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Posh ancestry for Natalie Wood's daughter Natasha?
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ravinma...@yahoo.com
Oct 29, 2019, 1:53:46 PM10/29/19
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Natasha Gregson (Wagner) is the daughter of late Natalie Wood by her second husband, Richard Gregson, who has just died.
His obit., in _The Telegraph_, states, "Richard John Gregson was born in Poona on May 5, 1930, the youngest of the four children of Captain Donald Gregson, 3rd Indian Cavalry. His mother, Violet Hanson, was the daughter of Sir Francis Hanson ..."
At which point the obituary cuts off for me.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/obituaries/2019/10/28/richard-gregson-film-producer-oscar-nominated-screenwriter-agent/
This website below, on the ethnicity of various celebrities, fails to mention that Violet Hanson's father was a knight, and doesn't trace the Hanson and Winter lines at all:
"Natasha’s paternal grandparents were Donald Gregson and Violet Hanson (the daughter of Francis Hanson and Pearl Winter)."
https://ethnicelebs.com/natasha-gregson-wagner
The whole line of these Hansons is given here (apparently from a Burkes-like publication of some sort).
Lineage ~
Joshua Hanson, of Woodside near Fernley, County York married August 13, 1723, Grace Hes [?; maybe Hesketh] of Knaresborough, widow and left with other issue a son, Samuel Hanson born March 16, 1726 married August 24, 1748, Anne (died April 12, 1774) the daughter of William Sharp of Waltham St. Lawrence, Berks and died May 1798 leaving issue by her a son, Samuel Hanson of Botolph Lane, London, baptised November 8, 1752 married September 25, 1802, Anne Letts (died June 1840) of Cornhill London, and by her had with other issue, Samuel of whom hereafter.
Samuel Hanson of Btotlph Lane, Epsom, Surrey; Ramsgate, Kent and Harley Street and KIlburn, Middlesex born September 11, 1804; married 1st August 11, 1832, Mary Choppin (died January 18, 1867) the daughter of Nathaniel Smith Machin of Bishop Stortford, County, Hertford and by her had issue, with a son (died and infant), and three daughters (died unmarried). ...
His 2nd son, Sir Reginald Hanson, 1st Bt. Knight, M.A. LL.D. Camb., F.S.A., one of H.M.'s Lieuts for City of London, J.P. and D.L. Tower Hamlets and Middlesex, J.P. Westminster and London, M.P. for City of London 1891 to 1900 hon. Col. 6th Bn. Royal Fus., City of London Regt., 1881, Lord Mayor of London 1886-87, born May 31, 1840; created a Baronet June 6, 1887 married May 10, 1866 to Constance Hallett (died July 28, 1927) the daughter and co-heir of Charles Bentley Bingley of Stanhope Park, Middlesex and had issue
2) Francis Stanhope (Sir), Knight, Alderman and Lieut. for City of London, Sheriff 1908, mem. of L.C.C. 1907, Lt-Col. 6th Bn. Royal Fus., City of London Regt., born October 3, 1868; married January 20, 1897 to Pearl Norcott the daughter of Charles Albert Winter, J.P. of 33, Hyde Park Square W. He died February 17, 1910 having by her (who married 2nd 1926 Major Henry Noel Winter of Srathbogie, Pembury, Kent, son of late Lt. Col. N.N. Winter) had issue,
b) Violet Gwendoline Pearl (Old Chimney Cottage, Chideock, Bridport, Dorset) born March 31, 1899 married 1st March 4, 1919 William Bullivant yr. son of late William Pelham Bullivant of New Mills Court, Stroud. This marriage was annulled on her petition 1923 and she married 2nd August 29, 1924 (marriage dissolved by divorce 1944), Capt. Donald Selfe Leonard Gregson, late 3rd Ind. Cav and has issue.
https://coadb.com/surnames/hanson-arms.html
As Sir Francis Hanson's wife was Pearl Norcott Winter, daughter of Charles Winter, and she (Pearl) remarried to a Maj. Henry Winter of Kent, one of whose middle names was also Norcott, I'm guessing there is some descent, perhaps for both Pearl and her second husband, from one "Emily Dorcas [Norcott], bapt. 29 Oct., 1813, at Buttevant Church, m. there on 18 Jan., 1840, Capt. Charles Winter, 76th Foot, of Bridge Hill, Canterbury."
