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Dcrdcr4

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Jan 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/21/99
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Does anyone have any information on the White family of Farnham, Surrey and
South Warnborough, Hants. I am interested in this line:

1. Robert White, of Farnham, merchant of the Staple of Calais, married Alice

2. John White, Gent., of Farnham and South Warnborough, died 1469, married
Eleanor, daughter of Robert Hungerford, Lord Hungerford. She married (2nd)
1470, Sir William Tyrrell, Knt., of Warley, Essex, and (3rd) by 1475, Sir Henry
Fitz Lewis of Nevendon, Essex and London.

3. Robert White, of Farnham and South Warnborough, born c. 1456, died 1518,
married Margaret Gainsford

4. Margaret White, married John Kirton, and her sister, Anne White, married
Nicholas Tichborne.


Henry Sutliff

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Jan 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/21/99
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Dcrdcr4 wrote:

Although I cannot specifically extend your knowledge about these generations, I
thought I would extend a word of caution. There may be some problems with this data
if you are trying to relate it to Robert White of Messing, Essex (d. 1617) and his
wife Bridget Allgar. They are ancestors of among others: Ulysses S. Grant, Millard
Fillmore, Gerald Ford, Grover Cleveland and Emily Dickinson (see: Gary Boyd
Roberts' Ancestors of American Presidents and also Roberts' Notable Kin vol. I).

If the Hungerford marriage is valid, this would give a Royal Descent not currently
accepted as valid. I believe the break in the link is in trying to relate the Essex
Whites to the Surrey/Hampshire family. You can find this descent in numerous
locations on the web, but as yet I have not seen any documentation.

However if your query was unrelated to the Essex Whites, forgive my interruption of
your search.

Best of luck,

Henry Sutliff


Benjamin Hertzel

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Jan 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/21/99
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> Does anyone have any information on the White family of Farnham, Surrey and
> South Warnborough, Hants. I am interested in this line:
>
> 1. Robert White, of Farnham, merchant of the Staple of Calais, married Alice
>
> 2. John White, Gent., of Farnham and South Warnborough, died 1469, married
> Eleanor, daughter of Robert Hungerford, Lord Hungerford. She married (2nd)
> 1470, Sir William Tyrrell, Knt., of Warley, Essex, and (3rd) by 1475, Sir Henry
> Fitz Lewis of Nevendon, Essex and London.
>
> 3. Robert White, of Farnham and South Warnborough, born c. 1456, died 1518,
> married Margaret Gainsford
>
> 4. Margaret White, married John Kirton, and her sister, Anne White, married
> Nicholas Tichborne.

I, too have a number of disconnected Whites that I would like to sort out.
I have the above lineage, with the inclusion of another sister to #4:
Mary White, who married Nicholas Tichborne's brother, Walter.

I also have:

Frances White, (1622 - 1667) married to Richard Wells, son of John Wells
and Elizabeth Ellyot;

Frances White, married to Thomas Yates (1515 - 1550) of Lyford, Wiltshire;

Robert White, father of Anne White and James White. Anne married Nicholas
Tichborne (great-grandfather of the above Nicholas Tichborne, who married
Anne White); and

George White/Whyte (1510 - 1584) who married Katherine Strode and was the
father of Richard White.

All these Whites are dead ends for me. I have been told that White
lineages can be found in Berry's Genealogies, (Hampshire, Kent, Essex),
but I do not know what these references are, and can't find listings for
anything by that title or author here in Minnesota.

Any help on this disjointed family would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you.

