BEAUMONT of Cole Oreton, Leicestershire
Louise Staley
In pursuit of a new line through the Dixie baronetcy I have been looking at the Beaumonts of Cole Oreton,
Leicestershire. With much help from Leo van de Pas I have assembled a couple of Beaumont lines and am now trying to sort
out these queries which I hope someone can help me with.
Sir John Beaumont, 4th Lord Beaumont, K.G. b 1361 d 9 Sep 1396 m Katherine Everingham
They were the parents of Thomas Beaumont of Cole Oreton b 1389 d 1475 who married Philippa Maureward
Now my 1st question:
Does someone have a source for Thomas and Philippa above being the parents of the Sir John Beaumont who died 29 Mar 1461
at the battle of Towton and who married Jane Darcy, daughter of John Darcy, 7th Lord Darcy and Joan Greystoke?
My second question:
Were they also the parents of a Thomas Beaumont d aft. 1495 who married an Anne Moton?
My penultimate question:
Has anyone seen a source or disproof for the following line?
1. Thomas Beaumont d aft. 1495 m Anne Moton
2. Thomas Beaumont d aft. 1530 m Anne Harcourt
3. John Beaumont, bought Gracedieu, d abt 1552 married Elizabeth Hastings, daughter of Sir William Hastings.
4. Sir Francis Beaumont of Gracedieu, Justice of the Common Pleas d 22 April 1598 married Anne Pierpont.
Who in turn were the parents of three sons;
5. Sir Henry Beaumont d 13 Jul 1605, married Barbara Faunt
5. Sir John Beaumont Bart. d 19 April 1627, m. a Fortescue, noted poet, wrote Bosworth Field
5. Francis Beaumont b 1586 d 1616 bur. Westminster Abbey, noted playwright
My last question:
A source or disproof of the following line?
1. Sir John Beaumont of Cole Oreton d 29 Mar 1461 m Jane Darcy
2. George Beaumont of Cole Oreton d 1531 m Joan Pauncefort
3. William Beaumont of Cole Oreton d 1528 m Mary Basset
4. Richard Beaumont d 18 Oct 1538 m Collett Clerke
5. Nicholas Beaumont M.P. b 1527 d 9 Jul 1585 m Anne Saunders
6. Sir Thomas Beaumont d 27 Nov 1614 m Catherine Farnham
7. Frances Beaumont m Sir Wolstan Dixie
Something is wrong somewhere I think because there seems to be a lot of generations in the second line dying between
1528 and 1538 (3). Whereas the first line seems to have no discernable sources for generations 1-3. The sources for
generations 4-5 are largely from biographies of the brothers John and Francis of generation 5.
FWIW the son of Frances Beaumont and Sir Wolstan Dixie in line 2 married the daughter of Sir Henry Beaumont in line 1.
If either of these Beaumont lines hold then there are multiple descendants of the Dixies living in Australia and Canada
and at least a few in England and maybe Wales.
I welcome any comments and suggestions,
Louise Staley
Sutliff
I am finding some difficulty in trying to help you document this as I am
finding a number of conflicts.
For example, John Beaumont, father of Francis, was son of George Beaumont of
Thringstone and Joan Pauncefoote of Hasfield, Glos. (HOP [1509] I:406) and
not Thomas Beaumont and Anne Harcourt. So two lines may have been improperly
attached to each other and confused.
The Darcy male line died out with Sir Philip Darcy, 4th Lord Darcy so it
would seem the designation of John as 7th Lord Darcy is not correct. Also CP
does not recognize a Baronetcy for the Dixie family of Leicestershire. I
know they are covered by Betham, Wotton and Nichols and am wondering why
there is an omission in CP.
Sorry to be throwing confusion in here, but as you have already guessed,
something is not quite right. Most of the information may be correct, but
some adjusting would seem in order.
