Bernardino Fernandez de Velasco, Duque de Frias, Conde de Haro

José Carlos de la Garza Taméz

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Apr 14, 2004, 1:06:03 PM4/14/04

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Dear readers,

Does anyone have information on the above-referenced individual,
specifically, his wives? I read on the web page for the town of Pedraza that
Bernardino married Blanca de Herrera in 1472. In another web site by Davide
Shamian on Italian Lineages, Bernardino is listed as marrying Juana de
Aragón. Still another professor of history in Texas lists the same
individual as married to Maria Enriquez Sarmiento.

Best regards,

José Carlos de la Garza Taméz

Henry Soszynski

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Apr 14, 2004, 6:01:15 PM4/14/04

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FWIW I have Bernradino 1454-1512, married 1stly Blanca de Herrera,
then Juana de Aragón, (1471-bef 1522). Bernardino also had issue by
his mistress, Inès Enriquez de Segredo.
Hope this helps,
Cheers,
Henry
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José Carlos de la Garza Taméz

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Apr 14, 2004, 6:05:52 PM4/14/04

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Dear Henry,

Encouraging news, indeed! Do you recall any sources for Inéz Enriquez de
Segredo?

Best regards,

José Carlos de la Garza Taméz

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Apr 14, 2004, 9:41:55 PM4/14/04

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"José Carlos de la Garza Taméz" <cdel...@comcast.net> wrote in message news:<_befc.36272$wP1.138167@attbi_s54>...

Nice to see a de la Garza here. (I am descended countless times from
16th century poblador Marco Alonso de la Garza Falcon, originally of
Lepe, Huelva, and founder of the de la Garzas of Northeastern Mexico
-- my mother was born in Nuevo Leon, Mexico.)
According to "Nobiliario Genealogico de los Reyes y Titulos de
Espana", by Alonso Lopez de Haro (1622), Vol. I, page 185, Bernardo
Fernandez de Velasco, the 1st Duque de Frias was married twice: first
to Blanca de Herrera, senora propietaria de Pedraza, by whom he had
one daughter, Ana de Velasco y Herrera, wife of Alfonso Pimentel, 5th
Conde de Venavente. His second wife was Juana de Aragon, who
according to Lopez de Haro was a daughter of King Fernando the
Catholic (husband of Queen Isabel of Castile) and Dona Aldonca Iborre
Alaman. By Juana de Aragon, the 1st Duque de Frias had one daughter,
Juliana Angela de Velasco y Aragon, Condesa de Castilnovo, wife of her
first cousin, Pedro Fernandez de Velasco, 3rd Duque de Frias, but she
did not have children. I am not sure who the Maria Enriquez is you
mention. Maybe she married some other member of the Velasco family.
Best Regards/Mejores Saludos.

José Carlos de la Garza Taméz

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Apr 14, 2004, 10:41:54 PM4/14/04

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Thanks so much for the information. Because you are descended from Marcos
Alonso de la Garza, perhaps you may be able to answer the following:

Marcos' wife was Juana de Treviño Quintanilla. Her parents were:
Diego de Treviño Alcozer and Beatriz de Quintanilla, m. ca 1550. His parents
were:

Diego Temiño de Velasco and Francisca de Alcozer. m. ca 1520. His parents
are purported to be Bernardino II Fernandez de Velasco and Maria Enriquez
Sarmiento. These would prove to be my gateway ancestors but, Alas! I have no
proof other than the speculation by a history professor in Texas.

Your thoughts?

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B.M. Kamp

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Apr 15, 2004, 2:32:49 PM4/15/04

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Subject: Re: Bernardino Fernandez de Velasco,
Duque de Frias, Conde de Haro

.José Carlos de la Garza Taméz wrote:
"
> Diego Temiño de Velasco and Francisca de Alcozer. m. ca 1520. His parents
> are purported to be Bernardino II Fernandez de Velasco and Maria Enriquez
> Sarmiento. These would prove to be my gateway ancestors but, Alas! I have no
> proof other than the speculation by a history professor in Texas.
>

I have a copy of a Velasco table from J. W. Imhoff's Genealogiae
viginti illustrium in Hispania Familiarum, 1710 (!). It lists Maria Enriquez
Sarmiento de Mendoza as the second wife of Bernardino Fernandez
de Velasco Duque de Frias, who died 31 March 1652! Yes indeed,
sixteen hundred fifty two!

Regards to all,

Bert M. kamp

> ______________________________

Met vriendelijke groet,

Bert M. Kamp

José Carlos de la Garza Taméz

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Apr 15, 2004, 5:42:37 PM4/15/04

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Dear Bert,

Thank you very much for clearing this up. It speaks, in great part, to what
Leo v.d. Pas mentioned regarding titles - I should have listed my subject's
husband as Bernardino II Fernandez de Velasco, Duque de Frias, 3er Conde de
Haro.

Regards,

José Carlos de la Garza Taméz

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"José Carlos de la Garza Taméz" <cdel...@comcast.net> wrote in message news:<SDmfc.145339$JO3.85969@attbi_s04>...

> Thanks so much for the information. Because you are descended from Marcos
> Alonso de la Garza, perhaps you may be able to answer the following:
>
> Marcos' wife was Juana de Treviño Quintanilla. Her parents were:
> Diego de Treviño Alcozer and Beatriz de Quintanilla, m. ca 1550. His parents
> were:
>
> Diego Temiño de Velasco and Francisca de Alcozer. m. ca 1520. His parents
> are purported to be Bernardino II Fernandez de Velasco and Maria Enriquez
> Sarmiento. These would prove to be my gateway ancestors but, Alas! I have no
> proof other than the speculation by a history professor in Texas.
>
> Your thoughts?
>

I had read about Diego Temino de Velasco, but I had never heard that
he was descended from the Fernandez de Velasco family. Lopez de Haro
does list descendants of the 1st Duke of Frias by two mistresses, Inez
Enriquez
de Segredo and Clara de Orense, but none of these appear to be an
ancestor of Diego Temino. I am curious as to your source. (You
can e-mail me privately about this). I can then check directly with a
number of Texas/Mexico genealogists with whom I have e-mailed in the
past.
However, I caution you that some Hispanic genealogists in Texas and
Mexico continue to make ancestral claims to royal lines which have
been clearly disproven (such as the ridiculous claim that Alfonso de
Estrada was
the natural son of King Fernando the Catholic).

As someone with Nuevo Leon ancestry, you are likely also descended
from the first mayor of Monterrey, Diego de Montemayor, and his third
wife, the tragic Juana Porcallo de la Cerda (murdered by her husband
in
1581 for her infidelity). Juana appears to be of royal descent. I am
currently atempting to learn more about the Porcallo family through
contacts in Extremadura, Spain. Juana was likely a daughter of
Mexico Conquistador Vasco Porcallo de Mendoza, second cousin of his
namesake, Vasco Porcallo de Figueroa, who was a conquistador in Cuba.
Vasco Porcallo de Figueroa is the main royal gateway ancestor for
Cubans. (Unfortunately, these two Vasco Porcallos are often believed
to be the same person.) The Cuban Vasco Porcallo's descendants
include the Cuban-born Grand Duchess of Luxembourg (nee Maria Teresa
Mestre).

Many Spanish nobles with royal blood moved to the new world during
colonial times, so it is possible that there are a number of other
such ancestral lines in your family tree. As an example, in Peru, an
estimated 80 percent of those with predominately Spanish blood (less
than 5 percent of the population of Peru) have traceable royal
ancestors. Best Regards