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Gil de RADA and Teresa de BEAUMONT

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antoine barbry

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May 7, 2011, 6:15:01 AM5/7/11
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Dear all,

I am trying to reconstruct a reliable genealogy of the ZUNIGA (o STUNICA)
family.
The first member of the family who would have left Navarra for Castilla in 1274
was Iñigo Ortiz de Zuñiga. He was apparently the son of Ortún Ortiz de Zuñiga
and Teresa de Rada.
This Teresa would be herself daugther of Gil de RADA and Teresa de BEAUMONT who
would have married around 1210-1220.
I have found very few relevant data about this last couple:

- on Gil de RADA. There is one (present in Navarrese documentation from 1226 to
1264) that appears in http://ler.letras.up.pt/uploads/ficheiros/4038.pdf  as
nephew of the famous Toledo bishop and stateman Rodrigo Jimenez de Rada (see
http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rodrigo_Jim%C3%A9nez_de_Rada)  but I have not found
proof that it would be the same Gil de Rada.

- on Teresa de BEAUMONT, I have not been able to find anything useful

Would anyone have some interesting information to share?

Thank you for your help

Regards,

Antoine Barbry

Mara

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May 7, 2011, 1:36:09 PM5/7/11
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On May 7, 12:15 pm, antoine barbry <antoinebar...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> I am trying to reconstruct a reliable genealogy of the ZUNIGA (o STUNICA)
> family.
> The first member of the family who would have left Navarra for Castilla in 1274
> was Iñigo Ortiz de Zuñiga. He was apparently the son of Ortún Ortiz de Zuñiga
> and Teresa de Rada.
> This Teresa would be herself daugther of Gil de RADA and Teresa de BEAUMONT who
> would have married around 1210-1220.
> I have found very few relevant data about this last couple:
>
> - on Gil de RADA. There is one (present in Navarrese documentation from 1226 to
> 1264) that appears inhttp://ler.letras.up.pt/uploads/ficheiros/4038.pdf as
> nephew of the famous Toledo bishop and stateman Rodrigo Jimenez de Rada (seehttp://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rodrigo_Jim%C3%A9nez_de_Rada) but I have not found

> proof that it would be the same Gil de Rada.
>
> - on Teresa de BEAUMONT, I have not been able to find anything useful
>
> Would anyone have some interesting information to share?
>
> Thank you for your help
>
> Regards,
>
> Antoine Barbry

Hello Antoine,
I don't have anything documented on the Gil de Rada you mention or
Teresa de Rada, but I do have another family group later on that could
be descendants of the Gil you mention.

I have a Gil de Rada who must have died before September 1296. He was
married to Marquesa López de Haro (I haven't confirmed her
parentage). They had at least one son Lope Díaz de Rada who also died
before Sept. 1296. Lope married Brunisen of Narbonne and had two
daughters: Marquesa and Sibila. Marquesa López de Rada I believe is
one who had an illigitemate daughter with Teobaldo I of Navarre, named
Marquesa Gil de Rada. The sources for the above are:

On 6 Sept. 1296 a document in the collection Archivo General de
Navarra: Alfonso de Robray governor of the kingdom at the behest of
Marquesa López de Haro and Brunisen of Narbonne designate Rodrigo
Pérez de Echálaz as the tutor of Marquesa and Sibila. Brunisen is
the wife of Lope Díaz, Señor de Rada (already deseased by then), te
legitimate son and heri of Gil de Rada and Marquesa López de Haro.
When this Lope died, he left two daughters who were not of legal age.

THe source for the liaison between Teobaldo and Marquesa López de Rada
is an article you can download:
María José Casaus Ballester "Los Pedro Fernández de Hija y el Espíritu
Cruzado entre los siglos XIII and XIV. The url is:

http://dialnet.unirioja.es/servlet/articulo?codigo=2875410

Good luck with the early Zúñigas, I find them very confusing.
Regards,
Mara


antoine barbry

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May 8, 2011, 4:02:18 AM5/8/11
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Dear Mara,

Thank you very much for your answer.
I also have this family group in my research. My fiancée descends from Pedro
Jordan de Arenos and Marquesa Lopez de Rada. This Marquesa is daugther of Lope
Diaz de Rada and Brunisenda de Narbonne
see: http://www.jaumeprimer.uji.es/cgi-bin/arxiu.php?noriginal=000383
I will be interested in looking at her possible extra-marital relationship with
Teobaldo I !

And yes, the early Zuñiga are confusing indeed... But if I achieve something
reasonably satisfying I will post it on gen-med.

Best regards,

Antoine Barbry


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Mara

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May 8, 2011, 4:52:49 AM5/8/11
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On May 8, 10:02 am, antoine barbry <antoinebar...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Dear Mara,
>
> Thank you very much for your answer.
> I also have this family group in my research. My fiancée descends from Pedro
> Jordan de Arenos and Marquesa Lopez de Rada. This Marquesa is daugther of Lope
> Diaz de Rada and Brunisenda de Narbonne
> see:http://www.jaumeprimer.uji.es/cgi-bin/arxiu.php?noriginal=000383
> I will be interested in looking at her possible extra-marital relationship with
> Teobaldo I !
>
> And yes, the early Zuñiga are confusing indeed... But if I achieve something
> reasonably satisfying I will post it on gen-med.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Antoine Barbry
>
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Dear Antoine,
Thanks for that link on the archives of Jaime I of Aragón. According
to the article I posted on the Hijar, Teobaldo and Marquesa had a
daughter named Marquesa Gil de Rada who was the second wife of Pedro
Fernández de Hijar, illegitimate son of Jaime I of Aragón (his first
wife was Teresa Gombau de Entenza - no issue from this marriage).

Pedro and Marquesa were the parents of Pedro Fdz de Hijar, baron of
Hijar, Urrea and Gaén, born c. 1263, died c. 1322, with issue form his
third wife Sibila de Anglesola.
Best regards,
Mara

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