Lathom of Lathom (ca. 1175-1370)
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Hello All,
The following detailed pedigree provides the documented descent of
Lathom of Lathom, from Robert fitz Henry, founder of Burscough priory,
down to Sir Thomas de Lathom (d. 17 Sept 1370), first member of the
family appearing in Weis' Magna Carta Sureties (5th ed.).
Several suggestions or questions still remain to be resolved:
1. It is alleged that Robert fitz Henry was the son of Henry
de Torbock or Tarbock, whose (younger ?) son Richard,
an historical individual, was the ancestor of Torbock of
Torbock (descendants of Oliver Mainwaring, take note).
2. The connection of the Lathom family with Ormskirk, Lancs.
supposedly originated with a marriage of Robert fitz Henry
to a daughter of one Orm 'Magnus' (who is also held to
have been a son-in-law of Theobald Walter, ancestor of the
Butlers of Ormonde & c.).
Through the descent to Stanley, Earls of Derby, and to Savile of
Thornhill (and of Copley), the Lathom family is ancestral to many
list members, not to mention the late Queen Mother, Lady Diana
Spencer, and a host too numerous to mention [see prior posts re: the
Savile families on SGM].
~ Note to Leo, Ian et al: the Genealogics identification numbers
for the first descendant (Lathom, Savile) now reflected on the
Genealogics webpage are given below for reference.
All relevant comment, criticism or added documentation is welcome,
as always.
Cheers,
John *
1 Robert fitz Henry de Lathom
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Father: Henry [allegedly Henry de Torbock]
of Lathom, co. Lancs.
' Robertus dominus de Lathom, filius Henrici ', founder of the
Augustinian priory of Burscough, ca. 1198:
' Notum sit omnibus sanctae matris ecclesiae filiis, tam prasentibus
quam futuris, quod ego Robertus dominus de Lathom, filius Henrici,
concessu haeredis mei, dedi et concessi, et hac praesenti carta[m]
mea[m] confirmavi Deo et ecclesiae beati Nicholai de Burscogh et
canonicis ibidem Deo regulariter servientibus, in puram et perpetuam
elemosinam, terram illam quae est in capite de Burscogh per divisum
terrae Stephani Calvi, usque at Egeacres; inter magnam viam de
Wirpilmosse et rivulum de Egeacres; et sic per rivulum de Egeakirs,
usque ad divisum inter Ormeskirk et Brakenthwayt; et sic usque ad
Scarth; et de Scarth usque ad Westhed; et de Westhed usque in rivulum
de Scakerdalecheved; et sic per rivulum usque ad radum qui radit de
Altona usque Urletonam; et de vado illo in transverso usque ad divisum
inter Gaufridum Travers et Stephanum Calvum; et totum nemus de
Grytteby cum exsartis circumjacentibus, scilicet terram Roberti
Carpentarii, cum Brakenthwaite, et terram Ricardi, junioris filii
Roberti et Amabillae sponsae suae, cum terra Mathei filii Baldewyni.'
[Mon. Angl. VI(1):458, Num. I[1]]
' Robertus dominus de Lathum', gave a charter to Burscough priory for
a 1/4 part of the manor of Dalton, 'illa scilicet parte quam Ada
filius Rierici de Acton eidem Roberto vendidit, cum omnibus
pertinentiis suis.'
Also, another charter to Burscough priory
' de tota terra Adae de Byrkes sine aliquo retenemento, quam de ipso
Roberto et patre suo tenuit, et quam etiam Ricardus frater praedicti
Roberti eisdem cum corpore suo legavit, cum communi pastura, et cum
omnibus asiamentis villae de Lathum pertinentibus, in liberam, puram,
et perpetuam elemosinam.' [Mon.Angl. VI(1):459, Num. I[1]]
Inspeximus of Edward II of England, of grants by Robert fitz Henry and
others, 29 Oct 1323 [Mon.Angl. VI(1):458-460[1]; summarized at A2A,
Lancashire Record Office: Stanley, Earls of Derby (of Knowsley)
[DDK/100 - DDK/240], DDK/128/1[2]]
Children: Richard
1.1 Richard de Lathom
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identified as father of Sir Robert de Lathom in a grant to Burscough
priory [' Robert filius Ricardi dominus de Lathum', Mon. Angl.