https://books.google.com/books?id=RYQjAQAAIAAJ&pg=PA429&dq=%22col+n+n+winter%22&hl=en&ppis=_c&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiym-6x_cHlAhWliOAKHSGUDdwQ6AEwAXoECAAQAg#v=onepage&q=%22col%20n%20n%20winter%22&f=false
https://books.google.com/books?id=MWSiYp0-AGEC&pg=PA542&dq=%22bridge+hill%22+winter+kent&hl=en&ppis=_c&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiavc_rg8LlAhWSMd8KHdAJBkUQ6AEwAHoECAEQAg#v=onepage&q=%22bridge%20hill%22%20winter%20kent&f=false
https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uc1.$b759449&view=1up&seq=213
This was the Anglo-Irish Norcott family of Springfield, co. Cork, in Ireland.
His obit., in _The Telegraph_, states, "Richard John Gregson was born in Poona on May 5, 1930, the youngest of the four children of Captain Donald Gregson, 3rd Indian Cavalry. His mother, Violet Hanson, was the daughter of Sir Francis Hanson ..."
At which point the obituary cuts off for me.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/obituaries/2019/10/28/richard-gregson-film-producer-oscar-nominated-screenwriter-agent/
This website below, on the ethnicity of various celebrities, fails to mention that Violet Hanson's father was a knight, and doesn't trace the Hanson and Winter lines at all:
"Natasha’s paternal grandparents were Donald Gregson and Violet Hanson (the daughter of Francis Hanson and Pearl Winter)."
https://ethnicelebs.com/natasha-gregson-wagner
The whole line of these Hansons is given here (apparently from a Burkes-like publication of some sort).
Lineage ~
Joshua Hanson, of Woodside near Fernley, County York married August 13, 1723, Grace Hes [?; maybe Hesketh] of Knaresborough, widow and left with other issue a son, Samuel Hanson born March 16, 1726 married August 24, 1748, Anne (died April 12, 1774) the daughter of William Sharp of Waltham St. Lawrence, Berks and died May 1798 leaving issue by her a son, Samuel Hanson of Botolph Lane, London, baptised November 8, 1752 married September 25, 1802, Anne Letts (died June 1840) of Cornhill London, and by her had with other issue, Samuel of whom hereafter.
Samuel Hanson of Btotlph Lane, Epsom, Surrey; Ramsgate, Kent and Harley Street and KIlburn, Middlesex born September 11, 1804; married 1st August 11, 1832, Mary Choppin (died January 18, 1867) the daughter of Nathaniel Smith Machin of Bishop Stortford, County, Hertford and by her had issue, with a son (died and infant), and three daughters (died unmarried). ...
His 2nd son, Sir Reginald Hanson, 1st Bt. Knight, M.A. LL.D. Camb., F.S.A., one of H.M.'s Lieuts for City of London, J.P. and D.L. Tower Hamlets and Middlesex, J.P. Westminster and London, M.P. for City of London 1891 to 1900 hon. Col. 6th Bn. Royal Fus., City of London Regt., 1881, Lord Mayor of London 1886-87, born May 31, 1840; created a Baronet June 6, 1887 married May 10, 1866 to Constance Hallett (died July 28, 1927) the daughter and co-heir of Charles Bentley Bingley of Stanhope Park, Middlesex and had issue
2) Francis Stanhope (Sir), Knight, Alderman and Lieut. for City of London, Sheriff 1908, mem. of L.C.C. 1907, Lt-Col. 6th Bn. Royal Fus., City of London Regt., born October 3, 1868; married January 20, 1897 to Pearl Norcott the daughter of Charles Albert Winter, J.P. of 33, Hyde Park Square W. He died February 17, 1910 having by her (who married 2nd 1926 Major Henry Noel Winter of Srathbogie, Pembury, Kent, son of late Lt. Col. N.N. Winter) had issue,
b) Violet Gwendoline Pearl (Old Chimney Cottage, Chideock, Bridport, Dorset) born March 31, 1899 married 1st March 4, 1919 William Bullivant yr. son of late William Pelham Bullivant of New Mills Court, Stroud. This marriage was annulled on her petition 1923 and she married 2nd August 29, 1924 (marriage dissolved by divorce 1944), Capt. Donald Selfe Leonard Gregson, late 3rd Ind. Cav and has issue.