HS
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Louise Staley
Starting with the Darcy's. My source is AR7 13: 33-34 which says:
33. Margaret de Grey, d 1 June 1454; m. John Darcy (88-35), b. ca. 1377, d 9 Dec 1411, 5th Baron Darcy of Knayth. (CP IV
63-65, 71).
34. John Darcy b. ca. 1400; d. 1458, 7th Baron Darcy; m. Joan Greystoke (62-36). (CP IV 71).
The source for Jane being his daughter is a post by Douglas Richardson where he quoted an extract of his forthcoming
book:
JOHN DARCY, 2nd son, born about 1400. He was heir male in 1418 to his older brother, Philip Darcy, Knt. He married JOAN
GREYSTOKE, daughter of John Greystoke, Knt., 4th Lord Greystoke, of Greystoke, Cumberland (descendant of King John), by
Elizabeth (descendant of King Edward III), elder daughter and co-heiress of Robert Ferrers, Knt., 2nd Lord Ferrers of
Wem [see GREYSTOKE 9 for her ancestry]. They had five sons, Richard, Knt., Phillip, John, Thomas, and George, and four
daughters, Elizabeth, Joan (wife of ____ Beauchamp and Giles Daubeney, Knt.), Jane (wife of John Beaumont), and Eleanor.
JOHN DARCY, Lord Darcy, died in 1458. His widow married (2nd) by marriage dispensation dated 27 Apr. 1458 William Stoke,
Knt. They were living 1471/2.
I've probably called him the wrong thing, hence the first confusion.
On the Beaumonts, if John is the son of George and Joan Pauncefoote, then the first check is for consanguinuity when the
two lines come together, this would make Sir Wolstan Dixie 1st Bart. and his wife Barbara Beaumont, 3rd cousins, twice
removed. On later Beaumonts, as I indicated in the original message, once we get to Sir Francis Beaumont of Gracedieu,
Justice of the Common Pleas, there is evidence to support the descendancy (if somewhat thin) to the link with the
Dixies, by which time they start appearing in parish registers, although the wives need support.
I completely support that John can be the son of George and thank-you for coming up with a source for me to investigate,
that's a big step forward on where I started.
On the Dixies, I think the baronetcy part of the line came from Burke's!! Yes I know, but I had hoped that since we were
talking about the 17th Century by the time the first Dixie Baronetcy was created that at least that part would be OK.
Perhaps Leo has more to add on sources for the Dixies as I have no idea why they are not in CP.
Once we get to the Dixies most of the relevant data appears in the extracted parish records (not user submitted junk) of
the IGI. Perhaps CP could not prove the Beaumont ancestry so left them out. I have no idea what Cokayne's criteria was,
although I have a note where a later Dixie, Mary appears in CP XII/2 711 marrying a Hon. George Cokayne after 24 April
1683.
Back on the Beaumonts, the second Beaumont line I posted earlier today should have some public sources, particularly
Nicholas Beaumont M.P. who I would hope would appear in HOP, except that I can't check it.
1. Sir John Beaumont of Cole Oreton d 29 Mar 1461 m Jane Darcy
2. George Beaumont of Cole Oreton d 1531 m Joan Pauncefort
3. William Beaumont of Cole Oreton d 1528 m Mary Basset
4. Richard Beaumont d 18 Oct 1538 m Collett Clerke
5. Nicholas Beaumont M.P. b 1527 d 9 Jul 1585 m Anne Saunders
6. Sir Thomas Beaumont d 27 Nov 1614 m Catherine Farnham
7. Frances Beaumont m Sir Wolstan Dixie m. 31 Aug 1598 London
So keep it coming, I wouldn't expect to get a whole new link to the medieval period that nobody else has ever posted in
just one try.
regards
Louise
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Sutliff
Nicholas Beaumont (b. bef 1526-d. 1585) is given as son of Richard Beaumont
of Coleorton by Collett, 4th daughter and heir of Richard Clerke of Bucks.