VI(1):459, Num. I] [1]
Children: Sir Robert
1.1.1 Sir Robert de Lathom
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of Lathom, co. Lancs.
' Sir Robert Lathum of Knowsley ', Sheriff of Lancashire, 1249 - 1255,
1264 - 1265 [3]
Charters for a market (Mon) and fair [vfm, Margaret (20 Jul)] granted
16 Jul 1252, by King Henry III to Robert de Lathun and Thomas de
Chaworthe and their heirs (CChR, 1226-57, p. 400), to be held at the
manor of Alfreton, co. Derbys.[4]
' Robert filius Ricardi dominus de Lathum', gave a charter to Burscough
priory for his land in Anleshargh called 'Swynleyhurst' [Mon. Angl.
VI(1):459, Num. I[1]]
' Grant: Robert, lord of Lathun, in his independent power and full
health, to Henry his son -- all the vills of Quithul and Wadaker --
rendering a pair of gloves. Witn. William, lord of Paverton, Alan lord
of Windhul, Thurstan of Holand, William of Molyneus. ' - A2A,
Lancashire Record Office: The Scarisbrick Muniments [DDSC 1 - DDSC
43A], DDSC 37/1[2]
' Confirmation: Robert son of Richard of Lathum to Walter of
Scharesbrec -- Hurlton and Scharesbrec, which Simon of Grubbeshevet
gave to Gilbert his brother -- rendering yearly 8/- ancient ferm.
Witn. Gilbert, lord of Halsal, Henry, lord of Thorboc, Alan of
Windul, Alan the Norrays, Robert Walens', John Walens', Madoc of
Acton, Roger of Holand. ' [Heraldic seal. SIG' ROBERT DOMINI D .... ]
- A2A, Lancashire Record Office: The Scarisbrick Muniments
[DDSC 1 - DDSC 43A], DDSC 26/5[2]
' Robert, lord of Lathum ', witness to grant by Walter of Scharisbreck
to Burscogh Priory of part of his land in Schares - A2A, Lancashire
Record Office: The Scarisbrick Muniments [DDSC 1 - DDSC 43A], DDSC
26/6[2]
Spouse: Amicia de Alfreton
Father: Robert de Alfreton, of Alfreton and Norton, co. Derbys.
Mother: Agnes
Marr: bef 16 Jul 1252[4]
Children: Sir Robert (-<1328)
Richard (->1320)
Henry
1.1.1.1 Sir Robert de Lathom
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Death: bef 5 Oct 1328[2]
of Lathom, co. Lancs.
‘ Roberto de Lathum ‘, knight, witness (together with Sir William le
Boteler, Sir Robert Banastre, Sir Robert de Holand and others) to
charter of Edmund, earl of Lancaster to the prior and canons of
Burscough for a market at the manor of Ormskirk, dated
in festo sancti Michaelis, 14 Edw. I (29 Sept 1286). [Inspeximus
of Edward II, Mon. Angl. VI(1):458[1]]
' Robert, Lord of Lathum ', witness (together with Lord William the
Bottler, Robert, Lord of Holland and others) to agreement dated Fri.
before Nativity St. John. Baptist. 26 Ed. son of Hen. [20 June 1298]:
' Agreement: William son. of Henry of Lee and William son of Henry
of Clifton - W.L. grant to W.C. 30 ac. land in Clifton Marsh, as an
improvement.
Witn: Lord William the Bottler, Robert, Lord of Lathum, Robert,
Lord of Holland, the Lord John Devias, the Lord Eustace of Cotesbek,
Thomas Banastre, Adam of Midilton, Robert of Haydock, Gilbert of
Syngleton, Robert of Condeclif John Banastre, Henry of Lee, John of
Burton, clerk. Given at...., Fri. before Nativity St. John. Baptist.
