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Sir Robert Fraunceys of Foremark (d. aft Mar 1419) had a wife Isabel and ten children as discussed in previous posts to SGM.
A. Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. III, p 290 calls her Isabel dau. of Sir Thomas Brumpton.
B. HoP does not identify her other than as a widow of Thomas Brumpton (d. 1382).
"Family and Education
s. and h. of Robert Francis† (d. by 1370) of Foremark. m. by Easter 1392, Isabel, wid. of Thomas Brumpton (d.1382) of Longford, Salop and Church Eaton, Staffs., ?2s. inc. Robert†, 8da. Kntd. by Oct. 1385"
C. We see in 'Church Eaton: The manor of Wood Eaton', Staffordshire Historical Collections, vol. 4 (1883), pp. 20-25. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=52406. Date accessed: 21 July 2008:
"In the meantime, John de Brumpton (II.) died, and was succeeded by his son, Thomas de Brumpton, Esq., who died on 13th September, 6 Richard II., 1382, leaving his wife Isabel surviving, and an infant son Thomas de Brumpton, his heir. (fn. 43)
Thomas de Brumpton (II.) was two years of age at the date of the inquest after his father's death, which was taken at Stafford on 4th October, 1382."
footnote 43. "Isabel, the wife of Thomas de Brumpton, was the daughter of Adam (?) de Peshale, and sister of Sir Adam de Peshale (I.) of Weston, Knight. She was married secondly to Thomas Gech de Newport, of High Ercall in Shropshire, Esq., and thirdly to Sir Robert Fraunceys, Knight. In 1394, Petronilla, Prioress of the Black Nuns of Brewode, and the convent there, acknowledge the receipt of £100, by the hands of Thomas Gech, to pray for the souls of Thomas de Brumpton, formerly lord of Eyton, and the souls of all his ancestors; dated in their chapel (at Brewode) on Tuesday in the Feast of St. Michael the Archangel, 18 Ric. II. (Newport Evidences). It will have been through this second marriage of the Lady Isabel that the Newports had to do with the manor of Longford. Among Blakeway's extracts from the Newport deeds in the Bodleian Library, is a memorandum (without date) of Thomas Newport, Esq., that a fine had been levied to Humfrey de Halughton, Esq., Master Nicholas de Peshale, Master Thomas Newport, and Roger Conote, Clerks, and the heirs of the said Roger, of the manor of Ercalwe (High Ercall), which manor they have of the feoffment of the said Thomas Newport, Esq., as also the reversions of the manors of Longford, in the county of Salop, and Chirche Eyton, in the county of Stafford, which are held by Sir Robert Fraunceys, Knight, and Isabel his wife, for the term of the life of the said Isabel, and a fifth part of the manor of Weston under the Lezord, in the county of Stafford, which Sir Adam de Peshale holds for the term of his life, and which, after the deaths of the said Isabel and Adam, should remain to the said Thomas Newport, Esq., and his heirs. The said Thomas de Newport, whom I take to have been the son of Thomas Gech de Newport and Isabel de Peshale, succeeded to the manor of Ercall which had been the possession of his father. That fifth part of the manor of Weston, however, which had been settled by Adam de Peshale (I.), by deed of 3rd November, 1373, on his sister Isabel and the heirs of her body in default of his own bodily issue, passed to his own son Adam de Peshale (the second and last lord of Weston of that name) and his issue. With respect to the manors of Longford and Church Eaton, after the death of Isabel, who held them for term of her life, a claimant appeared in the person of John Stokes of Brimpton, the cousin and heir of Isabel's first husband Thomas de Brumpton, who seems to have met with indifferent success. I imagine that the Newports succeeded in making good their title to Longford, probably by some compromise with the more direct heir; for in 4 Edward IV. (1464–5) William Newport, Esq., Lord of Longeford near Newport, demises to Richard Wright the site of his manor of Longford, with all his demesne lands there, &c., at an annual rent of six marks, the said Richard to perform the office of bailiff of the manor and to collect the rents. In witness whereof the seal of John Harecourt, Esq., the seneschal there, is appended; and the deed is further attested by Edward Paternoster and William Collewiche, Esquires ("Newport Evidences"). The right of John Stokes to the manor of Church Eaton was by him disposed of, as we shall see, to the Earl of Stafford."
Here she is identfied as Isabel Peshall and given three husbands.
