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Loren Varga

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May 12, 2004, 9:38:45 PM5/12/04
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According to the "Encyclopedia of Islam",pp.590-1 comes the
following."In popular language,Ta,ziyah refers to a copy of
al-Husain's tomb...The plays in Iraq and elsewhere include street
processions such as a cavalcade with al-Husain's house,the marriage
procession of al-Hasan's son,al-Qasim,and al-Husain's daughter,Fatimah
by his Persian wife Shahrabaanoo(daughter of Yezdegird III)..." From
this it would seem that it was Qasim who married the daughter of the
persian princess and not his brother Hasan ancestor of the Idrissids.
Comments? Respectfully Loren Varga

Paul K Davis

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May 13, 2004, 12:37:29 AM5/13/04
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Thanks very much.
This would indeed make the Idrissids descendants of the Sasanians.
Idris I was son of Abdullah/Abdallah al-Kamal/al-Khamil/el-Kamil.
Abdullah was in turn son of al-Hasan al-Muthanna by his wife, Fatima
Sugra/Sughra, according to an historical type account I've found at a web
site (not a genealogical database). Your message indicates that Fatima
Sugra, always stated to have been a daughter of al-Husain, was by his wife,
the Persian princess.
Now, if the Maia to Idrissid connection is correct (I'll carefully read
Chico's book when it's published), those of us descended from Sanchia de
Ayala can trace back to the Sasanians and, apparently through them, to a
Kushan emperor of India and to a Jewish exilarch.
I'm currently reading what I can on early Islamic and Indian history to
see what further support I can find for these critical connections.

-- PKD [Paul K Davis, pkd...@earthlink.net]


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----- Original Message -----
From: "Loren Varga" <loren...@merck.com>
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Sent: Wednesday, 12 May, 2004 20:38
Subject: Persian wife of al-husain

There is a little more at http://playandlearn.org/Genealogy/304C.pdf, and at
http://web.genealogie.free.fr/Les_dynasties/Les_dynasties_musulmanes/Dynasti
e_des_Alides.htm,

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