestry on Elizabeth Rawdon's paternal side: through
her Hastings grandmother she descends from Henry VII. But Leo has her
mother in his database with no dates or parents, here:
http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00081165&tree=LEO
Elizabeth Rawdon's mother was Fanny Hall-Stevenson, born at Skelton
Castle, Yorkshire 21 December 1774, and died January 1850, buried Old
All Saints Church, Skelton-in-Cleveland, Yorkshire. Fanny married Hon.
John Theophilus Rawdon of Bolney Court on 13 December 1792, and had
two daughters with him: Elizabeth Anne, born 2 October 1793, and
Frances Charlotte Rawdon, born 2 February 1795, who apparently died
young.
Fanny Hall-Stevenson's 18 separate lines of descent from Edward III
are given below, with links to the most recent individuals in Leo's
database for each.
Edward III had 2 sons - A1 & N1 (see below)
A1) John of Gaunt, 1st Duke of Lancaster (1340-1399) had 2 daus, A2 &
M2 (see below), & a son K2 (see below)
A2) Joan Beaufort (c.1377-1440), who had 3 daus, A3, C3 & H3, & a son
I3 (see below)
A3) Elizabeth Ferrers (1393-1434) m. John, 4th Lord Greystoke (c.
1390-1436), and had a dau A4 & a son B4 (see below)
A4) Eleanor Greystoke m. Sir Ralph Eure, Heir of Witton Castle (d.
1461), and had
A5) Sir William Eure of Witton Castle (1440-1484) m. 1) Margaret
Constable, and had
A6) Sir Ralph Eure of Witton Castle (d. 1539) m. 2) Agnes Constable,
and had
A7) Joan Eure m. Henry Pudsay of Barforth Hall (1513-1542, descended
from Edward I), and had
A8) Thomas Pudsay of Barforth Hall (1531-1576) m. Elizabeth Scrope
(see B9 below), and had
http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00347164&tree=LEO
A9) Margaret Pudsay (b. 1560) m. Robert Trotter of Skelton Castle (c.
1531-1611), and had
A10) Henry Trotter of Skelton Castle (c.1577-1623) m. Katherine Witham
(see E10 below), and had
A11) George Trotter of Skelton Castle (1609-1647) m. 2) Mary Boys, and
had
A12) Edward Trotter of Skelton Castle (1638-1709) m. Mary Lowther (see
I11 below), and had
A13) John Trotter, Heir of Skelton Castle (1660-1701) m. Elizabeth
Lawson (see F12 below), and had
A14) Catherine Trotter (1693-1740) m. Joseph Hall of Durham
(1693-1731), and had
A15) John Hall-Stevenson of Skelton Castle (1718-1785)* m. Anne
Stevenson (see L14 below), and had
A16) Joseph William Hall-Stevenson of Skelton Castle (1742-1786) m.
Anne Foster**, and had
A17) Fanny Hall-Stevenson (1774-1850), wife of Hon. John Rawdon &
ancestor of the Duke of Bedford
B4) Ralph, 5th Lord Greystoke (1414-1487) m. 1) Elizabeth Fitzhugh (c.
1420-1469), and had
B5) Sir Robert Greystoke (c.1440-1483) m. 1) Elizabeth Grey (see C5
below), and had
B6) Elizabeth, 6th Lady Greystoke (1471-1516) m. Thomas, 2nd Lord
Dacre of Gilsland (1467-1525, descended from Edward I), and had
B7) Mabel Dacre m. Henry, 7th Lord Scrope of Bolton (see D6 below),
and had
B8) John, 8th Lord Scrope of Bolton (c.1515-1549) m. Lady Katherine
Clifford (see G8 below), and had
B9) Elizabeth Scrope (1537-1620) m. Thomas Pudsay of Barforth Hall
(see A8 above)
http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00347165&tree=LEO
C3) Eleanor Neville (1403-1472) m. 2) Henry Percy, 2nd Earl of
Northumberland (see N4 below), and had a dau C4 & a son D4 (see
below)
C4) Katherine Percy (1423-1493) m. Edmund Grey, 1st Earl of Kent (see
M4 below), and had
C5) Elizabeth Grey (c.1451-1471) m. Sir Robert Greystoke (see B5
above)
http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00198310&tree=LEO
D4) Henry Percy, 3rd Earl of Northumberland (1421-1461) m. Eleanor
Poynings (1428-1484, descended from Edward I), and had 2 daus D5 & E5,
and a son G5 (see below)
D5) Elizabeth Percy (b. c.1460) m. Henry, 6th Lord Scrope of Bolton (c.
