Tugor, Khan of the Cumans, may possibly be the same person as Togortak, one of
the Cuman chiefs. Anna Comnena refers to him in "The Alexiad": (Penguin
Transl,), p. 253: "In the Cuman army there were numerous chiefs, but the
outstanding leaders were Togortak, Maniak and some others noted for their
warlike qualities." p. 302: " ... the Cumans. Marianus Mavrocatacalon caught
sight of Togortak, their commander-in-chief, and armed with a long spear
charged against him at full gallop. He would almost undoubtedly have killed
him, had not his Cuman bodyguard rescued him in time ..."
This Cuman war took place around 1094. The Cumans were also called Polovetsans,
which may account for the confusion with Polowsk. They were a Turk nomad tribe
allied to the Kiev Russians, so it would make excellent political sense for
Svjatopolk to marry a daughter of one of their most powerful khans.
As an interesting sideline, the opera "Prince Igor" by Borodin, with the
well-known "Polovetsan Dances", is written over a libretto (of doubtful
historicity) about the conflicts between Russians and Polovetsans/Cumans at
those times. History says nothing about Togortak/Tugor Khan's abilities as
dancer ... :-)
Kåre A. Lie -------------------------------------------------------- Things
are not as they are seen, nor are they otherwise.
______Does anyone have any information on what became of the Cumans, I seem to
recall reading something that said they ended up in Hungary and that there is
still an ethnic group in existance who claim descent from them.?
Does anyone know of other mailing lists which specialise in medieval European
history. ? _______________________
Kuthen's daughter, Elisabeth, in 1254 married Stephen V who, in 1270,
became King of Hungary. They had (at least) six children and their
descendants are to be found all over the world. No doubt the 40,000
Cuman warriors and their families have left descendants and, especially
in the early years, would have stuck together.
Hope this is some kind of an answer,
Best wishes
Leo van de Pas
In a message dated 5/14/98 7:50:11 AM, you wrote:
<<Kuthen's daughter, Elisabeth, in 1254 married Stephen V who, in 1270,
became King of Hungary. They had (at least) six children and their
descendants are to be found all over the world>>
Is it likely that any of these married into Western Eurpopean royal lines?
This is an interesting connection.
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In addition to about 10 U.S. Presidents:
Selected Direct Descendants of Kuthen of the Kumans
1 Khan Kuthen of the Kumans
2 Elizabeth of Bosnia - Aft. 1290 ref #: (Ä103-30)
3 Maria of Hungary Abt. 1257 - 1323 ref #: Ä103-31
4 Marguerite d'Anjou de Siciles - 1299 ref #: Ä103-32
5 King Philippe VI de France 1293 - 1350
6 King Jean II de France 1319 - 1364
7 King Charles V de France - 1380
8 King Charles VI de France - 1422
9 King Charles VII de France 1403 - 1461
10 [16] Madelaine de France 1443 - Aft. 1485
11 [30] Queen Catalina de Foix 1470 - 1517
12 Isabelle d'Albret 1511 - 1555
13 Rene II de Rohan 1550 - 1586
14 Catherine de Rohan-Frontenay 1578 - 1607
15 Magdalene Catherine von Zweibrucken 1607 - 1647/48
16 Anna Magdalena von Birkenfeld-Bischweiler 1639/40 - 1693
17 Johanne Magdalene von Hanau-Lichtenberg 1660 - 1715
18 Graf Christian Karl Reinhard von Leiningen-(et_al) 1695 - 1766
19 Grafin Karoline Felizitas zu Leiningen-(et_al) 1734 - 1810
20 Karoline Polyxene von Nassau-Usingen 1762 - 1823
21 Auguste von Hessen-Kassel 1797 - 1889
22 [4] Mary Adelaide Wilhelmine Elizabeth 1833 - 1897
23 Victoria Mary Augusta Louisa Olga P. von Teck 1867 - 1953
24 [2] King George VI of England 1895 - 1952 ref #: AAP:347
25 [31] Queen Elizabeth II of England 1926 - ref #: AAP:347
26 [3] HRH Prince Charles Philip Arthur George Windsor 1948 - ref #:
AAP:347
27 [1] William Arthur Philip Louis Windsor 1982 - ref #: AACPW:22.8
9 Katherine de Valois 1401 - 1436/37 ref #: BxP:540
10 Sir Edmund Tudor 1430 - 1456 ref #: BxP:540
11 [84] King Henry VII of England 1456/57 - 1509 ref #: F16:10iia1
12 [58] Princess Margaret Tudor 1489 - 1541 ref #: W161-22
13 [22] King James V of Scotland 1512 - 1542 ref #: W92-14
14 Queen Mary of Scotland 1542 - 1586/87 ref #: W92-15
15 [10] King James I of England 1566 - 1625 ref #: W92-17
16 Princess Elizabeth Stuart 1596 - ref #: BxP:461
17 Charles Louis von Bayern Abt. 1618 - 1680 ref #: EC1:34
18 Elizabeth-Charlotte von der Pfalz 1652 - 1722 ref #: EC1:34
19 [11] Frederica von Schomberg 1688 - 1751
20 [12] Caroline von Holdernesse - 1778
