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John P. Ravilious

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Dear Alex, Will, Douglas,

An interesting charter was 'discovered' today in a group of
charters published in the Miscellany of the Scottish History Society
(1933). These charters were originally transcribed by Sir William
Fraser. This particular charter, and the related notes, help
significantly in solidifying the reconstructed pedigree of the
Caldecotes (or de Caldcotis) family, and their relationship to the
Tweedies of Drumelzier and the Douglas of Dalkeith.

The particular document of interest was a charter of John Stewart
of Dalswinton granting the lands of Ormystoun to William Maitland,
which was confirmed by King David II at Edinburgh, 9 Dec 1353 [1].
The charter of John Stewart was witnessed by, among others,

' Rogero de Kirkpatrik tunc vicecomite de Dunfres, Thoma
de Kirkpatrik, Jacobo de Thuedi, Johanne de Cauldcotys,..' [2]

In addition to the witness list, Angus provided additional
biographical details concerning the witnesses. Concerning John de
Caldcotis, Angus wrote the following:

' Johanne de Cauldcotys. In 1335-6 part of the barony of
Sempring was in the hands of Edward III. by reason of the
minority of the heir of Robert de Caldecotes. The heir
was probably the above witness, who c. 1388 granted a
charter to his son, William and Christian, daughter of
Walter de Twedy, his spouse, of the lands of Sympryne.
Caldcoat is the old name for Macbiehill, in the parish
of Newlands. (C.D.S., iii. p. 323; R.H.C., i. No. 194.) ' [3]

It would appear that we can extend the Caldecotes pedigree back at
least one generation, to include Robert de Caldecotes [See below]. It
is possible that Robert was the grandfather to John de Caldecotes, or
was otherwise more remotely related, but the relationship indicated
appears most likely at present. He was probably the same 'Robert de
Caldecotes' who fought in the division of John Randolph, Earl of Moray
at the battle of Halidon Hill, 19 July 1333 [4].

Interestingly, we now have record of two simultaneous, or
near-simultaneous, grants of lands to William de Caldcotis and his
wife Christiana de Tweedy, most likely in connection with their
marriage (on or about 8 May 1388):

1. John de Caldcotis granted a charter to William and
Christian de Twedy, his spouse, of the lands of Sympryne,
co. Berwicks. "ca. 1388" [5].

2. Sir James Douglas of Dalkeith granted a charter of the
lands of Hutone (or Hutton) in Annandale to
' our dear William de Caldcotis and Christiana, his dear
wife ', witnessed by Sir Henry Douglas (brother of Sir
James), John Livingston of Callendar and others, dated at
Dalkeith, 8 May 1388 [6].

The appearance is that these grants were made to the new couple by
both sides of the family: the father of William de Caldcotis, and the
maternal grandfather (Sir James Douglas) of Christian de Tweedy. This
would agree with the identification of a daughter of Sir James Douglas
as having married ___ Tweedie of Drumelzier, based on a charter in the
Morton cartulary as shown in Sir Robert Douglas' Peerage of Scotland
[7]. It would also agree with the details of the dispensation for Sir
William Livingston and Elizabeth de Caldcotis, who were related in
'the
third degree of consanguinity'.


NN ~ Sir James Douglas of Dalkeith = 1) Agnes Dunbar
I ' the elder ' I [ = 2) Egidia Stewart]
I d. 1420 _____I________________________
I I I I I
NN = Walter Tweedie Agnes = Sir John <siblings>
I of Drumelzier Douglas I Livingston
_ _ _I_______________ d. aft I k. Homildon
I I 1421 I 1402
Walter Christian I
Tweedie = William I____
de Caldcotis I
I I
I I
Elizabeth = William Livingston
de Caldcotis I of Kilsyth
m. bef 12 Nov 1421 I d. bef 20 Apr 1460
<dispensation> I
V

Should anyone have additional documentation, comment or criticism,
that would be welcome.

Cheers,

John *


NOTES [to post]:

[1] William Angus, ed., Miscellaneous Charters, 1315-1401, from
Transcripts in the Collection of the late Sir William Fraser,
in Miscellany of the Scottish History Society (Edinburgh:
T. and A. Constable Ltd. for the Society, 1933), V:18-20,
no. 11 (cites Traquair Charter Chest).

[2] Ibid., V:19.

[3] Ibid., V:59.

[4] Sir David Dalrymple, Annals of Scotland, from the Accession of
Malcolm III. to the Accession of the House of Stewart (Edinburgh:
William Creech, 1797), III:89.

[5] Angus, Ibid., V:59

[6] Reg. Honoris de Morton II:164-5, no. 187. This charter was
discussed in some detail in the SGM thread <William de
Caldecotis, and Sir James Douglas of Dalkeith (d. 1420)>,
in August 2006.

