more Bassets
David Sanders
I have a couple groupings of the Basset family in my charts, culled
from LDS files, former postings on this newsgroup, etc. I'd really
appreciate it if someone could verify/refute these descents and add
some dates, wives' names, titles, and locations.
generation 1: Gilbert Basset m. Eglina de Courtenay
2. Thomas Basset m. alice de Dunstanville
3. Alan Basset
4. Philip Basset
5. Aline Basset, d. before 11 apr 1281
m. ca. 1239 Hugh le Despencer, executed 1265.
gen 1. Jordan Basset b. ca. 1135
2. Jordan, Henry, and Miles Basset - ca. 1165 - 1234
3. son of Miles: Miles Basset ca, 1200 - d. bef ore 1272
m. Agnes de Lascelles ca. 1205 - after 1272.
4. Miles Basset
Margery Basset b. ca. 1230
m. Nicholas de Stapleton ca. 1225- 1290.
5. Miles de Stapleton, d. at Bannockburn
cheers, Judith Sanders steppi@ abs.net
Richard Borthwick
At 12:54 AM 7/04/97 GMT, you wrote:
> I have a couple groupings of the Basset family in my charts, culled
>from LDS files, former postings on this newsgroup, etc. I'd really
>appreciate it if someone could verify/refute these descents and add
>some dates, wives' names, titles, and locations.
> 1. Thomas Basset (d.1180) of Colynton & Whtiford in
Dovon m. Alice de Dunstanville dau. of Alan
> 2. Gilbert Basset (d.1206) m. ? Egelina de Courtenay
3. Eustache Basset, heir, m. Richard de Camville
d.ca.1216
2. Alan Basset d.1232/33) of Colynton (as per
previous posting)
> 3. Gilbert dsp.
3. Fulk dsp
3. Philip Basset
> 4. Aline Basset, d. before 11 apr 1281
> m. ca. 1239 Hugh le Despencer, executed 1265.
> 3. Aline Basset m.1 Drogo de Montagu m.2 Richard
Talbot
> 3. N Basset m. John Lovel
2. Thomas Basset (d.1220) of Headington m. Philippa
Malbanc coheir of her father William. Issue 2 daus.
& coheirs
gen 1. Jordan Basset b. ca. 1135
> 2. Jordan, Henry, and Miles Basset - ca. 1165 - 1234
> 3. son of Miles: Miles Basset ca, 1200 - d. bef ore 1272
> m. Agnes de Lascelles ca. 1205 - after 1272.
> 4. Miles Basset
> Margery Basset b. ca. 1230
> m. Nicholas de Stapleton ca. 1225- 1290.
> 5. Miles de Stapleton, d. at Bannockburn
>
> cheers, Judith Sanders steppi@ abs.net
I am not sure where this second line of Bassets fit in to the whole Basset
picture and what their holdings were but will check it out.
>
Ed Mann
GE> I have a couple groupings of the Basset family in my charts, culled
GE>from LDS files, former postings on this newsgroup, etc. I'd really
GE>appreciate it if someone could verify/refute these descents and add
GE>some dates, wives' names, titles, and locations.
GE> generation 1: Gilbert Basset m. Eglina de Courtenay
I show that the Gilbert Bassett who was Thomas' father was a different
Gilbert, married to Edith d'Oilly. Also, although I have no recallable
source for these, I think the Gilbert married to Egeline de Courtenay is
actually the son of Thomas, not the father.
GE> 2. Thomas Basset m. alice de Dunstanville
GE> 3. Alan Basset
GE> 4. Philip Basset
Philip married Hawise de Louvaine, daughter of Matthew de Louvaine.
Unfortunately, I can't recall where I got this info.
GE> 5. Aline Basset, d. before 11 apr 1281
GE> m. ca. 1239 Hugh le Despencer, executed 1265.
GE>gen 1. Jordan Basset b. ca. 1135
GE> 2. Jordan, Henry, and Miles Basset - ca. 1165 - 1234
GE> 3. son of Miles: Miles Basset ca, 1200 - d. bef ore 1272
GE> m. Agnes de Lascelles ca. 1205 - after 1272.
GE> 4. Miles Basset
GE> Margery Basset b. ca. 1230
GE> m. Nicholas de Stapleton ca. 1225- 1290.
GE> 5. Miles de Stapleton, d. at Bannockburn
The only Miles de Stapleton I have was born ca. 1357, too late for you.
I have none of the second group of Basset(t)s listed.
Ed Mann
GE>Judith,
GE>> I have a couple groupings of the Basset family in my charts, culled
GE>>from LDS files, former postings on this newsgroup, etc. I'd really
GE>>appreciate it if someone could verify/refute these descents and add
GE>>some dates, wives' names, titles, and locations.
GE>> generation 1: Gilbert Basset m. Eglina de Courtenay
GE>> 3. Alan Basset
GE>> 4. Philip Basset
GE>> m. ca. 1239 Hugh le Despencer, executed 1265.
GE>I have Gilbert BASSET's wife as Edith d'OILLY (c.1110 - >1165), daughter of
GE>Robert II d'OILLY & Edith FitzFORNE.