D. Tresswell & Vincent, Visitation of Shropshire, 1623, sub Needham of Shavington, pps 372-374. Collections for a History of Staffordshire, Vol, IV, (1883), part two, pps 1-16.
Thomas & Isabella had a son, Thomas and possibly other children.
National Archives of the United Kingdom: 15th Centry - These documents are held at Shropshire Archives - Language: French
Contents: Thomas Neuport esquier Instructions for levying a fine to Umfrey de Halughton esq, Master Nichol de Peshale, Master Thomas Neuport and Roger Louete clerks and to the heirs of the said Roger, of the manor of Ercalewe and appurtenances in co Salop (which manor they have by feoffment of the said Thomas Neuport esq, and also in the same fine the reversion of the manors of Longeford co Salop and Churche Byton co Staffs and their appurtenances (which Robert Fraunceys and Isabella his wife hold for the term of Isabella's life) and the reversion of 1/5th part of the manor of Weston sougthe Lesezard co Staffs (which Adam de Peshale knight holds for term of his life), which after the deaths of Isabella and Adam descend to the said Thomas Neuport esq and his heirs, to remain to the said Umfrey, Nichol, Thomas and Roger and Roger's heirs; and also to speak to David Huls or Thomas Huls living in Greys Ynne to prepare two letters of covenants for levying the said fine directed to the Sheriffs of Salop and Staffs specifying the parties and names of the manors and reversions and their appurtenances to levy the said fine at the Octe of Michaelmas next
Robert Fraunceys was dead by 1432; Isabella his wife survived him. See Byton VIII 114.
E. National Archives of the United Kingdom: 15th Centry -
These documents are held at Shropshire Archives
Language: French
Contents:
Thomas Neuport esquier Instructions for levying a fine to Umfrey de Halughton esq, Master Nichol de Peshale, Master Thomas Neuport and Roger Louete clerks and to the heirs of the said Roger, of the manor of Ercalewe and appurtenances in co Salop (which manor they have by feoffment of the said Thomas Neuport esq, and also in the same fine the reversion of the manors of Longeford co Salop and Churche Byton co Staffs and their appurtenances (which Robert Fraunceys and Isabella his wife hold for the term of Isabella's life) and the reversion of 1/5th part of the manor of Weston sougthe Lesezard co Staffs (which Adam de Peshale knight holds for term of his life), which after the deaths of Isabella and Adam descend to the said Thomas Neuport esq and his heirs, to remain to the said Umfrey, Nichol, Thomas and Roger and Roger's heirs; and also to speak to David Huls or Thomas Huls living in Greys Ynne to prepare two letters of covenants for levying the said fine directed to the Sheriffs of Salop and Staffs specifying the parties and names of the manors and reversions and their appurtenances to levy the said fine at the Octe of Michaelmas next
Robert Fraunceys was dead by 1432; Isabella his wife survived him. See Byton VIII 114.
Edited by The William Salt Archeological Society, Collections for a History of Staffordshire, Volume II: page 154-155 - ... the said Thomas Newport by the name of Thomas Gech
In Easter term 21 Richard II [1398] Thomas Gech & Isabell, his wife, and Thomas, son of Thomas Gech, sued Pether de Cavereswalle & Mary, his wife, for waste and destructionof houses, woods & gardens in Ercalwe which Peter & Mary held for their lives and which should revert to the plaintiffs.
Ref: AR 6: 50. Collections for a History of Staffordshire, Vol, IV, (1883), part two, pps 1-16. Payling: 233 & 241. S. M. Wright, Derbyshire Gentry, Derbyshire Record Society, viii, appendix 5a. HoP (1386), II: 593 and III: 121. Genealogist, VII, pps 134-135. The Genealogist, Vol. VII, pps 134-135. Henry Chitty and John Phillipot, The Visitation of the County of Gloucester, 1623, London (1885), pps 214-215. John Tilley, The Old Halls, Manors and Families of Derbyshire, Vol. IV, (1902), Appendix, Armory of Repton and Morleston. http://www.historyofparliamentonline.org/volume/1386-1421/member/francis-sir-robert-141920.
Note chronological problem. If Isabel was daughter of the Adam who died in 1346 how could she have so many children beginning in 1392 (or 1398)? Perhaps two Isabels have been conflated. HoP calls her Isabel widow of Thomas Brumpton and says m. by Easter 1392.
Douglas Richardson's account appears to show that two Isabels have been conflated.