His wife was Anne (d. 1582), daughter of William Saunders of Welford,
Northants. Four sons, including Henry II Beaumont, M. P. The article is
found at HOP [1158] I:416. I would mention that these Beaumonts were related
to the Hastings family (Earls of Huntingdon) of Bosworth, Leic. and North
Cadbury, Som. If you haven't yet checked out this relationship, it might be
helpful to pursue as the Hastings were influential and there may be
something which will further help with your Beaumont identities or one of
the female lines.
HS
"Louise Staley" <car...@bigpond.com.au> wrote in message
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> Confusion Reigns!
>
<snip>>
> Back on the Beaumonts, the second Beaumont line I posted earlier today
should have some public sources, particularly
> Nicholas Beaumont M.P. who I would hope would appear in HOP, except that I
can't check it.
>
> 1. Sir John Beaumont of Cole Oreton d 29 Mar 1461 m Jane Darcy
> 2. George Beaumont of Cole Oreton d 1531 m Joan Pauncefort
> 3. William Beaumont of Cole Oreton d 1528 m Mary Basset
> 4. Richard Beaumont d 18 Oct 1538 m Collett Clerke
> 5. Nicholas Beaumont M.P. b 1527 d 9 Jul 1585 m Anne Saunders
> 6. Sir Thomas Beaumont d 27 Nov 1614 m Catherine Farnham
> 7. Frances Beaumont m Sir Wolstan Dixie m. 31 Aug 1598 London
>
> So keep it coming, I wouldn't expect to get a whole new link to the
medieval period that nobody else has ever posted in
> just one try.
>
> regards
> Louise
>
<snip>>
>
Sutliff
that you use) is as used in HOP, not my invention.
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John Higgins
monograph on the various (British) branches of the Beaumont family. I can't
vouch for its accuracy, especially in the very early generations which
appear to be somewhat forced, but it's at least worth considering. It does
show the two lines Louise laid out, which is also shown as such in BP 1999.
It does not show the version referenced by HAP Sutcliff from HOP (which I
believe I've seen elsewhere as well) - I wonder if HOP has a source for its
information.
The Beaumont monograph also confuses the two Beaumont/Dixie mariages,
marrying both Beaumont duaghters to the same Sir Wolstan Dixie. The Dixie
baronets are covered in BP through 1970 and in CB...no reason for them to be
in CP - they never were peers.
John Higgins
jthi...@surfree.com
"Who begot whom is a most amusing kind of hunting" - Horace Walpole
Louise Staley
Many thanks for this. An enormous amount to digest and I have only
downloaded the 4 relevant chapters! The author of the mongraph was
Edward T Beaumont, also author of "Ancient Memorial Brasses,
Academical Habit illustrated by Memorial Brasses and Three Interesting
Hampshire Brasses", and a member of the Oxford Architectural and
Historical Society. It was written around 1911-1929.
From my initial perusal he appears to have collected a large number of
memorial inscriptions, many now lost, to support his lines. However
not all of his relationships and dates are sourced, making it more
difficult to ascertain their veracity.
As to whether John Beaumont was son of Thomas Beaumont and Anne Moton
or son of George Beaumont and Joan Pauncefort, Edward Beaumont does
indeed place John as the son of Thomas and Anne but does not apear to
offer proof.
On another matter, the suggestion by HAP to look at the Hastings
connection, is mentioned in Edward Beaumont's book;
"He was committed to the Fleet prison and his estates sequestered and
given to Francis Earl of Huntingdon, his wife's uncle, Francis
re-conveyed them to his niece on her husband's death. John married
firstly Isabella daughter of Lawrence Duddon of Duddon, Cheshire and
had issue two daughters, he married secondly Elizabeth, daughter and
co-heir of Sir William Hastings, younger brother of George, Earl of
Huntingdon. Issue two Sons and two daughters." p 154
However this does not appear to add up as if William Hastings is the
younger brother of George earl of Huntingdon then this would make
Elizabeth Hastings (wife of John Beaumont) the first cousin, not the
niece of Francis Hastings 2nd earl of Huntingdon.