Benjamin


Henry Sutliff

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Jan 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/21/99
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From: ss...@earthlink.net (Henry Sutliff)
Date: 21 Jan 1999 12:21:33 -0800
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Dcrdcr4 wrote:

> Does anyone have any information on the White family of Farnham, Surrey and
> South Warnborough, Hants. I am interested in this line:
>
> 1. Robert White, of Farnham, merchant of the Staple of Calais, married Alice
>
> 2. John White, Gent., of Farnham and South Warnborough, died 1469, married
> Eleanor, daughter of Robert Hungerford, Lord Hungerford. She married (2nd)
> 1470, Sir William Tyrrell, Knt., of Warley, Essex, and (3rd) by 1475, Sir
Henry
> Fitz Lewis of Nevendon, Essex and London.
>
> 3. Robert White, of Farnham and South Warnborough, born c. 1456, died 1518,
> married Margaret Gainsford
>
> 4. Margaret White, married John Kirton, and her sister, Anne White, married
> Nicholas Tichborne.

Although I cannot specifically extend your knowledge about these generations, I


thought I would extend a word of caution. There may be some problems with this
data
if you are trying to relate it to Robert White of Messing, Essex (d. 1617) and
his
wife Bridget Allgar. They are ancestors of among others: Ulysses S. Grant,
Millard
Fillmore, Gerald Ford, Grover Cleveland and Emily Dickinson (see: Gary Boyd
Roberts' Ancestors of American Presidents and also Roberts' Notable Kin vol.
I).

If the Hungerford marriage is valid, this would give a Royal Descent not
currently
accepted as valid. I believe the break in the link is in trying to relate the
Essex
Whites to the Surrey/Hampshire family. You can find this descent in numerous
locations on the web, but as yet I have not seen any documentation.

However if your query was unrelated to the Essex Whites, forgive my
interruption of
your search.

Best of luck,

Henry Sutliff

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Dcrdcr4

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Jan 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/22/99
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Hi Henry:

Yes, the White family of Surrey and Hampshire did have a cadet branch in Essex
but it is not the family that you mention. The Surrey and Hampshire White
family is ancestral to Edward Rainsford of Mass. and George Yate of Maryland.
Yes, you are correct, the Hungerford marriage is an all new discovery. You
can find many such new discoveries in my forthcoming book, Magna Carta
Ancestrty, which I am co-authoring with David Faris. The book should be
finished within the next month and available for purchase from GPC in about two
months' time.

Dcrdcr4

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Jan 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/22/99
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Hi Benjamin:

Are any of these Whites in your line? Please advice. Douglas Richardson

Benjamin Hertzel

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Jan 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/23/99
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Douglas,

You mentioned in a previous previous posting that Robert White (ca 1456 -
1518) who married Margaret Gainsford (any information on this Gainsford
connection?) was the son of John White and Eleanor, daughter of Robert
Hungerford, Lord Hungerford. What is your source for this? The only
Robert, Lord Hungerford I can find (for this time period) was married to
Eleanor Molines. Burke's Dormant and Extinct Peerages mentions four
children for Eleanor: Thomas, Walter, Leonard, and Fridiswide... no
Eleanor. Can you provide details for this fifth child?

Thank you.

Benjamin


Dcrdcr4

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Jan 24, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/24/99
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Hi Benjamin:

Eleanor Hungerford, wife successively of John White, Gent., Sir William Tyrrell
and Sir Henry Fitz Lewis, was the daughter of Robert Hungerford, Lord
Hungerford and his wife, Margaret Botreaux. Eleanor appears to have been born
somewhere about 1433-1435, as her third husband was born no earlier than 1433.
Her brother, Robert Hungerford, Jr., was born circa 1429, as he was aged
thirty in 1459. Eleanor had her first known child by her White marriage in
1456.

Eleanor is specifically mentioned in the visitations of Hampshire and Essex as
being the daughter of Robert, Lord Hungerford. She is not mentioned in the
Hungerford pedigree in the visitation of Gloucester. But, she had at least one
sister, Mary, who also wasn't mentioned in the Hungerford pedigree in the
Gloucester visitation.

You have the children right for the next generation. However, it appears that
Eleanor Moleyns had TWO daughters named Frideswide, not one. One of them was
by her Hungerford marriage, and the other was by her Manningham marriage. The
Hungerford girl named Frideswide lived to adulthood and became a nun, the
Manningham girl named Frideswide married and left issue.

