LUSIGNAN's Part 2/4

[Adrian Channing]

e) RORGON and Almodis
One e-mail (no sources quoted and it looks a little dubious)
gives:
RORGON Lusignan (c1125-1172) m Almodis _____ (c1140-) -> GUY
Lusignan (1170-) m 1200 Elisabeth Bessay (1180-) -> HUGHES
Lusignan (c1210-) m Alix Lusignan (1239-) -> GEOFFROY
Lusignan (c1260-) m/1293 Jeanne Lusignan (c1260-1323) ->
THIBAULT Lusignan (c1300-c1365) m1 Jeanne Thorigny (1330-);
m2 Catherine Vergier (c1320-) -> (by m1) JEAN I de Bessay
Lusignan (c1350-c1400) m1 Catherine Robertet (c1345-c1370);
m2 Jeanne Grassin (c1350-) -> (by m2) JEAN II de Bessay
Lusignan (1370-c1410) m Marie Aubin (1370-) -> JACQUES I de
Bessay Lusignan (c1395-1424) m 1416 Jeanne Pont de Vie
(c1395-) -> FRANCOIS I de Bessay Lusignan 1416-1467 m 1444
Francoise Jourdain (c1420-) -> JACQUES II de Bessay Lusignan
(1444-c1517) m1 Isabeau Lezay (c1455-); m2 1478 Francoise
Chanel (c1460-) -> (by m2) JACOB Lusignan (c1485-c1531) m1
1519 Madeleine Voussart; m2 1523 Gilette Buor (c1500-)
(c1495-c1523) -> (by m1) PAUL Lusignan (1519-) m c1530 Rene
Conte (c1505-1548) and -> (by m2) ____ Lusignan (c1525-) m
Almoise Belcier (c1530-) -> Adrienne Lusignan (c1555-) m
Galiot Martinde la Filolite (1550-)

f) HUGH VIIIa (-1169) de Lusignan m Orengarde. Originally he was
omitted from early pedigrees.

g) GEOFFREY (-aft 1202); older than GUY & probably older than
AMALRIC II; In 1189 at siege of Acre; On 11 May 1191 arrived
at Limassol, with his br king GUY; No doubt they were at
king RICHARD's wedding 12 May 1191. GEOFFREY is called Count
of LUSIGNAN by Steven Runciman (presumably as guardian of
HUGH IX?) and one of king RICHARD's leading vassals in Fr; In
Sept 1191 was at battle of Arsuf; In 1197 he was governor of
Jaffa; In 1197 (before GUY's death) he returned to Fr. In
1202 the Poitevins including ARTHUR of Brittany (with
Eleanor, both issue of K JOHN of England's br GEOFFREY),
GEOFFREY of Lusignan and his nephew HUGH IX were besieging
Queen Eleanor of Aquitaine at Mirabeau castle, nr Poitiers.
On 1 Aug K JOHN captured 200 of them in a lightning strike.
The Lusignans, luckier than the rest were ransomed.

Perhaps this GEOFFREY is the GEOFFROI de Lusignan mentioned
above under Mythology whose wife was Mevrant.

From David Crouch'e book "William Marshall"it is stated that
Patrick d'Everoux 1st earl of Salisbury was killed in 1168,
and William Marshall taken prisoner following an ambush by a
party of Poitevians led by the Lusignan brothers Geoffrey and
Guy. Geoffrey's brother Guy could not be more than 8 years
old (in 1180 he described as a foolish young boy), so
unlikely to be leading the Poitvians. Possibly `The Histoire
de Guillaume le Mareschal', which details this ambush has
been incorrectly translated and may mean "Geoffrey, brother
of Guy" not "Geoffrey and his brother Guy....", or perhaps
these brothers are from an earlier generation.

