Lothrop/Aston/Housere
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the ancestry of Rev. John Lothrop, the Plymouth Colony minister. I have been
looking through my files, which include a number of articles written by
Moriarty and, more recently, by Clifford Stott (adding to our cumulative
knowledge additional information on the family of one of Lothrop's wives,
Hannah House). I gather that, though much of the research on Lothrop's
ancestry was done in the 19th century by the untrustworthy Somerby, in this
case Moriarty concluded that this research largely checked out (except for a
mistaken identification of Lothrop's mother).
These secondary sources indicate that Lothrop's paternal grandmother was one
Ellen Aston (d 1572/3, Cherry Burton, Yorkshire), who was purportedly the
daughter of one Thomas Aston of Fole, Staffordshire. Of late there has been
some discussion in this forum about a landed Aston family of Staffordshire.
The Ancestral File, of course, links Thomas Aston to this gentry family, but
we all know how unreliable that resource is.
In my literature search through PERSI, I have not turned up any recent
scholarship on this family. My guess is that someone on this list may well
be familiar with this family.
And while we're at it, the Ancestral File also gives Hannah House some pretty
fancy genes. Has anyone looked into this family any further?
Dave Morehouse
Robert O'Connor
able to collect on the Aston family of Haywood & Tixall, Staffordshire:
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Sir ROGER ASTON, Kt, M.P., of Haywood, Staffs., M.P. for Staffs., 1344 &
1358. M Isabel (M 2nd by 1364 Sir William Chetwynd, Kt., of Ingestre).
Died c. 1362. He had issue: HoP 1386-1421, II, p 80
Sir THOMAS ASTON, Kt., M.P., J.P., of Haywood, Staffs., He was a minor at
his father's death & became a ward of his stepfather, Sir William Chetwynd.
He came of age, c. 1370, & joined the retinue of Hugh, 2nd Earl of
Stafford, probably for the expedition to France, 1375. Assessor of Tax,
Staffs, May 1379. Knighted by July 1380. In the summer of 1380 Ralph,
Baron Basset, of Drayton, retained him as a knight to campaign with him in
France. He was on many commissions between 1380 & 1406. M.P. for Staffs.,
1380, 1384, 1388, 1393, 1399 & 1406. Forester of Cannock Chase, Staffs. By
16 June 1385. J.P. for Staffs., 28 May 1386 to Nov. 1389, 28 June 1390 to
Nov. 1397 & 28 Nov. 1399 to Feb. 1406. Collector of a royal aid, Staffs.,
Dec. 1401. Treasurer of the Household of Edmund, Earl of Stafford, 1402-3,
who was one of the chief casualties from among Henry IV's supporters at the
Battle of Shrewsbury. Collector of Taxes, March 1404. Sheriff of Staffs.,
1409/10. M by Oct 1385 Elizabeth Cloddeshall, widow of Sir William
Devereux, Kt., M.P., of Bodenham, Herts., who d c. 1384. Died 1412/3. He
had issue: HoP 1386-1421, II, pp 80-2 MCS II, p 135 WSAS, XIV, pp 229 &
257
Sir ROGER ASTON, Kt., M.P., of Haywood & Tixall, Staffs., Born c. 1390.
Fought at the Battle of Agincourt, 1415. Mentioned in a Deed of his 1st
wife's brother-in-law, Sir Hugh Willoughby, Kt., of Wollaton, Notts., 24
March 1435. Sheriff of Staffs. Constable of the Tower of London. M 1st
after 1418 Joyce, d. of Sir Baldwin Freville, Kt., of Tamworth Castle,
Warw., & his 2nd wife Maud (See FREVILLE). M 2nd Elizabeth Meynill. Died
1446/7. He had issue by his 1st wife: MCS II, p 135 HoP 1386-1421, II, p
12 Payling, p 85
1.Robert (Sir), Kt., of Tixall & Haywood, Staffs., M Joan, d. of Sir
William Brereton, Kt., of Brereton, Staffs., & his wife Alice, sister of
Richard Corbet, of Leighton. Died 1465. He had issue: Burke's EP, p 74
1a.John (Sir), Kt., of Tixall & Haywood., M Elizabeth, d. of Sir John
Delves, Kt. Died 1484. He had issue:
1b.John (Sir), Kt., of Tixall & Haywood., M Joan, d. of Sir William
Littleton, Kt., of Frankley, Worc. (See LITTLETON). Died 1522. He had
issue: MCS II, p 135
1c.Edward (Sir), Kt., of Tixall & Haywood., M 1st Jane, d. of Sir Thomas
Bowles, Kt., of Penho, Carnarvon. M 2nd Mary, d. of Sir Henry Vernon, Kt.
Died 8 Sept. 1568. Inq. P.M. He had issue by his 1st wife: MCS II, p 133
Faris, p 265
1d.Walter (Sir), Kt., M.P., J.P., of Tixall., Born 1530. M.P. for
Staffs., 1553. Knighted 18 July 1560. Sheriff of Staffs., 1570-1 &
1580-1. M 1st Mary, d. of Sir John Spencer, Kt., of Althorp, Northants. M
Elizabeth, d. of Sir James Leveson, Kt., of Lilleshull, Staffs. Died 2
April 1589. Inq. P.M. He had issue by his 2nd wife: HoP 1509-58, I, p 347
Burke's EP, p 13
1e.Edward (Sir), Kt., of Tixall., Born 1551. M Anne, d. of Sir Thomas
Lucy, Kt., of Charlecote, Warw. Died 1 Feb. 1596/7. He had issue: CP I, p
285
1f.Walter, 1st Baron Aston, of Forfar., Born 1584. Created a Baronet on
the institution of that order, 22 May 1611. He was Ambassador to Spain,
1620-5 & 1635-8. Created Baron Aston, of Forfar, 28 Nov. 1627. M
Gertrude, d. of Sir Thomas Sadlier, Kt., of Standon. Died 13 Aug. 1639.