1460-1506, descended from Edward I), and had
D6) Henry, 7th Lord Scrope of Bolton (c.1480-1533) m. Mabel Dacre (see
B7 above)
http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00108634&tree=LEO
E5) Margaret Percy (b. c.1448) m. Sir William Gascoigne of Gawthorpe
Hall (see H6 below), and had a son E6 & a dau F6 (see below)
E6) Sir William Gascoigne of Gawthorpe Hall (1468-1551) m. 1) Alice
Frognall, and had
http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00216622&tree=LEO
E7) Margaret Gascoigne m. Thomas Middleton, Heir of Stockeld (see R8
below), and had
E8) John Middleton of Stockeld (by1522-1565) m. Isabel Middleton, and
had
E9) Anne Middleton m. Anthony Witham of Cliffe (d. 1604), and had
E10) Katherine Witham m. Henry Trotter of Skelton Castle (see A10
above)
F6) Margaret Gascoigne m. Ralph, 3rd Lord Ogle (1468-1513, descended
from Edward I), and had
F7) Dorothy Ogle m. 1) Sir Thomas Forster of Adderstone (d. 1527), and
had
F8) Dorothy Forster (d. aft.1565) m. Sir Reginald Carnaby of Halton
(d. 1543), and had
http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00109359&tree=LEO
F9) Mabel Carnaby m. George Lawson of Little Usworth (c.1543-1588,
possibly descended from Edward I***), and had
F10) Edward Lawson of Brunton m. Mary Copley (1592-1641, descended
from Edward I), and had
F11) Godfrey Lawson, Mayor of Leeds (1629-1709) m. Elizabeth Watkinson
(1629-1683), and had
F12) Elizabeth Lawson (1660-1726) m. John Trotter, Heir of Skelton
Castle (see A13 above)
G5) Henry Percy, 4th Earl of Northumberland (c.1449-1489) m. Maud
Herbert (c.1457-by1487), and had
G6) Henry Algernon Percy, 5th Earl of Northumberland (1478-1527) m.
Katherine Spencer (see K5 below), and had
G7) Lady Margaret Percy (c.1495-1540) m. Henry Clifford, 1st Earl of
Cumberland (see O8 below), and had
G8) Lady Katherine Clifford (1518-1598) m. 1) John, 8th Lord Scrope of
Bolton (see B8 above)
http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00004203&tree=LEO
H3) Mary Ferrers (1394-1458) m. Sir Ralph Neville of Oversley (c.
1395-1458, descended from Edward I), and had
H4) John Neville of Oversley (c.1415-1482) m. Elizabeth Newmarch, and
had
H5) Joan Neville m. 1) Sir William Gascoigne of Gawthorpe Hall (c.
