NORTHWOOD
Richard Borthwick
John de Northwood (d.1362) of Shalford and Saling, Essex by Katharine
(identified in The History of Parliament as daughter Sir John Aspall of
Stonham and Cowling, Suffolk). What is the source/authority for John de N
dying in 1362 and for his being the son of Humphrey (d.>1340) and Humphrey
being the son of John (d.1319)?
Ian Fettes
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Humphrey is identified as the youngest son of John, in CP Vol ix p 755 note
i (Northwode).
DCR will need to answer the other questions.
Ian Fettes
Brisbane, Queensland, Australia
Replyto:fet...@st.net.au
Paul C. Reed
>dying in 1362 and for his being the son of Humphrey (d.>1340) and Humphrey
>being the son of John (d.1319)?
While trying to narrow down the time frame of an undated charter involving Sir
John de Northwode, John Le Sauvage, Nicholas de Sandwyco, knights, I noticed
the following entry in the old journal The Genealogist, new series, v. 12, p.
31-2. It involved lands in Kent, and was a de Banco suit brought by Roger
Scales, Kt., and Joan his wife Mich. 47 Edw. III, m. 257 ["Pedigrees from the
Plea Rolls"].
The land was held by gavelkind, and thus was divisable among all the male heirs
equally. It shows John de Northwode, temp. Edw. I, as father of John, father
of Roger, father of John (whose younger brother Roger was father of Thomas).
Among other descents, it also shows that the first named John de Northwode was
father of Humfrey, father of John, father of Joan de Northwode who married
Roger Scales.
There is also an extensive article on the Northwode family in _Archaeologia
Cantiana_ 2:9-43 [FHL 3564,363]. This article also gives particulars of the
Common Bench suit Michaelmas term 47 Edward III.
Paul
Paul C. Reed
>There is also an extensive article on the Northwode family in _Archaeologia
>Cantiana_ 2:9-43 [FHL 3564,363]. This article also gives particulars of the
>Common Bench suit Michaelmas term 47 Edward III.
>
This should have read [FHL #564,363].
There was a Northwode genealogical roll compiled between 1385 and 1405, given
in full in this article.
As far as the development of surnames goes, I thought it interesting that this
family traces to Stephen, (apparently younger) son of Jordan de Sheppey [de
Scapeia] by his wife Cicely, daughter of Wlmar. Stephen received a
confirmation on the manor of Northwood by grant of RIchard I, and was known as
Stephen de Norwode, Stephen son of Jordan, Stephen son of Jordan de Scapeia,
and Stephen son of Cicely.
Stephen was father of Roger de Northwode (of age 1247), d. 9 Nov. 1285, father
of John, 1st Lord de Northwode (aged 31 in 1285, d. 26 May 1319. John's elder
son John de Northwode predeceased his father (d. before 8 Sep. 1318). His son
Roger de Northwode succeeded (aged 12 in 1319, d. 5 Nov. 1361) as 2nd Lord, and
was father of John (d. 27 Feb. 1378/9), father of Roger (aged 23/4 in 1379, d.
s.p. after 7 Sep. 1398).
Roger was succeeded by his nephew John de Northwode (son of William, Roger's
brother), who died s.p. 23 Apr. 1416. His male heir was his cousin John
Northwode, son of his uncle James.
There is also extensive information on some of these generations in Knights of
Edward I [HS 82].
Paul
Richard Borthwick
as son of Humphrey and names Katherine as his wife and Joan as his heir.
The other (566) describes him as a knight and likewise names Katherine and
Joan. The latter gives his date of death as December 35 Edward III (1362)
and the former as 1 January 35 Edward III (1363). The most common age
accorded Joan is 8 years of age, though one says she was 4. Along with the
data provided by Paul this goes a long way to establishing this line. [CIPM
11:252, 566]
There remains a problem with the identification of Katherine as the
daughter and coheir of Sir John Aspall [*History of Parliament: The House
of Commons, 1386-1421* (HMSO, 1992) 4:598]. In private correspondence my
attention was drawn to CP X:338 & note (h) in which a Sir John Aspall
married Katherine Pecche (b. about 1339 and was living at the time of her
sister, Elizabth's death (s.p.) in 1361/62) and by her had a daughter,
Merabel, who was her mother's coheir (to Pecche). After Sir John's death
Katherine Pecche married Thoams Notebeme and had another daughter and
coheir, Margaret. If Sir John Aspall is the man in question and the H of P
record is correct he had at least another daughter Katherine who along with
Merabel would have been his coheirs. This suggests that his marriage to
Katherine Pecche was his second marriage and that Katherine Aspall was his
daughter by a first marriage. I have been unable (so far) to test this
hypothesis.