All for now. As ever, Douglas Richardson


ED MANN

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Jan 24, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/24/99
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It might also be an unmentioned child of his father, the 2d Lord
Hungerford, who was also named RObert:

Descendants of Walter Hungerford

1 Sir Walter Hungerford aka: 1st Lord Hungerford b: Abt. 1378 d: 9
Aug 1449 ref #: BxP:291
+Katherine Peverell ref #: BxP:291
2 Sir Robert Hungerford aka: 2d Lord Hungerford b: Abt. 1409 d: 18
May 1493 ref #: BxP:291
+Margaret de Botreaux b: Bef. 1412 d: 7 Feb 1477/78 ref #: F31:11
3 Sir Robert Hungerford aka: 3d Lord Hungerford / 1st Lord de Moleyns
b: Bef. 1429 d: 18 May 1464 ref #: F32:10
+Alianor Moleyns d: 1476 ref #: BPci:2084
3 Katherine Hungerford d: 12 May 1493 ref #: BxP:291
+Nicholas Leventhorpe
*2nd Husband of Katherine Hungerford:
+Sir Richard West aka: 4th Lord West b: Abt. 28 Oct 1430 d: 10 Mar
1475/76 ref #: F142:7
2 Elizabeth Hungerford d: 14 Dec 1476 ref #: BxP:291
+Sir Philip Courtenay b: 1404 d: 16 Dec 1463 ref #: F72:7
3 Sir Philip Courtenay d: Aft. 1470 ref #: F73:6
+Elizabeth Hingeston ref #: (Ä51-36)
*2nd Wife of Walter Hungerford:
+Alainor Berkeley ref #: BPci:2084

--
FWIW; AFAIK; IMHO; YMMV; yadda, yadda, yadda.

Regards, Ed Mann mailto:edl...@mail2.lcia.com

References:
Ä = Weis, _Ancestral_Roots_, 7th ed.
AACPW = Roberts & Reitwiesner, _American Ancestors and Cousins of
the Princess of Wales_, [page].
AAP = Roberts, _Ancestors_of_American_Presidents_, [page] or
[Pres. # : page].
BP1 = _Burke's_Presidential_Families_, 1st ed. [page].
BPci = _Burke's_Peerage_, 101st ed., [page].
BRF = Weir, _Britain's_Royal_Families_, [page].
BxP = _Burke's_Dormant_&_Extinct_Peerages_, [page].
EC1 = Redlich, _Emperor_Charlemagne's_Descendants_, Vol I, [page].
EC2 = Langston & Buck, _Emperor_Charlemagne's_Descendants_, Vol II,
[page].
EC3 = Buck & Beard, _Emperor_Charlemagne's_Descendants_, Vol II,
[page].
F = Faris, _Plantagenet_Ancestry_, [page:para].
NK1 = Roberts, _Notable_Kin_Volume_One_, [page].
Œ = Hardy, _Colonial_Families_of_the_Southern_States_of_America_,
[page].
S = Stuart, _Royalty_for_Commoners_, 2d ed. Caveat emptor.
W = Weis, _Magna_Charta_Sureties,_1215_, 4th ed.
WFT = Broderbund's World Family Tree CD, [vol]:[num] Caveat emptor.
WMC = Wurt's Magna Charta, [vol]:[page]

Benjamin Hertzel

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Jan 24, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/24/99
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Ed (and Richard),

Thanks for the Hungerford/White information.