1428-1463), and had
H6) Sir William Gascoigne of Gawthorpe (c.1450-1487) m. Margaret Percy
(see E5 above)
http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00109415&tree=LEO
I3) Richard Neville, Earl of Salisbury (c.1398-1460) m. Alice Montagu
(1406-1462, descended from Edward I), and had
I4) Richard Neville, Earl of Warwick 'The Kingmaker' (1428-1471) = a
mistress, and had
I5) Margaret Neville, illegit. (c.1446-1498), had 2 daus I6 & J6 (see
below)
I6) Joan Huddleston, by 1st husband (c.1480-c.1538) m. Hugh Fleming of
Rydal Hall (d. by1558), and had
I7) Anthony Fleming, Heir of Rydal Hall m. Elizabeth Hutton, and had
I8) William Fleming of Rydal Hall (d. 1598) m. 2) Agnes Bindloss
(1564-1631), and had
I9) Eleanor Fleming (c.1583-1659) m. Sir John Lowther of Lowther Hall
(see Q11 below), and had
I10) Sir John Lowther, 1st Baronet of Lowther (1606-1675) m. 1) Mary
Fletcher (see J10 below), and had
http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00105124&tree=LEO
I11) Mary Lowther (1641-1681) m. Edward Trotter of Skelton Castle (see
A12 above)
J6) Winifred Threlkeld, by 2nd husband m. William Pickering of
Threlkeld (descended from Edward I), and had
J7) Christopher Pickering of Cleasby (d. by1567) m. 1) Dorothy Clifton
(see P9 below), and had
http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00589170&tree=LEO
J8) Winifred Pickering (d. 1589) m. Henry Crackenthorpe of Newbiggin
Hall (d. 1593), and had
http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00232802&tree=LEO
J9) Barbara Crackenthorpe (b. 1582) m. Sir Richard Fletcher of Hutton
le Forest (d. 1637), and had
J10) Mary Fletcher (d. 1648) m. Sir John Lowther, 1st Baronet of
Lowther (see I10 above)
http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00105125&tree=LEO
K2) John Beaufort, 1st Earl of Somerset (1373-1410) m. Margaret
Holland (1383-1439, descended from Edward I), and had
K3) Edmund Beaufort, 2nd Duke of Somerset (1406-1455) m. Eleanor
Beauchamp (1408-1467, descended from Edward I), and had
K4) Lady Eleanor Beaufort (c.1440-1501) m. 2) Sir Robert Spencer of
Ashbury (c.1435-1510), and had 2 daus K5 & L5 (see below)
K5) Katherine Spencer (1477-1542) m. Henry Algernon Percy, 5th Earl of
Northumberland (see G6 above)
http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00002030&tree=LEO
L5) Margaret Spencer (c.1472-1540) m. Thomas Carey of Moulsford (c.
1460-1500, descended from Edward I), and had
L6) William Carey of Aldenham (c.1496-1528) m. Lady Mary Boleyn (c.
1499-1543, descended from Edward I), and had
L7) Katherine Carey (c.1523-1569) m. Sir Francis Knollys of
Rotherfield Greys (c.1512-1596), and had
L8) Henry Knollys of Ewelme (1541-1582) m. Margaret Cave (1549-1606),
and had
L9) Lettice Knollys (d. 1655) m. William, 4th Baron Paget of
Beaudesert (1572-1628, descended from Edward I), and had
L10) Hon. Margaret Paget (c.1604-1652) m. Sir William Hicks, 1st
Baronet of Beverston (1596-1680), and had
L11) Sir William Hicks, 2nd Baronet of Beverston (1629-1703) m.
Marthagnes Coningsby (1643-1724, descended from Edward I), and had
http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00322122&tree=LEO
L12) Margaret Hicks (b. 1673) m. Anthony Wharton of Gillingwood Hall
(1664-1702)****, and had
L13) Anne Wharton (1695-1724) m. Ambrose Stevenson of the Manor House
(1690-1725), and had
L14) Anne Stevenson (1718-1790) m. John Hall-Stevenson of Skelton
Castle (see A15 above)
M2) Elizabeth of Lancaster (1364-1425) m. 2) John Holland, 1st Duke of
Exeter (c.1358-1400, descended from Edward I), and had
M3) Lady Constance Holland (1386-1437) m. 2) Sir John Grey of
Badmondisfield Hall (c.1385-1439, descended from Edward I), and had
M4) Edmund Grey, 1st Earl of Kent (1416-1490) m. Katherine Percy (see
C4 above)
http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00059129&tree=LEO
N1) Lionel of Antwerp, Duke of Clarence (1338-1368) m. 1) Elizabeth de
Burgh (1332-1363, descended from Edward I), and had
N2) Philippa of Clarence (1355-1377) m. Edmund Mortmer, 3rd Earl of
March (1352-1381), and had
N3) Elizabeth Mortimer (1371-1417) m. 1) Sir Henry 'Hotspur' Percy
(1364-1403), and had a son N4, & a dau O4 (see below)
N4) Henry Percy, 2nd Earl of Northumberland (1394-1455) m. Eleanor
Neville (see C3 above)
http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00015423&tree=LEO
O4) Elizabeth Percy (c.1395-1437) m. 1) John, 7th Lord Clifford
(1388-1422, descended from Edward I), and had
O5) Thomas, 8th Lord Clifford (1414-1455) m. Joan Dacre (c.1417-c.