[7] Douglas, Peerage II:267, cites
" Ib. [Carta penes Com. de Morton ad An. 1380] D."


* John P. Ravilious

_______________________________________________________


1 Robert de Caldcotis
----------------------------------------
Death: bef 1336[1]

of Simprim, co. Berwicks.

he fought in the battle of Halidon, 19 July 1333:
' Robert de Caldecotes', fought in the division of John Randolph,
Earl of Moray [Dalrymple, p. 89[2]]

he either died in the battle, or soon thereafter:

' In 1335-6 part of the barony of Sempring was in the hands of
Edward III. by reason of the minority of the heir of Robert de
Caldecotes. ' [Misc. Charter, Scot. Hist. Soc. Miscellany V:59[1],
cites C.D.S., iii., p. 323; R.H.C., i. No. 194.]

__________________________

he was possibly a descendant of ' Caldecote, Geffrey de
(del counte de Edenburgh).' - swore allegiance to King
Edward I at Berwick, 1296 [Ragman Roll[5] ]

~ 'Galfrid of Caldcote', one of the auditors for Robert de Brus in
his claim to the Scots throne, 2 June 1292 [Crawfurd, p. 20[6]]

Children: John (->1387)


1.1 John de Caldcotis
----------------------------------------
Death: aft 1387[3]

of Graden and Simprim, co. Berwicks. and Hutton, co. Dumfries.

' Johanne de Cauldcotys', witness (together with James de Tuedi
and others) to charter of John Stewart of Dalswinton granting
lands of Ormystoun to William Maitland, confirmed by King David
II at Edinburgh, 9 Dec 1353 [Misc. Charter, Scot. Hist. Soc.
Miscellany V:18-20, no. 11[1], cites Traquair Charter Chest]

~ concerning John de Caldcotis, Angus wrote:
' In 1335-6 part of the barony of Sempring was in the hands of
Edward III. by reason of the minority of the heir of Robert de
Caldecotes. The heir was probably the above witness [John de
Caldcotis], who c. 1388 granted a charter to his son William and
Christian, daughter of Walter de Twedy, his spouse, of the lands
of Sympryne. Caldcoat is the old name for Macbiehill, in the
parish of Newlands. (C.D.S., iii., p. 323; R.H.C., i. No. 194.)'
[Misc. Charter, Scot. Hist. Soc. Miscellany V:59[1]]

heraldic seal of John de Caldecotis:
' CALDECOTE, John, of Grayden and Sympryne (Berwickshire).
A shield of arms: A saltire and chief, the latter charged with
three escallops. Legend (l.c.): S IOHANNIS [DE] CALDCOTYS.
Diam 7/8 in. Laing, ii. 157. Reg. Ho. Ch., No. 193,
c. 1387-8 - Cast; No. 194, c. A.D. 1388 - Cast. '
[Stevenson, II:268[3]]

' John de Caldicotis, lord of Hutton under the Moor ', as styled
by Cameron Smith concerning his daughter Elena:
" There is however a charter preserved in HM Register House which
mentions the late William de Boys, lord of Hallathys in Annandale under

the year 1379. His spouse, who had survived him, was Elena de
Caldicotis, daughter of John de Caldicotis, lord of Hutton under the
Moor. her mother was Mariota (Marion) de Crawford, daughter of the
late Thomas de Crawford, Elena's grandfather on the mother's side.
" The lands had been destined to the heirs of Elena's marriage, but
these rights she then resigned at the date mentioned, so presumably the

lands remained with the Caldicoties family or their assignees. (There
is no evidence that the lord of Halleaths had left any heir by his
marriage with Elena.)" [Alex Maxwell Findlater, <Caldecotis>[4]]

Spouse: Marion de Crawford

Children: Elena, m. William de Boys
William (-<1424)


1.1.1 William de Caldcotis
----------------------------------------
Death: bef 6 Jan 1424[3]

of Graden and Simprim, co. Berwicks. and Hutton, co. Dumfries.

' our dear William de Caldcotis and Christiana, his dear wife '
[" dilect(' n'ris Will'o de Caldcot(' 't cristiane dilce spo[n]se
sue "], had charter from James Douglas, lord of Dalkeith
[her grandfather, not so identified] of the lands of Hutone in
Annandale, witnessed by Sir Henry Douglas (brother of Sir James),
John Livingston of Callendar and others, dated at Dalkeith,
8 May 1388 [Reg. Honoris de Morton II:164-5, no. 187[7]]

he evidently d. before 6 Jan 1424/5 [his wife identified as
' Caldecote, Christiana, widow of William Caldecote ' in a
charter of that date - Scottish Heraldic Seals, II:268[3]]

________________________________


re: his wife:

