Legendary King Arthur was russian prince
Alexander Polenov
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Legendary King Arthur was a Russian prince
LONDON, February 12 (Itar-Tass) - Legendary King Arthur, the pride of West
European knighthood, was, in fact, a Russian prince, who came to England
with
his warriors in keeping with an agreement he had concluded with Roman
Emperor
Marcus Aurelius. This sensational statement was made by Howard Reed, an
eminent British historian.
As a result of his long-lasting studies in Britain, France and Russia, Reed
arrived at the conclusion that King Arthur was chieftain of the tribes that
lived in Southern Russia, in the Sarmatian steppelands. These tribes, known
for their tall and blonde horsemen, reached the Danube early in the second
century and ran up against the Roman legions there. After some lengthy
negotiations, Rome was able to find common language with them and the core
of
the "barbarian" force included in the emperor's army. About six thousand
Russian warriors came to the British Isles in 175 b.c.
While working in the archives of the St.Petersburg Hermitage Museum, Reed
found numerous symbols from burial mounds on the territory of Russia, which
are identical to those on the banners under which the soldiers of legendary
King Arthur had fought.
Phyllis Stager
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My first reaction: Howard Reed needs vetting. Secondly: Don't tell Geoffrey
Ashe, as he will have a conniption fit. phs
Alexander Polenov wrote:
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mean with a solid reputation for valid in depth and corroborative studies?
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Ian Cairns
actual appearance of his soldiers' banners??
Ian
"Alexander Polenov" <nob...@narod.ru> wrote in message
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> Alex
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> While working in the archives of the St.Petersburg Hermitage Museum, Reed
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Chris Bennett
Alexander Polenov <nob...@narod.ru> wrote in message
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This is not actually a new theory, even though it does seem pretty bizarre.
I can't cite the references, but I recall reading about 20 years ago a
similar proposal, based on the fact that Marcus Aurelius sent a detachment
of Sarmatian auxiliaries (from what is now the Ukraine) to Britain in about
175 (AD not BC) to serve under a certain L. Artorius Castrus (?), who was
argued to be the original king Arthur. I think it was tied into a legendary
cycle from the Caucasus about the noble deeds of a bunch of Sarmatian
warriors called Narts, hence a British newspaper headline about the Narts of
the Round Table... Sorry for the vagueness, I'm sure someone can provide
more detailed information about this.
Chris
Stewart Baldwin
<cben...@adnc.com> wrote:
>This is not actually a new theory, even though it does seem pretty bizarre.
>I can't cite the references, but I recall reading about 20 years ago a
>similar proposal, based on the fact that Marcus Aurelius sent a detachment
>of Sarmatian auxiliaries (from what is now the Ukraine) to Britain in about
>175 (AD not BC) to serve under a certain L. Artorius Castrus (?), who was
>argued to be the original king Arthur. I think it was tied into a legendary
>cycle from the Caucasus about the noble deeds of a bunch of Sarmatian
>warriors called Narts, hence a British newspaper headline about the Narts of
>the Round Table... Sorry for the vagueness, I'm sure someone can provide
>more detailed information about this.
There are two essays on the subject in the first and second issues of
the online periodical "The Heoric Age" which can be found (with some
bibliographical references) at:
http://www.mun.ca/mst/heroicage/list.html
While Lucius Artorius Castus did in fact exist, I always found the
arguments attempting to turn him into a prototype of a supposedly
historical King Arthur to be far-fetched. Not too surprisingly,
Arthur enthusiasts have produced variants of the theory. One silly
version that I saw once, in a source that I unfortunately [or
fortunately? :-)] do not recall, postulated a whole dynasty of men
named Arthur/Artorius, with a genealogical table extending from the
second century Lucius Artorius Castus to a supposedly "real" King
Arthur in the sixth century.
Stewart Baldwin
A Tsar Is Born
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> this group:
Of interest, certainly.
But you ARE pulling our collective leg, now, aren't you, Sasha?
> LONDON, February 12 (Itar-Tass) - Legendary King Arthur, the pride of West
> European knighthood, was, in fact, a Russian prince, who came to England
> with
> his warriors in keeping with an agreement he had concluded with Roman
> Emperor
> Marcus Aurelius. This sensational statement was made by Howard Reed, an
> eminent British historian.
Never heard of him. Eminent for WHAT?
