DNB Corrections - Hotchkiss
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"Hotchkis, Thomas (c.1611-1693), Church of England clergyman, was
probably born in Whitchurch, Shropshire, about 1611, the son of John
Hotchkis (1574/5-1666). His mother, whose name is unknown, was still
alive in 1655...."
A collection of wills on microfilm with the LDS shows his mother to
have been Margaret Nevett, burried 1 Jan 1656, in Whitchurch,
Shropshire. These same wills show his father to be the John Hotchkiss
mentioned, except that he appears to have been burried on about 10 Jan
1665. I never have found a clear reference to John's birth, but have
assumed it to be about 1580, so 1574 seems within the realm of
possibility.
Of the remaining portion of the story on Thomas, his wife Grace and his
son-in-law Thomas Hippesley are also mentioned in the wills I
mentioned. I have found mention of three children John, Elizabeth, and
Jane. Joshua is a new one for me, as is the assertion that there were
a total of eight children. Has anyone seen the sources listed to be
able to fill me in on the remaining children. It would be nice if
there were some real record of their ages as well.
The article also fills us in on Thomas's theological writings, and
beliefs, which I found very interesting.
I guess I should mention that many of the Hotchkisses in the US will
find Thomas interesting, because he is thought to be one of the
brothers, of the Samuel Hotchkiss, who came to Connecticut in the early
1600's, and from whom so many Hotchkisses in this country claim
descent. I'm not one of them as my line stayed in England at that point
and finally went to Scotland about 150 or so years later before making
their way to the US.
There is also an unproven linage for John (Thomas and Samuel's father),
which I have already learned more about from this group, but would love
to hear further discussion of. That linage is:
William Hotchkiss of Bedfordshire (abt 1500) married a Miss Mainwarning
and had at least one son, Allan Hotchkiss, who married Mary Cotton and
had 3 sons - John, Richard, and George, with the John being the one I
just mentioned.
I guess I should mention that many of the Hotchkisses in the US will
find Thomas interesting, because he is thought to be one of the
brothers, of the Samuel Hotchkiss, who came to Connecticute in the
early 1600's, and from whom so many Hotchkisses in this country claim
descent. I'm not one of them as my line stayed in England at that point
and finally went to Scotland about 150 or so years later before making
their way to the US.
There is also an unproven linage for John (Thomas and Samuel's father),
which I have already learned more about from this group, but would love
to hear further discussion of here. That linage is:
William Hotchkiss of Bedfordshire (abt 1500) married a Miss Mainwarning
and had at least one son, Allan Hotchkiss, who married Mary Cotton and
had 3 sons - John, Richard, and George, with the John being the one I
just mentioned.
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Duncan (1826) the husband of Jane Hart Hotchkiss (1839):
"Duncan, James Matthews (1826-1890), obstetric physician, was born and
baptized in Aberdeen on 29 April 1826, the fifth child of William
Duncan, a merchant and later shipowner, and his wife, Isabella
Matthews...,"
",...On 21 August 1860 Duncan married Jane Hart Hotchkis (b. 1838/9) of
Castlemilk, Dumfriesshire; they had thirteen children. In 1890 he began
to suffer from angina and did not finish his usual course of lectures.
He died at the Hotel Minerva, Baden-Baden, Germany, on 1 September
1890, of a heart attack, and was buried at Islington cemetery, London,
on 8 September 1890. Queen Victoria informed his widow that 'the
country and Europe at large have lost one of their most distinguished
men' (Munk, 287). "
While this is largely true, Jane Hart Hotchkis was born 24 Apr 1839, in
St. Mungo parish, Alexandria, Dunbartonshire, as shown in the Statutory
records of Scotland. I would like to hear more about the "Castlemilk,
Dumfriesshire" reference. I'm also not sure what the "9" is in the
birthdate given as (b. 1838/9). Again, while 13 children is possible,
I've only found references to 10, the last being born when Jane was
only 36 years old. I'm not sure how old she lived to be. I'd like to
see the remaining 3 references though.
