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Lope "El Chico" Ruys de Ayala

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Tristan Tornado

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Jan 3, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/3/99
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Does anyone have any bio information on Lope "El Chico" Ruys de Ayala
of Toledo ? (married to Berenguela Gonzales de Giron).He d. in 1253.
Also is Berenguela's genealogy known ?


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Todd A. Farmerie

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Jan 12, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/12/99
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Tristan Tornado wrote:
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> Does anyone have any bio information on Lope "El Chico" Ruys de Ayala
> of Toledo ? (married to Berenguela Gonzales de Giron).He d. in 1253.
> Also is Berenguela's genealogy known ?

I have not yet found my relevant notes of Giron, but this Lope el Chico
Ruys de Ayala of Toledo looks problematic. I did not find him in my
handy Ayala material, and the connection between Ayala and Toledo
primarily occured after this time period. Finally, the name Lope 'El
Chico' reminds one of the disproven Ayala descent from Lope Lopez 'El
Chico' of the Viscaya lords of the Haro family. What is your source for
this individual? What is the descent leading to him?

taf

Todd A. Farmerie

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Jan 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/22/99
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> Tristan Tornado wrote:
> >
> > Does anyone have any bio information on Lope "El Chico" Ruys de Ayala
> > of Toledo ? (married to Berenguela Gonzales de Giron).He d. in 1253.
> > Also is Berenguela's genealogy known ?

(After some e-mail clarification, I can address this in more detail.)

Lope "el Chico" de Ayala is the supposed link between the Ayala family
and the earlier house of Haro. This is a somewhat late tradition (it
postdates the work by Fernan Perez de Ayala) and was addressed by
Salazar y Castro in his account of the Casa de Haro (early 1700s). He
rejects it, and provides the following descent (with two generations
added to the end to connect to our favorite spanish lady-in-waiting:

1. Lope Diaz, Soberano de Viscaya, m. Aldonza Ruiz de Castro (sic)
2. Sancho Lopez
3. Lope Sanchez, m. Elvira Sanchez "de Guevarra", heiress of Ayala
4. Pedro Lopez de Ayala m. Maria Sanz de Unza
5. Sancho Perez de Ayala m. Aldonza de Velascuri
6. Pedro Lopez de Ayala, Adelantado Mayor of Murcia m. Sancha Fernandez
Barroso
7. Fernan Perez de Ayala, Ricohombre, Adelantado of Murcia, (m. Aldonza
Alvarez de Ceballos)
(8. Inez Alfon de Ayala, m. Diego Gomez 'de Toledo')
(9. Sancha de Ayala m. Walter Blount)

Now, what is the basis for this connection? It is an attempt to
harmonize several traditions with the available documentary record. The
first is the tradition held within the Ayala family that they were
descended from Lope Diaz de Haro, "Cabeza Brava", (grandson of the above
Lope Diaz) but this is chronologically impossible. The second tradition
states that Sancho Perez and his "primo", Lope de Haro died together in
1288, while a first cousins once removed (which Sancho would have been
if he was great-grandson of Cabeza Brava) should have been called
"sobrino" of Lope de Haro (I find this on a little weak). Third, the
Ayalas did not use the Haro surname, which was adopted by the father of
Cabeza Brava. Last, the Ayalas use a form of the ancient 'Haro' arms,
not the newer coat adopted by Cabeza Brava's father. He concludes that
the link between the two must have been further back.

The earliest family member easy to identify is Lope Sanchez, who gained
the claim to Ayala through his wife. Prior to this time, the family had
no surname and no identifiable land holdings, so it becomes much more
difficult to definitively trace them. We know his father had the name
Sancho (from the patronymic). Since a Count Sancho Lopez son of Lope
Diaz and Aldonza is well documented, and within the right chronological
ballpark, Salazar y Castro taps him as the probable father of Lope
Sanchez (but he does acknowledge that it is not on the most solid
ground).

Fast forward to the 1900s. Balparda reconstructed the Haro family in
his history of Viscaya. He completely rearranges the branching order of
the families coming from the Haro root, but does not trace his Ayala
ancestor down far enough to know which family he is rooting (first house
of Ayala, of which Elvira Sanchez de Guevara was the heiress, is also
said to descend from Haro). ES largely follows Balparda, and it fails
to show the Sancho Lopez who Salazar y Castro made the keystone of his
bridge, and again it is unclear if the earlier Ayala ancestor is
progenitor of the first or second house. I have not found a good recent
source that discusses these generations, so we are sort of left in limbo
regarding the accuracy of that portion of the pedigree prior to Lope
Sanchez and Elvira Sanchez.

taf

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