1452, descended from Edward I), and had a son O6 & a dau R6 (see
below)
O6) John, 9th Lord Clifford (1435-1461) m. Margaret Bromflete (c.
1436-1493), and had
O7) Henry, 10th Lord Clifford (1454-1523), had a son O8 & 2 daus P8 &
Q8
O8) Henry Clifford, 1st Earl of Cumberland (1493-1542) m. 2) Lady
Margaret Percy (see G7 above)
http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00002033&tree=LEO
P8) Anne Clifford (c.1496-bef.1546) m. 1) Robert Clifton of Clifton
(d. 1517), and had
P9) Dorothy Clifton (b. 1517) m. Christopher Pickering of Cleasby (see
J7 above)
http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00589169&tree=LEO
Q8) Dorothy Clifford (c.1512-1562) m. Hugh Lowther of Lowther Hall (c.
1510-1555), and had
Q9) Sir Richard Lowther of Lowther Hall (1532-1608) m. 1) Frances
Middleton (d. 1597), and had
Q10) Sir Christopher Lowther of Lowther Hall (1557-1617) m. 1) Eleanor
Musgrave (c.1562-1597, descended from Edward I*****), and had
Q11) Sir John Lowther of Lowther Hall (1582-1637) m. Eleanor Fleming
(see I9 above)
http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00105122&tree=LEO
R6) Maud Clifford (b. c.1436) m. 2) Sir Edmund Dudley, Heir of Dudley
(c.1430-1482), and had
http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00113832&tree=LEO
R7) Jane Dudley (d. 1500) m. Sir William Middleton of Stockeld (d.
1553), and had
R8) Thomas Middleton, Heir of Stockeld (d. 1549) m. Margaret Gascoigne
(see E7 above)
*Writer & poet. Has a bio in ODNB.
**I can find only the name of her father: James Foster (or Forster),
of Drumgoon, co. Fermanagh, with no further details. Her mother is
unknown. So there may be Edward III/Edward I descents behind her.
***The Lawson Visitation pedigree from the 1560s says that George's
mother was Elizabeth, daughter of Constantine Darrell of Wiltshire.
Per the HOP bio of George's brother Wilfrid Lawson of Isell, their
mother was Elizabeth, dau of Sir Edward Darrell of Littlecote
(1465-1530), which is chronologically impossible as Elizabeth Darrell
Lawson lived until 1602. But if she somehow descends from Sir Edward
Darrell & his 1st wife Jane Croft, she is a descendant of Edward I.
****Possibly descended from Edward III if his paternal grandmother
Elizabeth Lambert was the daughter of Benjamin Lambert of Airton Hall
& Elizabeth Clifford, illegitimate dau of the 2nd Earl of Cumberland.
******I'm in the camp that has Eleanor's paternal grandmother
Elizabeth Dacre, as an illegitimate daughter of the 2nd Lord Dacre
(see Generation B6 above)
Cheers, -----Brad
Wjhonson
Feb 10, 2013, 2:43:48 PM2/10/13
to royald...@hotmail.com, gen-me...@rootsweb.com
I think you have transferred the birth year of Mabel Carnaby to her husband George Lawson.
Mabel was co-heiress of her father and "aged 3" in 1545
I don't have a source which gives us the age of her husband
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Olivier
Feb 10, 2013, 4:59:42 PM2/10/13
to
Le dimanche 10 février 2013 20:18:18 UTC+1, Brad Verity a écrit :
> One of the ancestors of the current (15th) Duke of Bedford is
>
> Elizabeth Anne Rawdon, wife of Lord William Russell, and granddaughter
>
> of the 1st Earl of Moira & his third wife Lady Elizabeth Hastings. Leo
>
> has a thorough ancestry on Elizabeth Rawdon's paternal side: through
>
> her Hastings grandmother she descends from Henry VII. But Leo has her
>
> mother in his database with no dates or parents, here:
>
> http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00081165&tree=LEO
>
>
>
> Elizabeth Rawdon's mother was Fanny Hall-Stevenson, born at Skelton
>
> Castle, Yorkshire 21 December 1774, and died January 1850, buried Old
>
> All Saints Church, Skelton-in-Cleveland, Yorkshire. Fanny married Hon.