26 Ed. son of Hen.' - A2A, Lancashire Record Office: Clifton of
Lytham, Deeds and Documents : Clifton-with-Salwick. Clifton Marsh,
DDCL 1240[2]
' Lord Robert of Lathum ', witness (together with Lord John of
Hodeliston and others of a quitclaim of all services due from the
manor of Barton , dated at Lancaster, the Monday before the feast of
Tiberius and Valerianus, 32 Edward I [13 April 1304] - A2A,
Lancashire Record Office: Papers of the Kay Shuttleworth Family of
Gawthorpe [DDKS 1 - DDKS 16], DDKS 1/4[2]
Charters for a market (Fri) and fair [vfm, Wilfrid (12 Oct)] at Roby,
co. Lancs. granted 29 Jul 1304, by King Edward I to Robert de Lathom
(CChR, 1300–26, p. 46) 'To be held at the manor'[4]
Charters for a market (Tues) and fair [vfm, Barnabas (11 Jun)] at
Lathom, co. Lancs. granted 29 Jul 1304, by King Edward I to Robert
de Lathom (CChR, 1300–26, p. 46) 'To be held at the manor'[4]
' Sir Robert de Lathum', entered into agreement dated 2 Ed II
[1308-09] with Sir Hugh de Eland for the marriage of their children:
' Agreement for marriage between John, son of Sir Hugh de Eland' and
Alice daughter of Sir Robert de Lathum, providing for their ultimate
possession of Sir Hugh's lands in Eland', Tankerlay and Rochdale
(Elland, Yk Tankersley, Yk Rochdale, Yk) ' - A2A, Nottinghamshire
Archives: Savile of Rufford: Deeds and Estate Papers
[DD/SR/13 - DD/SR/205], DD/SR/28/3/1[2]
Grant dated [reign of Edward II, i.e. 1307-1327]:
' Parties Names: Richard de Lathum.
His brother Sui Robert de Lathum & Katerine his wife
Grant of le [...] Rosheheye with Turnoinsholm-upon-Dogeles in
Perbolde, formerly held [...] by Master Robert of Ryponne.
[...] Wiln William of Stonedyst, Thomas of Longetre, John of
Cleemale Henry of [...] Tunlegh, Henry of Wytton, John of de Cross,
Robert of the Taldeforth, Richard of [...] Bresthone '
- A2A, Lancashire Record Office: Stanley, Earls of Derby (of Knowsley)
[DDK/100 - DDK/240], Deeds and Conveyances: BURSCOUGH, DDK/133/1[2]
' Robert de Lathum....knight', witness (with William de Dacre and
others) to Grant by Richard de Loughteburgh to Henry fil. Thome de
Chernok, of all his land in Longerudyngh in Chorlegh, which he had by
grant from Richard del Haselhurst. Rent, 7 shillings, dated Boulton,
Sat. the F. of St. Mary Magd. [22 July] 29 Edw.I [1301] - A2A,
Lancashire Record Office: Tatton of Cuerden, CO. LANCASTER. CHARNOCK,
CHORLEY, ETC : DDTA 13[2]
' Robert de Lathum....knight', witness (with William de Dacre and
others) to Lease by Adam fil. Henrici de Chernok to Gilbert de
Bullyng, clerk, and his heirs, etc. for his life and for six years
after his death, of four pieces of land with buildings in Chorlegh
called, respectively, Le Merfeld, le Haukehurst, Haypughil and le
Lungeridyng, all of which Robert, the said Adam's brother held for
his life with common of pasture, quittance of pannage, etc. as is
contained in the charters of Richard de Lughteburgh; rent, a grain
of pepper at Midsummer, dated at Chorlegh, Fri. bef. Easter
[9 Apr.] 9 Edw. II [1316] - A2A, Lancashire Record Office: Tatton
of Cuerden, CO. LANCASTER. CHARNOCK, CHORLEY, ETC : DDTA 26[2]
Lease by Richard de Lathum to Robert de Lathum, his brother, and his
wife Katherine, dated 28 Oct 1320
- A2A, Manchester University, John Rylands Library: Rylands Charters
[RYCH/1 - RYCH/1942], NORTHWICH, WINNINGTON, etc. (co. Chester),
RYCH/872[2]
Spouse: Katherine de Knowsley
Father: Sir Thomas de Knowsley, of Knowsley, co. Lancs.
Children: Sir Thomas (-1370)
Alice
Philip
1.1.1.1.1 Sir Thomas de Lathom
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Death: 17 Sep 1370[5],[6]
knt., of Lathom, co. Lancs.