21 Louisa Kerr - 1830
22 [7] Sir Charles Lennox 1764 - 1819 ref #: BPci:1842
23 [25] Sir Charles Lennox 1791 - 1860 ref #: BPci:1842
24 Cecilia Catherine Lennox - 1910 ref #: BPci:1843
25 Rosalind Cecilia Caroline Bingham 1869 - 1958 ref #: (BPci:4)
26 [8] Cynthia Eleanor Beatrix Hamilton 1897 - 1972
27 [6] Sir Edward John Spencer 1924 - 1992 ref #: (AACPW:22)
28 [129] Diana Frances Spencer 1961 - 1997 ref #: AAP:347
29 [1] William Arthur Philip Louis Windsor 1982 - ref #: AACPW:22.8
17 Sophia von Hanover 1630 - 1714 ref #: EC1:82
18 King George I of England 1660 - 1727 ref #: BxP:461
19 King George II of England 1683 - 1760
20 Frederick Lewes - 1751
21 King George III of England 1738 - 1820
22 Edward, Duke of Kent 1767 - 1820
23 Queen Victoria of England 1819 - 1901
24 King Edward VII of England 1841 - 1910
25 King George V of England 1865 - 1936
26 [2] King George VI of England 1895 - 1952 ref #: AAP:347
24 Alice Maud Mary Saxe-Coburg-Gotha 1843 - 1878
25 Viktoria von Hessen 1863 - 1950
26 Prinzessen Alice von Battenberg 1885 - 1969
27 [5] Prince Philip Glücksberg 1921 - ref #: AAP:347
28 [3] HRH Prince Charles Philip Arthur George Windsor 1948 - ref #:
AAP:347
22 Prince Adolphus Frederick of England 1774 - 1850
23 [4] Mary Adelaide Wilhelmine Elizabeth 1833 - 1897
19 Sophia Dorothea von Hanover 1686/87 - 1757 ref #: EC1:82
20 Augustus William Hohenzollern 1722 - 1758 ref #: EC1:82
21 Frederick William II of Prussia 1744 - 1797 ref #: EC1:83
22 Frederick William III, King of Prussia 1770 - 1840
23 Charlotte Hohenzollern 1798 - 1860
24 Konstantin Romanov 1827 - 1892
25 Olga Konstantinova Romanov 1851 - 1926
26 Andrew Glücksberg 1882 - 1944
27 [5] Prince Philip Glücksberg 1921 - ref #: AAP:347
16 King Charles I of England 1600 - 1648/49 ref #: W17C-17
17 [13] King Charles II of England 1630 - 1684/85 ref #: W17C-18
18 Sir Henry Fitzroy 1663 - 1690 ref #: BPci:942
19 Sir Charles Fitzroy 1683 - 1757 ref #: BPci:942
20 [39] Isabella Fitzroy 1726 - 1782 ref #: (BPci:942)
21 [52] Adm. Sir Hugh Seymour 1759 - 1801
22 [9] Sir Horace Beauchamp Seymour 1791 - 1851 ref #: (see notes)
23 Adelaide Horatia Elizabeth Seymour 1825 - 1877 ref #: (see notes)
24 [32] Sir Charles Robert Spencer 1857 - 1922 ref #: (see notes)
25 Sir Albert Edward John Spencer 1892 - 1975 ref #: (see notes)
26 [6] Sir Edward John Spencer 1924 - 1992 ref #: (AACPW:22)
18 Sir Charles Lennox 1672 - 1723 ref #: BPci:1842
19 [56] Sir Charles Lennox 1701 - 1750 ref #: BPci:1842
20 Lt Gen Sir George Henry Lennox - 1805 ref #: BxP:98
21 [7] Sir Charles Lennox 1764 - 1819 ref #: BPci:1842
19 [57] Countess Anne Lennox 1703 - 1789
20 Elizabeth Keppel 1739 - 1768
21 [36] Sir John Russell 1766 - 1839 ref #: BPci:183
22 [26] Louisa Jane Russell - 1905
23 [21] Sir James Hamilton 1838 - 1913 ref #: BPci:4
24 Sir James Albert Edward Hamilton 1869 - 1953 ref #: BPci:4
25 [8] Cynthia Eleanor Beatrix Hamilton 1897 - 1972
17 [14] King James II of England 1633 - 1701
18 Henrietta FitzJames 1667 - 1730 ref #: (BPci:2228)
19 [123] Sir James Waldegrave - 1741 ref #: BPci:2228
20 Sir James Waldegrave 1714/15 - 1763 ref #: BPci:2228
21 Anna Horatia Waldegrave 1759 - 1801 ref #: (BPci:2228)
22 [9] Sir Horace Beauchamp Seymour 1791 - 1851 ref #: (see notes)
13 Margaret Douglas 1515 - 1578 ref #: BxP:175
14 [24] Sir Henry Stewart 1545 - 1566/67 ref #: BxP:512
15 [10] King James I of England 1566 - 1625 ref #: W92-17
8 Louis de Orleans - 1407
9 Jean de Valois 1404 - Abt. 1468
10 [29] Comte Charles de Valois - 1496
11 Margaret de Angoulême
12 Queen Jeanne d'Albret de Navarre - 1572
13 [15] King Henri IV de France - 1610
14 King Louis XIII de France 1601 - 1643
15 [17] Philippe d'Orleans 1640 - 1701 ref #: BxP:461
16 [11] Frederica von Schomberg 1688 - 1751
17 [12] Caroline von Holdernesse - 1778
14 Henrietta-Maria Bourbon 1609 - 1669
15 [13] King Charles II of England 1630 - 1684/85 ref #: W17C-18
15 [14] King James II of England 1633 - 1701
7 Rey Louis I de Anjou 1339 - 1384
8 Rey Ludivico II di Napoli 1377 - 1417
9 King Rene de Anjou 1409 - 1480
10 Yolande d'Anjou 1428 - Abt. 1483
11 Marguerite de Lorraine-Vaudemont 1463 - 1521
12 Francoise d'Alencon 1491 - 1550
13 Antoine de Bourbon 1518 - 1562
14 [15] King Henri IV de France - 1610
9 Marie de Anjou 1404 - 1463
10 [16] Madelaine de France 1443 - Aft. 1485
7 Philippe de Bourgogne 1341/42 - 1404
8 Duke John de Bourgogne 1371 - 1419 ref #: EC1:57
9 [135] Philip III de Bourgogne 1396 - 1467 ref #: EC1:57
10 [63] Duke Charles de Bourgogne 1433 - 1476/77 ref #: EC1:57