He had issue: (See Burke's Extinct Peerage, Barons Aston, of Forfar) CP
I, pp 285-6 Burke's EP, p 14
2d.Leonard Aston, of Langdon, Staffs., M Elizabeth Barton. He had issue:
MCS II, p 133
1e.Walter Aston, of Langdon., M Joyce Nason. He had issue:
1f.Col. Walter Aston, of Westover, Virginia, America., Born c. 1607.
Emig. to Virginia, 1634. Member of the House of Burgesses, 1642-3. Died 6
April 1656. He had issue. MCS II, p 133
3d.Frances Aston, M Robert Needham, of Shavington, Salop. She had issue:
Faris, p 265
1e.Dorothy Needham, M Sir Richard Chetwode, Kt., of Warkworth, Northants.
(Died after 1631). Died 1629. She had issue: Faris, p 60 Weis, p 11
1f.Grace Chetwode, M April 1635 Rev. Peter Bulkeley, B.D. (d 1658/9). She
& her husband emig. to America. Died 21 April 1669. She had issue: Faris,
p 60
2b.Richard, of Whorcross, Staffs.
3b.Robert.
4b.Elizabeth, M John Basset, of Blore, Staffs.
5b.Isabel, M Humphrey Okeover.
6b.Catherine, M Thomas Blount, of Burton.
7b.Margaret, M 1st Thomas Kynardesley, of Loxley. M 2nd Ralph Wolsey.
8b.Alice, M John Dodd, of Chorley.
9b.Rose, M Thomas Child, of Ormesley, Salop.
10b. -- , Mrs Dudley.
11b. -- , Mrs Braddock.
12b. -- , Mrs Colwich.
2a.Elizabeth, M Richard Bagot, of Blythfield (d 1485). Burke's EP, p
3a.Petronilla, M Richard Biddulph. 13
2.AGNES, of whom we presently.
AGNES ASTON, M Sir ROGER DRAYCOTT, Kt., of Paynsley, Staffs. (Living
1464). She had issue: HSP Staffs, p 111 Burke's EP, p 13
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This may assist you make your connection.
Best wishes
--
Robert O'Connor
roco...@es.co.nz
Christchurch
New Zealand
Reedpcgen
>1f.Col. Walter Aston, of Westover, Virginia, America., Born c. 1607.
>Emig. to Virginia, 1634. Member of the House of Burgesses, 1642-3. Died 6
>April 1656. He had issue. MCS II, p 133
>
Just a comment. This connection to the Virginia Walter is false. The England
Walter died in England before our Virginia immigrant did. The exact connection
into the England family is not yet determined, though the given name Walter is
not common. The details and explanation will appear in a footnote in the
article on the Seymours to appear in a future issue of TAG, expectant sometime
this year, as far as I can tell.
pcr
John Steele Gordon
Brice Clagett, whose "Seven Centuries," the ancestry of his children for
twenty generations, is as much anticipated as it is delayed, is a
descendant of the Reverend John Lathrop and his wife Hannah Howse, as
are a vast number of Americans including myself. He kindly sent me his
MS on the Lothrop ancestry a couple of years ago.
Clagett gives the parents of Hannah Howse as the Reverend John Howse
(living 1590-died 1630), rector of Eastwell, County Kent, and Alice
---------- (living 1590-died 1640). He carries this ancestry no further,
indicating that, at the least, he does not regard the evidence for her
further ancestry as persuasive.
He gives the parents of Rev. John as Thomas Lowthroppe (1536-1606), of
Cherry Burton and Etton, East Riding, Yorkshire, and Maud ----------,
who died 1588. His first wife was Mrs. Elizabeth Clarke, his third Jane
----------.
He gives the paternal grandparents as Robert Lowthroppe, c. 1513-1558,
of Cherry Burton and North Burton, East Riding, Yorkshire, and Ellen
----------, d. 1573. In other words, he does not accept her as being an
Aston.
He gives Robert's father as John Lowthroppe, c. 1480-living 1545, of
Cherry Burton, East Riding, Yorkshire.
That is the extent of the Rev. John Lothrop's ancestry that Clagett
regarded as beyond dispute as of about two years ago.
If Clifford Stott has written an article of more recent vintage,
extending this ancestry, I would be very grateful to get a citation for
it.
John Steele Gordon
Jay Cary
to our cumulative knowledge additional information on the family of one of Lothrop's
wives, Hannah House)."
Dave,
Might you be able to give point me towards these articles? Thanks.
Jay Cary
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JSGGen...@worldnet.att.net writes:
<<
If Clifford Stott has written an article of more recent vintage,
extending this ancestry, I would be very grateful to get a citation for
it.
John Steele Gordon
>>
There was also an article in TAG, but, unfortunately I do not have the volume
reference.
Dave
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John Lothropp/Lathrop is ranked as one of the four most prominent clergymen
in Colonial America. This book traces his ancestry back four generations, and
includes all of his descendants for three generations, including
documentation for the same. He has one of the most prolific and prominent
posterities of any of the original Colonists. A pedigree included in the book
shows his lineage traced down to individuals of prominence, including
Presidents Bush, Roosevelt, and Grant, as well as Eli Whitney, Henry W.
Longfellow, Joseph Smith, Oliver Windell Holmes, and many others.
See also A Genealogical Memoir of the La-Lothrop Family, E.B. Huntington; &
Genealogical Notes on the Founding of New England, Ernest Flagg
Always optimistic--Dave