' Kyrstiane de Caldcottis ', her heraldic seal is identified on a
charter of 8 Jan. 1424-5:
' Caldecote, Christiana, widow of William Caldecote, daughter of
Walter Twedy. A shield of arms: A saltire and chief, the latter
charged with a star in dexter and two escallops.
Legend (l.c.): KYRSTIANE DE CALDCOTTIS. Diam. 1 3/16 in.
Laing, ii. 158. Reg. Ho. Ch., 6 Jan. 1424-5, two of same
date - Cast. ' [Scottish Heraldic Seals, II:268[3]]

Spouse: Christiana Tweedie
Death: aft 6 Jan 1424[3]
Father: Walter Tweedie of Drumelzier
Mother: NN Douglas
Marr: bef 8 May 1388[7]

Children: Elizabeth (->1459)


1.1.1.1 Elizabeth de Caldcotis
----------------------------------------
Death: aft 8 Nov 1459[3]

had a third of the lands of Graden, co. Berwicks. as her maritagium
or inheritance[8]

' dilecti filii nobilis viri Willelmi de Leuynston Domicelli et delict
in Christo filie nobilis mulieris Elisabeth de Caldcotis Domicelle',
postnuptial dispensation granted 12 Nov 1421, they being related in
the 3rd degree of consanguinity ["tertio consanguinitatis
gradu" - Stuart p. 453[9]]

her heraldic seal is identified on a charter of 8 Nov. 1459:
' Caldecote, Elizabeth, daughter of William Caldecote of Grayden,
wife of William Livingston of Balcastel (or of Kilsyth). A shield
of arms: A saltire and chief, the latter charged with three escallops.
Foliage at top and sides of shield.
Legend (l.c.): S ELISABETH DE LEVINGSTON. Diam. 1 1/16 in.
Laing, ii. 159. Reg. Ho. Ch., No. 357 (2), 8 Nov. 1459 - Cast. '
[Scottish Heraldic Seals, II:268[3]]

her arms according to E. Livingston:
' a saltire and chief, the latter charged with three escallops'
[Livingston, citing seal in Laing, ii. 159][8]

cf. SP V:184[10]

Spouse: William Livingston of Balcastell and Wester Kilsyth
Death: bef 20 Apr 1460[10],[8]
Father: Sir John Livingston of Callendar (-1402)
Mother: Agnes Douglas (->1421)
Marr: bef 12 Nov 1421[8],[9]

Children: Edward (-<1482)
William (->1481)
Alexander


1. William Angus, ed., "Miscellaneous Charters, 1315-1401, from
Transcripts in the Collection of the late Sir William Fraser,"
Miscellany of the Scottish History Society, Edinburgh: T. and A.
Constable Ltd. for the Society, 1933, Vol. V, pp. 3-78.
2. Sir David Dalrymple, "Annals of Scotland, from the Accession of
Malcolm III. to the Accession of the House of Stewart," Edinburgh:
William Creech, 1797 (Vol. III).
3. John Horne Stevenson, K.C. and Marguerite Wood, Ph.D., Scottish
Heraldic Seals: Royal, Official, Ecclesiastical, Collegiate,
Burghal, Personal, Glasgow: printed by Robert MacLehose & Coy.,
Limited at the University Press, 1940 (Vol. II).
4. Alex Maxwell Findlater, "Caldecotis," 20 June 2006,
GEN-MED...@rootsweb.com, cites Cameron Smith, Trans Dumfries
& Galloway etc Vol XXIII, 1940-44, p 77, article on Boys, and other
sources.
5. "Clan Stirling," http://www.clanstirling.org/uploads/ragmanrolls.pdf
provides .pdf file of the names of those who swore allegiance to
Edward I of England at Berwick, 1296 (the 'Ragman Rolls').
6. George Crawfurd, "The History of the Shire of Renfrew," Paisley:
Printed and sold by Alex. Weir, 1782, (originally, Edinburgh :
Printed by James Watson, 1710), [also as cited by Burke; and
Paisley Herald article, F of Barrochan], ' containing a
genealogical
history of the royal house of Stewart,..'.
7. Thomas Thomson, ed., "Registrum Honoris de Morton," Vol. II -
Ancient Charters, Edinburgh: J. Constable, for the Bannatyne Club,
1853, full title: ' Registrum Honoris de Morton A series of
Ancient Charters of the Earldom of Morton with other Original
Papers in Two Volumes ', completed, with preface by Cosmo Innes.
8. Edwin Brockholst Livingston, "The Livingstons of Callendar and
their Principal Cadets: The history of an old Stirlingshire
family,"
Edinburgh: T. and A. Constable, 1920, .pdf images provided by
Genealogy.com, http://www.genealogy.com/, re: the Livingstons of
Kilsyth (cf. Chapter IX, THE LIVINGSTONS, VISCOUNTS OF KILSYTH),
pp. 210 et seq.
9. Andrew Stuart, "Genealogical History of the Stewarts, from the
earliest period of their authentic history to the present times,
London: Printed for A. Strahan, and T. Cadell Jun. and W. Davies,
in the Strand, 1798, .pdf image files provided by Genealogy.com
www.genealogy.com, includes texts of dispensations relevant to the
Stewart family.
10. Sir James Balfour Paul, ed., "The Scots Peerage," Edinburgh: David
Douglas, 1904-1914 (9 volumes).