>
> John Theophilus Rawdon of Bolney Court on 13 December 1792, and had
>
> two daughters with him: Elizabeth Anne, born 2 October 1793, and
>
> Frances Charlotte Rawdon, born 2 February 1795, who apparently died
>
> young.
>
>
>
> Fanny Hall-Stevenson's 18 separate lines of descent from Edward III
>
> are given below, with links to the most recent individuals in Leo's
>
> database for each.
>
>
> Cheers, -----Brad
> One of the ancestors of the current (15th) Duke of Bedford is
>
> Elizabeth Anne Rawdon, wife of Lord William Russell, and granddaughter
>
> of the 1st Earl of Moira & his third wife Lady Elizabeth Hastings. Leo
>
> has a thorough ancestry on Elizabeth Rawdon's paternal side: through
>
> her Hastings grandmother she descends from Henry VII. But Leo has her
>
> mother in his database with no dates or parents, here:
>
> http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00081165&tree=LEO
>
>
>
> Elizabeth Rawdon's mother was Fanny Hall-Stevenson, born at Skelton
>
> Castle, Yorkshire 21 December 1774, and died January 1850, buried Old
>
> All Saints Church, Skelton-in-Cleveland, Yorkshire. Fanny married Hon.
>
> John Theophilus Rawdon of Bolney Court on 13 December 1792, and had
>
> two daughters with him: Elizabeth Anne, born 2 October 1793, and
>
> Frances Charlotte Rawdon, born 2 February 1795, who apparently died
>
> young.
>
>
>
> Fanny Hall-Stevenson's 18 separate lines of descent from Edward III
>
> are given below, with links to the most recent individuals in Leo's
>
> database for each.
>
>
For me, 23 relationship links
http://roglo.eu/roglo?lang=en;m=RL;i=3271167;i1=1909674;i2=3271167;l1=16,17,18,19;l2=0;dag=on
Brad Verity
Feb 10, 2013, 6:43:28 PM2/10/13
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On Feb 10, 11:43 am, Wjhonson <wjhon...@aol.com> wrote:
> I think you have transferred the birth year of Mabel Carnaby to her husband George Lawson.
> Mabel was co-heiress of her father and "aged 3" in 1545
> I don't have a source which gives us the age of her husband
George Lawson was the eldest son of his parents. Their second son
> I think you have transferred the birth year of Mabel Carnaby to her husband George Lawson.
> Mabel was co-heiress of her father and "aged 3" in 1545
> I don't have a source which gives us the age of her husband
Wilfrid Lawson of Ithell has two HOP bios, both of which state Wilfrid
was born in 1545:
http://www.historyofparliamentonline.org/volume/1558-1603/member/lawson-wilfred-1545-1632
[1981]
http://www.historyofparliamentonline.org/volume/1604-1629/member/lawson-wilfrid-1545-1632
[2010]
So I just figured George was born a couple years before his brother.
The 1981 bio follows the Visitation pedigree and states their mother
Elizabeth (who died in 1602) was the daughter of Constantine Darrell
of Wiltshire. But the 2010 bio states she was the daughter of Sir
Edward Darrell of Littlecote (1465/66-1530). I should clarify: it's
chronologically impossible for their mother Elizabeth to have been the
daughter of Sir Edward & his first wife Jane Croft (who died by 1493),
but it is possible for to have been a daughter of Sir Edward and his
third wife Alice Flye (whom he married in 1512). And Sir Edward's bio
does say he and his third wife had one daughter.
I didn't have Mabel Carnaby's birthdate - thanks for that!
Cheers, -----Brad
Richard Carruthers
Feb 10, 2013, 6:58:43 PM2/10/13
to Brad Verity, gen-me...@rootsweb.com
Hi Brad,
re your note labelled with three asterisks, viz.:
"***The Lawson Visitation pedigree from the 1560s says that George's
mother was Elizabeth, daughter of Constantine Darrell of Wiltshire.
