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Plantagenet ancestry of Sir Martin Frobisher

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Dear Leo, et al.,

The noted Sir Martin Frobisher was a nephew of Francis Frobisher, Esq.
of Doncaster, co. Yorks. The marriage of his uncle Francis to Christian
Hastings (of the Hastings family of Elsing, Norfolk and Fenwick, co.
Yorks.) obviously does not impact the ancestry of Sir Martin: however, I
have found a descent from Hamelin, Earl of Surrey (d. 1202) which I am
forwarding for your review and possible use on Genealogics.

Please note also, Sir Martin's 2nd wife Dorothy Wentworth is currently
shown on Genealogics with her 3rd husband Sir John Savile only.

Cheers,

John *

1 Geoffrey 'Plantagenet' of Anjou
----------------------------------------
Birth: 24 Nov 1113[1]
Death: 7 Sep 1151, Le Mans, Maine[1]
Occ: Count of Anjou 1130-1151
Father: Fulk V of Anjou (ca1090-1143)
Mother: Eremburg of La Fleche (-1126)

Count of Anjou

Mistress: NN

Children: Hamelin (-1202)
Emma (->1211)


1.1 Hamelin de Anjou
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Death: 7 May 1202[2]
Burial: Chapter house, Lewes[3]
Occ: Earl of Surrey de jure uxoris

illegitimate son;
became Earl of Surrey in connection with his marriage to Isabella,
Countess of Surrey in 1164
supporter of King Henry II (his half-brother) in the rebellion of 1173

' Hamelino Comite Warenne ', witness [together with Hubert Walter,
Bernard de St. Valery and others ] to charter of King Henry II
confirming previous gifts to Leiston Abbey, dated at Westminster,
May 1185-July 1189 [Leiston Abbey Cartulary pp. 74-75, No. 24[4]]

he m. (as 2nd husband) Isabel de Warenne[5]

Spouse: Isabel de Warenne
Death: ca 12 Jul 1203[2]
Father: William de Warenne (ca1119-1147)
Mother: Alice of Ponthieu (-1174)
Marr: abt Apr 1164[2]

Children: William (-1240)
Maud (->1211)
Ela
Isabel
NN


1.1.1 Ela de Warenne
----------------------------------------

m. lstly Robert de Newburn,
2ndly William FitzWilliam[2]

cf. CP Vol XII/I, under Surrey, identifying the total issue
of the marriage of Hamelin and Isabel (p. 500, note g)[2]

Spouse: William FitzWilliam, of Sprotborough, co. Yorks.
Birth: bef 1177
Death: aft 9 Feb 1218[2]
Father: William fitz Godric (-<1195)
Mother: Aubrey de Lisours (->1194)

Children: Thomas (->1259)


1.1.1.1 Thomas FitzWilliam
----------------------------------------
Death: aft 25 Jun 1259[7],[2]
Occ: lord of Emley and Sprotborough

knt., of Sprotborough, West Riding, co. York[8]
had livery of his land in Riton as early as 23 Feb 1223/24 (CP II:162,
sub Bertram)[2]

identified in CP as having d. after 1252 [2]; he d. after 25 Jun 1259.

Spouse: Agnes Bertram
Father: Roger Bertram (-1241)
Mother: Agnes

Children: Sir William (-<1295)
Denise
Sir Roger fitz Thomas (-<1308)
Agnes (-<1303)
Margaret
Aubrey
Berta (->1319)


1.1.1.1.1 Sir Roger fitz Thomas de Woodhall
----------------------------------------
Death: bef 1308[10]

knt., of Woodhall, co. Yorks.[11]

GENEALOGICS I00446380 [20]

' Sir Roger Fytz Williams of Woodhall Knight. = Mawd doughter of Sir
John Bosvyle of Ardsley Knight.' [HSP 16:27, pedigree of Bosvyle[12]]