Can anyone shed any light on this Isabel(s)??
Doug Smith
A. Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. III, p 290 calls her Isabel dau. of Sir Thomas Brumpton.
B. HoP does not identify her other than as a widow of Thomas Brumpton (d. 1382).
"Family and Education
s. and h. of Robert Francis† (d. by 1370) of Foremark. m. by Easter 1392, Isabel, wid. of Thomas Brumpton (d.1382) of Longford, Salop and Church Eaton, Staffs., ?2s. inc. Robert†, 8da. Kntd. by Oct. 1385"
C. We see in 'Church Eaton: The manor of Wood Eaton', Staffordshire Historical Collections, vol. 4 (1883), pp. 20-25. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=52406. Date accessed: 21 July 2008:
"In the meantime, John de Brumpton (II.) died, and was succeeded by his son, Thomas de Brumpton, Esq., who died on 13th September, 6 Richard II., 1382, leaving his wife Isabel surviving, and an infant son Thomas de Brumpton, his heir. (fn. 43)
Thomas de Brumpton (II.) was two years of age at the date of the inquest after his father's death, which was taken at Stafford on 4th October, 1382."
footnote 43. "Isabel, the wife of Thomas de Brumpton, was the daughter of Adam (?) de Peshale, and sister of Sir Adam de Peshale (I.) of Weston, Knight. She was married secondly to Thomas Gech de Newport, of High Ercall in Shropshire, Esq., and thirdly to Sir Robert Fraunceys, Knight. In 1394, Petronilla, Prioress of the Black Nuns of Brewode, and the convent there, acknowledge the receipt of £100, by the hands of Thomas Gech, to pray for the souls of Thomas de Brumpton, formerly lord of Eyton, and the souls of all his ancestors; dated in their chapel (at Brewode) on Tuesday in the Feast of St. Michael the Archangel, 18 Ric. II. (Newport Evidences). It will have been through this second marriage of the Lady Isabel that the Newports had to do with the manor of Longford. Among Blakeway's extracts from the Newport deeds in the Bodleian Library, is a memorandum (without date) of Thomas Newport, Esq., that a fine had been levied to Humfrey de Halughton, Esq., Master Nicholas de Peshale, Master Thomas Newport, and Roger Conote, Clerks, and the heirs of the said Roger, of the manor of Ercalwe (High Ercall), which manor they have of the feoffment of the said Thomas Newport, Esq., as also the reversions of the manors of Longford, in the county of Salop, and Chirche Eyton, in the county of Stafford, which are held by Sir Robert Fraunceys, Knight, and Isabel his wife, for the term of the life of the said Isabel, and a fifth part of the manor of Weston under the Lezord, in the county of Stafford, which Sir Adam de Peshale holds for the term of his life, and which, after the deaths of the said Isabel and Adam, should remain to the said Thomas Newport, Esq., and his heirs. The said Thomas de Newport, whom I take to have been the son of Thomas Gech de Newport and Isabel de Peshale, succeeded to the manor of Ercall which had been the possession of his father. That fifth part of the manor of Weston, however, which had been settled by Adam de Peshale (I.), by deed of 3rd November, 1373, on his sister Isabel and the heirs of her body in default of his own bodily issue, passed to his own son Adam de Peshale (the second and last lord of Weston of that name) and his issue. With respect to the manors of Longford and Church Eaton, after the death of Isabel, who held them for term of her life, a claimant appeared in the person of John Stokes of Brimpton, the cousin and heir of Isabel's first husband Thomas de Brumpton, who seems to have met with indifferent success. I imagine that the Newports succeeded in making good their title to Longford, probably by some compromise with the more direct heir; for in 4 Edward IV. (1464–5) William Newport, Esq., Lord of Longeford near Newport, demises to Richard Wright the site of his manor of Longford, with all his demesne lands there, &c., at an annual rent of six marks, the said Richard to perform the office of bailiff of the manor and to collect the rents. In witness whereof the seal of John Harecourt, Esq., the seneschal there, is appended; and the deed is further attested by Edward Paternoster and William Collewiche, Esquires ("Newport Evidences"). The right of John Stokes to the manor of Church Eaton was by him disposed of, as we shall see, to the Earl of Stafford."
Here she is identfied as Isabel Peshall and given three husbands.
D. Tresswell & Vincent, Visitation of Shropshire, 1623, sub Needham of Shavington, pps 372-374. Collections for a History of Staffordshire, Vol, IV, (1883), part two, pps 1-16.