Per the HOP bio of George's brother Wilfrid Lawson of Isell, their
mother was Elizabeth, dau of Sir Edward Darrell of Littlecote
(1465-1530), which is chronologically impossible as Elizabeth Darrell
Lawson lived until 1602. But if she somehow descends from Sir Edward
Darrell & his 1st wife Jane Croft, she is a descendant of Edward I."
FWIW
J. S. Dorrill & G.A. Reed. Sir William Darrell of Brodsworth,
Yorkshire, who entered with the Conqueror. A Genealogical Chronicle.
Book 1 (The Families of England), 1992 (1st edn).
p. 3-17
Elizabeth Darell, b. 1492 (source not given), d/o of Sir Edward Darell
(1465/6-1530), by his 1st wife Jane Croft. She bore Sir Thomas Wyatt,
of Allington Castle, Kent, a natural son, Francis Wyatt, to whom his
father transferred the estate of Tarrant in Dorset. (source not given)
I descend from Sir Edward's younger brother, Constantine Darell (d.
1508), of Littlecote, Wilts. (M.P. for Marlborough, Wilts., 1459) (via
his daughter Anne, who m. John Ernle (b. 1460/61), The Elder, of
Fosbury and Bishop's Cannings, Wilts.) This Constantine married Joan
(sometimes called Julia/Juliana) Collingbourne, daughter and heiress
of Robert Collingbourne, Esq., of Collingbourne Abbas, Wilts., M.P.
for Bedwin, Wilts. (1431), through whom that manor passed to
Constantine. (Robert is supposedly the brother of William
Collingbourne, of Lydiard Millicent, Wilts., who was executed for
writing the famous piece of anti-Ricardian doggerel: "The Cat, the
Rat, and Lovel the dog, ruleth all England, under a Hog".)
Constantine Darell and Joan his wife had issue: (Hist. Parl. 1439-1509), p. 259:
"Marmaduke, Constantine, Valentine, Mary and Anne".
Dorrill and Reed, p. 3-20 state w/o source that there was also a son
William who, by a woman/wife other than his wife Joan d. & h. of
William Knottesworth, of Pagham, had issue a son Constantine. Via his
wife he was also the ancestor of the Darells of Pagham. His
granddaughter Mary Darell, heiress to her father Marmaduke, his son,
married another Darell, Edward Darell, 3rd son of Thomas Darell of
Scotney, so the estates at Pagham remained among those of the Darell
name.
All this to show that there are various candidates, admittedly w/o
proper sources, for Constantine Darell father of Elizabeth the mother
of your fellow George Lawson.
Best,
Richard
For the moment, indoors in sunny Vancouver as you may be too!;)
re your note labelled with three asterisks, viz.:
"***The Lawson Visitation pedigree from the 1560s says that George's
mother was Elizabeth, daughter of Constantine Darrell of Wiltshire.
Per the HOP bio of George's brother Wilfrid Lawson of Isell, their
mother was Elizabeth, dau of Sir Edward Darrell of Littlecote
(1465-1530), which is chronologically impossible as Elizabeth Darrell
Lawson lived until 1602. But if she somehow descends from Sir Edward
Darrell & his 1st wife Jane Croft, she is a descendant of Edward I."
J. S. Dorrill & G.A. Reed. Sir William Darrell of Brodsworth,
Yorkshire, who entered with the Conqueror. A Genealogical Chronicle.
Book 1 (The Families of England), 1992 (1st edn).
p. 3-17
Elizabeth Darell, b. 1492 (source not given), d/o of Sir Edward Darell
(1465/6-1530), by his 1st wife Jane Croft. She bore Sir Thomas Wyatt,
of Allington Castle, Kent, a natural son, Francis Wyatt, to whom his
father transferred the estate of Tarrant in Dorset. (source not given)
I descend from Sir Edward's younger brother, Constantine Darell (d.
