Thomas Cokesey alis Greville and his ancestors

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Hi All

I have included a link to the Internet Archives where I put an article on the ancestors of Sir Thomas Cokesey who died around 1498.

He died without any direct descendants and his estates went to his many collateral heirs. His estates were vast and they included the "de Brewes" estates, the "Sancto Petro" estates in Cheshire, the "Greville" estates, the "Cokesey" estates [Russell and Wynter parcels].

The article includes a discussion of the pedigrees of the "de Brewes", "Cokesey", "Greville", "Russell", "Wynter", "Horton", "Yonge", "Archer", "Cassey" etc

According to the records of that time Thomas Cokesey and his ultimate heirs had common ancestors going back to 1300s. Thus the article includes the pedigrees of these families going back to these times.

The article also discusses the reliability of the pedigrees outlined in the patent rolls of 1500s.

The link is

https://archive.org/details/theancestryofsirthomascokesey/mode/1up

Regards from
Paul Mackenzie
Down Under

[daveR]

I am not convinced that John Greville was the "son and heir" of Lewis. The suggested solution that John died sp and that William was the 2nd son seems to be incorrect as John seems to have been the founder of the Lemington Grevilles, father of Richard and grandfather of Sir William d1513.

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Dear Paul ~

I read through your Cokesey article. I have one correction/addition for you.

In Chart C in your article, you state that Joyce Cokesey (born 1397) married (1) John Greville; (2) Leonard Stapliton; and (3) Walter Beauchamp.

In Chart D, you state Joyce Cokesey (born 1397) married (1) Beauchamp; (2) John Greville; (3) Stepliton.

I puzzled over the order of this woman's marriages. After a considerable amount of research, I finally determined that Joyce married (1st) Walter Beauchamp, Knt.; (2ns) John Greville, Esq.; and (3rd) Leonard Stapleton, Esq.

On both of your charts, you state that Joyce Cooksey was born in 1397. She was actually born about 1406, she being aged 40 in 1446, 54 in 1460.

I've copied below my current file account regarding Joyce and her various marriages. I believe the material below is the first identification of Joyce's 1st husband, Walter Beauchamp, as being the same person as Walter Beauchamp, the son and heir of Sir William Beauchamp [died 1420], of Powick, Worcestershire.

Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah

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1. WALTER BEAUCHAMP, Knt., of Brewham, Somerset, son and heir of William Beauchamp, Knt., of Powick and Acton Beauchamp, Worcestershire, Alcester, Warwickshire, and Down Hatherley, Kemerton, and Longford, Gloucestershire, Brewham, Somerset, etc., Chamberlain to Humphrey, Duke of Gloucester, Constable of Gloucester Castle, Sheriff of Worcestershire, 1401–2, Sheriff of Gloucestershire, 1403–4, 1413–14, Knight of the Shire for Worcestershire, 1407, 1413, 1414, and 1416, by Katherine, daughter of Gerard de Usflete, Knt. He married JOYCE COKESEY (or COOKSEY, daughter of Walter Cokesey, Esq., of Great Cooksey (in Upton Warren), Caldwell (in Kidderminster), Great Witley, and Sutton (in Tenbury), Worcestershire, Hunningham, Warwickshire, etc., by Maud, daughter of Thomas Harcourt, Knt. [see HARCOURT 12.ii for her ancestry]. She was born about 1406 (aged 40 in 1446, 54 in 1460). They had no issue. SIR WALTER BEAUCHAMP died before 1427. His widow, Joyce, married (2nd) before 1427 (as his 2nd wife) JOHN GREVILLE (or GREVEL, GREVELL), Esq., of Sezincote, Ebrington, Lasborough (in Westonbirt), and Meon, Gloucestershire, Sheriff of Gloucestershire, 1405, 1415–17, 1426, Escheator of Gloucestershire, 1406–7, 1408–9, 1413–15, 1418–19, Knight of the Shire for Gloucestershire, 1414, 1419, 1421–3, 1425, 1427, Receiver general of the estates of John, Duke of Bedford, by 1419–1426, younger son of William Greville, of Chipping Campden, Gloucestershire, Milcote, Warwickshire, etc., by his 1st wife, Mary. They had two sons, John, Knt., and Maurice. In 1440 he sued John Bonefaunt, of Campden, Gloucestershire, yeoman in the Court of Common Pleas regarding a trespass in his free warren in Ebrington, Gloucestershire. JOHN GREVILLE, Esq. died testate 30 Sept. 1444. In 1444, as “Joyce Beauchampe, formerly wife of John Grevel, of Sesyncote, Esq.,” she and her sons, John and Maurice Grevel, were admitted members of the gild of Stratford-upon-Avon, Warwickshire. Joyce was heiress in 1445 to her brother, Hugh Cokesey, Knt., by which she inherited the manors of Tetbury, Gloucestershire, Bramley and Little Bookham, Surrey, Bidlington (in Bramber), Sussex, Hunningham and Willey, Warwickshire, Great Cooksey (in Upton Warren), Worcestershire, etc. His widow, Joyce, married (3rd) before 11 March 1445/6 (as his 2nd wife) LEONARD STAPLETON, Esq. [see FITZ IVES 12.i], of Grove (in South Brent), Somerset, and, in right of his 2nd wife, of Sezincote, Gloucestershire and Milcote, Warwickshire, son and heir of John Stapleton, Esq., Esq., of Stapleton, Shropshire, Dormington, Herefordshire, etc., Knight of the Shire for Shropshire, 1421, by Margaret, daughter and heiress of John Deviock [see FITZ IVES 12 for his ancestry]. He was born in or before 1400 (minor in 1418, of age in 1421). He was a legatee in the 1413 will of his step-grandfather, Leonard Hakeluyt, Knt. He was a legatee in the 1414 will of his maternal grandmother, Margaret Hakluyt. In the period, 1426–32, he sued Hugh Stapleton, Gent., and Hugh his son in Chancery for killing his horses and cattle at Stapleton, Shropshire, and lying in wait to kill him. He served as one of the feoffees for Edward Benstede, Knt. in 1429. In 1435 he, John Greville, and others were pardoned for acquiring the manor of Braunton Gorges, Devon without license from Theobald Gorges alias Russell. He was appointed one of the executors of the 1444 will of Edward Leighton, of Stretton in the Dale, Shropshire. He was granted an exemption for life from being put on assizes, juries, recognitions, etc. in 1448. LEONARD STAPLETON, Esq., died before 1450. In the period, 1448–56, as “Joice widow of Sir Walter Beauchamp, Knt., and late the wife of Leonard Stepulton, Esq.” she sued William Bastard and two others, feoffees of Leonard Stepulton, Esq., in Chancery regarding the manor of Grove (in South Brent), Somerset and lands in Warminster, Wiltshire. In 1460, as “Joyce Beauchamp,” she sued Edmund Busshell, Gent., of Marston Sicca, Gloucestershire and another in the Court of Common Pleas regarding a trespass at Pebworth, Gloucestershire. Lady Joyce Beauchamp presented to the church of Witley, Worcestershire in 1461. In 1463, as” Joyce Beauchampe, widow,” she sued John Fadyr, Gent., of Buckenham Castle, Norfolk, in the Court of Common Pleas regarding the theft of charters, writings, and muniments. In 1465, as “Lady Joyce Beauchamp, sister and heiress of Hugh Cokesey, knight,” she demised the site of a watermill at Horsley, Cheshire, together with a watercourse called Horseleywell, for a term of 40 years to William Underwoode, of Peckforton, Cheshire, and his son, John. In 1465 Joyce Beauchamp, widow, sued John Colyn, of Willey, Warwickshire, husbandman regarding a trespass at Willey, Warwickshire. The same year, as “Joyce widow of Walter Beauchamp,” she sued Robert Kyng, of Cranley, Surrey, carpenter, and five others regarding a trespass at Cranley, Surrey. She presented to the chapel of St. Mary, Kidderminster, Worcestershire in 1468 and 1469, as “Lady Joyce Beauchamp, sistser and heir of Hugh Cokesey, Knt.,” and again in 1473 as “Joyce Beauchamp, widow.” In 1469 she founded the chantry of St. Catherine in Kidderminster, Worcestershire. In 1470 she sued William Russhale, of Tymber Hougle, Worcestershire, husbandman in the Court of Common Pleas regarding a trespass [vi et armis] at Tymber Hougle, Worcestershire. Joyce died 19 July 1473, and was buried in Kidderminster, Worcestershire.

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On Friday, 10 April 2020 08:18:58 UTC+10, daveR wrote:
> I am not convinced that John Greville was the "son and heir" of Lewis. The suggested solution that John died sp and that William was the 2nd son seems to be incorrect as John seems to have been the founder of the Lemington Grevilles, father of Richard and grandfather of Sir William d1513.

The publication Warwick castle and its earls, from Saxon times to the present day by Warwick, Frances Evelyn Maynard Greville, Countess of, 1861-1933"
also mentions this John Greville as the son and heir of Lewis of Drayton. A photograph of the tomb is on page 606 of that publication.
See https://archive.org/details/warwickcastleits02warwuoft/page/607/mode/1up.

From Mackenzie's the publication it seems the Grevilles of Drayton inherited the "greville" parcel of the Thomas Cokesey estate, which were very extensive. How the Grevilles of Lemington fit into the Grevilles family I am not sure, and is an interesting question. At the very least they must have been a distant kin to the Grevilles of Drayton otherwise they would have had a valid claim on the "greville" parcel of the Cokesey estates.

It would seem if John Greville of Lemington died having heirs then they would have inherited the manors of Drayton and the "greville" parcel of the Cokesey estates.

JB