One e-mail gives him and his issue as follows:

GEOFFROI (c1155-c1224) 1st de Lusignan m1 c1185 Eustachie
Chabot (c1160-c1201) -> GEOFFROY la Grande Dent de Lusignan
c1186-1246 m1 Clemence Chatellerault (c1203-1239); m2 c1239
Aude ____ (c1205-) -> (by m2) Alix Lusignan (1239-) m Hugues
Lusignan (c1210-)

GEOFFROI (c1155-c1224) m2 c1202 Humberge Limoges (1159-) ->
Guillaume Lusignan (1202-c1230) m c1226 Marquise Mauleon
(c1205-) -> (a) Valence Lusignan (1226-) m/1247 Hughes 1st
a'bh of Parthenay (c1225-1271) and b) Elise Lusignan
(c1229-c1260) m c1245 Barthelemyde la Haye-Passaavant
(c1220-1272))

O'Hart's "Irish Pedigrees" shows Irish descendants of this
GEOFFREY. See Appendix

h) HUGH IX (-1219) de Lusignan; Ct de la MARCHE; The Brown; One
ref states he was Ct Poitou; engaged to Isabella Taillefeur
of Angouleme, but in 1200, when she was in the care of HUGH'S
uncle, Ct of EU, she was taken by his feudal lord K JOHN of
Eng who wed her at Bordeaux in Aug (-> 5 issue); HUGH formed
an alliance with PHILIP II K of Fr against K JOHN resulting
in JOHN's loss of his continental possessions. HUGH may have
m Agetha de Preuilly, but most references show he m Matilda d
of WULGRIM III (or WILLIAM IV) (-1197) ct ANGOULEME by his m2
to Emma de Limoges & half-sister (by his m1 to Margaret de
Turenne) of AYMER/AIMAR/AUDEMOR de Valance Ct ANGOULEME
(c1160-1202) who m Alice (c1160-1218) de Courtenay dau of
PIERRE I (-1183) de France (aka Pierre Capet) by Elizabeth
(1127-1205) de Courtenay who were the parents of Isabella
Taillefeur, HUGH X's wife. It has been claimed that Matilda
was HUGH IX's 2nd wife and that his issue were by a previous
wife, perhaps Agetha?

See Appendix for a tree of Counts de la Marche and a tree of
Counts of Toulouse.

i) RAOUL/RALPH I (-1 May 1219 Melle bur Fontblanche, Exoudin
which abbey he had founded); Seigneur de Melle and Chize in
Poitou, Ct of Eu (in right of his wife); granted (but taken
back in 1200/1 following K John's quarrel with the
Lusignan's) Driencourt (now Neufchatel-en-Bray) and in 1199/0
Castle of Civray, Poitou; In 1214 K JOHN attacked the
Lusignans in Poitou but JOHN made terms and promised Raoul
the rape of Hastings (formally held by JOHN d'EU (-1207); In
1225 RAOUL's wdw surrended the castle to the K) and Tickhill
with the castle (but he did not gain possession until at
least 1217 and his wdw surrended it in 1243/4) in recompense
for loss of lands in Normandy seized by K of Fr; m
Alice/Aaliz (-May 1246 La Mothe-Saint-Heray, Poitou, bur
?Fontblanche, Will 7 Mar 1245/6) Cts Eu, sister and h of
RAOUL d'Eu (who d. young), and dau. of HENRY, Count of EU and
Lord of Hastings

One e-mail shows him as uncle of Hugh IX, and that he m1
Marguerite Courtenay (-1270) leaving by her Mahaut Lusignan
who m GUILLAUME I de CHAUVIGNY (-1233)

