Bellings
Peter Stewart
Catherine of Braganza? (Apologies that he is post-medieval, having died
aged about 90 in 1723.)
He married the queen's first dresser Frances Arundell, elder daughter
and heiress of Sir John, of Lanherne, by his second wife Mary Anundell
(of Trerice), and through their son Richard Bellings Arundell they are
ancestors of the lords Arundell of Wardour, including the line of all
that nonsense about the "100 billion dollar barony" in Baltimore. I
believe they fled abroad after the second Test Act, in 1678, following
the Popish Plot, but this is just about all I know of them - Sir John
wrote amusingly to his daughter after an interview with the queen on
their behalf: "I sayd all I could thinke in your Justification, though
it be a pretty hard matter when she is once warme to get leave to
speake" [quoted in _Painted Ladies: Women at the Court of Charles II_,
National Portrait Gallery exhibition catalogue (London, 2001)].
Peter Stewart
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Peter Stewart
Catherine of Braganza? (Apologies that he is post-medieval, having died
leo van de pas
I feel something is not correct in your summing up.
The Barons Arundell of Wardour are originating from the Arundells, of
Lanherne, in the male line. However, there are a few Sir John Arundells, of
Lanherne after the title of Baron Arundell of Wardour was created and I am
trying to fit them into this family tree. If I find anything I will let you
know.
Best wishes
Leo van de Pas
leo van de pas
I may be getting closer, but not to your request.
The elder brother of Sir Thomas Arundell, 1st Baron Arundell of Wardour, was
Sir John Arundell, of Lanherne, ancestor of the Arundells of Lanherne, and
of Chideocke.
This establishes another branch. Now in The Plantagenet Roll of the Blood
Royal, Clarence Volume, by Ruvigny, Tree LII we find :
The Hon. Elizabeth Roper who marries Sir John Arundell, of Lanherne,
1623-1701, their daughter, Frances 1650-1713
married Sir Richard Bealing (SIC) Secretary to Queen Catherine de Braganza,
and via female linked descendants, we do find the Arundells of Wardour.
Sir Richard and Frances have two children recorded, Richard Bealing,
afterwards Arundel, of Lanherne, and
Mary Katherine (or Helen) Bealing who married Sir John Hales, Baronet and
Earl of Tenterden. This last couple are also shown with two children, the
daughter, Lady Frances Hales married George Henry Lee, 2nd Earl of
Lichfield, grandson of King Charles II. The Lees and the Calverts of
Baltimore are the same family.
If I find more about what you are after, I will let you know.
Leo van de Pas
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Stewart" <peter....@crsrehab.gov.au>
To: <GEN-MED...@rootsweb.com>
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 2:10 PM
Subject: Bellings
Peter Stewart
news:014e01c1ef42$26ba2d20$15718690@leo
> Dear Peter,
> I feel something is not correct in your summing up.
> The Barons Arundell of Wardour are originating from the Arundells, of
> Lanherne, in the male line. However, there are a few Sir John Arundells, of
> Lanherne after the title of Baron Arundell of Wardour was created and I am
> trying to fit them into this family tree. If I find anything I will let you
> know.
First, I must apologise for two versions of my post appearing together -
I tried to cancel the earlier one, with a mistake about the year of
death and age of Sir Richard Bellings/Bealing (I think he was born ca
1623 and died in October 1716).
The Arundells of Lanherne (known as the "Great" Arundells) did not get
along with the more glamorous junior branch of Wardour, and they became
linked again only later when the Bellings' granddaughter Mary married
Henry, 7th lord Arundell of Wardour (died 12 September 1756). Their
common ancestors were Sir John Arundell (born at Lanherne in 1474, died
at Roscarrock 8 February 1545) and his first wife Lady Eleanor Grey
(sometimes wrongly called Elizabeth, born ca 1478, died ca 1506), a
daughter of Thomas Grey, marquis of Dorset & Cecily Bonville, lady
Harington & Bonville of Chewton.