' Roger Fytz William Knight of Woodhall. = Mawde doughter to John Bosvyle
of Ardesley Knight.' [HSP 16:123, pedigree of Fitz William[12]]

had a grant of Woodhall from his father, as evidenced in Bond dated 25
June 1259:
' Roger FitzThomas is bound to Lord Thomas Fitzwilliam in £20 sterling
for the manor of La Wode halle, with appurtenances, which he holds of
him by a grant, at £20 p.a.
Witnesses: Lord Philip Darcy, John de la Ware, Radulph de Horby,
Radulph Tilly, John de Bosceule, Simon de Ver, knights, Ranulph de
Thorp, Adam de Deneby, Richard de Rodes, and many others.
Dated at Wodehall; on the morrow of the Nativity of John the Baptist
(24 June), 1259. ' [Seal: Indistinct. Bottom left portion only
remaining, green wax, on tag. ] - A2A, Sheffield Archives: Wentworth
Woodhouse Muniments [WWM/C - WWM/E], WWM/D/7[7]

' Sir Roger son of Thos', witness to a record, undated:
' Bond by Agnes, daughter of Thos son of Wm, for the repayment to her
kinsman, Thos Bertram, of a sum of £20 sterling lent to the said Agnes
by Thomas for the purchase of land.
Witnesses:- Sir Roger son of Thos, Hugh de Langethwayt, Ric son of
John de Scauceby, Wm Tepel of Donecastre, Wm de Langethwayt and others '
- A2A, Nottinghamshire Archives: Savile of Rufford: Deeds and Estate
Papers [DD/SR/13 - DD/SR/205], DD/SR/36/110[7]

' Sir Roger fitzThomas ', witness (together with his brother Sir
William) to grant of the manor of Langthwaite for life, dated at
Langthwaite, 2 Ides of Mar 1276:
' Hugh de Langthewait, son and heir of Sir William de Langthewait, to
Sir Robert de Eueringham, then rector of the church of Berkyn.
The manor of Langthwaite with all appurtenances; all his land in
Adwick le Street; all his land and rent in Doncaster between Chesewold
Bridge and the mills bridge; all his land and rent in Wheatley; ½ mark
annual rent in Sprotborough which is owed by Sir William fitzThomas.
For term of life. Annual rent of 19s. 8d., of which 5s. 4d. to the
chief lord of the fee, Peter de Mallo Lacu, 13s. 4d. to the Abbot of
St. Mary's, York, 1s. to Sir Stephen le Waleis, lord of Bourk; and suit
of court to the Court of Sir Peter de Mallo Lacu at Doncaster.
Witnesses: Sir William fitzThomas, Sir John de Romundby, Sir Roger
fitzThomas, Sir Richard de Romundby, kts., Sir William de Veyley,
rector of Owston, Sir Henry de Normanton Henry chaplain of Adwick le
Street, Ralph de Langthewait, Thomas de Scauceby, William de Newesum,
Henry de Rockeleye, Adam de Langthewait, Adam Maldut and many others. '
- A2A, Sheffield Archives: Cooke of Wheatley Muniments, CWM/131[7]

' Sir Roger FitzThomas ', witness to grant dated ca. 1295-1300:
' Thomas de Horbyri, brother and heir of John of Horbyri; to Sir
Nicholas de Wortelay. The manor of Shetelingthon with the homage and
services of the free tenants in Netyhir shetelington; two water mills;
one messuage and two carucates of land in Miggeley by Sheletington;
and a parcel of land and wood called Stayniclif.
Witnesses: Sir William FitzWilliam FitzThomas, Sir Robert de Baliol,
Sir William de fleming, Sir Hugh de Eland, Sir John de Sotehill, Sir
Roger FitzThomas, knights, Adam de Pontefract, John de Thornhill,
John de Lasseles, Thomas de Dronfeld, Thomas de Quitlay, Robert de
Barneby. ' - A2A, Sheffield Archives: Wharncliffe Muniments
[Wh M/D/01 - Wh M/P/13], Wh M/D/627[7]

~ Note: Sir Roger's nephew Sir William fitz William was a witness
(ca. 1295 or later)

' Roger de la Wodehall', d. before 1308, survived by his widow Maud:
' In 1308 Maud widow of Roger de la Wodehall complained against
William Fitzwilliam, his brother, Edmund, and others for trespass
at la Woodhall near Wombwell. '[10]

Spouse: Maud Bosvile
Death: aft 1308

Children: John (->1331)


1.1.1.1.1.1 John de Woodhall
----------------------------------------
Death: aft 19 Mar 1331[7]

of Woodhall in Darfield, co. Yorks.