https://coadb.com/surnames/hanson-arms.html
As Sir Francis Hanson's wife was Pearl Norcott Winter, daughter of Charles Winter, and she (Pearl) remarried to a Maj. Henry Winter of Kent, one of whose middle names was also Norcott, I'm guessing there is some descent, perhaps for both Pearl and her second husband, from one "Emily Dorcas [Norcott], bapt. 29 Oct., 1813, at Buttevant Church, m. there on 18 Jan., 1840, Capt. Charles Winter, 76th Foot, of Bridge Hill, Canterbury."
https://books.google.com/books?id=RYQjAQAAIAAJ&pg=PA429&dq=%22col+n+n+winter%22&hl=en&ppis=_c&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiym-6x_cHlAhWliOAKHSGUDdwQ6AEwAXoECAAQAg#v=onepage&q=%22col%20n%20n%20winter%22&f=false
https://books.google.com/books?id=MWSiYp0-AGEC&pg=PA542&dq=%22bridge+hill%22+winter+kent&hl=en&ppis=_c&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiavc_rg8LlAhWSMd8KHdAJBkUQ6AEwAHoECAEQAg#v=onepage&q=%22bridge%20hill%22%20winter%20kent&f=false
https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uc1.$b759449&view=1up&seq=213
This was the Anglo-Irish Norcott family of Springfield, co. Cork, in Ireland.
ravinma...@yahoo.com
Oct 29, 2019, 2:17:27 PM10/29/19
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[5] MAJOR HENRY NOEL NORCOTT WINTER
Henry and his wife Pearl are found in directories and passenger lists from 1936 to 1938 inclusive but were gone by 1939.
Henry was born June 1,1883 at Dover, Kent and was baptised at St Mary-the-Virgin ,Dover,Kent. Henry was one of several children born to Noel Norcott Winter (1852-1908) and Constance Mary Winter, nee Broadbent (1854-1914). Henry’s father died in London and his mother in Thanet, Kent.
The 1891 census, taken at 33 Park Crescent in North Neols, Lancashire gave Henry as a student in a boys school who’s headmistress at the time was Ann Hope, age 64, who ran the school with two teachers and staff of three servants. At the time of this census there were 15 boys attending the school all age 11 or under.
Henry decided to persue a military career and military records show that he was in the Second Boer War in South Africa from 1899 to 1902, having served with the 6th Btn Royal Fusiliers. His medal card shows that he was entitled to receive the South African Meda; and clasps for service in Cape Colony, Orange Free State, and Transvaal. The 1901 and 1902 clasps were awarded to him on the basis that he was in the county from May 25,1901 to July 31,1902.
It is not known when or where Henry was married but his wife was Pearl Norcott Winter, who was born at Malabar Hill, Bombay, India on December 7,1875. She was one of four children born to Charles Albert Winter (1846-1920)) and Ann Jemima Winter, nee Watson (1851-1920).
Her mother died in London and it is believed that her father died in India. Pearl had been baptised January 11,1876 at Christ Church in Byculla, Bombay, India. Henry and Peal never had any children. Pearl had been living 1881 at Marylebone,London and in 1891 at Holdenhurst, Hampshire as a spinster. In January 1897 she married Francis Stanhope Hanson(1869-1920) in London and with him had two children namely Violet Gwendoline Pearl Hanson,born 1899, and Charles Reginald Frances Hanson(1904-1933). By 1927she married Henry Noel Norcott Winter.
A review of travel records show that Henry and his wife travelled together repeatedly and during the period they made a total of 12 trips out of the country between 1927 and 1950. These records provided the addresses of where they were living in England during that time , a list of which is given below.
from http://pembury.org/history/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/THE-HISTORY-OF-BRACKENSTON-IN-PEMBURY-tn.pdf
Henry and his wife Pearl are found in directories and passenger lists from 1936 to 1938 inclusive but were gone by 1939.
