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Stewart Baldwin

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Mar 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/22/99

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Table 5: The Kings of Man of the dynasty of Godred Crovan

Unless othewise stated, all genealogical statements in this table come
from CRM, as translated in ESSH, with chronological data
taken from NHI and HBC.

d. ca. 1231 | d. 1238 d. Oct/Nov 1248 k. Man, d. d. 24 Nov 1265

| | md. Cecilia, dau. 30 May 1249 md. Mary, dau.
| | of Hakon, king | Ewen of Argyle
Harald ii | of Norway | [see Note 4]
d. 1250/2 |________________________ | _|___
k. Man | |? |? | ? |
daughter, Rhanullt, others? Mary, heiress ? Godred
md. Thomas md. Gruffudd [see of Man, md. ? d. 1275
son of ap Llywelyn Note 3] John Waldboef ? claimant
Alan of prince of [see Note 6] ? [see
Galloway North Wales ? Note 5]
[see note 2] ???????????????????????
?
Aufrica de Connaught, heiress of Man,
quitclaimed rights to Simon de Montagu
[see Note 6]

Note 1: According to the Icelandic sagas [see ESSH, vol. 2, p. 191],
Olaf md. Ingibjorg, daughter of Hakon, jarl of Orkney, by
whom he was father of Godred. In contradiction to this, CRM states
that Godred was the son of Aufrica, daughter of Fergus of
Galloway. Although there seems to be no good reason to doubt that
Olaf was also married to Ingibjorg, the native source of CRM
is to be preferred regarding the identity of Godred's mother.

Note 2: According to BWG, Rhanullt appears in several Welsh
manuscript genealogies, of which the earliest one is Peniarth MS.
131, by Gutun Owain, ca. 1480. The marriage is plausible enough, but
better documentation would be desirable.

Note 3: BWG mentions two other children. For one, a son Hywel, the
only source cited is Lewys Dwnn's visitation of Wales (late
sixteenth century). For the other, an unnamed daughter who married
Rhodri ap Owain Gwynedd, the only source cited is a
secondary one, Lloyd's History of Wales, pp. 588, 617 (to which I do
not have access to see if it cites a primary source).

Note 4: According to The Complete Peerage (under Strathearn), Malise,
earl of Strathearn (d. 1271) md. 4th, Mary, widow of
Magnus, king of Man, dau. of Ewen of Argyll.

Note 5: Godred's brief attempt to claim the throne in 1275 is
mentioned in the Chronicle of Lanercost. See ESSH, vol. 2, pp. 672-3.

Note 6: In 1266, the kingdom of Man was transferred to Alexander III,
king of Scotland, and the line of native rulers of Man
ended (except for the brief attempt mentioned above in note 5).
According to "English Genealogy" by Anthony Wagner (2nd ed.,
Oxford, 1972), p. 79, two heiresses attempted to get their rights
recognized in 1293. They were Aufrica de Connoght, kinswoman
and heiress of king Magnus of Man, who made over her rights to Simon
Montagu/Montacute (see the Complete Peerage under
Montagu), and Mary, daughter of Reginald, who married John Waldboef.
I was able to verify Mary's status from the Roll of
Parliament for 33 Edward III (Rolls Series 98), p. 131, but I do not
know what primary source gives Aufrica's status as heiress of
Magnus, nor do I know the source of the statement of the Dictionary of
National Biography (under Simon Montacute) that
Aufrica was the daughter of a certain Fergus and "sister of Orray,
king of Man" (whoever that was). According to The Complete
Peerage, there is no evidence to support the statement of DNB that
Aufrica married Simon.

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