' John Fytz William of Woodhall maryed = Ales doughter to John & syster
to Sir Pyter Mydelton Knight.' [HSP 16:123, pedigree of FitzWilliam[12]]

' John Fytz Williams of Woodhall. = Ales doughter to John and syster
to Pyter Mydelton. ' [HSP 16:27, pedigree of Bosvyle[12]]

' John de Wodhalle', witness to grant dated Monday after the feast of
St. Mark the Evangelist, 2 Edw. II (28 April, 1309):
' Grant by Symon, son of Jardan (sic) de Swathe, to Sir Robert le
Venour, knt., and Margaret, his wife, and her heirs, of a yearly rent
of one penny, which Henry, son of Richard de Rockeley, was wont to pay
the donor for a messuage in the vill of Wirkesburch, to be received
from Richard the heir of the said Henry.
Witnesses, John de Wodhalle, Henry de Rockeley, Thomas de Sceayville,
Hugh de Staynburgh, Robert the fisher of Wirgesburgh, John de Clayton.
Rockeley. (Rev. H. C. Holmes.) ' [Yorks. Deeds p. 184, No. 496[13]]

' John de Wodehall ', witness to grant dated at Aldewark, 19 March 1331/2:
' 1) Thos. Clarell.
2) Agnes his mother.
(1) to (2) for life, ½ manor as above.
Witn.: John de Staynton, Wm. de Estfeld, John de Wodehall, Rob.
Haryngsell, etc.
At Addewyk, Thurs. after St. Gregory Pope.' - A2A, Nottinghamshire
Archives: Foljambe of Osberton: Deeds and Estate Papers
[DD/FJ/2 - DD/FJ/10], DD/FJ/4/32/7[7]

Grant and counterparts, remainder to John de Stainton and his wife,
dated 5 March 1331/2:
1) Agnes, widow of Sir Wm. Clarell, kt.,
2) Thos. her son.
(1) to (2) in tail ½ of manor of Addewyk held of Honour of Tykhill,
with remainder in tail to John de Staynton and wife Johanna.
Witn.: Rob. Haryngsell, John de Woddehall, Wm. le Wavasoure, Wm.
Lowrdd, etc.
At Addewyk, Thurs. before St. Gregory Pope.' [Frag. seal in linen on
i.396.] - A2A, Nottinghamshire Archives: Foljambe of Osberton: Deeds
and Estate Papers, DD/FJ/4/32/4-6[7]

Spouse: Eleanor de Middleton
Father: William de Middleton
Mother: Agnes le Boteler

Children: John (->1387)
Thomas de Woodhall, parson of Saltfleetby


1.1.1.1.1.1.1 John de Woodhall
----------------------------------------
Death: aft 3 Feb 1387[7]

of Woodhall in Darfield, co. Yorks.

' John Fytz William of Woodhall maryed = Kateren eldest doughter &
on of the 3 heyres of Robert Haryngell.' [HSP 16:123, pedigree of
Fitz William[12]]

' John Fytz williams alias Woodhall. = Kateren eldest doughter & on
of theyres of Robert Haryngell of Yorkshyre.' [HSP 16:27, pedigree
of Bosvyle[12]]