11 [28] Marie de Bourgogne 1456/57 - 1482
12 [62] King Philip von Hapsburg 1478 - 1506 ref #: EC1:58
13 [64] King Charles I de España 1499/00 - 1558 ref #: EC1:58
14 [60] King Philip II de España 1527 - 1598 ref #: EC1:58
15 [18] King Philip III de España 1578 - 1621
16 [20] Anne d'Autriche 1601 - 1665/66
17 [17] Philippe d'Orleans 1640 - 1701 ref #: BxP:461
14 [61] Maria de España 1528 - 1602/03
15 [19] Anna Maria von Österreich 1549 - 1580
16 [18] King Philip III de España 1578 - 1621
13 [65] Emperor Ferdinand I von Österreich 1502/03 - 1564 ref #:
EC3:267
14 Emperor Maximilian II von Österreich 1527 - 1576 ref #: (EC1:58)
15 [19] Anna Maria von Österreich 1549 - 1580
14 Archduke Charles von Styria
15 Margaret von Österreich 1584 - 1611
16 [20] Anne d'Autriche 1601 - 1665/66
9 [136] Marie de Bourgogne - 1463
10 Katherine von Kleve 1417 - ref #: ESvi:17,37
11 Maria von Egmond 1433 - 1463 ref #: (Ä252-35)
12 [80] King James III of Scotland 1451 - 1488 ref #: W92-12
13 King James IV of Scotland 1472/73 - 1513 ref #: W92-13
14 Catherine Stewart ref #: BPci:1554
15 [75] Margaret Douglas ref #: BPci:1554
16 [23] Sir Claude Hamilton 1543 - Bef. 1621 ref #: W92A-15
17 [79] Sir James Hamilton - 1617/18 ref #: BPci:3
18 Sir George Hamilton - 1679 ref #: BPci:3
19 Col. James Hamilton - 1673 ref #: BPci:3
20 Sir James Hamilton - 1734 ref #: BPci:3
21 Sir James Hamilton 1684/85 - 1743/44 ref #: BPci:3
22 Capt. John Hamilton - 1755 ref #: BPci:3
23 Sir John James Hamilton 1756 - ref #: BPci:3
24 Sir James Hamilton 1786 - 1814 ref #: BPci:3
25 [27] Sir James Hamilton 1811 - 1885 ref #: BPci:4
26 [21] Sir James Hamilton 1838 - 1913 ref #: BPci:4
14 [22] King James V of Scotland 1512 - 1542 ref #: W92-14
12 [81] Princess Mary Stewart Bef. 1452 - 1488 ref #: W92A-12
13 Sir James Hamilton Abt. 1475 - Bef. 1529 ref #: W92A-13
14 Sir James Hamilton - 1574/75 ref #: W92A-14
15 [23] Sir Claude Hamilton 1543 - Bef. 1621 ref #: W92A-15
13 Elizabeth Hamilton ref #: BxP:512
14 Sir John Stewart ref #: BxP:512
15 Sir Matthew Stewart - 1571 ref #: BxP:512
16 [24] Sir Henry Stewart 1545 - 1566/67 ref #: BxP:512
15 Sir John Stewart - 1567 ref #: BxP:512
16 Sir Esme Stewart - 1583 ref #: BxP:513
17 Sir Esme Stuart - 1624 ref #: BxP:513
18 Elizabeth Stuart - 1672/73 ref #: BxP:513
19 [34] Sir Henry Howard 1628 - 1682/83 ref #: BxP:286
20 Elizabeth Howard
21 Sir Alexander Gordon - 1728 ref #: BxP:234
22 [50] Sir Cosmo-George Gordon - 1752 ref #: BxP:286
23 Sir Alexander Gordon 1743 - 1827 ref #: BxP:234
24 Charlotte Gordon - 1842 ref #: BxP:234
25 [25] Sir Charles Lennox 1791 - 1860 ref #: BPci:1842
24 Georgiana Elizabeth Gordon - 1853 ref #: (BxP:381)
25 [26] Louisa Jane Russell - 1905
12 [82] Margaret Stewart ref #: BRF:236
13 Margaret Crichton - Bef. 1546 ref #: BRF:236
14 Agnes Leslie ref #: BPci:1883
15 Robert Douglas - Bef. 1588 ref #: BPci:1554
16 [73] Sir William Douglas 1582 - 1648 ref #: BPci:1554
17 [72] Sir James Douglas - 1686 ref #: BPci:1554
18 Sir George Douglas 1662 - 1737/38 ref #: BPci:1554
19 Sir James Douglas 1703 - 1768 ref #: BPci:1554
20 John Douglas 1756 - 1818 ref #: (BPci:3)
21 Harriet Douglas - 1833 ref #: BPci:1555
22 [27] Sir James Hamilton 1811 - 1885 ref #: BPci:4
9 [137] Agnes de Bourgogne ref #: (EC1:57)
10 Isabella de Bourbon - 1465
11 [28] Marie de Bourgogne 1456/57 - 1482
7 Jeanne de France
8 Jeanne de Navarre Abt. 1370 - 1437 ref #: BxP:163
9 Marguerite de Dreux 1397 - 1428
10 Marguerite de Rohan
11 [29] Comte Charles de Valois - 1496
8 King Carlos III de Navarre - 1425
9 Queen Blanca de Navarre - 1441
10 Queen Leonor de Navarre - 1479
11 Gaston de Foix
12 [30] Queen Catalina de Foix 1470 - 1517
5 Jeanne de Valois Abt. 1294 - Abt. 1352 ref #: Ä103-33
6 Philippa de Hainault 1311 - 1369 ref #: Ä103-34
7 Prince Lionel Plantagenet 1338 - 1368 ref #: F230:11
8 Philippa Plantagenet 1355 - 1381/82 ref #: F231:10
9 Elizabeth de Mortimer 1370/71 - 1417 ref #: F148:10
10 Sir Henry Percy 1392/93 - 1455 ref #: F149:9
11 [112] Sir Henry Percy 1421 - 1461 ref #: F149:8
12 Margaret Percy Abt. 1447 - ref #: F238:5
13 [97] Elizabeth Gascoigne Abt. 1471 - 1559 ref #: F238:4
14 Anne Tailboys Abt. 1508 - ref #: F238:3
15 Frances Dymoke Abt. 1550 - Aft. 1610 ref #: F238:2
16 Mildred Windebank 1584 - 1656 ref #: F239:1
17 Col. George Reade 1608 - 1671 ref #: F239:1iv
18 Mildred Reade - Abt. 1694 ref #: F239:1ivf
19 Mary Warner ref #: AAP:347
20 Mildred Smith 1682 - ref #: AAP:347
21 Rev. Robert Porteus, Jr. Abt. 1705 - 1754 ref #: AAP:347