1508), of Littlecote, Wilts. (M.P. for Marlborough, Wilts., 1459) (via
his daughter Anne, who m. John Ernle (b. 1460/61), The Elder, of
Fosbury and Bishop's Cannings, Wilts.) This Constantine married Joan
(sometimes called Julia/Juliana) Collingbourne, daughter and heiress
of Robert Collingbourne, Esq., of Collingbourne Abbas, Wilts., M.P.
for Bedwin, Wilts. (1431), through whom that manor passed to
Constantine. (Robert is supposedly the brother of William
Collingbourne, of Lydiard Millicent, Wilts., who was executed for
writing the famous piece of anti-Ricardian doggerel: "The Cat, the
Rat, and Lovel the dog, ruleth all England, under a Hog".)
Constantine Darell and Joan his wife had issue: (Hist. Parl. 1439-1509), p. 259:
"Marmaduke, Constantine, Valentine, Mary and Anne".
Dorrill and Reed, p. 3-20 state w/o source that there was also a son
William who, by a woman/wife other than his wife Joan d. & h. of
William Knottesworth, of Pagham, had issue a son Constantine. Via his
wife he was also the ancestor of the Darells of Pagham. His
granddaughter Mary Darell, heiress to her father Marmaduke, his son,
married another Darell, Edward Darell, 3rd son of Thomas Darell of
Scotney, so the estates at Pagham remained among those of the Darell
name.
All this to show that there are various candidates, admittedly w/o
proper sources, for Constantine Darell father of Elizabeth the mother
of your fellow George Lawson.
Best,
Richard
For the moment, indoors in sunny Vancouver as you may be too!;)
Richard Carruthers
Feb 10, 2013, 7:16:52 PM2/10/13
to Brad Verity, gen-me...@rootsweb.com
> http://www.historyofparliamentonline.org/volume/1604-1629/member/lawson-wilfrid-1545-1632
> [2010]
>
> So I just figured George was born a couple years before his brother.
>
> The 1981 bio follows the Visitation pedigree and states their mother
> Elizabeth (who died in 1602) was the daughter of Constantine Darrell
> of Wiltshire. But the 2010 bio states she was the daughter of Sir
> Edward Darrell of Littlecote (1465/66-1530). I should clarify: it's
> chronologically impossible for their mother Elizabeth to have been the
> daughter of Sir Edward & his first wife Jane Croft (who died by 1493),
> but it is possible for to have been a daughter of Sir Edward and his
> third wife Alice Flye (whom he married in 1512). And Sir Edward's bio
> does say he and his third wife had one daughter.
> Cheers, -----Brad
> [2010]
>
> So I just figured George was born a couple years before his brother.
>
> The 1981 bio follows the Visitation pedigree and states their mother
> Elizabeth (who died in 1602) was the daughter of Constantine Darrell
> of Wiltshire. But the 2010 bio states she was the daughter of Sir
> Edward Darrell of Littlecote (1465/66-1530). I should clarify: it's
> chronologically impossible for their mother Elizabeth to have been the
> daughter of Sir Edward & his first wife Jane Croft (who died by 1493),
> but it is possible for to have been a daughter of Sir Edward and his
> third wife Alice Flye (whom he married in 1512). And Sir Edward's bio
> does say he and his third wife had one daughter.
The Topographer, Volume 2
By Sir Egerton Brydges, p. 101
states [to paraphrase] that by his 3rd wife Alice daughter of Fly of
Sussex he had issue one daughter Katherine wife of Francis Choke, who
d.s.p.
http://books.google.ca/books?id=S_YxAQAAIAAJ&pg=PA101&lpg=PA101&dq=%22Sir+Constantine+Darrell+of+Wilts%22&source=bl&ots=qMurVcfzEf&sig=9ecxyp3AQ_sZcYDMdHLU2wopQJY&hl=en&sa=X&ei=AjcYUfj1IaTCigKG5IHIBA&ved=0CKYBEOgBMBU#v=onepage&q=%22Sir%20Constantine%20Darrell%20of%20Wilts%22&f=false
Brad Verity
Feb 10, 2013, 8:25:17 PM2/10/13
to
On Feb 10, 3:58 pm, Richard Carruthers <leliw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The Topographer, Volume 2
> By Sir Egerton Brydges, p. 101
> states [to paraphrase] that by his 3rd wife Alice daughter of Fly of
> Sussex he had issue one daughter Katherine wife of Francis Choke, who
> d.s.p.
