passengers of the ship Assurance July 1635

[David C. Blackwell]

>Pamela Wojahn wrote:
>(snipped)
>> Henry George and son John George came to America in boat "Assurance" in
>> July 1635 and brought 221 passengers of distinguished families with
>> them. They may have even paid for their passage. The George family is
>> armigerous.
>(snipped)
>Who were those 221 passengers on the "Assurance?"
>W. David Samuelsen ds...@aros.net

This looks like a question for the Great Migration Project.

Robert Charles Anderson has just published the first three volumes
which are being sold by NEHGS
Their online web sales catalog
http://www.nehgs.org/saletext.htm
is from last winter so it does not have the books listed yet.
So if anyone is interested you can email them: ne...@nehgs.org
It may have been described in their NEXUS news publication.

Incidently, the ship Assurance and the family George does not show up
in _The Planters of The Commonwealth_ by Charles Edward Banks pub. 1930.
So where is the Assurance arriving (I assumed Boston)
and what is your source?

Best Regards,

David C. Blackwell dblac...@S1.DRC.COM
72 Center St., Groveland, Mass. 01834 (508)475-9090x1678(work)
http://oasys.drc.com/~blackwell/blqltoc.htm Blackwell Genealogy Notebook.

[Margaret J. Olson]

David C. Blackwell (dblac...@S1.DRC.COM) wrote:

: >Pamela Wojahn wrote:
: >(snipped)
: >> Henry George and son John George came to America in boat "Assurance" in
: >> July 1635 and brought 221 passengers of distinguished families with

[snip]
: This looks like a question for the Great Migration Project.

Yes - it is probably a question for them, but it will not be found in
"The Great Migration Begins, 1620-1633". The first set of books has been
published, and I assume the next set (1634-1640?) is underway, but it will
probably be some time before we can buy it.

Margaret Olson

[Norlaine Thomas]

Does someone have such passenger lists? I am very interested in learning
if there were any Hungerfords among the passengers. In particular, Thomas
Hungerford and Ann(e) Hungerford (or possibly Ann(e) Leigh). Thomas
Hungerford is reputed to have appeared in Connecticut around 1635/6. Any
information on this would be greatly appreciated.

Norlaine Thomas
--
Norlaine Thomas
nth...@escape.ca
*****************
http://www.escape.ca/~nthomas Home Page
http://www.escape.ca/~nthomas/tree htm Genealogy Page
http://www.escape.ca/~nthomas/hall.htm Hungerford Great Hall

[W. David Samuelsen]

(snipped)

> > : >Pamela Wojahn wrote:
> > : >(snipped)
> > : >> Henry George and son John George came to America in boat "Assurance" in
> > : >> July 1635 and brought 221 passengers of distinguished families with
> > [snip]
> > : This looks like a question for the Great Migration Project.
> >
> > Yes - it is probably a question for them, but it will not be found in
> > "The Great Migration Begins, 1620-1633". The first set of books has been
> > published, and I assume the next set (1634-1640?) is underway, but it will
> > probably be some time before we can buy it.

(snipped)

> Does someone have such passenger lists? I am very interested in learning
> if there were any Hungerfords among the passengers. In particular, Thomas
> Hungerford and Ann(e) Hungerford (or possibly Ann(e) Leigh). Thomas
> Hungerford is reputed to have appeared in Connecticut around 1635/6. Any
> information on this would be greatly appreciated.

(snipped)

As you can see this has been going round and round and I am still for
somebody to come through with the names of those 221 persons who came on
this ship. We are still waiting.

W. David Samuelsen
ds...@aros.net

[R. Leutner]

You may have to wait for quite a while, since as far as I know not many
sailings during the Great Migration actually left "passenger lists" per
se--it's at least my impression that there are only partial records most
of the time, and a lot of guesswork reconstruction, compounded by the
fact that some passengers were not "officially" on board because they
did not have permission to emigrate.

Bob Leutner
Iowa City IA

On Sun, 20 Oct 1996, W. David Samuelsen
wrote:

[Janis De Lay]

>Does someone have such passenger lists? I am very interested in learning
>if there were any Hungerfords among the passengers. In particular, Thomas
>Hungerford and Ann(e) Hungerford (or possibly Ann(e) Leigh). Thomas
>Hungerford is reputed to have appeared in Connecticut around 1635/6. Any
>information on this would be greatly appreciated.
>

Hi Norlaine
I have an Alice-Eleanor HUNGERFORD ca. 1425 of Swanborne, Hamshire, ENG m.
John WHITE their son Robert was Mayor Of Calais. Any conncection?

Janis De Lay (katl...@aol.com) Sacramento, CA
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Angaretis,Aston,Austin,Balls,Conger,Connoy,Cornet,Cribbet,Delp,Dewey,Fletch
er,Fritz,Fuller,Gaganas,Gariag,Gaylord,Hackett,Harrison,Hendee,Hinton,Hyde,
Koredas,Lancaster,LaSeur,Leoleos,Murray,O'Grady,Orton,Palmer,Peacock,Pool(e
),Rhudy,Richardson,Roberts,Sprecher,Stone,Sutton,Wade,Wicks,Yeager and
others.

