Re: More on Palmer line

[cgo...@gmail.com]

On Tuesday, June 18, 1996 at 12:00:00 AM UTC-7, C.A.Carpenter wrote:
> I just thought I would post the Palmer line in question so you would know
> what exactly what Palmer line I'm talking about.
>
> Chuck
>
> ___________
>
> Descendants of PALMER
>
>
> 1 PALMER b: 1339 in England
> +Isabel STOPHAM b: 1343 in England
>
> 2 Robert PALMER b: Abt 1365 in Angmering, S, England
>
> 3 John PALMER b: Abt 1397 in Angmering, S, England
> +Julian b: Abt 1400 in Angmering, S, England
>
> 4 John PALMER b: Abt 1423 in Angmering, S, England
> +Isabel BILTON b: Abt 1433
>
> 5 Robert PALMER b: Abt 1480 in Parham, S, England d: April
> 24, 1582
> +Bridget Beatrix WESSE b: Abt 1494 in Parham, S, England m: Abt
> 1505
> Kent, England
>
> 6 Thomas PALMER b: Abt 1508 in Parham, S, England d: April
> 24, 1585
> Sussex, England
> +Catherine STRADLING b: 1512 in St Donats, S, England m: Bef
> 1545
> England d: April 24, 1585
>
> 7 John PALMER b: July 14, 1544 in England
> +Elizabeth Verney b: Abt 1588 in Fairfield, S, England m: Abt
> 1577
> England
>
> 8 Walter PALMER b: 1585-1598 in England d: November 10,
> 1661
> +Elizabeth Ann b: Abt 1589 in England m: 1606-1608 England
> d:
> 1628-1629 Charlestown, MA
>
> 9 Jonah or Jonas PALMER b: Bef 1628 in London, England
> d: June 22, 1709
> Rehoboth, Bristol, Mass
> +Elizabeth Grissell GRISWOLD b: Abt 1645 m: May 03, 1659
> Rehoboth,
> Bristol, MA
>
> 10 Hannah PALMER b: 1657 in Rehoboth, Bristol, MA
> +[1] John FRENCH b: 1655 in Ipswich, Essex, MA m: November 27,
> 1676
> Rehoboth, Bristol, MA d: February 25, 1724/25 Rehoboth, Bristol, MA
>
> 10 Mary PALMER b: Abt 1658 in Rehoboth, Bristol, MA
> +[1] John FRENCH b: 1655 in Ipswich, Essex, MA m:
> November 27, 1678
> d: February 25, 1724/25 Rehoboth, Bristol, MA
>
> 10 Jonah PALMER b: Abt 1659 in Rehoboth, Bristol, MA
> +Abigail CARPENTER b: March 15, 1658/59 in Rehoboth,
> Bristol, MA m:
> November 19, 1692
>
> 10 Martha PALMER b: Abt 1665
> +Joseph TITUS b: March 17, 1664/65 in Rehoboth, Bristol, MA
> m:
> January 19, 1687/88
>
> 10 Grace PALMER b: October 02, 1668 in Rehoboth, Bristol, MA
> +James Carpenter b: April 12, 1668 in Rehoboth, Bristol,
> MA src:
> Rehoboth Vital Records 1652-1896 birth page 571
>
> m: April 15, 1695 Rehoboth, Bristol, MA src: Rehoboth Vital Records
> 1652-1896 Page 78
> d: April 27, 1738 Rehoboth, Bristol, MA src: Rehoboth Vital Records
> 1652-1896 death page 810
>
>
>
> *2nd Wife of Jonah or Jonas PALMER:
> +Abigail CARPENTER b: April 09, 1643 in Weymouth, Norfolk,
> MA m:
> November 09, 1692 Rehoboth, Bristol, Mass d: March 05, 1709/10 Rehoboth,
> Bristol, MA

This line is not correct, in that Walter was not a son of Palmer/Verney. Be advised that Walter was NOT the son of Palmer/Verney.

Here is the correct list of the children of William (John) Palmer and Elizabeth Verney, of Parham, Sussex, England, sourced from "Berry's Sussex Genealogies" and many other sources.
They had only 4 children:
1) Sir Thomas born 1574 died circa 1605
2) Katherine born 1579
3) William born 1583 died 1585
4) Sarah born 1586/7

[Howard Loomis]

I've been trying to establish the parents of William Palmer alleged by some to be the son of William Palmer and Elizabeth Verney, and came across this old thread. I have a few questions. As this is one of my lines, I want to get it right.

The consensus here is that this is a false connection to William Palmer and Elizabeth Verney. My first question is whether this consensus is based on documentation proving it false or lack of documentation proving it true? If it is the first, the relationship has been proved false. If it is the second, it remains an unsupported possibility.

As I reviewed the information here and on other sites, I note that it is shown that William and Elizabeth had a son, William, who died between the age of 2 and 4 depending on the birth date used. It has been suggested that this is proof that the William Palmer in question could not have been their son. However, it was not uncommon to reuse a name with another child when an older child died at a young age. This William Palmer's birth date could be consistent with such a case. Do we have documentation proving this false, or do we lack any evidence to support the proposition?

Finally, have we learned anything more about this William Palmer? Do we have documentation of who his parents were that settles this question definitively?

Thanks,
Howard