22 Mildred Porteus 1744 - ref #: AAP:347
23 Very Rev. Robert Hodgson Abt. 1776 - 1844 ref #: AAP:347
24 Henrietta Mildred Hodgson ref #: AAP:347
25 Frances Dora Smith 1830 - 1922 ref #: AAP:347
26 Sir Claude George Bowes-Lyon 1855 - 1944 ref #: AAP:347
27 [33] Elizabeth Angela Marguerite Bowes-Lyon 1900 - ref #: AAP:347
28 [31] Queen Elizabeth II of England 1926 - ref #: AAP:347
12 Sir Henry Percy Abt. 1449 - 1489 ref #: F150:7
13 Sir Henry Algernon Percy 1477/78 - 1527 ref #: F150:6
14 [88] Sir Thomas Percy - 1537 ref #: F150:5
15 [51] Sir Henry Percy - 1585 ref #: BxP:424
16 [92] Sir Henry Percy - 1632 ref #: BxP:425
17 [85] Dorothy Percy ref #: BxP:525
18 Dorothy Sydney - 1683/84 ref #: BxP:525
19 [43] Sir Robert Spencer 1640 - 1702 ref #: BPci:1457
20 [48] Sir Charles Spencer 1674 - 1722 ref #: BPci:1457
21 John Spencer 1708 - 1746
22 John Spencer 1734 - 1783
23 Sir George John Spencer 1758 - 1834
24 Sir Frederick Spencer 1798 - 1857
25 [32] Sir Charles Robert Spencer 1857 - 1922 ref #: (see notes)
14 [89] Margaret Percy ref #: BxP:424
15 [53] Sir Henry Clifford 1517 - 1568/69 ref #: BxP:123
16 [45] Sir Francis Clifford - 1641 ref #: BxP:123
17 Sir Henry Clifford - 1643 ref #: BxP:123
18 [126] Elizabeth Clifford 1613 - ref #: (BPci:514)
19 Charlotte Elizabeth Boyle - 1754 ref #: (BPci:648)
20 [37] Dorothy Cavendish - 1794 ref #: BPci:650
21 [40] William Charles Augustus Cavendish-Bentinck 1780 - 1826 ref
#: BPci:1759
22 Rev. Charles William Frederick Cavendish-Bentinck 1817 - 1865
23 Nina Cecilia Cavendish-Bentinck 1862 - 1938 ref #: BPci:1759
24 [33] Elizabeth Angela Marguerite Bowes-Lyon 1900 - ref #: AAP:347
14 [90] Anne Percy ref #: BxP:202
15 [98] Sir Henry FitzAlan - 1579/80 ref #: BxP:202
16 [105] Mary FitzAlan ref #: BxP:202
17 [35] Sir Philip Howard 1557 - 1595 ref #: BPci:1622
18 Sir Thomas Howard 1585 - 1646
19 [46] Sir Henry Frederick Howard 1608 - 1652 ref #: BxP:286
20 [34] Sir Henry Howard 1628 - 1682/83 ref #: BxP:286
13 Eleanor Percy - 1529/30 ref #: F244:5
14 [94] Elizabeth Stafford - 1558 ref #: BxP:500
15 Sir Henry Howard 1517 - 1546/47 ref #: BPci:1622
16 Sir Thomas Howard 1535/36 - 1572 ref #: BPci:1622
17 [35] Sir Philip Howard 1557 - 1595 ref #: BPci:1622
17 [106] Sir Thomas Howard 1561 - ref #: BPci:2100
18 Frances Howard - 1632 ref #: BxP:107
19 Anne Carr 1615 - 1684 ref #: BxP:107
20 [47] Sir William Russell 1639 - 1683 ref #: BPci:182
21 [41] Sir Wriothesley Russell 1680 - 1711 ref #: BPci:182
22 Sir John Russell 1710 - 1771 ref #: BPci:183
23 Sir Francis Russell 1739 - 1767 ref #: BPci:183
24 [36] Sir John Russell 1766 - 1839 ref #: BPci:183
21 [42] Rachel Russell - 1725 ref #: (BPci:648)
22 [38] Sir William Cavendish 1698 - 1755 ref #: BPci:648
23 Sir William Cavendish 1720 - 1764 ref #: BPci:648
24 [37] Dorothy Cavendish - 1794 ref #: BPci:650
18 Catherine Howard - Bef. 1672/73 ref #: BPci:2101
19 [125] Elizabeth Cecil - 1689 ref #: BPci:1931
20 Sir William Cavendish 1640/41 - 1707 ref #: BPci:648
21 Sir William Cavendish 1672 - 1729 ref #: BPci:648
22 [38] Sir William Cavendish 1698 - 1755 ref #: BPci:648
12 Anne Percy ref #: F149:7ii
13 Mary Hungerford Abt. 1467 - Bef. 1533 ref #: F32:9i
14 [107] Sir George Hastings 1488 - 1543/44 ref #: F135:6
15 [95] Sir Francis Hastings 1514 - 1560 ref #: F135:6i
16 [59] Elizabeth Hastings 1546 - 1621 ref #: F255:4
17 [91] Sir Henry Somerset Abt. 1577 - 1646 ref #: F255:3
18 Sir Edward Somerset Aft. 1600 - 1667 ref #: BPci:173
19 Sir Henry Somerset 1629 - 1698/99 ref #: BPci:173
20 [44] Sir Charles Somerset 1660 - 1698 ref #: BPci:173
21 Henrietta Somerset - 1726 ref #: BPci:173
22 [39] Isabella Fitzroy 1726 - 1782 ref #: (BPci:942)
14 [108] Anne Hastings - 1550 ref #: F200:7
15 [111] Margaret Stanley ref #: F200:6
16 Jane Radcliffe Abt. 1532 - 1552 ref #: F201:5
17 [100] Mary Browne ref #: BxP:79
18 Sir Henry Wriothesley - 1624 ref #: BxP:594
19 Sir Thomas Wriothesley - 1667 ref #: BxP:594
20 Elizabeth Wriothesley ref #: BxP:594
21 Sir Wriothesley Baptist Noel - 1690 ref #: BPci:876
22 [49] Elizabeth Noel - 1736/37 ref #: (BPci:1759)
23 Sir William Bentinck 1708/09 - 1762 ref #: (BPci:162)
24 Sir William Henry Cavendish-Bentinck 1738 - 1809 ref #: BPci:1759
25 [40] William Charles Augustus Cavendish-Bentinck 1780 - 1826 ref
#: BPci:1759
20 Frances Wriothesley - 1723 ref #: BxP:594
21 [41] Sir Wriothesley Russell 1680 - 1711 ref #: BPci:182
21 [42] Rachel Russell - 1725 ref #: (BPci:648)
19 Penelope Wriothesley - 1667 ref #: BxP:594