> Descendants of Walter Hungerford
>
> 1 Sir Walter Hungerford aka: 1st Lord Hungerford
b: Abt. 1378 d: 9 Aug 1449 ref #: BxP:291
> +Katherine Peverell ref #: BxP:291
> 2 Sir Robert Hungerford aka: 2d Lord Hungerford
b: Abt. 1409 d: 18 May 1493 ref #: BxP:291
> +Margaret de Botreaux
b: Bef. 1412 d: 7 Feb 1477/78 ref #: F31:11
> 3 Sir Robert Hungerford aka: 3d Lord Hungerford / 1st Lord de Moleyns
> b: Bef. 1429 d: 18 May 1464 ref #: F32:10
> +Alianor Moleyns d: 1476 ref #: BPci:2084
> 3 Katherine Hungerford d: 12 May 1493 ref #: BxP:291
> +Nicholas Leventhorpe
> *2nd Husband of Katherine Hungerford:
> +Sir Richard West aka: 4th Lord West

b: 28 Oct 1430 d: 10 Mar 1475/76 ref #: F142:7


> 2 Elizabeth Hungerford d: 14 Dec 1476 ref #: BxP:291
> +Sir Philip Courtenay
b: 1404 d: 16 Dec 1463 ref #: F72:7
> 3 Sir Philip Courtenay d: Aft. 1470 ref #: F73:6
> +Elizabeth Hingeston ref #: (Ä51-36)
> *2nd Wife of Walter Hungerford:
> +Alainor Berkeley ref #: BPci:2084

I think it was in an earlier posting here, that referred to the
Hungerfords (or maybe to a Hungerford spouse) as a direct descendent of
Edward III. Any information as to whethere or not this is this correct?

Also, do you know if (and therefore how) Sir Philip Courtenay fits into
the Courtenay family?

Thank you.

Benjamin


ED MANN

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Jan 24, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/24/99
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Benjamin Hertzel wrote:

<edited>

> I think it was in an earlier posting here, that referred to the
> Hungerfords (or maybe to a Hungerford spouse) as a direct descendent of
> Edward III. Any information as to whethere or not this is this correct?

In terms of the Lords Huggerford, Henry III is the best I can do:

Direct Descendants of Henry III of England

1 King Henry III of England b: 1 Oct 1207 d: 12 Nov 1272 ref #:
F225:15
+Éléonore de Provence b: Abt. 1217 d: 25 Jun 1291 ref #: Ä111-30
2 Edmund Plantagenet aka: 1st Earl of Lancaster "Crouchback" b: 16
Jan 1244/45 d: 5 Jun 1296 ref #: F152:14
*2nd Wife of Edmund Plantagenet:
+Blanche de Artois b: Abt. 1248 d: 2 May 1302 ref #: Ä45-30
3 Sir Henry Plantagenet aka: 3d Earl of Lancaster b: Abt. 1281 d: 22
Sep 1345 ref #: F153:13
+Maud de Chaworth b: 1282 d: Abt. 1320 ref #: W4-6
4 Alianor Plantagenet aka: Eleanor de Lancaster b: Abt. 1318 d: 11
Jan 1371/72 ref #: F186:10
+Sir John de Beaumont aka: 2d Lord Beaumont b: Abt. 1318 d: May 1342
ref #: Ä114-31
5 Sir Henry de Beaumont aka: 3d Lord Beaumont b: 1340 d: 17 Jun 1369
ref #: F186:9
+Margaret de Vere d: 15 Jun 1398 ref #: W120-6
6 Sir John de Beaumont aka: 4th Lord Beaumont b: Abt. 1361 d: 9 Sep
1396 ref #: F187:8
+Katherine Everingham
7 Elizabeth de Beaumont d: 1488 ref #: F31:12
*2nd Husband of Elizabeth de Beaumont:
+Sir William de Botreaux aka: 3d Lord Botreaux b: 20 Feb 1388/89 d:
16 May 1462 ref #: (Ä51A-35)
8 Margaret de Botreaux b: Bef. 1412 d: 7 Feb 1477/78 ref #: F31:11
+Sir Robert Hungerford aka: 2d Lord Hungerford b: Abt. 1409 d: 18


May 1493 ref #: BxP:291

9 Sir Robert Hungerford aka: 3d Lord Hungerford / 1st Lord de Moleyns


b: Bef. 1429 d: 18 May 1464 ref #: F32:10

> Also, do you know if (and therefore how) Sir Philip Courtenay fits into
> the Courtenay family?

