Wolverton of Padbury Bucks.

[CHARLOTTE SMITH]

I have found a court case Hilary Term 15 John 1214
Bucks, concerning William Echyngham and wife Emma.
They owned a well know mill in the area. Does anyone
know if the Wolverton family was active in this area.
The Echyngham family had land in Padbury that was
passed down in early generations. I wonder if Emma
could be a Wolverton. C. Smith

[John Townsend]

According to Sheahan, in the reign of Stephen, Manfeliae, Baron of
Wolverton, became the founder of Bradwell Priory (in the parish of
Wolverton), which he endowed with lands at Padbury, and the advowson of the
church. In 1334 the manor of Padbury passed by the marriage of Joan,
daughter of John de Wolverton, to Hugh Wake. (Manfeliae had been a
descendant of Magno Brito, to whom the manor belonged at the time of
Domesday.)

Hope this helps!

John Townsend
http://www.johntownsend.demon.co.uk

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[Rosie Bevan]

Dear Charlotte

If the mill is in Padbury it was probably part of the marriage portion of
Ala, daughter of Hamo (d. 1185) son of Meinfelin and Amabel, daughter of
William Mauduit II, the ancestors of the Wolverton family.

Ala's brother, Hamo, was aged 20 when his father died and in the king's
wardship. He is described in the Rotuli Dominabus (p.39) as being of the
progeny of the earl of Warenne through his father and grandson of William
Mauduit through his mother.

Ala was given in marriage to William de Echingham with a moiety of the manor
of Padbury and she later gave her moiety in the advowson of the church to
Bradwell priory.
This is discussed in G.R.Elvey (ed.). "Luffield Priory Charters : part II".
(Welwyn Garden City: The Buckinghamshire and Northamptonshire Record
Societies, 1975). p.xlii.

The descent of the Wolvertons is found in VCH Northants v.5 p.422 in the
discussion on Wick Hamon.

Whether Emma and Ala are the same I don't know, but one often finds
discrepancies in the curia regis rolls.

Cheers

Rosie

[Gordon Kirkemo]

Hi Rosie,

I was interested in your reference to William de Echingham. Was he the
father of the Simon (d. c1253) that married Alice Fitzreinfred (from a
posting by Doug Smith 2/8/03)?

Regards,
Gordon

Dear Charlotte

Cheers

Rosie

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[Rosie Bevan]

Dear Gordon

From William Echingham's inquisition [CIPM I no.287], it was William who
died in 1253, not Simon. Simon, aged 35, was his heir to the Hastings fee in
Sussex. William's widow was Margery Montague [HKF 1 200]. On chronological
grounds Simon would be son or grandson of William and Ala. The Echinghams
were certainly her descendants as the land in Padbury remained in the family
with James de Echingham holding half a fee in Padbury in 1346 with John son
of John de Wolverton holding the overlordship [Feudal Aids v.1 p.125].

Judging by DD 508 the descent goes

1.Drogo of Pevensel d. bef 1130
2. Simon fitz Drogo (de Hechingham) d. by 1165
3. William de Hechingham fl 1166 d. by 1211
4. Simon de Echingham d bef.1242
5.William de Echingham d.s.p. 1253
5 Simon de Echingham

If this is the correct descent, I would think Ala is wife of William d. by
1211. If so the court case mentioned by Charlotte might involve a younger
son. I wonder if Charlotte would mind providing its text.

[Rosie Bevan]

Dear Gordon

I omitted to mention that Simon, heir to William Echingham d. 1253 was his
brother, but this should be evident from the descent I gave.