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Mayne of Bovingdon (1) - A possible connection to Gould of Bovingdon.
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David Topping
Jul 22, 2017, 2:10:30 PM7/22/17
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In January 2015 I posted on the maternal ancestry of Henry Mayne (died 1605) of Bovingdon, Herts:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/soc.genealogy.medieval/%22henry$20mayne%22/soc.genealogy.medieval/GeF-kfiv61w/OB6Nyxfv_NMJ
I have since traced the 1556 will (made 19th August) of Richard Mayne of Bovingdon which is held at Huntingdon Archives. There is also a 1541 will of a Robert Mayne of Hemel Hempstead (Bovingdon was part of the parish of Hemel Hempstead). I cannot, at the moment, link the two together, especially as the latter is particularly hard to read.
There is nothing in Richard's will which links him to the Mayne's of Ascott in Wing as suggested in the Buckinghamshire visitations. I suspect this might have been introduced to justify a later Symon Mayne using the same arms as the Wing Maynes, but cannot be sure.
His wife and children are, however, all mentioned - wife Agnes (as expected), sons William, Henry and Richard and daughters Alice and Brigitte. The sons inherit various freeholds and tenements. It is interesting that most of these properties can be traced through the feet of fines records and seem to have been acquired during the 1550s when Richard's brother-in-law (Henry Bradshaw (c. 1500-1553), Solicitor-General (1540), Attorney General (1545), and Chief Baron of the Exchequer (1552))would have been at his most influential. It is also interesting that Richard Mayne's will of 1556 and Henry Mayne's of 1604 are essentially structured and worded in the same way.
There is nothing particularly informative about the sons, but more might be revealed about the daughters. Provision is made for a future marriage for Brigitte. The Warwickshire Visitation names a daughter Elizabeth, later married to a brother of John Hodsdon, Kt. The Visitation of London, however, gives Nicholas Hoddesdon, brother of Christopher as the husband of a Mayne of Herts. The eldest son of this marriage was Henry Hoddesdon, rector of Islington. His mother, Brigitte, was buried Feb 1610 at St Mary's Islington. Her will (dated 4th Feb) is a record of her wish that her beneficiary should be Anne, her daughter-in-law and wife of her eldest son, Henry Hoddesdon, clerke. A bequest is made to the widow who is looking after Brigitte and the same lady is rewarded in Henry's will in 1617. It would seem, then, that it was Brigitte who married Nicholas Hoddesdon.
As no provision is made for a marriage for Alice, I would presume that she is already married. No husband is mentioned, but the only other beneficiaries in the will, listed straight after the two daughters are a Richard Golde and his sister Brigitte. The Warickshire Visitation calls this Alice “Alicia ux. Joh'is Gollol.”. Clearly, the surname here should be Gould, but I am not sure that John is correct. One of the overseers of Richard Mayne's will is Thomas Golde the younger.
The Gould family of Bovingdon is not one that I know well, but in “The Family of Zaccheus Gould of Topsfield” by Benjamin Apthorp Gould (1895) P. 11 is a family which looks possible:
https://archive.org/stream/familyzaccheusg00goulgoog#page/n31/mode/2up
Thomas Gould of Bovingdon born around 1500, son of Richard and Joan, d. 1547
= Alice (alive 1547) (Could she be Richard Mayne's daughter?)
Children:
Thomas Gould of Bovingdon born c. 1521 died c. 1561
John Gould the elder, died after 1559
Richard Gould of Stoke Mandeville born c. 1530 died c.1558
Joan Gould, of age 1546
Agnes Gould, of age 1546
Elizabeth Gould, not 18 in 1546
Bridget Gould, not 18 in 1546
John Gould the younger born c. 1538
I can see no other family with a brother, Richard to a sister, Brigitte, both probably alive in 1556. The chronology looks tight, but the early Bovingdon registers not being available, and the secondary sources seeming to be full of estimations, perhaps someone who knows this family could clarify or correct this as it might open up the Mayne, Bradshaw, Gurney ancestry for some of the Goulds of Bovingdon?