Henry was born June 1,1883 at Dover, Kent and was baptised at St Mary-the-Virgin ,Dover,Kent. Henry was one of several children born to Noel Norcott Winter (1852-1908) and Constance Mary Winter, nee Broadbent (1854-1914). Henry’s father died in London and his mother in Thanet, Kent.
The 1891 census, taken at 33 Park Crescent in North Neols, Lancashire gave Henry as a student in a boys school who’s headmistress at the time was Ann Hope, age 64, who ran the school with two teachers and staff of three servants. At the time of this census there were 15 boys attending the school all age 11 or under.
Henry decided to persue a military career and military records show that he was in the Second Boer War in South Africa from 1899 to 1902, having served with the 6th Btn Royal Fusiliers. His medal card shows that he was entitled to receive the South African Meda; and clasps for service in Cape Colony, Orange Free State, and Transvaal. The 1901 and 1902 clasps were awarded to him on the basis that he was in the county from May 25,1901 to July 31,1902.
It is not known when or where Henry was married but his wife was Pearl Norcott Winter, who was born at Malabar Hill, Bombay, India on December 7,1875. She was one of four children born to Charles Albert Winter (1846-1920)) and Ann Jemima Winter, nee Watson (1851-1920).
Her mother died in London and it is believed that her father died in India. Pearl had been baptised January 11,1876 at Christ Church in Byculla, Bombay, India. Henry and Peal never had any children. Pearl had been living 1881 at Marylebone,London and in 1891 at Holdenhurst, Hampshire as a spinster. In January 1897 she married Francis Stanhope Hanson(1869-1920) in London and with him had two children namely Violet Gwendoline Pearl Hanson,born 1899, and Charles Reginald Frances Hanson(1904-1933). By 1927she married Henry Noel Norcott Winter.
A review of travel records show that Henry and his wife travelled together repeatedly and during the period they made a total of 12 trips out of the country between 1927 and 1950. These records provided the addresses of where they were living in England during that time , a list of which is given below.
from http://pembury.org/history/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/THE-HISTORY-OF-BRACKENSTON-IN-PEMBURY-tn.pdf
ravinma...@yahoo.com
Oct 29, 2019, 2:58:28 PM10/29/19
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Jemima Watson apparently had some Scots lines.
https://www.geni.com/people/Jemima-Anne/6000000067864006933
https://www.geni.com/people/Jemima-Anne/6000000067864006933
ravinma...@yahoo.com
Oct 29, 2019, 6:19:26 PM10/29/19
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Per genealogics.org, the first Norcott in Ireland was a maternal grandson of Sir Thomas Aylesbury, Baronet, and therefore might have a line from Edward I via Denman, Blount, etc.
https://www.genealogics.org/pedigree.php?personID=I00507034&tree=LEO
https://www.genealogics.org/pedigree.php?personID=I00507034&tree=LEO
leslie...@gmail.com
Oct 30, 2019, 3:29:21 AM10/30/19
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On Tuesday, October 29, 2019 at 2:19:26 PM UTC-8, ravinma...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Per genealogics.org, the first Norcott in Ireland was a maternal grandson of Sir Thomas Aylesbury, Baronet, and therefore might have a line from Edward I via Denman, Blount, etc.
>
> https://www.genealogics.org/pedigree.php?personID=I00507034&tree=LEO
who married into the Norcott family:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anne_Denman
However, there is a descent from Edward III, as well as descents from
Edward I, through Arthur Gethin Creagh (1746-1833), married to Isabella
Bagwell.
https://archive.org/details/royaldescentsped00burk/page/n165
The fourth daughter of Arthur and Isabella was Dorcas, wife of James Norcott.
James and Dorcas were the parents of Emily Dorcas Norcott, married in 1840
to Charles Winter, Captain of the 76th Foot:
https://books.google.com/books?id=JVI4AQAAMAAJ&pg=PA81&lpg=PA81&dq=emily+dorcas+norcott+charles+winter&source=bl&ots=bJeIg9pVEV&sig=ACfU3U0-jVQG87Ma5M2XPgaznXZ2SU6JKA&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiN-6e-uMPlAhUSEqwKHU-3C1IQ6AEwBnoECAgQAQ#v=onepage&q=emily%20dorcas%20norcott%20charles%20winter&f=false
Leslie
ravinma...@yahoo.com
Oct 30, 2019, 12:14:47 PM10/30/19
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Okay, very interesting.