' John de Wodehall de Wath ', witness to a release dated 9 March 1343/44 :
' Thomas Flemyngs of Clifton to John Fitzwilliam, of all burdens,
dues and services due in his 3 weekly court for the manor of Wath.
For a red rose at the Nativity of St John the Baptist (24 June).
Witnesses: Bryan de Thornhill, William de Fyncheden, Elis de Bryton,
John de Dranfeld, John de Wodehall de Wath.
At Emley, Sunday before St Gregory (12 March), 1343/4.'
[A2A, Sheffield Archives: Wentworth Woodhouse Muniments [WWM/C - WWM/E],
WWM/D/32[7] ]

' John del Wodhall ', witness (together with his cousin John
FitzWilliam) to a Settlement dated 25 Jul 1361
' Thomas, son of Thomas of Metham, to William of Metham of Cadby,
and Margaret, his wife. The manor of Cadby. For their lives, and after
their death to their son, John, with remainder to his brother, Richard,
and a final remainder to the right heirs of William and Margaret.
Witnesses: John Fitzwilliam, Robert of Staynton, John del Wodhall,
John Frere of Doncaster, William Deyuill of Biyrland, Edmund of
Portyngton, Nicholas Ros Lyn.
Given at Cadby. ' - A2A, Sheffield Archives: Estate Papers of the
Copley Family, Baronets of Sprotborough, CD 88[7]

Lease dated at Sprotborough, 10 Mar 1375:
' Sir John Fitzwilliam, Lord of Emlay to Thomas de Wodehalle, parson
of the Church of All Saints, Saltfletby, and to John his brother.
All his lands in Saltfletby. For 5 years, at £4 and a grey swan p.a.
Witnesses: Raufe de Bracebrigge, Richard de Waterton, Nicholas de
Donbrigge, Robert de Witros, Andrew de Norholme, and John, clerk of
Saltfletby. ' [Seal: covered cup with 2 wyverns . Legend indistinct.
Round, 2½cms. red, on tongue, with 2 wrapping ties.] - A2A, Sheffield
Archives: Wentworth Woodhouse Muniments [WWM/C - WWM/E], WWM/D/62[7]

Subsidy Rolls (Poll Tax) for the year 1379, for Wombwell (Strafforth
wapentake, Darfield parish):
' Johannes de Wodhall' ad valorem Militis......... xx s. '[14]

' John de Wodhall ', witness to grant to his cousin Edmund FitzWilliam
dated 3 Feb. 1387/8:
' 1) John Wyndill of Wynteworth.
2) Edmund Fitzwilliam.
(1) to (2) 3a. abutting on Ketilgref and on Cortheworth Lidyate,
and 1a. on le Falle, in Corteworth.
Witn.: John de Rodes, John de Wodhall, John Potter, sen. and jun., etc.
At Corteworth, Mon. after Purification of B.V.M., 11 Rich. II.'
- A2A, Nottinghamshire Archives: Foljambe of Osberton: Deeds and Estate
Papers [DD/FJ/1/196 - DD/FJ/1/298], DD/FJ/1/208/9[7]

' John Wodehall ', witness to grant dated 8 Feb. 1388/9:
' 1) Laurence de le Stede.
2) Edmund Fitzwilliam.
(1) to (2) 17 butts towards Corteworth field on south and Hoberlaugh
on north, in Wynteworth.
Witn.: John Wodhalle, Thos. Toursman, Thos. Toy, etc.
Mon. after Purification of B.V.M., 12 Rich. II. Seal. ' - A2A,
Nottinghamshire Archives: Foljambe of Osberton: Deeds and Estate
Papers [DD/FJ/1/196 - DD/FJ/1/298], DD/FJ/1/208/10[7]

his lands included
' the Manor of Wodhall, by Wombwell, and also all the lands, tenements,
rents and services in Derfeld, Wombwell, Hymlingfeld, Wodhall,
Smethley, Wykerburgh, and Bylynglay, which once belonged to Isabell,
wife of Thomas de Barlay, and John de Wodhall, father of Isabell.'
[Settlement of 1420[15]]

Spouse: Katherine Haryngsell
Father: Robert Haryngsell (->1331)

Children: Isabel


1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 Isabel Woodhall
----------------------------------------