Alex Maxwell Findlater

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Nov 3, 2006, 2:41:34 AM11/3/06
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Dear John

You should put too much weight on the charter of James Douglas of
Dalkeith to William de Caldicotes. The Caldicotes family had held
Hutton under the Moor since at least the beginning of the century,
Robert son of Geoffrey de Caldicotes was dispossessed in 1306 by Edward
I of lands in "Galloway" in favour of Adam Swinburne. (Palgrave Docs
Hist Scot 301-318 quoted by Barrow in Rbt Bruce, p 447). In the
charter I mentioned in an earlier post:

quote:

Trans Dumfries & Galloway etc Vol XXIII, 1940-44, p 77, article on Boys

by Cameron Smith:

"There is however a charter preserved in HM Register House which
mentions the late William de Boys, lord of Hallathys in Annandale under
the year 1379. His spouse, who had survived him, was Elena de
Caldicotis, daughter of John de Caldicotis, lord of Hutton under the
Moor. her mother was Mariota (Marion) de Crawford, daughter of the
late Thomas de Crawford, Elena's grandfather on the mother's side.

"The lands had been destined to the heirs of Elena's marriage, but
these rights she then resigned at the date mentioned, so presumably the
lands remained with the Caldicoties family or their assignees. (There
is no evidence that the lord of Halleaths had left any heir by his
marriage with Elena.)"

unquote

That they are the same family is indicated by Robert fighting and
probably dying at Halidon Hill in 1334 in the division of John
Randolph, who was Earl of Moray but also more tellingly in this context
Lord of Annandale. It is also indicated by the arms of the Caldicotes,
already quote by John as based on the Bruce of Annandale arms, ie a
saltire and chief (as are Tweedie, but that's not relevant here.)
Geffrey de Caldicotes was a charter witness to Annandale charters in
1294 (Rbt de Brus V granting land in Dundee (from the inheritance of
Isobel sister & coheiress of John earl of Chester) to Ralph de Dundee,
witnesses Wm de Brus, John de Seton, David de Torthorald, David de
Betune, Adam de Retres, knights, Galfrid de Caldecotes, John de
Inchemartin) and 1245x95 (Agnes ed late Laurence Avenal resigning lands
in Tundergarth to Rbt de Brus V, witnesses Sir Humphrey de Gardino, Rbt
de Haveryngton, David de Torthorald, Humphrey de Bosco, knights, Geoff
de Caldecote, Adam Flamank, Rbt Forestar, Jo de Refholes & others)

So, all I am saying is that I think that the Douglas charter to the
couple, probably newly-wed, as this was the custom, was a resignation
to and regrant by his feudal superior of ancestral lands of William.
We know from the Registrum Honoris de Morton that the Douglases of
Dalkeith inherited the lands of the Grahams of Dalkeith, who were the
heirs of the Avenals in these north Annandale lands (and others) even
though we cannot be sure of the genealogical connection there.

Interestingly, we find here a chain of feudal tenure:

King
|
Lord of Annandale (Bruce then Randolph)
|
mesne tenant (Avenal then Graham then Douglas)
|
terre tenant (Caldicotes)

This can be quite confusing in Scottish charters, and is avoided in
English charters because of "Quia emptores", which forbad
sub-infeudation.

John P. Ravilious

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Nov 3, 2006, 8:35:57 AM11/3/06
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Dear Alex,

Thanks for your message, and the notes (of caution and
otherwise).

I concur, the charter of Sir James Douglas to Willliam de
Caldcotis and Christian de Tweedy by itself proves little. It does
however fit in with the other evidence (would that all the Morton
charters were accessible), esp. taking the known Tweedie-Douglas
relationship and the known Tweedie-de Caldcotis relationship.

I note with pleasure that you had found reference to Robert as
the son of Geoffrey de Caldicotes (your citation from Palgrave and
Barrow's Robert Bruce). This would then appear to firm up one more
generation in the family, 'Geffrey de Caldecote' having been
previously noted as (1) submitting to Edward I of England at Berwick in
1296, and (2) ' Galfrid of Caldcote' being one of the auditors for
Robert de Brus in his claim to the Scots throne, 1292. We then
(apparently) have:

Geoffrey de Caldcotis
I
Robert de Caldcotis
I
John de Caldcotis = Marion (Mariota) de Crawford
I
William (de) Caldcotis = Christian de Tweedie
I
Elizabeth (de) Caldcote = William Livingston

Cheers,

John

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