I suppose the important part of that, for those seeking royal lines, is the statement about one of the Creagh wives in the line. "Miss Gethin was the dau., by Anne Clayton, of Arthur Gethin, eldest son of Randolph Gethin, by Mary St. Leger, dau. of Col. John St. Leger, (ancestor of the Lords Doneraile) and Mary, dau. of Arthur Chichester, 1st Earl of Donegal."
The article linked to above, on the Norcotts of Springfield co. Cork, shows Emily Dorcas with an additional Christian name in the record of marriage:
"Emily Dorcas Gethin Norcott."
https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uc1.$b759449&view=1up&seq=213
I suppose the important part of that, for those seeking royal lines, is the statement about one of the Creagh wives in the line. "Miss Gethin was the dau., by Anne Clayton, of Arthur Gethin, eldest son of Randolph Gethin, by Mary St. Leger, dau. of Col. John St. Leger, (ancestor of the Lords Doneraile) and Mary, dau. of Arthur Chichester, 1st Earl of Donegal."
The article linked to above, on the Norcotts of Springfield co. Cork, shows Emily Dorcas with an additional Christian name in the record of marriage:
"Emily Dorcas Gethin Norcott."
https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uc1.$b759449&view=1up&seq=213
ravinma...@yahoo.com
Oct 30, 2019, 12:42:13 PM10/30/19
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On 10 Oct. 1903, a Kentish newspaper, _Whitstable Times and Herne Bay Herald_, apparently published: "WINTER. On the 27th Sept., Bridge Hill, near Canterbury, Emily Dorcas Gethin, widow of Charles Winter (formerly ... "
That's all I can read, not having a subscription to britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk.
That's all I can read, not having a subscription to britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk.
ravinma...@yahoo.com
Oct 30, 2019, 12:48:45 PM10/30/19
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Name Charles Albert Winter
Event Type Marriage Notice
Event Date 9 Feb 1867
Event Place Canterbury, Kent, England, United Kingdom
Event Place (Original) Canterbury, Kentish Chronicle and Canterbury Weekly News, Kent, England
Gender Male
Father's Name Winter
Spouse's Name Annie Watson
Spouse's Gender Female
Spouse's Father's Name William Gordon Watson
Event Type Marriage Notice
Event Date 9 Feb 1867
Event Place Canterbury, Kent, England, United Kingdom
Event Place (Original) Canterbury, Kentish Chronicle and Canterbury Weekly News, Kent, England
Gender Male
Father's Name Winter
Spouse's Name Annie Watson
Spouse's Gender Female
Spouse's Father's Name William Gordon Watson
ravinma...@yahoo.com
Oct 30, 2019, 1:09:51 PM10/30/19
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WINTER -- WATSON. Jan. 30 [1867], at St. Mary Abbotts, Kensington, Charles Albert Winter, solicitor, Canterbury, second son of Captain Charles Winter, of Bridge Hill, near Canterbury, to Annie, youngest daughter of the late William Gordon Watson, Esq., of Edinburgh.
https://books.google.com/books?id=mGEvAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA91&lpg=PA91&dq=%22charles+albert+winter%22+1867+canterbury&source=bl&ots=vkhABTCutU&sig=ACfU3U2VK7NGYdik6Q_Gn7MQrIILv8LSRQ&hl=en&ppis=_c&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiA_oWHvMTlAhXETd8KHUxBBH8Q6AEwAHoECAUQAQ#v=onepage&q=%22charles%20albert%20winter%22%201867%20canterbury&f=false
https://books.google.com/books?id=mGEvAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA91&lpg=PA91&dq=%22charles+albert+winter%22+1867+canterbury&source=bl&ots=vkhABTCutU&sig=ACfU3U2VK7NGYdik6Q_Gn7MQrIILv8LSRQ&hl=en&ppis=_c&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiA_oWHvMTlAhXETd8KHUxBBH8Q6AEwAHoECAUQAQ#v=onepage&q=%22charles%20albert%20winter%22%201867%20canterbury&f=false
John Higgins
Oct 30, 2019, 2:14:08 PM10/30/19
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On Tuesday, October 29, 2019 at 3:19:26 PM UTC-7, ravinma...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Per genealogics.org, the first Norcott in Ireland was a maternal grandson of Sir Thomas Aylesbury, Baronet, and therefore might have a line from Edward I via Denman, Blount, etc.
