Complete Peerage Addition: Hugh de Strauley (or Strelley), Esq., and his wife, Joyce Wykes
Douglas Richardson
Complete Peerage, 9 (1936): 85-86 (sub Montagu) has a good account of
the history of Edward de Montagu, Knt., Lord Montagu (died 1361), who
was the husband of Alice of Norfolk, younger daughter and co-heiress
of Thomas of Brotherton, Knt., Earl of Norfolk, Marshal of England.
Thomas of Brotherton was in turn the well known younger son of King
Edward I of England. Although the issue of Sir Edward de Montagu by
Alice of Norfolk quickly died out, Sir Edward de Montagu is known to
have married (2nd) Joan _____, by whom he had a son and heir, Edward,
and two daughters, Elizabeth and Audrey (wife of Hugh de Strauley [or
Strelley], Knt.).
Complete Peerage tells us that the son, Edward de Montagu, the
younger, died without issue shortly after his father in 1361, when
"any hereditary Barony" fell "into abeyance among the surviving
daughters of his father." Actually, unless his father's barony was
settled on him and his 1st wife, Alice, and their issue, the rights to
the barony would have fallen into abeyance among the sole surviving
FULL sister of the younger Edward. Heirs of the half-blood were
generally excluded from inheriting in this time period. This means
then that the younger Edward's sole heir was Audrey de Montagu, wife
of Hugh de Strauley [or Strelley], Knt, which Audrey was aged 2 and
more in 1361 at her brother's death.
A brief record of Audrey de Montagu, wife of Hugh de Strauley (or
Strelley), Knt., is provided on page 85 of the Montagu text in
Complete Peerage under footnote g. There it is noted that Audrey de
Montagu had one son, John de Strelley, born about 1379 or 1380, and
evidently a second son, Hugh. The elder son was evidently the Sir
John de Strelley who was living in 1412. Complete Peerage indicates
that he "appears to have been succeeded by his brother, Hugh," who
allegedly sold the manor of Hazelbadge, Derbyshire in 1420. The
younger Hugh de Strauley (or Strelley) was living in 1424. Whether he
left issue, Complete Peerage says "has not been ascertained."
Recently when I was doing work on the Botetourt family, I encountered
Hugh Strauley (or Strelley), Esq., of Hazelbadge, Derbyshire, which
individual appears to be the same person as Audrey de Montago's
younger son, Hugh Strauley. My research has proven conclusively that
Hugh Strauley, Esq., of Derbyshire, married before 1417 Joyce Wykes,
younger daughter and co-heiress of John Wykes, by Joan Kyriel, grand-
daughter of John Botetourt, Knt., 2nd Lord Botetourt. Thus, Hugh
Strauley, Esq., who was the grandson and lineal heir of Edward de
Montagu, Knt., Lord Montagu, married Joyce Wykes, who was a great-
granddaughter and one of the lineal heirs of John Botetourt, Knt., 2nd
Lord Botetourt.
My research further indicates that Hugh Strauley, Esq., had a probable
son, John Strelley, Esq., who was in possession of the manor of
Hazelbadge, Derbyshire in 1460. John Strelley, Esq., in turn occurs
in a deed during the reign of King Edward IV with his son, Robert.
Thus, Hugh Strauley and his wife, Joyce Wykes, appear to have living
descendants as late as 1461. It is uncertain at this point if Hugh
and Joyce's issue continued past 1467, as in that year, I find that
the other Botetourt co-heirs, namely Margaret (Freville) (Willoughby)
Bingham, Thomas Ferrers, John Aston, and William Berkeley, jointly
claimed the manor of Ashby de la Zouch, Leicestershire, as descendants
and heirs of William la Zouche Mortimer, 1st Lord Zouche of Richard's
Castle, who died in 1337. The failure of the Strrelley family to join
this action does not necessarily prove the Strelley line was extinct
in 1467, although on the surface it implies that it was. The
possibility also exists that Hugh Strauley, Esq.'s probable son, John,
who was living in 1460, was not the son of Hugh's known wife, Joyce
Wykes. Hopefully further research will resolve these minor points.
For interest's sake, I've copied below my current account of Hugh
Strauley (or Strelley), Esquire, of Hazelbadge, Derbyshire and his
wife, Joyce Wykes. As far as I know, this is the first time that
Edward, Lord Montagu's grandson, Hugh Strauley, Esq.,has been
identified as the husband of Joyce Wykes.
Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah
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Hugh Strauley, Esq., and his wife, Joyce Wykes
I. HUGH STRAULEY (or STRELLEY), Esq., of Hazelbadge and Castleton,
Derbyshire, younger son of Hugh de Strauley (or Sttrelley), Knt., of
Hazelbadge and Repton, Derbyshire, Redenhall, Norfolk, etc., by
Audrey, daughter of Edward de Montagu, Knt., Lord Montagu. He married
before 1417 JOYCE WYKES, daughter and co-heiress of John Wykes, by
Joan, daughter of John Kyriel, of Eynsford, Kent. She was born about
1400 (aged 7 in 1407). They had one probable son, John, Esq. (living
1460). His wife, Joyce Wykes, was co-heiress in 1407 to her cousin,
Joyce Botetourt, wife of Hugh Burnell, K.G., 2nd Lord Burnell. Hugh
was heir after 1412 to his older brother, John Strauley (or Strelley),
Knt. Hugh was present at the Battle of Agincourt in 1415. In 1417
Hugh and his wife, Joyce, sold her interest in a one-third part of the
reversion of the Weoley Castle (in Northfield), Worcestershire, and
the manors of Cradley (in Halesowen), Northfield, and Old Swinford,
Worcestershire, Bobbington, Clent, Handsworth and Meer (in Forton),
Staffordshire, and Bordesley (in Birmingham) and Haybern, Warwickshire
to Nicholas Ruggeley, Esq., and Edith his wife, which parties
immediately afterwards sold the reversion to Joan Beauchamp, Lady
Bergavenny. In 1418 Hugh and his wife, Joyce, sold her interest in a
one-third part of the manor of Newport Pagnell, Buckinghamshire to
Bartholomew Brokesby, Esq. In 1418 the king ordered the sheriff of
Kent and the bailiffs of City of Canterbury to arrest Hugh Strauley,
Esq., and bring him before the council with all speed. About 1420 he
was sued in Chancery by his brother, John's widow, Joan Strauley,
regarding the manor of Hazelbadge, Derbyshire. In 1424 he granted a
capital messuage and lands called Over Shatton" in the Peak,
Derbyshire to John Talbot, Lord Talbot and Furnival, and others in
1424. HUGH STRAULEY (or STRELLEY), Esq., was living in 1433.
References:
Lysons & Lysons, Magna Britannia 5 (1817): 172-192. Hunter, Agincourt
(1850): 48. Waters, Chester of Chicheley 1 (1878): 332. Colls. Hist.
Staffs. 11 (1890): 221-222, 223-227. Journal Derbyshire Arch. &
Natural Hist. Soc. 14 (1892): 108-118. Bull, A Hist. of Newport
Pagnell (1900): 27-44. Jeayes, Desc. Cat. of Derbyshire Charters
(1906): 250-251, 267. C.P.R. 1416-1422 (1911): 205, 302, 305. VCH
Worcester 3 (1913): 194-201. VCH Buckingham 4 (1927): 409-422. C.P.
9 (1936): 85, footnote g (sub Montagu). VCH Warwick 7 (1964): 58.
PRO Documents, C 1/69/186 (Chancery proceeding dated c. 1420-Johanne,
late the wife of John Strauley, knight. v. Hugh Strauley re. the manor
of Hasulbache [Hazelbadge], Derbyshire); C 146/3362 (grant dated at
Shatton on the feast of the Invention of Holy Cross, 2 Henry VI [1424]
by Hugh de Streley, to John Talbot, Lord Talbot and Fournyvall, Roger
Stedman, and Richard Worteley, of a capital messuage and lands &c.
called 'Over Shatton' in the Peak: Derbyshire); E 101/69/4/394
(Indentures dated 3 Henry V [1415-1416] between the king and Hugh
Strauley for service in his invasion of France); E 210/3149 (indenture
dated 6 Henry V [1418-1419] of defeasance by Bartholomew Brokesby,
esquire, of a bond by Hugh Strauley of co. Derby, and Nicholas
Ruggeley of Hawkesherd, co. Staf., esquires, for 500 marks for the
release to Joan Beauchamp, Lady Abergavenny, of their right in one-
third of the manor of Newport Pagnell, Buckinghamshire) (abstract of
documents available online at http://www.catalogue.nationalarchives.gov.uk/search.asp).
Douglas Richardson
As a followup to my earlier post, I've located a petition just now
dated 1471, in which Elizabeth Strelley, wife of John Strelley, Esq.,
petitioned the king regarding her husband's disputed ownership of the
manor of Hazlebadge, Derbyshire. The plaintiff's husband appears to
be the same person as John Strelley, Esq., who had possession of
Hazlebadge, Derbyshire in 1460, which individual was almost certainly
the son and heir of Hugh Strauley (or Strelley), Esq., by his wife,
Joyce Wykes. Elizabeth Strelley specifically states in her petition
that her husband "for lack of goods cannot sue at law." If so, this
would explain why John Strelley failed to join the lawsuit of the
other Botetourt heirs four years earlier in 1467, when they laid claim
to the manor of Ashby de la Zouch, Leicestershire.
Regarding the claim of the Vernon family to the manor of Hazlebadge,
Derbyshire, my research indicates that Hugh Strelley (or Strauley),
Esq. (husband of Joyce Wykes and grandson of Edward de Montagu) had a
sister-in-law, Joan, who was the widow of his older brother, Sir John
Strelley. In 1421 she farmed her dower rights in the manor of
Hazlebadge and other properties to Richard Vernon [Reference: Journal
Derbyshire Arch. & Natural Hist. Soc., 14 (1892): 108-118]. In this
same time period, Hugh was sued by his sister-in-law, Joan, regarding
the Hazlebadge manor [Reference: PRO Document, C 1/69/186]. Hugh
allegedly sold the manor in 1420-1421 to Richard de Vernon [Reference:
Lysons & Lysons Magna Britannia 5 (1817): 172-192]. But I imagine
this was either an enfeoffment, mortgage, or lease, or possibly a
coerced transaction, as John Strelley, Esq., had the back in his
possession in 1460.