20 Sir Henry Spencer 1620 - 1643 ref #: BxP:525
21 [43] Sir Robert Spencer 1640 - 1702 ref #: BPci:1457
11 [113] Katherine Percy 1423 - Abt. 1504 ref #: F135:7
12 [68] Sir George Grey - 1504 ref #: BxP:252
13 Anne Grey ref #: BxP:252
14 Bridget Hussey - 1599/00 ref #: BxP:294
15 Charles Morrison ref #: BxP:294
16 Sir Charles Morrison ref #: (BPci:789)
17 Elizabeth Morrison ref #: (BPci:789)
18 [55] Mary Capell - 1714/15 ref #: (BPci:173)
19 [44] Sir Charles Somerset 1660 - 1698 ref #: BPci:173
12 [69] Elizabeth Grey ref #: F135:7ii
13 [96] Elizabeth Greystoke 1471 - 1516 ref #: F135:7iia
14 Sir William Dacre - 1563 ref #: BxP:153
15 [109] Anne Dacre ref #: (BxP:153)
16 [45] Sir Francis Clifford - 1641 ref #: BxP:123
14 Mary Dacre ref #: BPci:1989
15 [110] Sir George Talbot 1528 - 1590 ref #: BPci:1989
16 [54] Sir Gilbert Talbot 1552 - 1616 ref #: BPci:1989
17 Alathea Talbot ref #: BxP:527
18 [46] Sir Henry Frederick Howard 1608 - 1652 ref #: BxP:286
12 [70] Anne Grey ref #: F136:6
13 [83] Sir Edmund Grey Abt. 1469 - 1511 ref #: F136:5
14 Elizabeth Grey ref #: BxP:246
15 Sir Edmund Bruges - 1573 ref #: BxP:84
16 Sir Giles Bruges - 1593/94 ref #: BxP:84
17 Catherine Brydges - 1656/57 ref #: (BPci:182)
18 Sir William Russell 1613 - 1700 ref #: BPci:182
19 [47] Sir William Russell 1639 - 1683 ref #: BPci:182
18 Anne Russell ref #: BxP:171
19 Anne Digby - 1715 ref #: BxP:171
20 [48] Sir Charles Spencer 1674 - 1722 ref #: BPci:1457
18 Catherine Russell ref #: (BPci:2250)
19 [119] Sir Fulke Greville ref #: BPci:2250
20 Catherine Brooke ref #: (BPci:876)
21 [49] Elizabeth Noel - 1736/37 ref #: (BPci:1759)
16 Sir William Bruges - 1602 ref #: BxP:84
17 Frances Bruges ref #: BxP:103
18 Margaret Smith ref #: BxP:103
19 [86] Elizabeth Carey ref #: BxP:380
20 [87] Sir Charles Mordaunt - 1735 ref #: BxP:380
21 Henrietta Mordaunt ref #: BxP:381
22 [50] Sir Cosmo-George Gordon - 1752 ref #: BxP:286
11 [114] Ralph Percy - 1464 ref #: F149:9ii
12 Margaret Percy - Aft. 1505 ref #: F149:9iia
13 Guiscard Harbottle ref #: F128:5
14 Eleanor Harbottle - 1567 ref #: F128:5i
15 [51] Sir Henry Percy - 1585 ref #: BxP:424
10 Elizabeth Percy - 1437 ref #: F179:8
11 Mary de Clifford ref #: F129:7
12 Sir Henry Wentworth Abt. 1448 - Abt. 1500 ref #: F129:6
13 Margery Wentworth - 1550 ref #: F239:5
14 Sir Edward Seymour Abt. 1500 - 1551/52 ref #: BxP:487
15 Sir Edward Seymour - 1593 ref #: BPci:2029
16 Sir Edward Seymour - 1613 ref #: BPci:2031
17 Sir Edward Seymour - 1659 ref #: BPci:2031
18 Sir Edward Seymour Bef. 1610 - 1688 ref #: BPci:2031
19 Sir Edward Seymour 1633 - 1707/08 ref #: BPci:1089
20 Sir Francis Seymour-Conway 1679 - 1731/32 ref #: BPci:1089
21 Sir Francis Seymour 1718 - 1794 ref #: BPci:1090
22 [52] Adm. Sir Hugh Seymour 1759 - 1801
11 Sir Thomas Clifford 1414 - 1455 ref #: F179:7
12 Sir John Clifford 1435 - 1461 ref #: BxP:123
13 Sir Henry Clifford Abt. 1454 - 1526 ref #: BxP:123
14 Sir Henry Clifford 1493 - ref #: BPci:1640
15 [53] Sir Henry Clifford 1517 - 1568/69 ref #: BxP:123
9 Sir Roger de Mortimer 1374 - 1398 ref #: F232:9
10 Anne Mortimer 1390 - 1411 ref #: F232:9i
11 [131] Sir Richard Plantagenet 1411 - 1460 ref #: F292:7
12 [120] Anne Plantagenet 1439 - 1475/76 ref #: F257:7
13 Anne St. Leger 1476 - 1526 ref #: F257:6
14 Sir Thomas Manners ref #: BPci:1903
15 Gertrude Manners ref #: BPci:1903
16 [54] Sir Gilbert Talbot 1552 - 1616 ref #: BPci:1989
15 Catherine Manners ref #: BPci:1903
16 Sir Arthur Capell ref #: BPci:789
17 [101] Sir Henry Capell ref #: (BPci:789)
18 Sir Arthur Capell - 1648/49 ref #: BPci:789
19 [55] Mary Capell - 1714/15 ref #: (BPci:173)
15 Elizabeth Manners ref #: BPci:1903
16 [93] Sir John Savage - 1615 ref #: BxP:474
17 Sir Thomas Savage - 1635 ref #: BxP:474
18 Anne Savage - 1696 ref #: (BPci:27)
19 Sir Francis Brudenell - 1698 ref #: BPci:27
20 Anne Brudenell - 1722 ref #: (BPci:1842)
21 [56] Sir Charles Lennox 1701 - 1750 ref #: BPci:1842
21 [57] Countess Anne Lennox 1703 - 1789
12 [121] King Edward IV of England 1442 - 1483 ref #: F292:7ii
13 Princess Elizabeth Plantagenet 1464/65 - 1502/03 ref #: F292:7iid
14 [58] Princess Margaret Tudor 1489 - 1541 ref #: W161-22
12 [122] Sir George Plantagenet 1449 - 1478 ref #: F294:6
13 [99] Margaret Plantagenet 1473 - 1541 ref #: F254:7
14 Sir Henry Pole Abt. 1492 - 1538/39 ref #: F255:6
15 [124] Katherine Pole 1511 - 1576 ref #: F255:5
16 [59] Elizabeth Hastings 1546 - 1621 ref #: F255:4
7 Sir John of Gaunt 1339/40 - 1398/99 ref #: F15:11
8 Philippe Plantagenet 1360 - 1415 ref #: F155:11v
