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Hebrew for Beatrice

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JJJD...@aol.com

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Apr 9, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/9/00
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Would someone be able to suggest possible Hebrew names for the English name
Beatrice? Also for the name Ruth.
My grandmother was named Beatrice Ruth.
Thank you for your help!

Julie Dalli (JJJD...@aol.com)
Orlando FL
Researching: ORSECK, SCHWARTZ, WEISS, FARKAS, PILAKOVSKY, LEBOFSKY, BREGMAN,
PINE and more...

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CMeys

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>Would someone be able to suggest possible Hebrew names for the English name
>Beatrice? Also for the name Ruth.
>My grandmother was named Beatrice Ruth.

While they really could have been anything (maybe starting with the same
letters maybe not) as there are no actual rules to go by, Ruth is actually a
Hebrew name -- Rus (in ashkenazic pronunciation) or Rut (in sephadic).

Doesn't mean thats the answer though. I know people with the English name Ruth
that are named Rochel (Rachel) in Hebrew as well as the reverse!

Good luck

Cyndee Meystel
Chicago, IL

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EAdler

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Apr 11, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/11/00
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No rules but you could go by the "similar sounds" or "same meaning" :

Beatrice sound like : Batya - daughter of G-d
Beena - wisdom
Bracha - blessing

Beatrice means is "Bringer of Joy":
Reena, Reenat,Gila,Hedva - Joy
Simcha - Joy (a little outdated)
Oshra, Oshrat - Happiness
Avigail - My father's joy
Aliza - Joyess

E Adler


CMeys wrote in message <20000409202443...@nso-da.aol.com>...


>In article <6e.1f4119...@aol.com>, JJJD...@aol.com writes:
>
>>Would someone be able to suggest possible Hebrew names for the English
>>name Beatrice? Also for the name Ruth.
>>My grandmother was named Beatrice Ruth.
>
>While they really could have been anything (maybe starting with the same
>letters maybe not) as there are no actual rules to go by, Ruth is actually
>a Hebrew name -- Rus (in ashkenazic pronunciation) or Rut (in sephadic).
>
>Doesn't mean thats the answer though. I know people with the English name
>Ruth that are named Rochel (Rachel) in Hebrew as well as the reverse!
>
>Good luck
>
>Cyndee Meystel
>Chicago, IL
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MK

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Apr 11, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/11/00
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My mother always believed Bracha and Beatrice to have equivalent meanings,
Beatrice from the Latin and used in America and Bracha on her ketuba.

Min Kataczinsky
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Ukraine); RABINOVITZ (Khodorkov Ukraine); SHEININ (Belarus); SINGER
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EAdler wrote:
>
> No rules but you could go by the "similar sounds" or "same meaning" :
>
> Beatrice sound like : Batya - daughter of G-d
> Beena - wisdom
> Bracha - blessing
>
> Beatrice means is "Bringer of Joy":
> Reena, Reenat,Gila,Hedva - Joy
> Simcha - Joy (a little outdated)
> Oshra, Oshrat - Happiness
> Avigail - My father's joy
> Aliza - Joyess

Robert Israel

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Apr 11, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/11/00
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cm...@aol.com (CMeys) writes:
> >JJJD...@aol.com writes:

> >Would someone be able to suggest possible Hebrew names for the English
> >name Beatrice? Also for the name Ruth.
> >My grandmother was named Beatrice Ruth.
>
> While they really could have been anything (maybe starting with the same
> letters maybe not) as there are no actual rules to go by, Ruth is
> actually a Hebrew name -- Rus (in ashkenazic pronunciation) or Rut (in
> sephadic).

Actually the original Ruth was a Moabite. But it became a Hebrew name.

I would suggest Bracha for Beatrice - close in meaning as well as sound.

Robert Israel
isr...@math.ubc.ca

Arnold Davidson

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Apr 13, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/13/00
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Over and over again, many correspondents have offered information about
name equivalents across languages. It should be obvious to anyone who
atempts even minimal research that Yiddish or Hebrew names have been
converted to any of a number of secular names that may or may not be
related in any way to their Yiddish or Hebrew origins. An attempt to
identify a specific Yiddish or Hebrew origen for a secular name is, at
best, a crapshoot. The only reason for my response to this question is
that my mother took the name of Beatrice. Her original given name was
Blume, which means flower. My mother was highly literate in several
languages and, after her immigration to the US, she took the Hebrew name of
Shoshana, which is a desert flower, sometimes called a desert rose. She
also took the English name of Beatrice, because it had the same beginning
sound as Blume. Her sister Peshe took the name Pauline, her sister Chashe
took the name Harriet, her sister Nechame took the name Naomi, her sister
Yente took the name Jean, and her brother Nachman took the name Norman.

Their Yiddish and their secular names had nothing in common except for the
initial phonetic or its equivalent.

>Subject: Hebrew for Beatrice
>From: JJJD...@aol.com
>Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2000 17:24:55 EDT
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>
>Would someone be able to suggest possible Hebrew names for the English name
>Beatrice? Also for the name Ruth.
>My grandmother was named Beatrice Ruth.

>Thank you for your help!
>
>Julie Dalli (JJJD...@aol.com)
>Orlando FL
>Researching: ORSECK, SCHWARTZ, WEISS, FARKAS, PILAKOVSKY, LEBOFSKY, BREGMAN,
>PINE and more...

Arnold Davidson
Boynton Beach, FL
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IsraelP

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Apr 14, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/14/00
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We have one Beatrice Pikholz who was Rivka. I think the transition
was from Becky which sounded too Jewish to Beatrice which didn't.

(My mother Beatrice is Batia.)

Israel Pickholtz
mailto:zac...@actcom.co.il

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