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jluc soler

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Jul 21, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/21/00
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I would like to thanks people who answer my question about d'AQUINO family
and CANTELMI family. Ouch i think it is quite impossible to construct a
genealogy of Cantelmi all seems so conflicting and lots of fakes... I ll
try to go in libraries in MARSEILLES to find some sources and i ll post here

To complete my questions.

I would like to have some info or an AT of the CELANO family

i am interested in Francesca CELANO wife of Guillaume DE SABRAN

THX a lot

JLUC SOLER

José Verheecke

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Jul 22, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/22/00
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I only have this bit,from the out-of-date "Plantagenet Ancestry" by
W.H.Turton,225:
(sources:Ammirato,Litta)
1.Francesca di CELANO +1374/79
2.Tommaso,cte di CELANO
3.Isabella d'ACQUAVIVA
4.Ruggero,cte di CELANO
5.Maria d'AQUINO(that family again)
6.Matteo d'ACQUAVIVA +1303
7.Imperatrice d'ARCE dei signori di S.Campli
8.Tommaso,cte di CELANO
9.Iodetta,ctessa di MOLISE
10.Adenolfo di AQUINO(brother of St.Thomas) x 12.4.1293
11.Fior-delle-Altre FELLUCA,sra di Barbiano e Castagno
12.Gualtieri d'ACQUAVIVA +1289
13.Isabella di BELLANTI
and so on....

José Verheecke
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Leo van de Pas

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Jul 22, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/22/00
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Hereby my version of Jose Verheecke's contribution

1.Francesca di Celano
Contessa di Anglone
died 22 February 1374/7 April 1379

2.Tommaso, Conte di Celano
born in Celano, Rome
3.Isabella d'Aquaviva

4.Rogerio, Conte di Celano
married in 1279
5.Maria d'Aquino

6.Matteo d'Aquaviva
died in 1303
7.Imperatrice d'Arce

10.Adenolfo d'Aquino
11. Felluca

12.Gualtieri Acquaviva
died 1289
13.Isabella di Bellante

14.NN di Arco, Signore di Campli
15.NN

20.Landolfo d'Aquino
21.Teodora di Caracciola

24.Berardo Acquaviva
Podesta di Roccacontrada
25.Cuma

26.Bartolomeo di Bellante
27.

40.Aimone I d'Aquino
41.NN

48.Andrea Acquaviva
Judge in Otranto
49.NN

80.Rinaldo d'Aquino
81.NN di Medania

96.Rinaldo Acquaviva
97.Foresta

160.Landome IV d'Aquino
died after 1130
161.NN

162.Robert di Medania
Conte di Acerra
163.NN

194.Leone, Signore d'Atri
195.NN

320.Landome III d'Aquino
321.NN

324.Turgisio Sanseverino (a Norman)
died 1082
325.NN


Sources
Genealogisches Handbuch des Adels
Fuerstliche Haeuser

Plantagenet Ancestry
Baltimore, 1975
by Lt. Col. W.H. Turton

The Ancestro of Elizabeth of York
("The improved Turton")
1999
by Marlyn Lewis

Europaische Stammtafeln
J,A. Stargardt Verlag
Marburg
editor Detlev Schwennicke

Hope this helps
Leo van de Pas


jluc soler

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THX TO ALL who helped me

JL
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Richard Borthwick

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Jul 22, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/22/00
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By thoughtlessness I failed to post the reply below to the list and sent it
direct to "jluc soler" (on the reply button!). Anyway here it is.
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At 08:08 PM 21/07/00 +0200, you wrote:
>I would like to thanks people who answer my question about d'AQUINO family
>and CANTELMI family. Ouch i think it is quite impossible to construct a
>genealogy of Cantelmi all seems so conflicting and lots of fakes... I ll
>try to go in libraries in MARSEILLES to find some sources and i ll post here
>
>To complete my questions.
>
>I would like to have some info or an AT of the CELANO family
>
>i am interested in Francesca CELANO wife of Guillaume DE SABRAN
>
>THX a lot
>
>JLUC SOLER
>
>

Here is an incomplete 8 generation ancestor list for Francesca. It takes
the line back to her earliest known agnatic ancestor. However the list is
incomplete in the sense that I have not entered the references for all the
lines (notably that for Isabella d'Acquaviva) and there are some further
references from the DBI to be added to the references already given. If '#'
and/or '$' attach to the name of person, this indicates that the paternal
and/or maternal affiliation (respectively) of the person who name is so
marked is problematic i.e. is not certain.