' Izabell doughter & sole heyr wyff to Thomas Barley of
Woodhall.' [HSP 16:123, pedigree of Fitz William[12]]

' Isabell Fytzwilliam sole doughter & heyre. = Thomas Barley
of Woodsome or of Woodhall.' [HSP 16:27, pedigree of Bosvyle.[12]]

" Isabel Fitz William, the heiress of
Woodhall ", identified in the case of her grandsons William
Bosvile and Robert Drax against Sir William Mauleverer, 1446
(see below) [Barlow p. 16[16], cites De Banco Rolls, No. 741,
m. 328; Cal. Pat. Rolls, Hen VI, 1425, Feb. 12]

Spouse: Thomas Barley
Father: Richard de Barley [16]

Children: Mary (-<1420), m. John Bosvile, of Ardsley, co. Yorks.
Margaret (-<1434)


1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 Margaret Barley
----------------------------------------
Death: bef 6 Apr 1434[17],[16]

' Margaret Barley second doughter & on of theyres parentum. =
John Drakes Sergent at Lawe.' [HSP 16:28, pedigree of Bosvyle[12]]

' John Drax s'gent at armes R. 2 = Margret d. and one of the
heires of Tho. Barley of Woodsam in Woodhall ' [pedigree of
Drax, Surtees Vis. North IV:62[18]]

' John Drax of Woodhall, Sergeant at Arms to King Henry V
= Margaret, dau. & coh. of Thomas Barley, Esq., by Isabell, dau.
& heir of John FitzWilliam of Woodhall, Esq. Will pr. 6 Apr.
1434 ' [HSP 94:166, pedigree of Drax, of Woodhall[17]]

' John Drax, Serejeant at Arms of our Lord King, and Margaret
his wife', party to settlement with John Bosvile (her brother-in-law)
and his son William (her nephew), December 1420:
' This agreement made at London in December 1420, in the presence
of James Stranwaise, Serjeant of Law of our Lord King (Henry V).
Between John Bosville, Esquire, and William his elder son for the
one part; and John Drax, Serejeant at Arms of our Lord King, and
Margaret his wife for the other part.
That is, John Drax and Margaret will have without any
liabilities, the Manor of Wodhall, by Wombwell, and also all the
lands, tenements, rents and services in Derfeld, Wombwell,
Hymlingfeld, Wodhall, Smethley, Wykerburgh, and Bylynglay, which
once belonged to Isabell, wife of Thomas de Barlay, and John de
Wodhall, father of Isabell.
Also, John Drax and Margaret will have all the lands, tenements,
rents and services, which the Prior of Monk Bretton holds of the
Manor of Wodhall; excepting for one year, afield in Derfeld called
Giles Place, which, after one year will revert to John Drax and
Margaret, for an annual payment of ten shillings to John Bosville
and his heirs begotten by Mary, sometime his wife.
And, John Bosville and his aforesaid heirs, will have the Manors
of High Melton and Wath, called Thornhall, and all the lands,
tenements, rents and services in High Melton, Wath, Little Melton,
Brampton, Hickleton, Grisbro, High Burton, Gaytford, Selby and
Brayton.
Also, according to the practice, John Bosville and his aforesaid
heirs, will have the roads of the Manor of Newhall, from a bridge
called Aldambrigge in the village of Wombwell, in the demesne of
Wodhall, according to the terms of an old agreement made.
And also, John Bosville and his aforesaid heirs, will have from
John Drax and Margaret, an annual rent of six pounds from the lands,
tenements, rents and services of the Manor of Wodhall; excepting the
Manor itself and the gardens surrounded by an ancient wall; to be
paid at the Feast of the Nativity of our Lord Jesus, and at Saint
John the Baptist, by equal portions. But the aforesaid rent to cease
for all time, if John Bosville or his son William, should recover or
buy certain lands or tenements in Derfeld, called Bygarthcep.
And, if anything should be written differently, from or against
this Agreement, it will be corrected by the aid of James and Richard
Wynteworth. '[15]

Spouse: John Drax

Children: Robert
Thomas
Richard


1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 Robert Drax
----------------------------------------

of Woodhall, co. Yorks.