It's a mish mash of two GIlberts. Thomas father is the GIlbert you
mention while his son Gilbert was married to Egeline de Courtenay.
David Collyer
Judith,
> I have a couple groupings of the Basset family in my charts, culled
> 4. Philip Basset
I have Gilbert BASSET's wife as Edith d'OILLY (c.1110 - >1165), daughter of
Robert II d'OILLY & Edith FitzFORNE.
Gilbert is son of Richard BASSET (c.1050 - > 1086); son of Osmund BASSET (>
1020 - > 1056)
Always open to refute though
Regards
David in Ballarat
Panshin
David Sanders wrote:
>
> I have a couple groupings of the Basset family in my charts, culled
> from LDS files, former postings on this newsgroup, etc. I'd really
> appreciate it if someone could verify/refute these descents and add
> some dates, wives' names, titles, and locations.
> > 2. Thomas Basset m. alice de Dunstanville
> 3. Alan Basset
> 4. Philip Basset
> 5. Aline Basset, d. before 11 apr 1281
> m. ca. 1239 Hugh le Despencer, executed 1265.
I also have the Thomas Basset line in my chart, leading to both Aline
and
Alice/Mabel (1184-1263) who married William Malet. But I have two other
Basset/Bassett lines that I've been wondering about as well. One is
Ralph
Basset (1300-41), married to Joan Sturdon, whose daughter Joan Basset
married Thomas Aylesbury.
The other is:
1. Ralph Bassett (1215-65) m. Margaret de Someri
2. Maud m. John de Grey
2. Ralph Bassett (1242-99/1300) m. Hawise
3. Ralph Bassett (1299/1300-1342) m. Joan de Grey
4. Margaret Bassett (c.1280-1337) m. Edmund
Stafford
Since Margaret is given as older than her father, there is clearly
something
wrong here, at least in the details. Can anyone help me sort this out
and
tell me if or how these lines are related?
Cory Panshin
Cynthia Reese
I am looking for information on Alan Basset, who had a daughter (name
unknown) that married WILLIAM DE LANVALLEL, and they had a daughter
HAWSIE DE LANVALLE that married JOHN DE BURGU (1210-1275). They had a son
JOHN DE BURGH that married CECILY DE BALIOL, and they had a daughter
MARGERY DE BURGH that married ROBERT BRUCE.
Any help on this line would be appreciated.
Cynthia Reese
Richard Borthwick
Hawise. *Complete Peerage* XII/1:173 has it wrong and CP II:3 note (f) has
it right.
The Ralph (d.1341) who married Joan was Ralph Basset of Great Weldon. CP
II:11 though CP does not identify Joan.
The Drayton and Weldon lines descend from Richard Basset of Drayton
(d.1135/46) and his wife , Maud Ridel dau. and heir of Geoffrey Ridel of
Drayton by his wife Geva dau. of Hugh "Lupus" earl of Chester (d.1101).
Richard Basset of Drayton was granted Great Weldon after 1122. Richard's
eldest son, Geoffrey, took for himself the name 'Ridel' but his successors
resumed the use of 'Basset'.
The Weldon succession. Richard of Drayton and Great Weldon (d.1135/46) -
Geoffrey (d.1180) - Richard (d.1217) - Ralph (d.1258) - Richard (d.1276) -
Ralph (d.1291) - Richard (d.1314) - Ralph (d.1341). I J Sanders *English
Baronies* pp.49-50, CP II: 9-11.
The Drayton succession. Richard of Drayton and Great Weldon (d.1135/46) -
Ralph (d.1160) - Ralph (d.1211) - Ralph (d.1254/61) - Ralph (d.1265) - Ralph
(d.1299). His dau., Margaret, was eventually heir in her issue of her great
nephew Ralph (d.1390). CP II:1 and Note (b), 2-3.
Thre Bassets of Sapcote and of Blore descend from the youngest son of
Richard Basset and Maud Ridel. His name was William.
I hope this is of some help.
Panshin
> Margaret (d.1337) was the daughter Ralph Basset of Drayton(d.1299/1300) and
> Hawise. *Complete Peerage* XII/1:173 has it wrong and CP II:3 note (f) has
> it right.
> The Weldon succession. Richard of Drayton and Great Weldon (d.1135/46) -
> Geoffrey (d.1180) - Richard (d.1217) - Ralph (d.1258) - Richard (d.1276) -
> Ralph (d.1291) - Richard (d.1314) - Ralph (d.1341). I J Sanders *English
> Baronies* pp.49-50, CP II: 9-11.
>
> The Drayton succession. Richard of Drayton and Great Weldon (d.1135/46) -
> Ralph (d.1160) - Ralph (d.1211) - Ralph (d.1254/61) - Ralph (d.1265) - Ralph
> (d.1299). His dau., Margaret, was eventually heir in her issue of her great
> nephew Ralph (d.1390). CP II:1 and Note (b), 2-3.
>
> I hope this is of some help.
Yes, thanks. It helps a lot.
Cory Panshin