1 Francesca di CELANO, C of Aglone. Died 1374/1379.
[ES XIV:183]
She married Guglielmo di SABRANO, C of Ariano, Before 20 Jun 1323.
2 Tommaso (II) di CELANO, C of Celano. Born 1279/1282.
[ES XIV:183; E Jamison "I conti di Molise e di Marsia nei secoli XII e
XIII" in *Atti del Convegno Storico abruzzese-moliasno* I (1932), 149]
3 Isabella d' ACQUAVIVA.
4 Ruggero di CELANO, C of Celano, Albe & Molise. Born ? 1202. Died Dec 1282.
Ruggero recovered his father's counties in 1254 when Pope Innocent IV
arrived in the kingdom, but he was forced to retire to Rome in 1256. In
1266 once again he came into his own. In 1269 he was compelled to give up
Molise but he retained Celano until his death.
[E Jamison "I conti di Molise e di Marsia nei secoli XII e XIII" in *Atti
del Convegno Storico abruzzese-moliasno* I (1932): 118, 138-149; E Jamison
'The Administration of the County of Molise in the Twelfth and Thirteenth
Centuries - Part I" in EHR 44 (1929) 533]
He married Maria d' AQUINO, 16 Jun 1279.
5 Maria d' AQUINO. Died After 1283.
Maria was the daughter of an Adenolfo d'Aquino. After her husband's death
her son was a minor but his mother and her brother, Tomasso, maintained a
defence of Celano against Oddo de Toucy and his wife Filippa. Maria was
probably Ruggero's second wife.
[E Jamison "I conti di Molise e di Marsia nei secoli XII e XIII" in *Atti
del Convegno Storico abruzzese-moliasno* I (1932):149; F Scandone "La vita,
la famiglia e la patria di S. Tommaso De Aquino" in *S. Tommaso d'Aquino.
Miscellanea storico-artistica* (Rome, 1924) 82]
6 Matteo d' ACQUAVIVA. Died 1303 in Teramo, Italy.
7 Imperatrice d' ARCE. Died After 1309.
8 Tommaso (I) di CELANO, C of Celano, Albe & Molise. Born About 1180. Died
1251/1254.
Tommaso siezed the county of Celano from his brother Ricardo in 1220 and
thus put himself in opposition to emperor Frederich II. After the treaty of
1223 he retired to Rome, effectively deprived of his counties.
[DBI 23:352-56; E Cuozzo *Catalogus Baronum: Commentario* (Instituto
storico Italiano: Rome, 1984) 338; E Jamison "I conti di Molise e di Marsia
nei secoli XII e XIII" in *Atti del Convegno Storico abruzzese-moliasno* I
(1932):114-132; E Jamison 'The Administration of the County of Molise in
the Twelfth and Thirteenth Centuries - Part I" in EHR 44 (1929) 532-533]
9 Guiditta di MOLISE. Died After 1247.
In the continuous siege warfare 1220-1223 Guiditta played an active role.
[E Jamison "I conti di Molise e di Marsia nei secoli XII e XIII" in *Atti
del Convegno Storico abruzzese-moliasno* I (1932):102 and notes 4 & 5, 103,
110; E Jamison 'The Administration of the County of Molise in the Twelfth
and Thirteenth Centuries - Part I" in EHR 44 (1929) 532-533]
10 Adenolfo d' AQUINO. Died Before 1271.
The affiliation for Adenolfo is disputed. One theory (put forward by
Scandone) posits him as a brother of St Thomas and son of Landolfo
d'Aquino. Adenolfo according to Scandone was lord of Roccasecca and died
about 1262. Another theory (argued by Pelster) identifies him with the
Atenolfo (III) (d. about 1242), son of Tommaso (I) count of Acerra.
[E Jamison "I conti di Molise e di Marsia nei secoli XII e XIII" in *Atti
del Convegno Storico abruzzese-moliasno* I (1932):149; F Scandone "La vita,
la famiglia e la patria di S. Tommaso De Aquino" in *S. Tommaso d'Aquino.
Miscellanea storico-artistica* (Rome, 1924) 81-86; F Pelster "I parenti
prossimi di S. Tommaso d'Aquino" in *Civiltà Cattolica* 4 (1923):305-308]
11 NN.
According to Scandone NN is Fior-delle-altre (Flos-aliarum) di Falluca
(d. after 29 Nov 1296) the wife of Adenolfo son of Landolfo lord of
Roccasecca (no.3547). She was a widow in 1271. Scandone says she was the
daughter or granddaughter of count Riccardo di Falluca. On 14 June 1293 she
had a royal faculty to alienate lands to the church for the soul of her son
Adenolfo. If, as Pelster argues, Adenolfo is identical with Adenolfo (III)
(no.3719) son of Tomasso count of Acerra then NN is Gubitosa di Laurita.
Pelster contrary to this neat scheme of alternatives indicates that NN is
