Le Poer/Poor/Poore/Power, Ireland, England
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There is a tradition that we are related to Richard Poore, the Bishop of
Salisbury who built the Salisbury Cathedral under King Henry III. I have no
idea if there is truth in this, although my gateway ancestor, John Poore,
was originally from Salisbury.
My question is, how are the various Poor's in medieval England related?
For example, I know that there is a book called Roger Of Salisbury. He was
the chief justiciar under King Henry I, and then King Stephen, who tried to
have him executed. Not owning this book, someone sent me information from
it, telling that two of his sons became bishops, and the third, who did not
get a bishopric at first, became known as "the Poor", or le Poer. This may
have not been how the name started, because when Strongbow lead his forces
into Ireland, there a few "De Pohers" who went with him. They established
themselves in Waterford, eventually becoming the "Powers." The baronies of
Kells and De La Poer where held by them, and I believe a barony is still in
a Power's posession.
At the same time of Roger of Salisbury, there was a Roger le Poer. He
was the chancellor under King Henry and Stephen. They were both mentioned
in the book "The Conquering Family," by Thomas B. Costain, as separate
individuals. Since Roger of Salisbury was older, could le Poer have been
one of his sons? They are listed separately in the index. Then of course,
there was Richard Poore, the Bishop of Salisbury.
Quoted from The Conquering Family, about Henry I's neglect of duties in
later life, "His chief minister, Roger of Salisbury, began to take it upon
himself to govern and issue writs 'on the King's part and my own.' "
Quote, about Henry I's aging mind, "His daughter remembered how this had
hurt her and her devout mother and what talkthere had been when the King had
made a certain Roger le Poer his own royal chaplain because that clever
rogue knew enough to keep his exhortations short. Could that aging and
corpulent ecclesiastic who was now jumbling the Latin phrases and wheezing
in his haste was the selfsame Roger? She was horrified to learn that it was
and that he now filled as well the high post of chancellor."
Quoted, about Henry II, "The first thing the young King did was to summon
back the ministers of his grandfather, Henry I, who had been so recklessly
discarded by the simple Stephen. Roger of Salisbury was dead, but his
nephew Nigel, now Bishop of Ely, was appointed to the post of Treasurer,
which he had formerly filled."
I hope someone may be able to help me. Thanks!
Travis
Robert O'Connor
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WALTER le POURE, of Cherlton, Burton & Garford, Oxon., M Matilda. Living
c. 1175. He had issue: MGH VI, p 363
HUGH le POURE, of Cherlton, Burton & Garford, Oxon., M Katherine (Living
1225 & 1258. M 2nd Robert de Chilswell). Died by 1219. He had issue: MGH
VI, p 363
1.JOHN, of whom we presently.
2.Roger, Living 1225.
JOHN le POURE, of Cherlton, Burton & Garford, Oxon., Born c. 1210. In
1224/5 he granted "a hide at Garford to his brother Roger, & John was still
a tenant in 1242". He brought "novel disseisen against against Roger le
Poure and Katherine, his mother, in respect of one hide of land in
gareford, came & withdrew because she is his mother & Roger is his
brother", 1225. In 1255 "Michael de Huchenden & wife Emme, Robert de
Chaneleswell & wife Katherine gave the King a mark for an assize of novel
disseisen against John le Poure & Richard his son for a tenement in
Garford." He had issue: MGH VI, pp 363, 372, 373 & 374
RICHARD le POURE, of Cherlton, Burton, Wendlebury & Garford, Oxon., He is
mentioned in a fine concerning lands at Garford, 1259. He held the manor
of Cherlton, 1278. In 1279 he held in Cherlton 4 virgates of land & 2
cottages of the Prior of Ware. He was enfeoffed with the manor of
Wendlebury by Nicholas de Sifrewast & his wife Anne before 1279. Died by
1283. He had issue: MGH VI, pp 363 & 371 VCH Oxon VI, p 340
WILLIAM le POURE, of Cherlton, Burton, Wendlebury & Garford, Oxon., M by
1306 Margery (Living 1316/7 & 1332/3), perhaps d. of Richard Chasteleyn.
He held the manor of Wendlebury "of Nicholas Syfrewast who holds of Aymer
de St. Amand, who holds of the King", 1284/5. Died 1316/7. He had issue:
MGH VI, p 363 VCH Oxon VI, p 340
RICHARD le POURE, of Cherlton, Burton, Wendlebury & Garford, Oxon., He was
taxed the Lay Subsidy, 1327. Died before 1338. He had issue: MGH VI, pp
364 & 372
WILLIAM le POURE, of Cherlton, Burton, Wendlebury & Garford, Oxon., He was
taxed the Lay Subsidy, 1327. Living 1338. He had issue: MGH VI, pp 364 &
372
Sir THOMAS POURE, Kt., J.P., of Cherlton, Burton, Wendlebury & Garford,
Oxon., M Joan (Died before Spring 1406). He received a grant of quitclaim
of lands in Burton & Clanfield from Sir John Wroth, Kt., 24 Nov. 1385.
Commissioner for Oyer & Terminer, 4 July 1387. He witnessed a charter, 20
Oct. 1387. J.P for Oxon., 20 Feb. 1394 & 28 June 1390. Coroner of Oxon.,
before 29 Nov. 1398. Died by 29 Nov. 1398. He had issue: MGH VI, pp 364 &
371 VCH Oxon VI, p 340
1.Thomas, of Cherlton, Burton, Wendlebury & Garford, Oxon., Eleanor de St.
Amand claimed his wardship, 1406. Called "son & heir of Thomas Poure,
Knt." in his Inq. P.M. Died 18 Sept. 1407 whilst still a minor. Inq P.M.,
27 Sept. 1407. s.p. MGH VI, p 364 Inq PM
2.AGNES, of whom we presently.
AGNES POURE, Born c. 1379. She was "aged 28 years & more" at her
brother's Inq. P.M., 27 Sept. 1407. M 1st WILLIAM WYNSLOW, of Ramsbury,
Wilts. (Died before 4 March 1414). M 2nd c. 1415 Robert Andrews, M.P., of
Castle Eaton, Wilts. (Died 13 April 1437). Died c. 1442. She had issue:
(See WYNSLOW) HSP Oxf, p 177 MGH VI, p 364 HoP 1386-1421, II, pp 35 & 38
VCH Oxon VI, p 340
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Robert O'Connor
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Christchurch
New Zealand