Genealogics I00384760[7]
' Sir Thomas, Lord of Lathum ', witness to quitclaim dated at Altekarr,
Wed. before St. Dennis Martyr, 2 Ed. III. [5 Oct. 1328]:
' Quitclaim: Richard son of Roger of Dounholand to the Abbey of
Miravalle -- a messuage, mill, 3 ac. land, 100 ac. meadow, 300 ac.
pasture, and 100 ac. wood in Altkarr, had from William de Ferrars,
Earl of Derbeye -- Witn. Sir Thomas, Lord of Lathum, Sir Peter, Lord
of Burnhill, Sir Robert, Lord of Scherbourn, Sir Richard, Lord of
Hoghton, John the Norreys, Richard the Waleys, William of the
Molineaux, William Blundel, Richard of Bolde, John of Horneby,
William of Duddeleye. Given at Altekarr, Wed. before St. Dennis
Martyr, 2 Ed. III.' - A2A, Lancashire Record Office: Clifton of
Lytham, Deeds and Documents : Altcar, DDCL 3[2]
Spouse: Eleanor de Ferrers
Father: Sir John de Ferrers (1271-1312)
Mother: Hawise de Muscegros (1276->1340)
Marr: bef 21 May 1329[6]
Children: Sir Thomas de Lathom(-<1382)
Sir Edward de Lathom
Robert de Lathom, prior of Burscough
1.1.1.1.2a Alice de Lathom*[9]
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Agreement dated 2 Ed II [1308-09]:
' Agreement for marriage between John, son of Sir Hugh de Eland' and
Alice daughter of Sir Robert de Lathum, providing for their ultimate
possession of Sir Hugh's lands in Eland', Tankerlay and Rochdale
(Elland, Yk Tankersley, Yk Rochdale, Yk) ' - A2A, Nottinghamshire
Archives: Savile of Rufford: Deeds and Estate Papers
[DD/SR/13 - DD/SR/205], DD/SR/28/3/1[2]
possibly called 'Alma' in error (or a transcription error) in undated
Memorandum - A2A, Nottinghamshire Archives: Savile of Rufford: Deeds
and Estate Papers [DD/SR/13 - DD/SR/205], DD/SR/28/1/9[2]
she m. 1stly Sir John de Eland,
2ndly Sir Geoffrey de Warbilton[10]
Spouse: Sir John de Eland, of Eland Hall, co. Yrks. [9]
Death: aft 13 Jan 1354, murdered[2]
Father: Sir Hugh de Eland (->1324)
Mother: Johanna de Tankersley
Marr: ca 1309[2]
Children: Thomas (-<1354)
John (->1354)
1.1.1.1.2a.1 Thomas de Eland
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Death: bef 6 Dec 1354[2]
heir of Eland
possibly d.v.p. :
Memorandum, undated:
' Memorandum that John Eland', knight, gave Carlynghaw, Barsland'
and Both-winlay to John Eland' his son in fee simple, and the latter
gave the tenements to the aforesaid Sir John and Alma his wife and in
tail male, with reversion on failure to himself and his heirs.
Afterwards Sir Geoffrey de Warbilton' and the aforesaid Alma,
being then his wife, gave the tenements by a fine to Sir John Savyle
and Isabella his wife in fee simple. Then the aforesaid Sir John and
Isabella in the same fine gave Carlynghawe to Geoffrey and Alma and
the heirs male of Alma with remainder by the service of one rose, and
after the death of Alma to be held of the capital lords of the fee
(Carlinghow, Yk Barkisland, Yk ?Bottomley, Yk) ' - A2A,
Nottinghamshire Archives: Savile of Rufford: Deeds and Estate
Papers [DD/SR/13 - DD/SR/205], DD/SR/28/1/9[2]
d. before 6 Dec 1354 : son-in-law John Savile then 'lord of Eland', as
witness to quitclaim by Thomas, son of Robert de Whitewode and
Margaret his late wife, to Adam son of Thomas, uncle of the said
Thomas de Whitewode, of his right in lands, tenements, etc., called
Croshouse, of Clifton. - A2A, West Yorkshire Archive Service,
Calderdale: Papers of the Armytage family of Kirklees Hall
[KM/1 - KM/857], Deeds relating to CLIFTON: KM/63[2]
Spouse: Jane
Children: Isabel (->1418)
1.1.1.1.2a.1.1 Isabel Eland
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Death: aft 1418[2]
heiress of Eland
Subsidy Rolls (Poll Tax) for the year 1379, for Elland (Morley
wapentake, Halifax parish):
' Johannes Seyuyll', Chiualer, & uxor........ xx s. '[14]
Memorandum, undated:
' Memorandum that John Eland', knight, gave Carlynghaw, Barsland'
and Both-winlay to John Eland' his son in fee simple, and the latter
gave the tenements to the aforesaid Sir John and Alma his wife and in
tail male, with reversion on failure to himself and his heirs.