Thomas & Isabella had a son, Thomas and possibly other children.
National Archives of the United Kingdom: 15th Centry - These documents are held at Shropshire Archives - Language: French
Contents: Thomas Neuport esquier Instructions for levying a fine to Umfrey de Halughton esq, Master Nichol de Peshale, Master Thomas Neuport and Roger Louete clerks and to the heirs of the said Roger, of the manor of Ercalewe and appurtenances in co Salop (which manor they have by feoffment of the said Thomas Neuport esq, and also in the same fine the reversion of the manors of Longeford co Salop and Churche Byton co Staffs and their appurtenances (which Robert Fraunceys and Isabella his wife hold for the term of Isabella's life) and the reversion of 1/5th part of the manor of Weston sougthe Lesezard co Staffs (which Adam de Peshale knight holds for term of his life), which after the deaths of Isabella and Adam descend to the said Thomas Neuport esq and his heirs, to remain to the said Umfrey, Nichol, Thomas and Roger and Roger's heirs; and also to speak to David Huls or Thomas Huls living in Greys Ynne to prepare two letters of covenants for levying the said fine directed to the Sheriffs of Salop and Staffs specifying the parties and names of the manors and reversions and their appurtenances to levy the said fine at the Octe of Michaelmas next
Robert Fraunceys was dead by 1432; Isabella his wife survived him. See Byton VIII 114.
E. National Archives of the United Kingdom: 15th Centry -
These documents are held at Shropshire Archives
Language: French
Contents:
Thomas Neuport esquier Instructions for levying a fine to Umfrey de Halughton esq, Master Nichol de Peshale, Master Thomas Neuport and Roger Louete clerks and to the heirs of the said Roger, of the manor of Ercalewe and appurtenances in co Salop (which manor they have by feoffment of the said Thomas Neuport esq, and also in the same fine the reversion of the manors of Longeford co Salop and Churche Byton co Staffs and their appurtenances (which Robert Fraunceys and Isabella his wife hold for the term of Isabella's life) and the reversion of 1/5th part of the manor of Weston sougthe Lesezard co Staffs (which Adam de Peshale knight holds for term of his life), which after the deaths of Isabella and Adam descend to the said Thomas Neuport esq and his heirs, to remain to the said Umfrey, Nichol, Thomas and Roger and Roger's heirs; and also to speak to David Huls or Thomas Huls living in Greys Ynne to prepare two letters of covenants for levying the said fine directed to the Sheriffs of Salop and Staffs specifying the parties and names of the manors and reversions and their appurtenances to levy the said fine at the Octe of Michaelmas next
Robert Fraunceys was dead by 1432; Isabella his wife survived him. See Byton VIII 114.
Edited by The William Salt Archeological Society, Collections for a History of Staffordshire, Volume II: page 154-155 - ... the said Thomas Newport by the name of Thomas Gech
In Easter term 21 Richard II [1398] Thomas Gech & Isabell, his wife, and Thomas, son of Thomas Gech, sued Pether de Cavereswalle & Mary, his wife, for waste and destructionof houses, woods & gardens in Ercalwe which Peter & Mary held for their lives and which should revert to the plaintiffs.
Ref: AR 6: 50. Collections for a History of Staffordshire, Vol, IV, (1883), part two, pps 1-16. Payling: 233 & 241. S. M. Wright, Derbyshire Gentry, Derbyshire Record Society, viii, appendix 5a. HoP (1386), II: 593 and III: 121. Genealogist, VII, pps 134-135. The Genealogist, Vol. VII, pps 134-135. Henry Chitty and John Phillipot, The Visitation of the County of Gloucester, 1623, London (1885), pps 214-215. John Tilley, The Old Halls, Manors and Families of Derbyshire, Vol. IV, (1902), Appendix, Armory of Repton and Morleston. http://www.historyofparliamentonline.org/volume/1386-1421/member/francis-sir-robert-141920.
Note chronological problem. If Isabel was daughter of the Adam who died in 1346 how could she have so many children beginning in 1392 (or 1398)? Perhaps two Isabels have been conflated. HoP calls her Isabel widow of Thomas Brumpton and says m. by Easter 1392.
Douglas Richardson's account appears to show that two Isabels have been conflated.
Can anyone shed any light on this Isabel(s)??
Doug Smith
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