' Robert Drax of Drax mar: to his 1 wiff Elenor d. to Robart Rokby
of Rokby Fulthivatt = Katherin d. to Wm Mirfeld of Yorkshier '
[pedigree of Drax, Surtees Vis. North IV:62[18]]

' Robert Drax, succeeded his brother John at Woodhall = Ellinor,
dau. of Robert Rockley, Esq. ' [HSP 94:167, pedigree of Drax,
of Woodhall[17]]

'Robert Drax', plaintiff with his cousin William Bosvile:
' The record in a case at Westminster, 1446, of Will. Bosvyle and
Robert Drax against Will. Mauleverer, Knt., and ors., recites that
the manor of Wodonson was given by Robert Berley, Knt., to his son,
Richard, temp. Edw. III; Richard had a son and heir, Thomas, who in
1392 married Isabel Fitz William, the heiress of Woodhall, who
settled all her lands at Woodhall, Darfield, Wombwell, etc., in
trust on her marriage. Thomas and Isabel Berley had two daughters
co-heiresses, Mary, who married John Bosvyle, and Margaret the wife
of John de Drax: in the proceedings the two sons of these marriages,
namely, William Bosvyle and Robert Drax, claimed recovery of the
properties against Mauleverer and ors., the Trustees, the
Mauleverer pedigree showing marriages in the fourteenth century with
both Bosvyle and Berlay. ' [Barlow p. 16[16], cites De Banco Rolls,
No. 741, m. 328; Cal. Pat. Rolls, Hen VI, 1425, Feb. 12]

Spouse: Eleanor Rockley

Children: Alexander (-1501)
Robert
Margaret
Katherine
Agnes
Alice


1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 Alexander Drax
----------------------------------------
Death: 10 Aug 1501[17]

of Woodhall, co. Yorks.

' Alexander Drax, Esq., s. & h., of Woodhall, d. 10 Aug. 1501
= Joan, dau. of Nicholas Wortley of Wortley, Esq. ' [HSP 94:166,
pedigree of Drax, of Woodhall[17]] {1}

{1} pedigree in HSP 94[17] makes Alexander son of John Drax, and
father of Robert Drax, in error.

Spouse: Joan Wortley

Children: John (-<1516)


1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 John Drax
----------------------------------------
Death: bef 7 Feb 1516[17]

Esq., of Woodhall, co. Yorks.

' John Drax of Woodhall, Esq., mar. June 1513. Adm. of Will
7 Feb. 1516 = Beatrice, dau. of Sir Richard Woodrove of Woolley,
Knt. = 2nd husband, Thos. Wentwoth of Wentworth Woodhouse; died
5 Dec. 1548 ' [HSP 94:167, pedigree of Drax, of Woodhall[17]]

Spouse: Beatrice Woodrove
Marr: Jun 1513[17]

Children: Nicholas


1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 Nicholas Drax
----------------------------------------

Esq., of Woodhall, co. Yorks.

' Nicholas Drax of Woodhall, Esq. = Katherine, dau. of Roger
Wombwell, Esq., of Wombwell, by his wife Catherine, dau. of
Alexander Radcliffe of Ordsall ' [HSP 94:167, pedigree of
Drax, of Woodhall[17]]

Spouse: Katherine Wombwell

Children: Robert (-<1549)
Katherine


1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 Robert Drax
----------------------------------------
Death: bef 9 Mar 1549[17]

Esq., of Woodhall, co. Yorks.