>
> https://www.genealogics.org/pedigree.php?personID=I00507034&tree=LEO
The entries in Genealogics for Rev. John Norcott and both of his parents do not show any sources (or at least public sources). And the Norcott pedigree previously cited in the Journal of the Cork Historical and Archaeological Journal starts off with Rev. John without indicating any parents. Good reasons to be doubtful about the supposed royal connection at this point...
> Per genealogics.org, the first Norcott in Ireland was a maternal grandson of Sir Thomas Aylesbury, Baronet, and therefore might have a line from Edward I via Denman, Blount, etc.
>
> https://www.genealogics.org/pedigree.php?personID=I00507034&tree=LEO
John Higgins
Oct 30, 2019, 2:28:08 PM10/30/19
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On Tuesday, October 29, 2019 at 10:53:46 AM UTC-7, ravinma...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> The whole line of these Hansons is given here (apparently from a Burkes-like publication of some sort).
>
> Lineage ~
>
> Joshua Hanson, of Woodside near Fernley, County York married August 13, 1723, Grace Hes [?; maybe Hesketh] of Knaresborough, widow and left with other issue a son, Samuel Hanson born March 16, 1726 married August 24, 1748, Anne (died April 12, 1774) the daughter of William Sharp of Waltham St. Lawrence, Berks and died May 1798 leaving issue by her a son, Samuel Hanson of Botolph Lane, London, baptised November 8, 1752 married September 25, 1802, Anne Letts (died June 1840) of Cornhill London, and by her had with other issue, Samuel of whom hereafter.
>
> Samuel Hanson of Btotlph Lane, Epsom, Surrey; Ramsgate, Kent and Harley Street and KIlburn, Middlesex born September 11, 1804; married 1st August 11, 1832, Mary Choppin (died January 18, 1867) the daughter of Nathaniel Smith Machin of Bishop Stortford, County, Hertford and by her had issue, with a son (died and infant), and three daughters (died unmarried). ...
>
>
> His 2nd son, Sir Reginald Hanson, 1st Bt. Knight, M.A. LL.D. Camb., F.S.A., one of H.M.'s Lieuts for City of London, J.P. and D.L. Tower Hamlets and Middlesex, J.P. Westminster and London, M.P. for City of London 1891 to 1900 hon. Col. 6th Bn. Royal Fus., City of London Regt., 1881, Lord Mayor of London 1886-87, born May 31, 1840; created a Baronet June 6, 1887 married May 10, 1866 to Constance Hallett (died July 28, 1927) the daughter and co-heir of Charles Bentley Bingley of Stanhope Park, Middlesex and had issue
>
>
> 2) Francis Stanhope (Sir), Knight, Alderman and Lieut. for City of London, Sheriff 1908, mem. of L.C.C. 1907, Lt-Col. 6th Bn. Royal Fus., City of London Regt., born October 3, 1868; married January 20, 1897 to Pearl Norcott the daughter of Charles Albert Winter, J.P. of 33, Hyde Park Square W. He died February 17, 1910 having by her (who married 2nd 1926 Major Henry Noel Winter of Srathbogie, Pembury, Kent, son of late Lt. Col. N.N. Winter) had issue,
>
>
> b) Violet Gwendoline Pearl (Old Chimney Cottage, Chideock, Bridport, Dorset) born March 31, 1899 married 1st March 4, 1919 William Bullivant yr. son of late William Pelham Bullivant of New Mills Court, Stroud. This marriage was annulled on her petition 1923 and she married 2nd August 29, 1924 (marriage dissolved by divorce 1944), Capt. Donald Selfe Leonard Gregson, late 3rd Ind. Cav and has issue.