All that aside, I found the remainder of he article on James Duncan's
destinguished medical career fascinating.
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of time to have three more children. By the way, Jane was the daughter
of James Hotchkis Esquire Writer to the Signet of Ladyfield House near
Dumfries, eldest son was Richard J Hotchkiss from Chappel House in the
County of Renfrew, and of Margaret Hart, daughter of Major Thomas Hart,
and Anne Montgomery, said to be descended from a Lord Chief Baron of
Scotland.
Actually, according to their wills, this Hotchkiss line had proof at
that time to be descended directly from a certain mayor of London in
the 1300's, also by the name Hotchkiss. I have them back to around
1580. Does anyone have any information on that mayor?
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on Thomas Hotchkiss. It looked right on my screen before I posted it.
steven perkins
I have posted several times on this Hotchkiss family. John I Coddington
researched this line since he is a descendant of Samuel. He felt there is a
missing generation between Allan Hotchkiss and John, father of Samuel. The
time seems stretched if John was a son of Allan, but it is a possibility.
See the COddington papers at the New England Historic Genealogical Society
MSS collection.
I have gone down the line of Margaret Nevett from the Visitations and
Ormerod's Chester vols. See the previous posts found under Constantine and
Hotchkiss and Cotton subject headings. This leads to the Constantine family
and may lead to a royal descent through them. The problem beig at least
three contemporary William Constantines alive in the mid-1400s, and no real
evidence to choose between them as to the one with the royal line.
Regards,
Steven C. Perkins
On 25 Sep 2005 03:32:21 -0700, rexjho...@comcast.net <
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> I'm sorry for the repeat of the last 3 paragraphs in the above posting
> on Thomas Hotchkiss. It looked right on my screen before I posted it.
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Rex Hotchkiss
and emails on the subject of potential ancestral lines for John
Hotchkiss, the father of Samuel. In fact you probably have the best
write-up on the subject, on your website, and of course you are the
source of the potential line that I mention, although I have noticed a
few other varieties. I also read with interest John Coddington's posts
on the subject. I think that in order to go any further it may be
necessary to thoroughly review all of the English parish records on
Hotchkiss from the time, so that we may see the whole pattern. I've got
several parishes, but I think I need to have the rest listed as well.
Of course the parish records may not be enough, since they are so
inadequate prior to the 1600's. As you know I am interested in much
more of the Hotchkiss ancestry of this time than just Samuel's linage.
I guess this may entail a trip or two, at least to Salt Lake, if not to
England. It's too bad the English haven't managed to create an online
database of their parish records like the Scottish have.
I am also hoping that somebody has documentation on that Hotchkiss
mayor of London that I mentioned.
Of course the real reason I wrote was to point out the two Hotchkiss
articles I mentioned in the DNB, and comment on their accuracies and
inaccuracies. They actually weren't bad, although they were lacking in
the few points that I mentioned.
One of these articles happens to be on a brother of Samuel.
The other is on a member of a different line which finds its way back
from Scotland to at least William Hotchkiss of Hokeswode (or
Hawkeswood) and of Sidbury (in Shropshire) in around 1580, but claims
ancestry all the way back to that 14th century mayor of London, as do,
I think, several other familes I recall reading about.
Then there is my own line, which, although it is not as easy to follow
in its move from England to Scotland, also goes back to Shropshire
until it hits that same wall of lack of information in the 1500's,
before the Church of England was ordered to keep full records in all
the parishes.
With these three and one other, we have found the ancestry of all of
the Hotchkiss family in Scotland and most of that in America. Now
Hotchkiss was a fairly common name in England, and especially
Shropshire, in the 1500's. If all of those in Scotland and the US are
descended from just 4 of them, what became of the rest? It would seem
that many are still in England, where they have been working hard at
coming up with new variations on the name, purhaps because there are so
many of them there with that same name. Yet I have found very little
research on any of those lines. I keep hoping to find that there is
somebody out there who has researched them.