[Norlaine Thomas]

Janis De Lay wrote:

> Hi Norlaine
> I have an Alice-Eleanor HUNGERFORD ca. 1425 of Swanborne, Hamshire, ENG m.
> John WHITE their son Robert was Mayor Of Calais. Any conncection?
>
> Janis De Lay (katl...@aol.com) Sacramento, CA
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> Angaretis,Aston,Austin,Balls,Conger,Connoy,Cornet,Cribbet,Delp,Dewey,Fletch
> er,Fritz,Fuller,Gaganas,Gariag,Gaylord,Hackett,Harrison,Hendee,Hinton,Hyde,
> Koredas,Lancaster,LaSeur,Leoleos,Murray,O'Grady,Orton,Palmer,Peacock,Pool(e
> ),Rhudy,Richardson,Roberts,Sprecher,Stone,Sutton,Wade,Wicks,Yeager and
> others.

Hi! Sorry it took me so long to get back to you. Yes, there may well be a
connection. I have a Thomas Hungerford (d. 1398) who was married to
Eleanor Strug (d. before 1376?). They had 4 children : Thomas, Peter,
John and Alice. Your Alice may be this daughter of Thomas, or possibly
the daughter of one of her brothers. You can find this genealogy at:

http://www.escape.ca/~nthomas/hunger2.htm

Thomas (the father) is number 3 in the listing.

Please write back and let me know if this connection seems valid to you.
I would be very interested in learning what became of some of these early
Hungerfords. We have no records beyond birth or baptism for many of them.

Norlaine

[Janis De Lay]

>Please write back and let me know if this connection seems valid to you.
>I would be very interested in learning what became of some of these early
>Hungerfords. We have no records beyond birth or baptism for many of them.
>

Norlaine: It seems possible, I've copies the info to study it more. I
don't have anything on Alice. My only info is on her husband's line
WHITE. According to it John was b. abt 1420 Swanborne, Hampshire, ENG
d.1470. Their son Robert was mayor of Calais b. abt. 1461 d. abt. 1480,
also Swanborne he m. Margaret Gaynsford. It's so hard to tell. I have
the WHITE decendants down to RoseAnne 1600-1647 where if "wife out" in
CT. Let me know if you would like any info I have. Wish I had more.
Do you know of any publications regarding the Hungerford line? I'd
love to find out more.

Thanks for the web site, really loved it! Janis

[Vickie (Elam) White]

Bob Leutner wrote --

<<You may have to wait for quite a while, since as far as I know not many
sailings during the Great Migration actually left "passenger lists" per
se--it's at least my impression that there are only partial records most
of the time, and a lot of guesswork reconstruction, compounded by the
fact that some passengers were not "officially" on board because they
did not have permission to emigrate.>>

May I add that many of those who weren't "officially" on board used aliases,
which can add to the problem. But Freeman Lists, church records and land
grants can help a lot with reconstructing passenger lists.

Vickie (Elam) White
10265...@compuserve.com

[Billye D. Jackson]

Janis De Lay <katl...@AOL.COM> wrote in article
<1996102412...@netcomsv.netcom.com>...
> <snip> >
> --WHITE decendants down to RoseAnne 1600-1647 where if "wife out" in

> CT. Let me know if you would like any info I have.

> Janis, I have a John White, brother to (some say Rose/Anna) Anna White
who married my John Porter, Sr. at Messing, Essex, Eng, on 18 Oct 1620. I
do have a few records that give another supposed sister to Anna. She's
supposed to be d/o Robert White and Bridget Allgar, gd/o Robert White and
Alice. I believe it's the same line. Anna is on one of my patriotic group
ancestresses, and approved, up to her. She did d in Windsor, Hartford, CT,
on Jul 1647. She was bap 13 Jul 1600 @ prob Messing, Essex, Eng, though
that is not proven location. May I share in your White information?
I don't have a Hungerford that I'm aware of. My book, Planters of the
Commonwealth (early ship passenger lists), is loaned out at the moment, to
be returned shortly. Another regular 'lurker', Billye D. Jackson
<cof...@viptx.net>

[gyps...@gmail.com]

My mother said her family arrived here on the ship Assurance in 1634 in What would become Virginia.

[groban...@icloud.com]

I just learned some family history on my grandfather's father's side and found that Richard Kirby was one of the first Kirby's to said on the Assurance from England in 1635. They landed in Boston and Richard lived in Lynn, MA till he moved to Sandwich, MA then to Dartmouth, MA which later became Westport, MA. Not sure of the years when he moved but that's some information I'm going to try to find out. Pretty cool stuff.