9 King Duarte de Portugal 1391 - 1438
10 Duque Fernando de Viseu 1433 - 1470
11 [67] King Manoel I de Portugal 1469 - 1521 ref #: (EC1:58)
12 [66] Isabella de Portugal 1503 - 1539 ref #: (EC1:58)
13 [60] King Philip II de España 1527 - 1598 ref #: EC1:58
13 [61] Maria de España 1528 - 1602/03
10 Leonor Helena de Portugal ref #: (EC1:58)
11 Emperor Maximilian I von Österreich 1458/59 - 1518/19
12 [62] King Philip von Hapsburg 1478 - 1506 ref #: EC1:58
9 Isabel de Portugal 1396/97 - 1472 ref #: (EC1:57)
10 [63] Duke Charles de Bourgogne 1433 - 1476/77 ref #: EC1:57
9 Joao de Portugal 1399/00 - 1442
10 Isabella de Portugal 1428 -
11 [71] Queen Isabella de Castile 1451 - 1504 ref #: AAP:365
12 Queen Juana de España 1479 - 1555 ref #: (EC1:58)
13 [64] King Charles I de España 1499/00 - 1558 ref #: EC1:58
13 [65] Emperor Ferdinand I von Österreich 1502/03 - 1564 ref #:
EC3:267
12 Maria de Aragon 1482 - 1516/17 ref #: (EC1:58)
13 [66] Isabella de Portugal 1503 - 1539 ref #: (EC1:58)
10 Beatriz de Portugal 1430 - 1506
11 [67] King Manoel I de Portugal 1469 - 1521 ref #: (EC1:58)
8 Elizabeth Plantagenet Bef. 1362/63 - 1425 ref #: F121:8
9 Constance de Holand Abt. 1387 - 1437 ref #: F121:7
10 Sir Edmund Grey 1416 - 1490 ref #: F121:7i
11 [68] Sir George Grey - 1504 ref #: BxP:252
11 [69] Elizabeth Grey ref #: F135:7ii
11 [70] Anne Grey ref #: F136:6
8 Katherine Plantagenet 1372 - 1418
9 King Juan II de Castile 1405 - 1454
10 [71] Queen Isabella de Castile 1451 - 1504 ref #: AAP:365
8 Sir John Beaufort Abt. 1372 - 1409/10 ref #: F16:10
9 Joan Beaufort - 1445 ref #: F16:10v
10 Annabella Stewart ref #: (BPci:1152)
11 Elizabeth Gordon ref #: BxP:303
12 [78] Sir Robert Keith - 1513 ref #: BxP:303
13 [76] Sir William Keith - 1581 ref #: BxP:303
14 Sir William Keith ref #: BxP:303
15 [74] Sir George Keith - 1623 ref #: BxP:303
16 Anne Keith - 1648 ref #: BxP:303
17 [72] Sir James Douglas - 1686 ref #: BPci:1554
13 [77] Janet Keith
14 Sir John Lyon - 1577/78 ref #: BPci:2087
15 Jean Lyon ref #: BPci:2088
16 [73] Sir William Douglas 1582 - 1648 ref #: BPci:1554
11 Isabel Gordon ref #: (BPci:780)
12 Thomas Hay - 1513 ref #: BPci:780
13 Sir George Hay - 1573/74 ref #: BPci:780
14 Elizabeth Hay ref #: BPci:780
15 [74] Sir George Keith - 1623 ref #: BxP:303
10 Joan Stewart ref #: W93-11
11 Sir John Douglas - Bef. 1515 ref #: BPci:1554
12 Sir James Douglas - Bef. 1550 ref #: BPci:1554
13 [75] Margaret Douglas ref #: BPci:1554
12 Elizabeth Douglas ref #: BPci:1554
13 [76] Sir William Keith - 1581 ref #: BxP:303
13 [77] Janet Keith
11 Janet Douglas ref #: W93-12
12 Muriella Erskine ref #: BxP:303
13 Sir William Keith - 1530 ref #: BxP:303
14 [78] Sir Robert Keith - 1513 ref #: BxP:303
12 Janet Hepburn - Aft. 1558 ref #: W93-13
13 Sir George Seton ref #: W93-14
14 Sir George Seton - 1583/84 ref #: BxP:486
15 Margaret Seton - Bef. 1615/16 ref #: BxP:486
16 [79] Sir James Hamilton - 1617/18 ref #: BPci:3
10 King James II of Scotland 1430 - 1460 ref #: W92-11
11 [80] King James III of Scotland 1451 - 1488 ref #: W92-12
11 [81] Princess Mary Stewart Bef. 1452 - 1488 ref #: W92A-12
11 [82] Margaret Stewart ref #: BRF:236
9 Sir John Beaufort Bef. 1404 - 1444 ref #: F16:10ii
10 Thomasine of Somerset - Aft. 1469 ref #: F16:10iib
11 Sir John Grey - 1499 ref #: F281:7i
12 [83] Sir Edmund Grey Abt. 1469 - 1511 ref #: F136:5
10 Margaret Beaufort 1443 - 1509 ref #: F16:10iia
11 [84] King Henry VII of England 1456/57 - 1509 ref #: F16:10iia1
9 Sir Edmund Beaufort Abt. 1406 - 1455 ref #: F17:9
10 Alianor Beaufort - 1501 ref #: F53:5
11 Margaret Spencer Abt. 1472 - ref #: F54:4
12 William Cary Abt. 1495 - 1528 ref #: F54:3
13 Katherine Cary Abt. 1521 - 1568/69 ref #: F54:2
14 Lettice Knollys ref #: BxP:307
15 Dorothy Devereux ref #: BxP:425
16 [85] Dorothy Percy ref #: BxP:525
13 Sir Henry Carey Abt. 1524 - 1596 ref #: BxP:102
14 Sir Robert Carey Abt. 1560 - 1639 ref #: BxP:103
15 Thomas Carey - 1649 ref #: BxP:103
16 [86] Elizabeth Carey ref #: BxP:380
14 Katherine Carey ref #: (BxP:287)
15 Sir William Howard - Bef. 1625 ref #: BxP:287
16 Elizabeth Howard ref #: BxP:287
17 Sir John Mordaunt - 1675 ref #: BxP:380
18 [87] Sir Charles Mordaunt - 1735 ref #: BxP:380
11 Katherine Spencer - 1542 ref #: F53:5ii
12 [88] Sir Thomas Percy - 1537 ref #: F150:5
12 [89] Margaret Percy ref #: BxP:424
12 [90] Anne Percy ref #: BxP:202
10 Sir Henry Beaufort 1435/36 - 1464 ref #: F18:8
11 Sir Charles Somerset Abt. 1460 - 1526 ref #: F18:7
12 Sir Henry Somerset - 1549 ref #: F19:6
