Sir William Brenchley (d1406)
Ye Old One
Common Pleas, who died in 1406. I have him married to Johanne (or
Joan) Batisford who died in 1453.
Does anyone have any more information on this pair?
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Bob.
WJho...@aol.com
writes:
I don't have him died in 1406, but rather "bef 26 May 1406"
Joan Brenchley left a will
Louise Staley in a post here 2/17/06 mentions that " Joan Brenchley's will
mentions Elizabeth Lewkenor, daughter of Sir William Echynham and her son Thomas
Hoo, again suggesting the families were closely tied."
However "...* the IPM of Margery Peplesham in 1406 lists her heir as her
grandson Roger Fiennes, son of her daughter Elizabeth"
Will Johnson
Louise Staley
>> In a message dated 5/29/06, use...@mcsuk.net wrote:
>>
>> I'm looking for information on Sir William Brenchley, Justice of the
>> Common Pleas, who died in 1406. I have him married to Johanne (or
>> Joan) Batisford who died in 1453.
>>
>> Does anyone have any more information on this pair?
>
> I don't have him died in 1406, but rather "bef 26 May 1406"
> Joan Brenchley left a will
>
> Louise Staley in a post here 2/17/06 mentions that " Joan Brenchley's will
> mentions Elizabeth Lewkenor, daughter of Sir William Echynham and her son Thomas
> Hoo, again suggesting the families were closely tied."
>
> However "...* the IPM of Margery Peplesham in 1406 lists her heir as her
> grandson Roger Fiennes, son of her daughter Elizabeth"
>
> Will Johnson
>
Batisford was not the daughter of Margery Peplesham, but of a later,
unknown, wife of William Batisford. However, I am open to other
interpretations. Apart from the fact Joan was not an heir of Margery,
there is also the problem of her death in 1453 compared to her supposed
sisters Elizabeth (d. 1405) and (maybe) Alice (on my construction, s.p.
bef. 1406). I also note that Joan Brenchley's will does not provide any
relationships.
Louise
Ye Old One
I have the text of Sir William's will as follows:
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Medieval Kent Wills at Lambeth - Book 23 Page 333a
William BRENCHESLE, Will 19 June 1406
A translation into English from Latin / French transcriptions made by
Leland L. Duncan
WILLIAM BRENCHESLE, Knight, Wednesday the Vigil of the Lord’ Ascension
1406. To be buried in the church of the Prior of Christ Church
Canterbury. I leave to the Prior and Convent of the same a competent
sum to pray for my soul as my executors may see fit. Residue to
Johanne my wife, whom with Master John Graue, clerk, William Makenade
and Wm. Cheyne of Sussex I make executors.
Proved 26 May 1406 and administration to William Cheyne Esquire
(scutifer) executor with powers reserved for others. (231a Arundel I).
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That being taken from:
http://www.kentarchaeology.org.uk/Research/Libr/Wills/Lbth/Bk23/page%20333a.htm
Now I must say I've often wondered why the will is shown as 19th June
1406 while the proving is given as 26th May 1406 - anyone any idea on
that?
Anyway, his wife's will reads as follows:
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Medieval Kent Wills at Lambeth - Book 21 Page 25
Lady Johanna BRENCHESLE, Will 6th August 1453
A translation into English from Latin / French transcriptions made by
Leland L. Duncan
Lady JOHANNA BRENCHISLE late wife of William Brenchesle Knight. Monday
6 August 1453. To be buried in the Cathedral church of the Holy
Trinity Canterbury under the marble stone where the body of the said
William late my husband lieth buried. To the high altar of the church
of Byxle [???] 13s. 4. To the reparation of the body or Nave of the
said church 13s. 4d. To the shrine (feretrosive capse) of St. Richard
of Chichester 13s. 4d. To Denyse Fynche 100 marcs. To Edward Fynche
£20. To Richard Lolle if he is in my service when I die 6s. 8d. To
James Thomas 10 marcs, Edmund Thomas 10 marcs. To each of my poor
tenents 4d. Residue to my executors to dispose for my soul. I
constitute Lady Elizabeth Lewkenore, Thomas Hoo Esquire and Alexr.
Altham clerk, executors.
Proved 7 November 1453. (310b Kempe).
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Taken from:
http://www.kentarchaeology.org.uk/Research/Libr/Wills/Lbth/Bk21/page%20025.htm
I've also been quoted this by someone on another group:
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"If we can believe Edward Hasted's History of Kent (1793), the manor
of Benenden was passed on via a female heiress, Joane de Benenden (who
died without issue in 1453), she having married Sir William Brenchley,
chief justice of common pleas (d. 1446). It thereafter passed to
Margaret, the daughter and coheir of John Brenchley, esq., by Margaret
Golding, his wife (she being the daughter and heiress of Richard
Golding). Margaret Brenchley married William Moore (during the 21st
year of King Henry VI) and the manor thereafter continued for some
time in the Moore/More/de la More family."
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Notice that here William's death is given as 1446 not 1406.
Can anyone make sense of all this and maybe confirm some of the dates?
--
Bob.
WJho...@aol.com
writes:
<< "If we can believe Edward Hasted's History of Kent (1793), the manor of
Benenden was passed on via a female heiress, Joane de Benenden (who died
without issue in 1453), she having married Sir William Brenchley, chief justice of
common pleas (d. 1446). It thereafter passed to Margaret, the daughter and
coheir of John Brenchley, esq., by Margaret Golding, his wife (she being the
daughter and heiress of Richard Golding). Margaret Brenchley married
William Moore (during the 21st year of King Henry VI) and the manor thereafter
continued for some time in the Moore/More/de la More family." >>
THIS throws the whole thing topsy-turvy in my view.
Now the possibility arises that Joan with the 1453 is *not* the widow of the
elder William Brenchley but the widow of some younger one, perhaps son of the
older one.
That would allow for the the rather unappetizing idea that she lived a widow
for 47 years while she was still at the most 39 years old and possibly as
young as 30.
So the line needs to be reviewed again with an eye on the primary
documentation to see if there might not be two William de Brenchley's who possibly both
married Joan's.
Will Johnson