> About six thousand
> Russian warriors came to the British Isles in 175 b.c.
Which is to say, 325 years before Marcus Aurelius. Hmm.
>
> While working in the archives of the St.Petersburg Hermitage Museum, Reed
> found numerous symbols from burial mounds on the territory of Russia,
which
> are identical to those on the banners under which the soldiers of
legendary
> King Arthur had fought.
I'll bet. Some are probably identical to those used by the Templars and the
Sanskrit-speaking conquerors of Harappa, not to mention the Olmecs ... I
have just one question: What was Atlantis doing while all this was going on?
Jean Coeur de Lapin
Holder of the Dion Fortune Chair in Creative History
University of Merlinford, Lyonesse-Under-Sea
Glub glub.
D. Spencer Hines
I LOVE IT.
And the Russians also invented the telephone, the airplane and Yorkshire
pudding.
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> "Alexander Polenov" <nob...@narod.ru> wrote in message
> news:007801c0980c$78d924a0$84e8dcc2@alex...
> > This news delievered to my inbox today. I think this will be interesting
> to
> > this group:
>
> Of interest, certainly.
> But you ARE pulling our collective leg, now, aren't you, Sasha?
You're right my farther and mother call me Sasha, my friends calls me Sanny
or Sania
>
> > LONDON, February 12 (Itar-Tass) - Legendary King Arthur, the pride of
West
> > European knighthood, was, in fact, a Russian prince, who came to England
> > with
> > his warriors in keeping with an agreement he had concluded with Roman
> > Emperor
> > Marcus Aurelius. This sensational statement was made by Howard Reed, an
> > eminent British historian.
>
> Never heard of him. Eminent for WHAT?
"eminent British historian" they wrote... I don't know his too... I've
only post email from my box...
> > About six thousand
> > Russian warriors came to the British Isles in 175 b.c.
>
> Which is to say, 325 years before Marcus Aurelius. Hmm.
Of course a.c. instead b.c. you should know it.
> > While working in the archives of the St.Petersburg Hermitage Museum,
Reed
> > found numerous symbols from burial mounds on the territory of Russia,
> which
> > are identical to those on the banners under which the soldiers of
> legendary
> > King Arthur had fought.
>
> I'll bet. Some are probably identical to those used by the Templars and
the
> Sanskrit-speaking conquerors of Harappa, not to mention the Olmecs ... I
> have just one question: What was Atlantis doing while all this was going
on?
Who are your Atlantis? I've heard they are bul-bul.... long-long time
before Arthur... What is Harappa and Olmecs?
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Alex
norenxaq
>
> >
> > I'll bet. Some are probably identical to those used by the Templars and
> the
> > Sanskrit-speaking conquerors of Harappa, not to mention the Olmecs ... I
> > have just one question: What was Atlantis doing while all this was going
> on?
>
> Who are your Atlantis? I've heard they are bul-bul.... long-long time
> before Arthur... What is Harappa and Olmecs?
>
> --
> Alex
Harappa was a city of the Indus Valley Civilization that collapsed around 1500
BC. The Olmecs were a culture around the Yucatan Peninsula that pre-date the
Mayans. I believe they began c.1000 BC, give or take a few centuries
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The historian's name is Howard Reid. By his opinion "Arthur came from one of the nomadic tribes attacking the declining Roman Empire from the east. These were not Huns, Vandals or Goths, but the less familiar Alans, tall, blond tourists arriving in Europe by horse." Howard Reid did not mention "russians" in any variants or Slavs. However his origin could be Scythians.
There is another book by Littleton S., Malcor L. "From Scythia to Camelot: Radical Reassessment of the Legends of King Arthur, the Knights of the Round Table and the Holy Grail" (2000) with a similar point.
taf
> The historian's name is Howard Reid. By his opinion "Arthur came from one
> of the nomadic tribes attacking the declining Roman Empire from the east.
> These were not Huns, Vandals or Goths, but the less familiar Alans, tall,
> blond tourists arriving in Europe by horse." Howard Reid did not mention
> "russians" in any variants or Slavs. However his origin could be Scythians.
> There is another book by Littleton S., Malcor L. "From Scythia to Camelot:
> Radical Reassessment of the Legends of King Arthur, the Knights of the Round
> Table and the Holy Grail" (2000) with a similar point.
taf