Fior-delle-altere. This would mean that she was Atendolfo (III)'s wife and
Gubitosa was not or that she was his second wife and mother of Maria but
not of Tomasso.
[F Scandone "La vita, la famiglia e la patria di S. Tommaso De Aquino" in
*S. Tommaso d'Aquino. Miscellanea storico-artistica* (Rome, 1924) 82-83; F
Pelster "I parenti prossimi di S. Tommaso d'Aquino" in *Civiltà Cattolica*
4 (1923):306]
12 Gualtieri d' ACQUAVIVA. Died 1289.
13 Isabella di BELLANTE.
16 Pietro di CELANO, C of Celano. Born About 1150. Died About Sep 1212.
DBI 23:345-49; E Cuozzo *Catalogus Baronum: Commentario* (Instituto
storico Italiano: Rome, 1984) 338
17 N #$ di PALEARIA.
N was sister of the three Palearia brothers, Gentile and Manieri counts
of Manoppello and of Gualtiero bishop of Troia and chancellor of the
kingdom. They were probably children of Pietro di Manoppello.
[E Jamison "I conti di Molise e di Marsia nei secoli XII e XIII" in *Atti
del Convegno Storico abruzzese-moliasno* I (1932):108-109]
18 Ruggero di MANDRA, C of Molise. Died After 1196.
[E Cuozzo *Catalogus Baronum: Commentario* (Instituto storico Italiano:
Rome, 1984) 204; E Jamison "I conti di Molise e di Marsia nei secoli XII e
XIII" in *Atti del Convegno Storico abruzzese-moliasno* I (1932):100-102;
E Jamison 'The Administration of the County of Molise in the Twelfth and
Thirteenth Centuries - Part I" in EHR 44 (1929) 532]
24 Berardo d' ACQUAVIVA.
25 Cuma.
26 Bartolomeo di BELLANTE, L of Bellante. Died 1278.
32 Berardo di ALBE, C of Albe. Died 1160/1166.
[E Cuozzo *Catalogus Baronum: Commentario* (Instituto storico Italiano:
Rome, 1984) 338]
34 Pietro di PALEARIA. L of Manoppello. Died After 1183.
[E Jamison "I conti di Molise e di Marsia nei secoli XII e XIII" in *Atti
del Convegno Storico abruzzese-moliasno* I (1932):109; E Cuozzo *Catalogus
Baronum: Commentario* (Instituto storico Italiano: Rome, 1984) 293]
35 Letitia di MANOPPELLO.
[E Cuozzo *Catalogus Baronum: Commentario* (Instituto storico Italiano:
Rome, 1984) 293]
36 Riccardo di MANDRA, C of Molise. Died After Feb 1170.
Queen Margherita invested Riccardo with the county of Molise.
[E Cuozzo *Catalogus Baronum: Commentario* (Instituto storico Italiano:
Rome, 1984) 101, 204, 216, 219-220; E Jamison "I conti di Molise e di
Marsia nei secoli XII e XIII" in *Atti del Convegno Storico
abruzzese-moliasno* I (1932):96-100; E Jamison 'The Administration of the
County of Molise in the Twelfth and Thirteenth Centuries - Part I" in EHR
44 (1929) 532]
37 Gaitelgrima. Died After 1182.
[E Jamison "I conti di Molise e di Marsia nei secoli XII e XIII" in *Atti
del Convegno Storico abruzzese-moliasno* I (1932):100]
48 Andrea d' ACQUAVIVA.
64 Crescenzio, C of the Marsi. Died After 1120.
[E Cuozzo *Catalogus Baronum: Commentario* (Instituto storico Italiano:
Rome, 1984) 335]
70 Boemondo di SAN FELE, C of Manoppello. Died 1169.
Boemondo (II) was count of of Manoppello 1157-69. His predecessor in
Manoppello (1140-56) was Boemondo (I) di Tarsia. The latter had a son of
the same name, but it is unlikely that he is identical to Boemondo (II)
since the Chronicon Casauriense, auctore Johanne Berardi ejusdem coenobii
monacho..., col. 897 states of Boemondo (I) "...nullusque de suis heredibus
in Comitatu Manuplellensi... potuit ei succedere" (see Cuozzo, pp. xxv and
290).
[E Cuozzo *Catalogus Baronum: Commentario* (Instituto storico Italiano:
Rome, 1984) 291-293]
96 Rinaldo d' ACQUAVIVA.
Emperor Heinrich VI on 25 April 1195 granted extensive lands in the
Abbruzzi to Rinaldo and his wife, Foresta formerly held by the latter's
father.
[E Cuozzo *Catalogus Baronum: Commentario* (Instituto storico Italiano:
Rome, 1984) 343, 351]
97 Foresta di ATRI.
[E Cuozzo *Catalogus Baronum: Commentario* (Instituto storico Italiano:
Rome, 1984) 343, 351]
128 Berardo, C of the Marsi.
[E Cuozzo *Catalogus Baronum: Commentario* (Instituto storico Italiano:
Rome, 1984) 335]
194 Leone di ATRI L of Forcello.
[E Cuozzo *Catalogus Baronum: Commentario* (Instituto storico Italiano:
Rome, 1984) 343, 351]


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