13 [102] Sir William Somerset Abt. 1527 - 1588/89 ref #: F19:5
14 Sir Edward Somerset Abt. 1550 - 1627/28 ref #: F19:5i
15 [91] Sir Henry Somerset Abt. 1577 - 1646 ref #: F255:3
13 [103] Lucy Somerset ref #: BxP:398
14 [118] Katherine Neville - 1596 ref #: BxP:398
15 [92] Sir Henry Percy - 1632 ref #: BxP:425
12 Elizabeth Somerset ref #: BxP:473
13 Sir John Savage - 1597 ref #: BxP:473
14 [93] Sir John Savage - 1615 ref #: BxP:474
10 Margaret Beaufort Abt. 1437 - 1474 ref #: F17:9v
11 [115] Sir Henry Stafford 1455 - 1483 ref #: F7:7
12 Sir Edward Stafford 1477/78 - 1521 ref #: F7:7i
13 [94] Elizabeth Stafford - 1558 ref #: BxP:500
12 Anne Stafford Abt. 1493 - ref #: F7:7ii
13 [95] Sir Francis Hastings 1514 - 1560 ref #: F135:6i
8 Joan Beaufort Abt. 1379 - 1440 ref #: F15:11iv
9 Elizabeth de Ferrers 1392 - 1434 ref #: Ä62-35
10 Sir Ralph de Greystoke - 1487 ref #: BxP:254
11 Sir Robert Greystoke ref #: BxP:254
12 [96] Elizabeth Greystoke 1471 - 1516 ref #: F135:7iia
9 Mary de Ferrers Abt. 1394 - 1457/58 ref #: F15:11iva
10 John Neville Abt. 1416 - 1481/82 ref #: F204:8
11 Joan Neville Abt. 1443 - ref #: F204:7
12 William Gascoigne Abt. 1445 - 1486/87 ref #: F204:7i
13 [97] Elizabeth Gascoigne Abt. 1471 - 1559 ref #: F238:4
9 Sir Richard Neville Abt. 1400 - 1460 ref #: F15:11ivb
10 Joan Neville Abt. 1423 - Bef. 1462 ref #: BxP:395
11 Sir Thomas FitzAlan Abt. 1450 - 1524 ref #: BxP:202
12 Sir William FitzAlan - 1544 ref #: BxP:202
13 [98] Sir Henry FitzAlan - 1579/80 ref #: BxP:202
10 Sir Richard Neville 1428 - 1471 ref #: F193:6i
11 [128] Isabel Neville 1451 - 1476 ref #: F193:6ia
12 [99] Margaret Plantagenet 1473 - 1541 ref #: F254:7
10 Sir John Neville Abt. 1431 - 1471 ref #: F194:7
11 Lucy Neville - 1534 ref #: F194:7ii
12 Anthony Browne - 1548 ref #: F38:6
13 Sir Anthony Browne - 1592 ref #: F38:6i
14 [100] Mary Browne ref #: BxP:79
13 Mary Browne ref #: F38:6ii
14 [104] Margaret Grey ref #: (BPci:789)
15 [101] Sir Henry Capell ref #: (BPci:789)
12 Elizabeth Browne ref #: F38:7ii
13 [102] Sir William Somerset Abt. 1527 - 1588/89 ref #: F19:5
13 [103] Lucy Somerset ref #: BxP:398
10 Katherine Neville Abt. 1435 - Bef. 1504 ref #: F134:8
11 Cecily Bonville 1461 - 1530 ref #: F28:7i
12 Sir Thomas Grey 1477 - 1530 ref #: F120:4
13 Sir John Grey ref #: F120:3
14 [104] Margaret Grey ref #: (BPci:789)
13 Catherine Grey ref #: BxP:250
14 [105] Mary FitzAlan ref #: BxP:202
13 Elizabeth Grey ref #: BxP:17
14 Margaret Audley - 1563/64 ref #: BPci:1622
15 [106] Sir Thomas Howard 1561 - ref #: BPci:2100
11 Sir Edward Hastings 1466 - 1506 ref #: F134:7
12 [107] Sir George Hastings 1488 - 1543/44 ref #: F135:6
12 [108] Anne Hastings - 1550 ref #: F200:7
11 Anne Hastings ref #: BPci:1989
12 [116] Elizabeth Talbot
13 [109] Anne Dacre ref #: (BxP:153)
12 [117] Sir Francis Talbot 1500 - 1560 ref #: BPci:1989
13 [110] Sir George Talbot 1528 - 1590 ref #: BPci:1989
10 Alainor Neville Abt. 1438 - Bef. 1474 ref #: F193:6iv
11 Sir George Stanley Abt. 1460 - 1503 ref #: F108:8
12 Sir Thomas Stanley Bef. 1485 - 1521 ref #: F108:8i
13 [111] Margaret Stanley ref #: F200:6
9 Alainor Neville Abt. 1407 - 1472 ref #: F15:11ivf
10 [112] Sir Henry Percy 1421 - 1461 ref #: F149:8
10 [113] Katherine Percy 1423 - Abt. 1504 ref #: F135:7
10 [114] Ralph Percy - 1464 ref #: F149:9ii
9 Anne Neville Abt. 1411 - 1480 ref #: F15:11ivg
10 [132] Sir Humphrey Stafford Abt. 1424 - 1455 ref #: F7:8
11 [115] Sir Henry Stafford 1455 - 1483 ref #: F7:7
10 [133] Catherine Stafford Abt. 1437 - 1476 ref #: BPci:1989
11 Sir George Talbot 1468 - 1538 ref #: BPci:1989
12 [116] Elizabeth Talbot
12 [117] Sir Francis Talbot 1500 - 1560 ref #: BPci:1989
9 Sir George Neville Abt. 1414 - 1469 ref #: F15:11ivd
10 Henry Neville - 1469 ref #: F14:8i
11 [134] Sir Richard Neville Abt. 1468 - 1530 ref #: F29:5
12 Sir John Neville 1493 - 1542/43 ref #: BxP:398
13 Sir John Neville Bef. 1527 - 1577 ref #: BxP:398
14 [118] Katherine Neville - 1596 ref #: BxP:398
12 Margaret Neville 1494/95 - ref #: F30:4
13 Elizabeth Willoughby - 1562 ref #: F30:3
14 Robert Greville ref #: BPci:2249
15 Fulke Greville - 1632 ref #: BPci:2249
16 Sir Robert Greville - 1643 ref #: BPci:2250
17 [119] Sir Fulke Greville ref #: BPci:2250
9 Cecily Neville 1415 - 1495 ref #: F15:11ivh
10 [120] Anne Plantagenet 1439 - 1475/76 ref #: F257:7
10 [121] King Edward IV of England 1442 - 1483 ref #: F292:7ii
10 [122] Sir George Plantagenet 1449 - 1478 ref #: F294:6
9 Sir Edward Neville Abt. 1417 - 1476 ref #: F15:11ive
10 [127] Sir George Neville 1440 - 1492 ref #: F212:5