Testamenta Vetusta mentions Elizabeth Hastings and John Beaumont as a
note to the will of William Hastings, Lord Hastings who married
Katherine Neville, however this says Elizabeth was the daughter of
their son Richard Hastings rather than their son William Hastings.
It all seems rather murky.
I have seen some PRO entries to do with this John Beaumont's
conviction although not one showing the estates were given to Francis,
Earl of Huntingdon.
There is an entry where Elizabeth Hastings peitions for her dower
lands;
"43/5/35 Parties: Elizabeth widow of John Beaumont Subject:
Proceedings on petition of right for dower Places: Ashburton manor:
Melbourne, chantry: Wigston, Enderby, Thurnby, Bushby, advowsons;
Gracedieu, Belton, Merele, Osgarthorpe, Thringstone, and Swannington,
messuages, lands, etc; Fleckney manor, etc County: Devon, Derb, Leics
5 Eliz I"
and an earlier one where John's assets were valued
"E 36/148 Inventory and valuation of goods, chattels, and lands of
John Beaumont in Notts, Leics, and elsewhere, with correspondence with
the king's council and subsidiary documents temp Edw VI"
regards
Louise
John Higgins wrote;
Louise Staley
> Louise,
>
> Nicholas Beaumont (b. bef 1526-d. 1585) is given as son of Richard Beaumont
> of Coleorton by Collett, 4th daughter and heir of Richard Clerke of Bucks.
> His wife was Anne (d. 1582), daughter of William Saunders of Welford,
> Northants. Four sons, including Henry II Beaumont, M. P. The article is
> found at HOP [1158] I:416. I would mention that these Beaumonts were related
> to the Hastings family (Earls of Huntingdon) of Bosworth, Leic. and North
> Cadbury, Som. If you haven't yet checked out this relationship, it might be
> helpful to pursue as the Hastings were influential and there may be
> something which will further help with your Beaumont identities or one of
> the female lines.
>
> HS
Dear Hap, John, Leo & anyone else vaguely interested,
I have found some supporting evidence for a couple of the relationships in the first Beaumont line I posted, the one Hap
suggested had the wrong father of the John who married Elizabeth Hastings.
However, although there is now more information about the marriages, there is still no proof as to who was the father of
John who married Elizabeth Hastings.
2. George Beaumont of Thringstone married Joan Pauncefort
This marriage was noted by Don Stone to SGM 11 August 1998
"Quoting from Cole (p. 65): [Beatrice] died 7th February, 1516, when the inquisition found that she held the manor and
advowson of Kettlethorpe, held of the Bishop of Lincoln, settled on her for life, with remainder to Thomas Swynford and
his heirs by fine, dated 3rd November, 1468, and that the person then entitled in remainder was Joan, wife of George
Beaumont, esq., niece of Thomas Swynford the son, viz., daughter of his sister Margaret, late wife of Thomas Paunsfote.
The next heir of her blood was Thomas Wodroff, aged 30, probably her son by her second marriage. [The reference is IPM,
8 Hen. VIII.]"
3. John Beaumont, bought Gracedieu, d abt 1552 married Elizabeth Hastings, daughter of Sir William Hastings.
According to Burke's this John Beaumont was a corrupt judge who had to surrender all his manors and goods just before
his death in 1552. These lands were restored to his wife in 1557.
Apart from the two PRO documents posted in my last message:
CP XII/2: 221-222 says "William Vaux, Lord Vaux of Harrowden, married 1stly before 1 June 1557, Elizabeth, daughter of
John Beaumont, of Gracedieu, co. Leicester, Master of the Rolls (1550-1552) by Elizabeth, daughter of Sir William
Hastings. She was buried 12 August 1562 at Irthloingborough."
However there is still no proof that John was the son of George rather than Thomas.