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/soc.genealogy.medieval/%22henry$20mayne%22/soc.genealogy.medieval/GeF-kfiv61w/OB6Nyxfv_NMJ
I have since traced the 1556 will (made 19th August) of Richard Mayne of Bovingdon which is held at Huntingdon Archives. There is also a 1541 will of a Robert Mayne of Hemel Hempstead (Bovingdon was part of the parish of Hemel Hempstead). I cannot, at the moment, link the two together, especially as the latter is particularly hard to read.
There is nothing in Richard's will which links him to the Mayne's of Ascott in Wing as suggested in the Buckinghamshire visitations. I suspect this might have been introduced to justify a later Symon Mayne using the same arms as the Wing Maynes, but cannot be sure.
His wife and children are, however, all mentioned - wife Agnes (as expected), sons William, Henry and Richard and daughters Alice and Brigitte. The sons inherit various freeholds and tenements. It is interesting that most of these properties can be traced through the feet of fines records and seem to have been acquired during the 1550s when Richard's brother-in-law (Henry Bradshaw (c. 1500-1553), Solicitor-General (1540), Attorney General (1545), and Chief Baron of the Exchequer (1552))would have been at his most influential. It is also interesting that Richard Mayne's will of 1556 and Henry Mayne's of 1604 are essentially structured and worded in the same way.
There is nothing particularly informative about the sons, but more might be revealed about the daughters. Provision is made for a future marriage for Brigitte. The Warwickshire Visitation names a daughter Elizabeth, later married to a brother of John Hodsdon, Kt. The Visitation of London, however, gives Nicholas Hoddesdon, brother of Christopher as the husband of a Mayne of Herts. The eldest son of this marriage was Henry Hoddesdon, rector of Islington. His mother, Brigitte, was buried Feb 1610 at St Mary's Islington. Her will (dated 4th Feb) is a record of her wish that her beneficiary should be Anne, her daughter-in-law and wife of her eldest son, Henry Hoddesdon, clerke. A bequest is made to the widow who is looking after Brigitte and the same lady is rewarded in Henry's will in 1617. It would seem, then, that it was Brigitte who married Nicholas Hoddesdon.
As no provision is made for a marriage for Alice, I would presume that she is already married. No husband is mentioned, but the only other beneficiaries in the will, listed straight after the two daughters are a Richard Golde and his sister Brigitte. The Warickshire Visitation calls this Alice “Alicia ux. Joh'is Gollol.”. Clearly, the surname here should be Gould, but I am not sure that John is correct. One of the overseers of Richard Mayne's will is Thomas Golde the younger.
The Gould family of Bovingdon is not one that I know well, but in “The Family of Zaccheus Gould of Topsfield” by Benjamin Apthorp Gould (1895) P. 11 is a family which looks possible:
https://archive.org/stream/familyzaccheusg00goulgoog#page/n31/mode/2up
Thomas Gould of Bovingdon born around 1500, son of Richard and Joan, d. 1547
= Alice (alive 1547) (Could she be Richard Mayne's daughter?)
Children:
Thomas Gould of Bovingdon born c. 1521 died c. 1561
John Gould the elder, died after 1559
Richard Gould of Stoke Mandeville born c. 1530 died c.1558
Joan Gould, of age 1546
Agnes Gould, of age 1546
Elizabeth Gould, not 18 in 1546
Bridget Gould, not 18 in 1546
John Gould the younger born c. 1538
I can see no other family with a brother, Richard to a sister, Brigitte, both probably alive in 1556. The chronology looks tight, but the early Bovingdon registers not being available, and the secondary sources seeming to be full of estimations, perhaps someone who knows this family could clarify or correct this as it might open up the Mayne, Bradshaw, Gurney ancestry for some of the Goulds of Bovingdon?
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