j) RAOUL II (-Sep 1246 bur Foucarmont); s&h; de Lusignan; COUNT
d'EU and GUINES; m1 1222 Jehanna/Jeanne (-1224 sp, bur
Foucarmont) d of EUDE III Dk of BURGUNDAY by his m2 Aaliz d
of HUGUE Seigneur de Vergy; m2 Yolande/Yolent (-1238/9 bur
Foucarmont) 6d of ROBERT II of Dreux and Braisne by his m2
Yolande/Yolent 1d of RAOUL de MARLE; Sire de COUCY, Laonnois;
m3 Philippe (-Apr 1278 bur Gravendal) 3d&ch of SIMON de
DAMMARTIN Ct of PONTHIEU and MONTREUIL; She m2 RAOUL II (-Feb
1249/0 sp, bat of El Mansura), Sire de Coucy and m3 c1252
OTTO Ct of GUELDRES and ZUTPHEN (-Jan 1270/1, bur Gravendal)

k) Marie (-1 Oct 1260 Melle, Poitou, bur Foucarmont, MI, Will
dated Aug 1260); d&h (by m2) de Lusignan, Countess of Eu,
Dame de Civray; m bfr 1250 ALPHONSE de Brienne (-25 Aug 1270
Carthage, Tunis, bur May 1271 Abbey of St-Denis, MI) COUNT
d'EU s&h of JEAN de BRIENNE (-1237) K of Jm, EMPEROR of
CONSTANTINOPLE by his m2 Berenguela/Berengere d of ALFONSO
IX, K of LEON and GALICIA

l) Maud d of Ralph (-14 Aug 1241) d'Eu de Lusignan m HUMPHREY
BOHUN (1198 or 1208-1275) 2Er HEREFORD

m) HUGH X (1183 Lusignan-1249 Surrey); le BRUN; Ct LA MARCHE; Ld
LUSIGNAN; One ref has him Ct POITOU; In 1242 HUGH and his
wife were defeated by the Fr, but LOUIS forgave them and
restored their lands. HUGH m cApr 1220 in Eng. Isabella
Taillefeur (c1188 or c1185 in Angouleme Fr-31 May 1246 at
Fontevraud convent, Fr) d of AYMER Ct ANGOULEME and widow of
K JOHN (-1216) and mother of HENRY III and 1st cousin of HUGH
IX's wife Matilda; In 1244 she may have attempted to have
LOUIS assassinated She fled to Fontevraud convent where she
took the veil. Hy III granted five of their children were
granted large estates in Eng. By 1258 the jealous barons
forced them into exile, but were subsequently allowed to
return.

n) Agathe (c1200-) m c1220 GEOFFROI V (c1200-c1250); de Pons

o) HUGH XI (1221-1249 or 1250 Egypt); de Lusignan; Ct de la
MARCHE; Ct ANGOULEME; Ct PONTHIEU; m Yolande d of PIERRE
MAUCLERK Dk of BRITTANY

p) HUGH XII (1238-1282 or -1270 St. Louis, 2nd Crusade)
Count de la MARCHE; m Jeanne (1233-1274) dau of RAOUL
(?1210-1256) de FOUGERS 3Bn de FOUGERS by Isabella (1212-)
dau of AMAURY (?1180-12 May 1226 at Sea), Seigneur de Craon.

q) 1)Yolande (1254-1314) m1 c1269 ROBERT II (c1230-c1282) de
Matha; m2 HELIE RUDEL III (c1251-1308) de Pons
2)Jeanne (1254 - bfr 18 Apr 1323 bur Abbey de Valence) m1
BERNARD-AIZ ALBRET (1255-1280); m2 PIERS (-bfr 8 June 1292)
Lord of WATERSTONE s of GEOFFREY de JOINVILLE (aft 1225-21
Oct 1314 Trim, Ir), Seigneur of Vaucouleurs; Lord of MEATH,
Ir. Their dau Joan de Joinville (2 Feb 1285/6-19 Oct 1356) m
ROGER de MORTIMER (-29 Nov 1330, hanged) Er of MARCH whose
son EDMUND m Elizabeth (-8 Jun 1356) d of BARTHOLOMEW de
BADLESMERE (-14 Apr 1322, hanged Canterbury) by Margaret
(-1333) dau of THOMAS de CLARE Lord of THOMOND, Ir. Jeanne
?m3 1293 GEOFFROY LUSIGNAN (see under e) RORGON and Almodis);
m4 ARNAUD I (1270-1316) le Vieux de Montagu
But some of these details do not agree with an e-mail quoting
Wies "Ancestrial Roots", 7th Ed giving Sir PIERS (1256-1322)
de GENEVILLE (aka Lord of Trim) m Jeanne de Lusignan (2 Feb
1285/6-19 Oct 1356)
3)HUGH XIII (-aft 1310) m Beatrice Bourgogne (-aft 1329)