' Robert Drax of Woodhall, Esq. Will dated 15 Oct. 1549, proved
9 March 1550 = Katherine, dau. of John Fleming of Sharlston, by
his wife Mary, dau. of Geoffrey Leventhorpe, Esq. ' [HSP 94:167,
pedigree of Drax of Woodhall[17]]

Spouse: Katherine Fleming

Children: Thomas Drax, of Woodhall
Katherine


1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 Katherine Drax
----------------------------------------

' Thomas Wakefield of Newark; 1st husband = Katherine [Drax]
= John Frobisher of Altofts; bur. at Normanton 13 Apr. 1543;
2nd husband ' [HSP 94:167, pedigree of Drax of Woodhall[17]]

' ... Katherine, dau. of Mr. Robert Drax of Woodhall in ye parish
of Darfield, relict of Mr. Thomas Waikefeild of Newarke upon Trent,
co. Nottingham ' [HSP 94:188, pedigree of Frobisher of Flint,
Altofts and Finningley[17]]

Spouse: John Frobisher, of Altofts, co. Yorks.
Death: 13 Apr 1543[17]

Children: Francis (-<1563)
Bernard (-<1542)
Anthony


1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 Bernard Frobisher
----------------------------------------
Death: bef 1 Sep 1542[17]
Burial: 1 Sep 1542, Normanton, co. Yorks.[17]

' Barnard Frobisher, bur. at Normanton 1 Sep. 1542 = Anne,
dau. of Sir John Yorke of Gowthwaite, Knt., and his wife
Katherine Patterdall, bur. at Normanton 22 Sep. 1549 '
[HSP 94:188, pedigree of Frobisher of Flint, Altofts and Finningley[17]]

cf. DNB 721[19]

Spouse: Anne Yorke

Children: Sir Martin (-1594)
John (-<1579)


1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1a Sir Martin Frobisher*
----------------------------------------
Death: 22 Nov 1594, d.s.p.[17]

GENEALOGICS I00447643 [20]

' Sir Martin Frobisher, Admiral of the Fleet, of "Frobisher Hall,"
Altofts; born 1535; died 22 Nov. 1594. Will dated 4 Aug. 1594,
pr. 15 April 1595 = Dorothy, dau. of Lord Wentworth, widow of Sir
Wm. Widmerpoole, Knt. ' [HSP 94:188, pedigree of Frobisher of
Flint, Altfots and Finningley[17]]

record of 1st marriage:
' MARTIN FROBISHER
Spouse: ISABELL RICHARD
Marriage: 30 MAY 1559, Snaith, Yorkshire, England '
[The parish registers of Snaith, Co. York[6]]

he m. 1stly Isabel Richard,
2ndly Dorothy Wentworth

cf. DNB 721-4[19]

Spouse: Isabel Richard
Marr: 30 May 1559, Snaith, co. Yorks.[6]


1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1b Sir Martin Frobisher* (See above)
----------------------------------------

Spouse: Dorothy Wentworth [GENEALOGICS I00425338 [20] ]
Father: Thomas Wentworth, Lord Wentworth [GENEALOGICS I00314764 [20] ]
Mother: Margaret Fortescue [GENEALOGICS I00327024 [20] ]


she m. 1stly Paul Withypoole (or Sir William Widmerpoole [17] ),
2ndly Sir Martin Frobisher,
3rdly (as 3rd wife) Sir John Savile [20]


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20. Genealogics website, Leo van de Pas, http://www.genealogics.org


* John P. Ravilious

Leo van de Pas

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Dear John,
What a lot of work!! Many thanks for this. I have printed the 11 pages and
will get stuck into them tomorrow morning, it is almost midnight here. I
hope you have seen the portrait of Sir Martin Frobisher on genealogics? So
good to give him some links as at present he has nothing.
Many thanks.
Leo

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Dear John,
Thanks for posting this.
Diane Sheppard

Tony Hoskins

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Dear John,

Thank you for so generously posting this.

Regards,

Tony Hoskins


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Thanks, John. Your Frobisher post is quite interesting.

Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah

Website: www.royalancestry.net

Leo van de Pas

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Dear John,
Are you aware that Martin Frobisher's maternal grandparents are already in
Genealogics because they are ancestors of Prince Charles? This makes Martin
a 1st cousin umpteen times removed of Prince Charles.
Best wishes
Leo van de Pas

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