>
> http://books.google.ca/books?id=S_YxAQAAIAAJ&pg=PA101&lpg=PA101&dq=%2...
> The Topographer, Volume 2
> By Sir Egerton Brydges, p. 101
> states [to paraphrase] that by his 3rd wife Alice daughter of Fly of
> Sussex he had issue one daughter Katherine wife of Francis Choke, who
> d.s.p.
>
> All this to show that there are various candidates, admittedly w/o
> proper sources, for Constantine Darell father of Elizabeth the mother
> of your fellow George Lawson.
the Lawsons from the 1560s is correct, then.
> For the moment, indoors in sunny Vancouver as you may be too!;)
walk in Stanley Park. Off to work now.
Thanks & Cheers, ------Brad
Brad Verity
Feb 12, 2013, 3:52:30 PM2/12/13
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On Feb 10, 11:18 am, Brad Verity <royaldesc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> I3) Richard Neville, Earl of Salisbury (c.1398-1460) m. Alice Montagu
> (1406-1462, descended from Edward I), and had
> I4) Richard Neville, Earl of Warwick 'The Kingmaker' (1428-1471) = a
> mistress, and had
> I5) Margaret Neville, illegit. (c.1446-1498), had 2 daus I6 & J6 (see
> below)
> I3) Richard Neville, Earl of Salisbury (c.1398-1460) m. Alice Montagu
> (1406-1462, descended from Edward I), and had
> I4) Richard Neville, Earl of Warwick 'The Kingmaker' (1428-1471) = a
> mistress, and had
> I5) Margaret Neville, illegit. (c.1446-1498), had 2 daus I6 & J6 (see
> below)
> J6) Winifred Threlkeld, by 2nd husband m. William Pickering of
> Threlkeld (descended from Edward I)
I want to thank John Higgins for pointing out to me I had an error in
> Threlkeld (descended from Edward I)
my database: Winifred Threlkeld (Generation #J6 above) was not the
daughter of Margaret Neville, the Kingmaker's illegitimate daughter.
Rather she was the daughter of Ellen Ratcliffe, the first wife of
Lancelot Threlkeld (d. 1512). Margaret Neville was his second wife.
We can be sure that Winifred was not Margaret's daughter because
Margaret had been granted some properties in Cumberland by her father,
and has an IPM, here:
http://archive.org/stream/calendarofinquis02grea#page/490/mode/2up
Her heir at her death on 17 October 1498 was her son Richard
Huddleston (named for his grandfather the Kingmaker), who was still a
minor. Per the IPM, he came of age on 11 November 1501, so born about
that date in 1480. When he died in October 1502, his co-heirs were
his two sisters, Margaret Huddleston Salkeld & Joan Huddleston Fleming
(Richard's IPM must be in CIPM Henry VII Volume 3, which isn't
available online). Had Margaret had any daughters with Lancelot
Threlkeld, they would also have been co-heirs, as these were her own
properties, not dower or jointure from the Huddlestons.
I've adjusted my database and made Winifred the daughter of Lancelot
Threlkeld & Ellen Ratcliffe, giving Fanny Hall-Stevenson now 17
separate lines of descent from Edward III.
Thanks & Cheers, ----Brad
Doug Smith
Feb 14, 2013, 8:57:32 AM2/14/13
to
Great work as always.
Do you know the parentage of this Ellen Ratcliffe?
Doug Smith
Brad Verity
Feb 14, 2013, 10:49:17 AM2/14/13
to
On Feb 14, 5:57 am, Doug Smith <smith.doug...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Great work as always.
>
> Do you know the parentage of this Ellen Ratcliffe?
Thanks, Doug. Ellen's parents were Sir Thomas Radcliffe of
> Great work as always.
>
> Do you know the parentage of this Ellen Ratcliffe?
Derwentwater (1422-1495) and Margaret Parr. She was a sister of Sir
Richard Radcliffe (d. 1485 at Bosworth), Richard III's henchman.
Cheers, ---Brad
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