r) 1)Isabelle (c1240-1297); de Lusignan m 1258 MAURICE II
(1210-1297) de Belleville-Montaigu
2)Alice (-1290); de Lusignan; Some refs state Alice was d of
HUGH XI's br GUY; m 1252/3 (div 1271) GILBERT (1243-1295) de
CLARE Er GLOUCESTER & HEREFORD, Issue: (Joan and Isabella);
He m2 1290 Joan d'Acre (-1307) d of EDWARD I, Issue: (GILBERT
Er GLOUCESTER and others)

s) GUY of VALENCE; Lord COGNAC; He was older than his br WILLIAM.
GUY, WILLIAM, AYMER and Alice came to Eng in 1247 partly due
to being oppression by K of Fr. In 1258 expelled from Eng,
by the jealous barons but allowed to returned after Mar 1261.
In 1264 GUY was at battle of Lewes

t) WILLIAM de Valence (aft 1225 ?Abbey of Valence, nr Lusignan
-bfr 18 May 1296 in Eng on his return from Fr, bur
Westminster Abbey, Altar Tomb) Often styled Earl PEMBROKE but
never so created; Sir (knt 13 Oct 1248); 4s; Ld VALENCE; Ld
MONTIGNAC; Ld BELLAC; Ld RANCON and Ld CHAMPAGNE and by his
wife Ld PEMBROKE and Ld WEXFORD; In 1247 came to Eng; HENRY
III granted him many properties including Goodrich; Pembroke;
Hereford and Hertford Castles and app him to many important
posts; On 2 Oct 1249 app joint amb. to Fr; In 1249/50 to Holy
Lands; In Oct 1253-Sep 1254 with king in Aquitaine; In Sept
1255 with king in the North; In 1257 argued with SIMON de
MONTFORT and in 1258 he, his 2 brs and b-in-law Er SURREY
fell out with barons and took refuse in Wolvesey Castle,
Winchester, then capture but allowed to leave for Poitou;
About Easter 1261 returned and restored; In 1264 supported
King at siege of Northampton then battle of Lewes (14 May
1264) after which defeat he fled to Fr; In June 1265 at Siege
of Gloucester, attack on Kenilworth and at battle of Eversham
(1 Aug 1265); In 1265 granted Haverford Castle, which he had
captured from HUMPHREY de BOHUN, for the term of the minority
of the de BOHUN heir; In 1266, with Er SURREY attacked Bury
St. Edmunds; In Aug 1270 left for Palestine with pr Ed, by
Jan 1272/3 back in London; 1273-79 often in Aquitaine; In
1277-1294 served against Welsh; granted Abergaveny during
minority of his s-in-law JOHN de HASTINGS; In 1295 sum to
parl. as Er PEMBROKE but title never formally invested; m 13
Aug 1247 Joan (1222 Wales-bfr 20 Sep 1307) d&ch of WARINE de
MONCHENSY (-c1254) Lord of SWANSCOMBE, Kent by his m1 (to
whom Joan was heir following death of her br in June 1247)
Joan 5d&ch of WILLIAM MARSHAL 4Er PEMBROKE; In 1255 the
guardianship of Joan's half-br WILLIAM de MONCHENCY, (who had
an only d Dionysia) was given to WILLIAM This William d 1288
on attack on REES ap GRIFFITH at Drosselan Castle. Other
refs show WILLIAM as full br of Joan Monchensey

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