The senior Lanherne branch was descended from their elder son, yet
another Sir John (born 1500, died 7 November 1557) and his second wife
Elizabeth Danet; the junior line descended from his younger brother
Sir Thomas (executed 26 February 1553) and his wife Margaret Howard,
sister of the beheaded Queen Catherine.
Sam Sloan
>Does anyone know the ancestry of Sir Richard Bellings, secretary to
>Catherine of Braganza? (Apologies that he is post-medieval, having died
>aged about 90 in 1723.)
According to the rules as I understand them, it is alright if she is
European Royalty, even if she lived past the year 1600.
Sam Sloan
Stewart, Peter
> -----Original Message-----
> From: leo van de pas [mailto:leov...@bigpond.com]
> Sent: Monday, 29 April 2002 16:13
> To: GEN-MED...@rootsweb.com
> Subject: Re: Bellings
>
>
> Dear Peter,
> I may be getting closer, but not to your request.
>
> The elder brother of Sir Thomas Arundell, 1st Baron Arundell
> of Wardour, was Sir John Arundell, of Lanherne, ancestor of
> the Arundells of Lanherne, and of Chideocke.
Although there isn't a thorough study of the Cornish Arundells' genealogy in
print, a useful start has been made by HSA Fox & OJ Padel in _The Cornish
Lands of the Arundells of Lanherne, Fourteenth to Sixteenth Centuries_,
Devon and Cornwall Record Society, new series 41 (Exeter, 2000). They don't
sort out all the Sir Johns, but they do make one significant correction to
the origin of a major collateral branch over the mistaken JL Vivian in _The
Visitations of the County of Cornwall_ (Exeter, 1887) and the misguided (but
still somewhat useful) John Pym Yeatman in _The Early Genealogical History
of the House of Arundel_ (London, 1882).
> This establishes another branch. Now in The Plantagenet Roll
> of the Blood Royal, Clarence Volume, by Ruvigny, Tree LII
> we find : The Hon. Elizabeth Roper who marries Sir John
> Arundell, of Lanherne, 1623-1701, their daughter, Frances
> 1650-1713 married Sir Richard Bealing (SIC) Secretary to
> Queen Catherine de Braganza, and via female linked
> descendants, we do find the Arundells of Wardour.
This corrects my error in making Frances the daughter of Sir John's second
wife, Mary Arundell. As you found in Ruvigny, her mother was Elizabeth Roper
(who died in 1642).
> Sir Richard and Frances have two children recorded,
> Richard Bealing, afterwards Arundel, of Lanherne, and
> Mary Katherine (or Helen) Bealing who married Sir John Hales,
> Baronet and Earl of Tenterden. This last couple are also shown
> with two children, the daughter, Lady Frances Hales married
> George Henry Lee, 2nd Earl of Lichfield, grandson of King
> Charles II. The Lees and the Calverts of Baltimore are the same
> family.
>
> If I find more about what you are after, I will let you know.
The suggestion has been made off-list that Sir Richard Bellings might have
been a baronet, from a family established in Ireland - does anyone have the
Complete Baronetage handy to check this?
Peter Stewart
leo van de pas
There is Beale in Kent
and there are
Bellew
Bellingham
Bellot
Belshes
Sorry.
Best wishes
Leo van de Pas
Reedpcgen
I finally had a chance to check Arcgdall's Lodg'e Irish Peerage 4:67-8.
It states that Sir RIchard Bealing, Secretery and Treasurer of the household of
Charles II's wife, m. Dec. 1670 Frances Arundel, daughter and heir of Sir John.
Sir Richard Bealing was eldest son and heir of Sir Richard Bealing of
Tirrelston, co. Dublin, d. Sep. 1677, by his wife Margaret Butler (m. July
1631), daughter of Richard Butler, 3rd Viscount Mountgaret, by his first wife
Margaret O'Neile, daughter of Hugh O'Neile, Earl of Tyrone.
Sir Richard was son of Sir Henry Bealing of Killessin, or Killessy, co.
Kildare, by his wife Maud.
There are some funeral entries (e.g., for Margaret Butler, which should name
Sir RIchard as her son) on microfilm here at the FHL.
Cheers!
Paul