11 Sir Edward Neville Abt. 1471 - 1538 ref #: F212:4
12 Frances Neville ref #: WFT7:2663
13 Charles Waldegrave - 1549/50 ref #: BPci:2228
14 Sir Edward Waldegrave - Aft. 1647 ref #: BPci:2228
15 Sir Henry Waldegrave 1598 - 1658 ref #: BPci:2228
16 Sir Charles Waldegrave - 1684 ref #: (BPci:2228)
17 Sir Henry Waldegrave 1661 - 1689 ref #: BPci:2228
18 [123] Sir James Waldegrave - 1741 ref #: BPci:2228
11 Jane Neville Abt. 1481 - 1538/39 ref #: F212:5iii
12 [124] Katherine Pole 1511 - 1576 ref #: F255:5
10 Margaret Neville - 1506 ref #: F197:8iia
11 [130] Sir Thomas Brooke - 1529 ref #: F288:4
12 Sir George Brooke - 1558 ref #: BxP:77
13 Sir William Brooke ref #: BxP:77
14 Elizabeth Brooke - 1596/97 ref #: BxP:77
15 Sir William Cecil 1591 - 1668 ref #: BPci:1931
16 [125] Elizabeth Cecil - 1689 ref #: BPci:1931
15 Frances Cecil - 1643/44 ref #: BPci:1931
16 [126] Elizabeth Clifford 1613 - ref #: (BPci:514)
7 Edmund Plantagenet 1344 - 1402 ref #: F291:9
8 Constance Plantagenet Abt. 1374 - 1416 ref #: F210:8
9 Isabel le Despencer 1400 - 1439 ref #: F211:7
10 Elizabeth Beauchamp 1415 - 1448 ref #: F211:6
11 [127] Sir George Neville 1440 - 1492 ref #: F212:5
10 Anne Beauchamp 1426 - Bef. 1492 ref #: F13:9iii
11 [128] Isabel Neville 1451 - 1476 ref #: F193:6ia
9 Alianor Holand Abt. 1405 -
10 Constance Tuchet Aft. 1430 - ref #: BP1:624
11 Jane Whitney
12 Elizabeth Vaughan
13 Rowland Morgan 1498 - 1577
14 Thomas Morgan 1534 - 1603
15 Sir William Morgan 1560 - 1653
16 Elizabeth Morgan 1583 - 1638
17 James Morgan Abt. 1607 - 1685 ref #: AAP:349
18 Joseph Morgan 1646 - 1704 ref #: AAP:349
19 Margaret Morgan ref #: AAP:349
20 Keziah Hibbard ref #: AAP:348
21 Lucy Bishop ref #: AAP:348
22 Joseph Strong 1770 - 1812 ref #: AACPW:21.1
23 Eleanor Strong Abt. 1802 - 1863 ref #: AACPW:21.2
24 Ellen Wood 1831 - 1877 ref #: AACPW:22.3
25 Frances Eleanor Work 1857 - 1947 ref #: AACPW:22.4
26 Sir Edmund Maurice Burke Roche 1885 - 1955 ref #: AACPW:22.5
27 Frances Ruth Burke Roche 1936 - ref #: AACPW:22.6
28 [129] Diana Frances Spencer 1961 - 1997 ref #: AAP:347
10 Elizabeth Tuchet ref #: F270:9ii
11 Sir John Brooke Bef. 1464 - 1511/12 ref #: F287:5
12 [130] Sir Thomas Brooke - 1529 ref #: F288:4
8 Sir Richard Plantagenet Abt. 1376 - 1415 ref #: F292:8
9 [131] Sir Richard Plantagenet 1411 - 1460 ref #: F292:7
7 Sir Thomas Plantagenet 1354/55 - 1397 ref #: F158:9
8 Anne Plantagenet 1383 - 1438 ref #: F159:8
9 Sir Humphrey Stafford 1402 - 1460 ref #: F7:9
10 [132] Sir Humphrey Stafford Abt. 1424 - 1455 ref #: F7:8
10 [133] Catherine Stafford Abt. 1437 - 1476 ref #: BPci:1989
9 Sir John Bourchier - 1474 ref #: F159:7
10 Joan Bourchier - 1470 ref #: F29:6
11 [134] Sir Richard Neville Abt. 1468 - 1530 ref #: F29:5
6 Margaret de Holland - 1356
7 Count Albert von Wittelsbach - 1404
8 Margaret von Wittelsbach - 1422/23
9 [135] Philip III de Bourgogne 1396 - 1467 ref #: EC1:57
9 [136] Marie de Bourgogne - 1463
9 [137] Agnes de Bourgogne ref #: (EC1:57)
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FWIW; AFAIK; IMHO; YMMV; yadda, yadda, yadda.
Regards, Ed Mann mailto:edl...@mail2.lcia.com
References:
Ä = Weis, _Ancestral_Roots_, 7th ed.
AAP = Roberts, _Ancestors_of_American_Presidents_, [page] or
[Pres. # : page].
BP1 = _Burke's_Presidential_Families_, 1st ed. [page].
BPci = _Burke's_Peerage_, 101st ed., [page].
BRF = Weir, _Britain's_Royal_Families_, [page].
BxP = _Burke's_Dormant_&_Extinct_Peerages_, [page].
EC1 = Redlich, _Emperor_Charlemagne's_Descendants_, Vol I, [page].
EC2 = Langston & Buck, _Emperor_Charlemagne's_Descendants_, Vol II,
[page].
EC3 = Buck & Beard, _Emperor_Charlemagne's_Descendants_, Vol II,
[page].
F = Faris, _Plantagenet_Ancestry_, [page:para].
S = Stuart, _Royalty_for_Commoners_, 2d ed.
W = Weis, _Magna_Charta_Sureties,_1215_, 4th ed.
>
>In a message dated 5/14/98 7:50:11 AM, you wrote:
>
><<Kuthen's daughter, Elisabeth, in 1254 married Stephen V who, in 1270,
>became King of Hungary. They had (at least) six children and their
>descendants are to be found all over the world>>
>
>Is it likely that any of these married into Western Eurpopean royal lines?
>This is an interesting connection.
You mean like this one?
Elisabeth of the Kumans m. 1253 Stephen V King of Hungary
Maria of Hungary m. 1270 Charles II King of Sicily
Margaret of Sicily m. 1290 Charles I C de Valois
Jeanne de Valois m. 1305 Willem III C of Hainault
Philippa of Hainault m. 1328 Edward III K of England
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