Afterwards Sir Geoffrey de Warbilton' and the aforesaid Alma, being
then his wife, gave the tenements by a fine to Sir John Savyle and
Isabella his wife in fee simple. Then the aforesaid Sir John and
Isabella in the same fine gave Carlynghawe to Geoffrey and Alma and
the heirs male of Alma with remainder by the service of one rose,
and after the death of Alma to be held of the capital lords of the
fee (Carlinghow, Yk Barkisland, Yk ?Bottomley, Yk) ' - A2A,
Nottinghamshire Archives: Savile of Rufford: Deeds and Estate Papers
[DD/SR/13 - DD/SR/205], DD/SR/28/1/9[2]
Grant dated 6 Hen V [1418-19]:
' Grant by Isabel, widow of John Sayvyll' knight, as possession of
the manor of Newested' for life, of the manor to Thomas Sayvill' son
of Henry Sayvill', the reversioner after her death (Newstead, ?Yk) '
A2A, Nottinghamshire Archives: Savile of Rufford: Deeds and Estate
Papers [DD/SR/13 - DD/SR/205], DD/SR/28/1/38[2]
Spouse: Sir John Savile, of Golcar, co. Yorks.
Genealogics I00444061 [7]
Death: bef 23 Sep 1399[10]
Birth: bef 1326[10]
Father: Sir John Savile (-<1354)
Mother: Jane de Bosco
Marr: bef 6 Dec 1354[2]
Children: John (-1405)
Henry (-<1413)
1.1.1.1.2a.1.1.1 John Savile
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Death: 10 Aug 1405
of Eland, co. Yorks.
cf. YAS XCI:123-125[10]
Spouse: Isabel Radcliffe
Children: Isabel
1.1.1.1.2a.1.1.2 Henry Savile
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Death: bef 1413[2]
Occ: lord of Thornhill (de jure uxoris)
lord of Thornhill (de jure uxoris)
Genealogics I00387118[7]
' Henry of Eland ', 2nd son[15]
appointment of attorneys dated 14 Rich II [1390-91]:
' Appointment by Henry Sayvill' de Thornhill' and Elizabeth his
wife of Thomas Burdon' de Halton' and Richard de Colby as their
attorneys for livery of seisin in their manor of Colby and all their
lands etc in Halton', Burton', Flekysburgh, Haytheby, Theleby,
Walcoytes, Frisby and elsewhere in the county of Lincoln to William
de Thornhill' son of Simon de Thornhill (Halton, Li Coleby, Li
Flixborough, Li Haytheby, Li Thealby, Li Walcot, Li Firsby, Li)' -
A2A, Nottinghamshire Archives: Savile of Rufford: Deeds and Estate
Papers [DD/SR/13 - DD/SR/205], DD/SR/28/3/4 [2]
' Henry Sayvill, of Thornhill ', witness to grant dated 1 Jan 1405:
' Grant by Robert Machun of Pledwikk, to John Shephird, of Brestwisill,
of a messuage and land called Cowperroyde in Brestwisill.
Witnesses, Henry Sayvill, of Thornhill, John Amyas, Thomas
Methelay, Robert Whittlay, John de Clayton.' - A2A, West Yorkshire
Archive Service, Calderdale: Papers of the Armytage family of
Kirklees Hall [KM/1 - KM/857], Deeds relating to BRIESTFIELD:
KM/90[2]
he d. 1412 [2] [15]
cf. YAS XCI:123-125[10]
Spouse: Elizabeth Thornhill
Death: aft 1414[2]
Father: Simon de Thornhill, of Thornhill, co. Yorks.
Mother: Elizabeth
Children: Thomas Savile, of Thornhill(-<1450)
Henry Savile, of Copley(->1437)
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* John P. Ravilious