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Colin Piper
Aug 11, 2023, 11:32:06 AM8/11/23
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D’Albini, De Aubigne, D’Aubigny, Daubeney…..….Daubney?
I was trying to help my brother in law, when I came across a Daubney family from Scotter in Lincolnshire.
This name seems very close to the historical families as above where there is lots of variety in the spelling of the surname. Also Scotter, a large village in North Lincolnshire, is not far from South Ingleby where the Daubeney family had the manor (among many other manors).
So the question I am sharing with you is whether this Daubney family is a minor offshoot of the Daubeneys.
Firstly the evidence.
Generation 1
Richard Daubney (1505-) = Isabel
Generation 2
William Daubney (1535-1613) =Agnes
Siblings; Elizabeth and Richard Daubney
Generation 3
John Daubney (1570-1611) = Margaret Beeche (1571-1609)
John was rector of Scotter
Siblings; Marmaduke, William, Nicholas, Robert
Generation 4
Theodore Daubney (1606-1657) =Dorothy Batte
Siblings; Mabel, Thomas, John, Richard
Generation 5
Cornelius Daubney (1630-)
Both Theodore and Cornelius emigrated to New Kent County in Virginia, by about 1644, and I think that there is US interest in the origins of this family. I have seen one comment that this family introduced the Daubney/Dabney surname into America.
Several web sites, like Ancestry claim a direct descent from Giles Daubeney (1451-1507) who married Elizabeth Arundel (1457-1510) and/or his son Henry Daubeney (1493-1548) who married Katherine Howard (1495-1554). Even a quick look at their family tree shows this to be very wrong; there is no room here for a Richard Daubney.
But there may be a link to an earlier generation of the Daubeneys and the link may not be a legitimate one.
After lots of web searching and reading the Daubeney section of CP provides no clues of younger sons and/or references to Scotter. Unless younger sons marry well, or achieve fame, they seem to quietly drop out of sight within a couple of generations.
My brother in law’s descent is via Marmaduke Daubney and I remember that this was a common name among the Thweng family who had married into the Daubeneys in an earlier generation ……..but this is too distant. Then I found that the manor of Scotter was held by the church but then rented out to the Tyrwhitt family, where one Marmaduke Tyrwhitt was lord of the manor and about 20 years older than Marmaduke Daubney, so a simple case of flattery via naming?
This tells me that these Daubneys were not lords of the manor.
Has anyone done research on Richard Daubney’s origins?
Thank you
I was trying to help my brother in law, when I came across a Daubney family from Scotter in Lincolnshire.
This name seems very close to the historical families as above where there is lots of variety in the spelling of the surname. Also Scotter, a large village in North Lincolnshire, is not far from South Ingleby where the Daubeney family had the manor (among many other manors).
So the question I am sharing with you is whether this Daubney family is a minor offshoot of the Daubeneys.
Firstly the evidence.
Generation 1
Richard Daubney (1505-) = Isabel
Generation 2
William Daubney (1535-1613) =Agnes
Siblings; Elizabeth and Richard Daubney
Generation 3
John Daubney (1570-1611) = Margaret Beeche (1571-1609)
John was rector of Scotter
Siblings; Marmaduke, William, Nicholas, Robert
Generation 4
Theodore Daubney (1606-1657) =Dorothy Batte
Siblings; Mabel, Thomas, John, Richard
Generation 5
Cornelius Daubney (1630-)
Both Theodore and Cornelius emigrated to New Kent County in Virginia, by about 1644, and I think that there is US interest in the origins of this family. I have seen one comment that this family introduced the Daubney/Dabney surname into America.
Several web sites, like Ancestry claim a direct descent from Giles Daubeney (1451-1507) who married Elizabeth Arundel (1457-1510) and/or his son Henry Daubeney (1493-1548) who married Katherine Howard (1495-1554). Even a quick look at their family tree shows this to be very wrong; there is no room here for a Richard Daubney.
But there may be a link to an earlier generation of the Daubeneys and the link may not be a legitimate one.
After lots of web searching and reading the Daubeney section of CP provides no clues of younger sons and/or references to Scotter. Unless younger sons marry well, or achieve fame, they seem to quietly drop out of sight within a couple of generations.
My brother in law’s descent is via Marmaduke Daubney and I remember that this was a common name among the Thweng family who had married into the Daubeneys in an earlier generation ……..but this is too distant. Then I found that the manor of Scotter was held by the church but then rented out to the Tyrwhitt family, where one Marmaduke Tyrwhitt was lord of the manor and about 20 years older than Marmaduke Daubney, so a simple case of flattery via naming?
This tells me that these Daubneys were not lords of the manor.
Has anyone done research on Richard Daubney’s origins?
Thank you
Darrell E. Larocque
Aug 12, 2023, 12:01:30 PM8/12/23
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I'm going to be following this because of my ties to the family through Giles Daubeney (b ca. 1335 South Ingleby, Lincolnshire - d 24 Jun 1386 Barrington, Somerset), son of Ralph d'Aubeney KB and Alice de Montacute, who married Alianore Wilington on 5 Jan 1359.
I would suggest that a minor variation of the spelling of the name sans 'e' for record searches shouldn't be the only name used. It is very possible that they still used Daubeney and I'd use as many different variations as possible when conducting searches.
Darrell
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