Direct Descendants of Renaud de Courtenay

1 Renaud de Courtenay b: Abt. 1125 d: Abt. Nov 1190 ref #: Ä138-24
2 Reginald de Courtenay aka: Renaud de Courtenay b: Abt. 1150 d: 27
Sep 1194 ref #: Ä138-25
+Hawise de Courcy d: 31 Jul 1219 ref #: (Ä138-25)
3 Sir Robert de Courtenay aka: Baron of Oakhampton b: Abt. 1183 d: 27
Jul 1242 ref #: Ä138-26
+Mary de Vernon ref #: Ä50-28
4 Sir John de Courtenay b: Abt. 1218 d: 3 May 1274 ref #: Ä50-29
+Isabel de Vere b: Abt. 1222 d: Aft. 1298 ref #: W124-2
5 Sir Hugh de Courtenay aka: 3d Baron of Oakhampton b: 25 Mar 1249 d:
28 Feb 1290/91 ref #: W124-3
+Eleanor le Despenser d: 30 Sep 1328 ref #: (Ä222-34)
6 Sir Hugh de Courtenay aka: 1st Earl of Devon d: 23 Dec 1340 ref #:
W125-4
+Agnes de St. John d: 11 Jun 1345 ref #: Ä262-32
7 Sir Hugh de Courtenay aka: K.G. / 2d Earl of Devon b: 12 Jul 1303
d: 2 May 1377 ref #: W126-5
+Margaret de Bohun b: 3 Apr 1311 d: 16 Dec 1391 ref #: F72:10
8 Sir Philip de Courtenay d: 29 Jul 1406 ref #: F72:9
+Anne Wake ref #: (Ä51-33)
9 Sir John Courtenay d: Bef. 1415 ref #: F72:8
+Joan Champernoun aka: Agnes Champernoun d: 1419 ref #: (Ä51-34)
10 Sir Philip Courtenay b: 1404 d: 16 Dec 1463 ref #: F72:7

Henry Sutliff

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Jan 24, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/24/99
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Benjamin Hertzel wrote:

> Also, do you know if (and therefore how) Sir Philip Courtenay fits into
> the Courtenay family?
>

> Thank you.
>
> Benjamin

I hope someone will correct this if in error:

01 - Philip de Courtenay (of Powderham Castle, Devon) (1404-16 Dec 1463)
02 - John de Courtenay (d. bef 1415)
03 - Joan Champernoun/Champernowne (d. 1419)
04 - Philip de Courtenay (d. 29 Jul 1406)
05 - Anne Wake (of Blisworth, Northampton) (d. 1390)
06 - Richard III de Champernoun (of Modbury, Devon) (d. 1419)
07 - Alice de Astley (of Bere Ferrers, Devon)
08 - Hugh de Courtenay (of Okehampton, Devon) (12 Jul 1303-2 May 1377)
09 - Margaret de Bohun (3 Apr 1311 - 16 Dec 1391)
10 - Thomas Wake (d. 1383)
11 - Alice de Pateshull (d. 10 Aug 1398)

Best regards,

Henry Sutliff


David Collyer

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Jan 24, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/24/99
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Dear Friends,
Someone mention recently that one of the WHITE family from the Isle of
Wight had been knighted. Could anyone enlighten me further as to who he
was? THanks
David in Ballarat, Victoria, Australia