>
> https://coadb.com/surnames/hanson-arms.html
>
The Hanson baronetcy mentioned here [of Bryanstown Square] went extinct in 1996 and thus was last covered in in the 1970 edition of BP. The lineage in the website mentioned above is probably from the 1949 edition, since it mentions the "current" baronet as the 3rd baronet who died in 1951.
>
> The whole line of these Hansons is given here (apparently from a Burkes-like publication of some sort).
>
> Lineage ~
>
> Joshua Hanson, of Woodside near Fernley, County York married August 13, 1723, Grace Hes [?; maybe Hesketh] of Knaresborough, widow and left with other issue a son, Samuel Hanson born March 16, 1726 married August 24, 1748, Anne (died April 12, 1774) the daughter of William Sharp of Waltham St. Lawrence, Berks and died May 1798 leaving issue by her a son, Samuel Hanson of Botolph Lane, London, baptised November 8, 1752 married September 25, 1802, Anne Letts (died June 1840) of Cornhill London, and by her had with other issue, Samuel of whom hereafter.
>
> Samuel Hanson of Btotlph Lane, Epsom, Surrey; Ramsgate, Kent and Harley Street and KIlburn, Middlesex born September 11, 1804; married 1st August 11, 1832, Mary Choppin (died January 18, 1867) the daughter of Nathaniel Smith Machin of Bishop Stortford, County, Hertford and by her had issue, with a son (died and infant), and three daughters (died unmarried). ...
>
>
> His 2nd son, Sir Reginald Hanson, 1st Bt. Knight, M.A. LL.D. Camb., F.S.A., one of H.M.'s Lieuts for City of London, J.P. and D.L. Tower Hamlets and Middlesex, J.P. Westminster and London, M.P. for City of London 1891 to 1900 hon. Col. 6th Bn. Royal Fus., City of London Regt., 1881, Lord Mayor of London 1886-87, born May 31, 1840; created a Baronet June 6, 1887 married May 10, 1866 to Constance Hallett (died July 28, 1927) the daughter and co-heir of Charles Bentley Bingley of Stanhope Park, Middlesex and had issue
>
>
> 2) Francis Stanhope (Sir), Knight, Alderman and Lieut. for City of London, Sheriff 1908, mem. of L.C.C. 1907, Lt-Col. 6th Bn. Royal Fus., City of London Regt., born October 3, 1868; married January 20, 1897 to Pearl Norcott the daughter of Charles Albert Winter, J.P. of 33, Hyde Park Square W. He died February 17, 1910 having by her (who married 2nd 1926 Major Henry Noel Winter of Srathbogie, Pembury, Kent, son of late Lt. Col. N.N. Winter) had issue,
>
>
> b) Violet Gwendoline Pearl (Old Chimney Cottage, Chideock, Bridport, Dorset) born March 31, 1899 married 1st March 4, 1919 William Bullivant yr. son of late William Pelham Bullivant of New Mills Court, Stroud. This marriage was annulled on her petition 1923 and she married 2nd August 29, 1924 (marriage dissolved by divorce 1944), Capt. Donald Selfe Leonard Gregson, late 3rd Ind. Cav and has issue.
>
> https://coadb.com/surnames/hanson-arms.html
>
John Higgins
Oct 30, 2019, 3:02:58 PM10/30/19
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leslie...@gmail.com
Oct 30, 2019, 4:04:16 PM10/30/19
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On Wednesday, October 30, 2019 at 10:09:51 AM UTC-7, ravinma...@yahoo.com wrote:
> WINTER -- WATSON. Jan. 30 [1867], at St. Mary Abbotts, Kensington, Charles Albert Winter, solicitor, Canterbury, second son of Captain Charles Winter, of Bridge Hill, near Canterbury, to Annie, youngest daughter of the late William Gordon Watson, Esq., of Edinburgh.