In any event, we now have an explanation as to why Hugh Strauley (or
Strelley)'s son, John, did not join the other Botetourt heirs in the
1467 lawsuit. Answer: No money.
Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah
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PRO Document, SC 8/176/8788
Petitioners: Elizabeth Strelley, wife of John Strelley.
Addressees: King.
Places mentioned: Derby, [Derbyshire]; Hazlebadge, [Derbyshire];
Nether Haddon, [Derbyshire].
Other people mentioned: John Strelley of Derbyshire, esquire; Henry
Vernon, esquire; William Vernon, knight, father of Henry Vernon;
Richard Vernon of Nether Haddon; Ambrose Dethek (Dethick), servant of
Henry Vernon; Thomas Rodes, servant of Henry Vernon; Henrey Marshall
(Marshal), servant of Henry Vernon.
Nature of request: Strelley requests that, as her husband for lack of
goods cannot sue at law, Vernon be commanded to appear before the
council to answer to the wrongs done to him and other things that
Strelley will declare. It was found by an inquisition that Vernon
disseised her husband of the manor of Hazlebadge by force and arms,
and sent his servants to take her husband and his eldest so to Haddon
and imprisoned him for 11 weeks because he would not make a release of
the manor of Hazlebadge to Vernon.
[The petition is followed by the transcript of the jury.]
Endorsement: [None].
Covering dates [1471]
Note The petition is dated to 1471 as the petition apparently refers
to recent events and mentions two dates in which they occurred, 10
August 1461 [39 Hen. VI], and 4 August 1471 [11 Edw. IV].
WJhonson
Speaking of the issue of Edward Lord Montagu we find here on Leo's excellent site
http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139289&tree=LEO
the elder son Edward there said to have died between Jun 1349 and Feb 1359 quoting Cahiers de Saint Louis
Leo shows no wife or espoused.
I now present such a creature.
Will Johnson
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Reference Code: BCM
Berkeley Castle Muniments
Creation dates: 1153-17th cent
Creator(s): Berkeley family of Berkeley, Gloucestershire
Reference: BCM/D/1/1/11
Creation dates: [1343]
Language: French
Scope and Content
John Lord Mowbray and the earl of Salisbury (by his general attorneys Sir Nicholas de la Beche, Sir John de Wynkefeld, Sir Robert de Burton, Sir James de Beauford). 10 May 17 Edw. III
An agreement has been made between John and the earl for the marriage of John, John's eldest son, and Audrey, daughter of Edward de Mountagu, and the marriage of Edward, Edward's eldest son, and Blanche, John's daughter, and Edward will pay John 500 marks, 200 marks at the Michaelmas following and 300 marks at the Easter next after.
At: London.
[Please quote SC511 at Berkeley Castle Muniments when requesting this file]
Alan Grey
This document shows the 1343 agreement for a double marriage between
Mowbray’s and Montagu’s children, but it does not mean that the
marriages took place. The marriages were due to take place on 25 July
1343, but the administrative history of the Berkeley Castle Muniments
states that the marriages did not, in fact, take place, given that
Edward and Audrey Montague were both still alive and apparently
unmarried in June 1349. Both died childless before their parents. Also,
the cited agreement [BCM/D/1/1/11] must have been void anyway, given
that by March 1349 John de Mowbray was negotiating the terms of the
marriage between his son John and Elizabeth, daughter of John de
Segrave. Elizabeth was, in the end, the heir of her father, and the
Segrave estate passed to the Mowbrays. The administrative history
further states that Blanche Mowbray (d.1409), who was supposed to have
married Edward Montagu, married John Segrave, who died childless, and so
she went on to marry Sir Robert Bertram of Bothal (Northumb.) (d. 1363),
Thomas de Poynings (d.s.p. 1375), Sir John de Worth (d. 1391) and
finally Sir John Wiltshire (fl. 1405) [citing GEC x. 662]
Alan R Grey.
WJhonson
Leo shows that Audrey died between June 1349 and Feb 1359, so it's quite possible she outlived the time when her contracted father-in-law was beginning to renegotiate the marriage of his heir John Mowbray.
It would be interesting to know the reason why. We can speculate that perhaps since this was a joint agreement the fathers of four children, that the death of any ONE of those children might be enough to break the agreement.
We know that John and Blanche outlived this time period, so perhaps Edward or Audrey or both were actually already dead by this time.
Will Johnson
WJhonson
We know that John and Blanche outlived this time period, so perhaps Edward or Audrey or both were actually already dead by this time. >>
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Yes I'm saying regardless of what the Administrative History of the Berkeley Castle Muniments says
http://www.a2a.org.uk/search/documentxsl.asp?stylesheet=xsl\A2A_doc.xsl&i=0&com=1&nbKey=1&keyword=SC511+&properties=0601
I note that they *state* it, they do not show what evidence they are using, they do not cite any underlying document. They merely state it. So like all such statements, we have to view it with a critical eye.
Will