KRot...@aol.com

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Jan 24, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/24/99
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I have been passing over the discussion of the WHITES of FARNHAM, as I do not
have any connection to them (at least yet). However, while cleaning my room
today, I found a booklet I had picked up in a used book store a year ago. it
is titled " Pedigrees of WHYTE, or WHITE, of FARNHAM, co. SURREY; ALDERSHOT,
SOUTH WARNBOROUGH, and BASINGSTOKE, co. HANTS; and HUTTON, co. ESSEX; and A
NOTE ON THE YATELEY CUP" by HENRY CURTIS, F.R.C.S. (Ret.) 1936
After checking some of the emails I had not deleted, I saw one message about
the GAINSFORD connection. This booklet has the GAINSFORD line back 5
generation to 1413, apparentely thru the Visitations of Surrey in 1530, 1572,
and 1623. It has the names of the wifes with each generation fior the three
latest generations.
This booklet has a lot of detail and is well sourced it appears. If anyone
would like any info from it, let me know

Richard H Renold

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Jan 30, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/30/99
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ja...@midas.millcomm.com (Benjamin Hertzel) wrote:

>> Descendants of Walter Hungerford
>>
>> 1 Sir Walter Hungerford aka: 1st Lord Hungerford
> b: Abt. 1378 d: 9 Aug 1449 ref #: BxP:291
>> +Katherine Peverell ref #: BxP:291

>> 2 Sir Robert Hungerford aka: 2d Lord Hungerford

> b: Abt. 1409 d: 18 May 1493 ref #: BxP:291

>> +Margaret de Botreaux

> b: Bef. 1412 d: 7 Feb 1477/78 ref #: F31:11

>> 3 Sir Robert Hungerford aka: 3d Lord Hungerford / 1st Lord de Moleyns


>> b: Bef. 1429 d: 18 May 1464 ref #: F32:10

>> +Alianor Moleyns d: 1476 ref #: BPci:2084
>

>I think it was in an earlier posting here, that referred to the
>Hungerfords (or maybe to a Hungerford spouse) as a direct descendent of
>Edward III. Any information as to whethere or not this is this correct?
>

Not Edward III, but Walter, 1st Lord Hungerford's wife Katherine
Peverell (and thus of course all their descendants) has a descent
from Henry I:

1. Henry I, King of England and Sibyl Corbet
2. Reynold (Reginald or Rainald) "FitzRoy" ,
Earl of Cornwall (illegitimate) and Beatrice
3. Maud FitzReginald and Robert, Count of Meulan
4. Mabel (Mabirle) and William de Reviers (de Vernon), 5th Earl of
Devon
5. Mary de Reviers and Robert de Courtenay
6. John de Courtenay and Isabel de Vere
7. Hugh de Courtenay and Eleanor le Despenser
8. Hugh de Courtenay, 1st Earl of Devon and Agnes de St. John
9. Thomas de Courtenay and Muriel de Moels
10. Margaret de Courtenay and Sir Thomas Peverell
11. Katherine Peverell, Lady Hungerford

All found in CP.


Richard Renold
Lichfield, Staffs., UK
(ren...@brunel.co.uk)

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Dee Horn

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i have tyrell/terrell in my family tree but not sure if i am that far back yet will check
Dee Horn

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Subject: Re: White family of Farnham, Surrey and South Warnborough, Hants

On Thursday, January 21, 1999 at 3:00:00 AM UTC-5, Dcrdcr4 wrote:
> Does anyone have any information on the White family of Farnham, Surrey and
> South Warnborough, Hants.  I am interested in this line:
>
> 1. Robert White, of Farnham, merchant of the Staple of Calais, married Alice
>
> 2. John White, Gent., of Farnham and South Warnborough, died 1469, married
> Eleanor, daughter of Robert Hungerford, Lord Hungerford.  She married (2nd)
> 1470, Sir William Tyrrell, Knt., of Warley, Essex, and (3rd) by 1475, Sir Henry
> Fitz Lewis of Nevendon, Essex and London.
>
> 3. Robert White, of Farnham and South Warnborough, born c. 1456, died 1518,
> married Margaret Gainsford
>
> 4. Margaret White, married John Kirton, and her sister, Anne White, married
> Nicholas Tichborne.