>
> https://books.google.com/books?id=mGEvAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA91&lpg=PA91&dq=%22charles+albert+winter%22+1867+canterbury&source=bl&ots=vkhABTCutU&sig=ACfU3U2VK7NGYdik6Q_Gn7MQrIILv8LSRQ&hl=en&ppis=_c&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiA_oWHvMTlAhXETd8KHUxBBH8Q6AEwAHoECAUQAQ#v=onepage&q=%22charles%20albert%20winter%22%201867%20canterbury&f=false
died 28 December 1894, was proved 12 February 1895 by Charles Albert Winter
esquire and Edward Bernard solicitor:
https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/Wills?Surname=winter&SurnameGrants=winter&YearOfDeath=1895&YearOfDeathGrants=1895&IsGrantSearch=True&IsCalendarSearch=False#calendar
The will of Charles Albert Winter of 33 Hyde Park Square, Middlesex,
died 11 June 1920, was proved 25 September 1920:
https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/Wills?Surname=winter&SurnameGrants=winter&YearOfDeath=1920&YearOfDeathGrants=1920&IsGrantSearch=True&IsCalendarSearch=False#calendar
Leslie
leslie...@gmail.com
Oct 30, 2019, 4:13:00 PM10/30/19
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On Wednesday, October 30, 2019 at 9:42:13 AM UTC-7, ravinma...@yahoo.com wrote:
> On 10 Oct. 1903, a Kentish newspaper, _Whitstable Times and Herne Bay Herald_, apparently published: "WINTER. On the 27th Sept., Bridge Hill, near Canterbury, Emily Dorcas Gethin, widow of Charles Winter (formerly ... "
>
> That's all I can read, not having a subscription to britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk.
Charles Winter & his wife Emily Dorcas Gethin both have
> On 10 Oct. 1903, a Kentish newspaper, _Whitstable Times and Herne Bay Herald_, apparently published: "WINTER. On the 27th Sept., Bridge Hill, near Canterbury, Emily Dorcas Gethin, widow of Charles Winter (formerly ... "
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> That's all I can read, not having a subscription to britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk.
surviving inscriptions:
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/140377810
However, they have incorrectly transcribed Charles as dying in
1854.
Leslie
leslie...@gmail.com
Nov 1, 2019, 2:00:24 PM11/1/19
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late a Captain in Her Majesty's Sixty Sixth Regiment of Infantry,
and afterwards adjutant of the East Kent militia,
names his son Charles Albert Winter of No. 2 Airlie Gardens, Campden Hill, Kensington, Middlesex, esquire, as an executor [source: FHL film 1,867,363].
The son's residence is also noted here:
https://books.google.com/books?id=cLc7AQAAMAAJ&pg=RA1-PA279&dq=charles+albert+winter+kensington+middlesex&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi0x8DAoMflAhXXrJ4KHcIEAyoQ6AEwAXoECAEQAg#v=onepage&q=charles%20albert%20winter%20kensington%20middlesex&f=false
Leslie
ravinma...@yahoo.com
Nov 1, 2019, 4:20:28 PM11/1/19
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(from IGI)
Staplehurst, Kent
--Charlotte [sic], dau [sic] of Charles and Emily Winter, bapt. 1 Dec. 1844
There was also a Charles, son of Charles and ELLEN, bapt. in Nov. 1843 at Old Church, St. Pancras, London.
Charles and Emily had a number of children baptized at Staplehurst, Canterbury, Bridge, Kent and, oddly, Chilcompton, Somerset.
leslie...@gmail.com
Nov 2, 2019, 3:35:56 PM11/2/19
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Charles Winter of Staplehurst, a bricklayer, and native of that parish,
is recorded in the 1851 Census, along with wife Emily (born in Maidstone),
and their children (on page 8):
http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~staplehurst/genealogy/pdf_data/1851_census.pdf
Leslie
JBrand
Nov 2, 2019, 7:28:05 PM11/2/19
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Oh, I guess the correct 1851 census entry for this group shows Charles, aged 7, born in Ireland:
Charles Winter Head Male 37 London, Middlesex
Emily Winter Wife Female 34 Ireland
Charles Winter Son Male 7 Ireland
Mary Winter Daughter Female 5 Chilington, Somersetshire
Emily Winter Daughter Female 3 Canterbury, Kent
George Winter Son Male 2 Bridge, Kent
Charles Winter Head Male 37 London, Middlesex
Emily Winter Wife Female 34 Ireland
Charles Winter Son Male 7 Ireland
Mary Winter Daughter Female 5 Chilington, Somersetshire
Emily Winter Daughter Female 3 Canterbury, Kent
George Winter Son Male 2 Bridge, Kent
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