[Wibs]

I see the Great Migration Directory, Immigrants to New England, now covers 1620-1640. It is available in hardcover for $64.95 or there is an ebook at $54.99

https://shop.americanancestors.org/collections/top-sellers/products/the-great-migration-directory?pass-through=true

Does it cover Virginia?

Wibs

[P J Evans]

No, it's just New England (subtitle: Immigrants to New England, 1620-1640). It has indexes for European and American locations as well as ship names.

[taf]

On Thursday, February 7, 2019 at 10:00:29 AM UTC-8, Wibs wrote:

No, just Massachusetts (incl. what is now Maine), New Hampshire and Connecticut. It includes some Long Islanders who came via the northeastern colonies, and likewise only includes Virginians who also appear in the north.

taf

[taf]

Oops, I left out Rhode Island.

While the term New England was used in the 17th century for all of the Anglo-American colonies, including Virginia, in this case it is used in the modern sense, immigrants to the region of the future USA northeast of New York: the colonies of New Hampshire, Massachusetts Bay, Plymouth, Rhode Island and Providence, Connecticut, Saybrook, New Haven.

taf

[jimr...@yahoo.com]

From the little I know of the voyage of the Assurance from Gravesend, England on or about July 25, 1635, the ship was bound for Virginia and the West Indies. By Virginia I believe it is meant Jamestown. Regarding this voyage, I am interested in a passenger on the Assurance from London (Gravesend) to Jamestown in July, 1635. His name was Joseph Humfres (listed in a posted passenger list as Humfres, Jo.). I found his name on a posted passenger list and he appears to be a relative. I would like some verification to my stated understanding stated above, I would also like to find information about the ship itself. Any suggestions would be welcome.
Regards,
Jim Robinson jimr...@yahoo.com

[susanl...@gmail.com]

On Thursday, October 17, 1996 at 3:00:00 AM UTC-4, David C. Blackwell wrote:
> >Pamela Wojahn wrote:
> >(snipped)

> >> Henry George and son John George came to America in boat "Assurance" in
> >> July 1635 and brought 221 passengers of distinguished families with

> >> them. They may have even paid for their passage. The George family is
> >> armigerous.
> >(snipped)
> >Who were those 221 passengers on the "Assurance?"
> >W. David Samuelsen ds...@aros.net
>

> This looks like a question for the Great Migration Project.
>

> Robert Charles Anderson has just published the first three volumes
> which are being sold by NEHGS
> Their online web sales catalog
> http://www.nehgs.org/saletext.htm
> is from last winter so it does not have the books listed yet.
> So if anyone is interested you can email them: ne...@nehgs.org
> It may have been described in their NEXUS news publication.
>
> Incidently, the ship Assurance and the family George does not show up
> in _The Planters of The Commonwealth_ by Charles Edward Banks pub. 1930.
> So where is the Assurance arriving (I assumed Boston)
> and what is your source?
>
> Best Regards,
>
> David C. Blackwell dblac...@S1.DRC.COM
> 72 Center St., Groveland, Mass. 01834 (508)475-9090x1678(work)
> http://oasys.drc.com/~blackwell/blqltoc.htm Blackwell Genealogy Notebook.

My ancestor William Ruffin III was a passenger on the July 1635 sailing of Assurance, arriving into Virginia. Source: researched family genealogy.
Contact: susanl...@gmail.com.

[Bronwen Edwards]

On Tuesday, May 19, 2020 at 11:04:39 AM UTC-7, susanl...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, October 17, 1996 at 3:00:00 AM UTC-4, David C. Blackwell wrote:
> > >Pamela Wojahn wrote:
> > >(snipped)
> > >> Henry George and son John George came to America in boat "Assurance" in
> > >> July 1635 and brought 221 passengers of distinguished families with
> > >> them. They may have even paid for their passage. The George family is
> > >> armigerous.
> > >(snipped)
> > >Who were those 221 passengers on the "Assurance?"
> > >W. David Samuelsen ds...@aros.net
> >

> >

> > Incidently, the ship Assurance and the family George does not show up
> > in _The Planters of The Commonwealth_ by Charles Edward Banks pub. 1930.
> > So where is the Assurance arriving (I assumed Boston)
> > and what is your source?
> >
> > Best Regards,
> >
> > David C. Blackwell dblac...@S1.DRC.COM
> > 72 Center St., Groveland, Mass. 01834 (508)475-9090x1678(work)
> > http://oasys.drc.com/~blackwell/blqltoc.htm Blackwell Genealogy Notebook.
>
> My ancestor William Ruffin III was a passenger on the July 1635 sailing of Assurance, arriving into Virginia. Source: researched family genealogy.
> Contact: susanl...@gmail.com.

I also have an ancestor, Richard Glover, who sailed to Virginia in 1635 on the Assurance. He presumably built up his family in Virginia but continued sailing. He died at sea near Sulawesi in 1684. Information on the Assurance and several pages of passengers can be found on anc.com, apparently a compilation they did, called "Passengers to America".