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rosemar...@gmail.com

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On Thursday, January 21, 1999 at 8:00:00 AM UTC, Dcrdcr4 wrote:
> Does anyone have any information on the White family of Farnham, Surrey and
> South Warnborough, Hants. I am interested in this line:
>
> 1. Robert White, of Farnham, merchant of the Staple of Calais, married Alice
>
> 2. John White, Gent., of Farnham and South Warnborough, died 1469, married
> Eleanor, daughter of Robert Hungerford, Lord Hungerford. She married (2nd)
> 1470, Sir William Tyrrell, Knt., of Warley, Essex, and (3rd) by 1475, Sir Henry
> Fitz Lewis of Nevendon, Essex and London.
>
> 3. Robert White, of Farnham and South Warnborough, born c. 1456, died 1518,
> married Margaret Gainsford
>
> 4. Margaret White, married John Kirton, and her sister, Anne White, married
> Nicholas Tichborne.

In 17th century, White Tichborne married a female Shudd, Elizabeth, I think, but she died soon afterwards, and buried in Thursley or Witley, in Surrey. Her mother was Elizabeth too; then WT then married again.

andrewhen...@googlemail.com

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Hi, not sure if anyone is still around from this group. I am intrigued to know if the Whites of South Warnborough have any living descendants. I see the late Medieval / Tudor ones every week as I am church warden of South Warnborough.

Andrew Henderson

wjhonson

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Jul 17, 2018, 1:58:12 PM7/17/18
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John Monson, 1st Baron Monson, is a descendant of this family
And he has living descendants

https://worldconnect.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=DESC&db=wjhonson&id=I163455

John Higgins

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Jul 17, 2018, 7:43:35 PM7/17/18
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Why single out an obscure 18th-century peer who (unsurprisingly) has living descendants and happens to be descended from the Whites of South Warnborough? There are at least several dozen present peers who also descend from this family. I can quickly come up with at least 50. Here's one of them:
http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00000172&tree=LEO

But this is really pointless, since I doubt that this was what the original poster was looking for when he posed the question.

wjhonson

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Jul 18, 2018, 12:51:47 PM7/18/18
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I wasn't responding to the original poster, but rather the last poster.
The question was only "Are there" and my answer is "Yes".
That there are more than one, doesn't add any value.

John Higgins

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I was talking about the original poster of *this* question - about living descendants of the family of White of South Warnsborough. And, although the question wasn't worded too specifically, it was clear from the context that he was talking about living White family members - if there are any.

wjhonson

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On Friday, July 13, 2018 at 7:18:30 AM UTC-7, andrewhen...@googlemail.com wrote:
> Hi, not sure if anyone is still around from this group. I am intrigued to know if the Whites of South Warnborough have any living descendants. I see the late Medieval / Tudor ones every week as I am church warden of South Warnborough.
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> Andrew Henderson
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There are no known living "WHITES" who descend from this family, but there are many living "descendants".



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I have this line on my Ancestry tree. John White married Eleanor Hungerford. Parents on John, Robert White and Alice Lymhornne. Robert's parents were John White and Sarah Bridget. Please contact me at e-mail: redr...@csolve.net
Cheers, Derk

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On Sunday, November 25, 2018 at 11:08:15 AM UTC-8, redr...@csolve.net wrote:
> Hello, I have in my Ancestry Tree, John White born 1422 and 1462 and married Eleanor Hungerford.If you wish more information on this line which goes up to King Henry III please e-mail me and I will send you an invitation to my tree. My e-mail is redr...@csolve.net Cheers, Derk Sherren.

Well he wasn't born in 1422, that's just someone's unsupported guess. Also he didn't die in 1462.

But on the note of this Henry III ascent, you're speaking of the wife's family

https://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=PED&db=wjhonson&id=I169167&style=TEXT

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