4. Sir Francis Beaumont of Gracedieu, Justice of the Common Pleas d 22 April 1598 married Anne Pierrepont.
I have found no contemporary proof for this marriage although I have found evidence that a Francis Beaumont owned
Gracedieu in 1586;
Reference: 157 DD/P/85/4
Assignment of Lease for £13.6.8. rent: for £166.13.4.: Fraunces Beamounte of Gracedewe, co. Leics., esq. to Robert
Newton of Chaddesdon, gent.:-- one third of the manor of Lytchurche and of all lands of Fraunces and George Babington in
Lytchurch, Chaddesdon, Osmastone and Darby --: for 42 years after the death of Anthony Babington, esq., brother of
Fraunes Babington. Recites original lease for 21 years for £300 and £200 of the whole of the premises by Frances
Babington of Dethick, esq. and George Babington, gent. to Frances Beaumont. Witn. John Drew, Edwarde Sharpe, Bryane
Bewley, Jo. Fowur. 20 Sept. 1586.
For students of history, it appears this Anthony Babington was the one involved in the plot to kill Queen Elizabeth and
put Mary Queen of Scots on the throne. There are other links between the Beaumonts and the Babingtons of this period.
The Beaumont book, described in a previous post, says this Sir Francis was a son of No. 3 above and quoting old
judgements notes he condemned several Roman Catholics to death on account of their religion. This is notable due to the
clear Roman Catholicalism of many Leicestershire Beaumonts. His will was proved 8 May 1598 although I have not been able
to locate it yet online. The Beaumont books says he married Anne Pierrepont.
5. Sir Henry Beaumont d 13 Jul 1605, married Barbara Faunt
Lyson's Magna Britannia, Vol 5 Derbyshire, page 115 has this to say about MI's in the old All Saints Derby; "Bassano's
volume of Church Notes, taken in 1710, before the old church [All Saints, Derby rebuilt 1723] was pulled down, describes
the monuments of ... Barbara, daughter of Anthony Faunt, married first to Sir Henry Beaumont, afterwards to Sir Henry
Harpur, Bart., 1649 ..."
The Beaumont book (p 162) says this Henry was born 1581 and died 10 July 1605 being buried 13 July. It quotes the Belton
parish register as recording "Sir Henrye Beaumont, Kt. buried 13th day Julie Anno Domini 1605 aet. 24." His will was
proved 3 Feb 1606/7 and Beaumont says he left half his estate to his sister, for her advancement in marriage and the
other half equally between his two brothers. The Beaumont book inlcudes Barabara of generation 6 and notes she was born
2 months after the death of her father.
6. Barbara Beaumont bapt. 15 Sep 1605 married Sir Wolstan Dixie 1st Bart. 9 July 1623 at Market Bosworth, Leicester.
Her birth and marriage both appear in the parish registers. Her father is described as Henrye Beamont at her baptism and
she is named as Barbara Harper marrying Wolston Dixie in the marriage entry. Her mother had remarried Sir Henry Harper
1st Bart. after the death of Sir Henry Beaumont in 1605.
The other evidence that Barbara was a Beaumont comes from the will of Sir Wolstan which includes a bequest; "I give and
bequeath to my nephew Thomas Beaumont Esquire." PROB\11\213
The Beaumont Book places Barbara as the daughter of 5. but gets confused about her marriages. Not only does he marry her
to the wrong Dixie but he givers her an earlier marriage to a "Sir John (? Richard) Harpur of Swarkstone DBY" p 163.
This confusion has no doubt been caused because she appears in the parish registry as Barbara Harper.
regards
Louise
Sutliff
I will have another look at some sources this evening. I would mention that
the Babingtons (Chilwell) and Pierreponts (Holm Pierrepont) were from
Nottinghamshire. I will check Thoroton to see if there is anything there.
Hap
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> Sutliff wrote;
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<snip>Harper.
>
> regards
> Louise
>
>